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Title: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 05:55:27 PM
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Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
By Lee Ferran | ABC News – 22 hrs ago.. .


 Whoever wins the upcoming presidential election, by halfway through the new term the Commander-in-Chief could be wielding a new weapon straight out of science fiction: laser cannons.
 
That's how close the U.S. Navy is to being able to field the first generation of "directed energy" weapons aboard ships, according to Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder, the chief of the Office of Naval Research. Klunder made the claim Monday to WIRED.com's Danger Room, which has been following the development of the futuristic laser arsenal.
 
Earlier this year Klunder's office had said the Navy was four years away from mounting the laser weapons, but he told WIRED Monday that recent tests had been "very successful" and the Navy has figured out physics issues that plagued early concepts.
 
"We're well past physics," he said. "We're just going through the integration efforts… Hopefully that tells you we're well mature, and we're ready to put these on naval ships."
 
The weapons are designed to track and fire on threats to a warship that could include anything from armed drones and small "swarm" boats to incoming missiles and aircraft.
 
In April 2011 the Navy released a video of a test in which its prototype Maritime Laser Demonstrator blasted a hole in the engine of a small boat at sea off the California coast, leaving it dead in the water.
 
A year later, an officer in the Solid-State Laser Technology Maturation (SSL-TM) program said the Navy believed it was " time to move forward with solid-state lasers and shift the focus from limited demonstrations to weapon prototype development and related technology advancement."
 
Solid-state lasers are one of several types of laser-based weapons systems currently under development by the Navy and other military services in conjunction with several major defense contractors. A recent Congressional report on the Navy's laser program noted that such devices could be "ready for installation" in "the next few years," but it criticized the Navy for not yet developing a procurement plan or a roadmap for installing the weapons on specific ships.
 
DOWNLOAD: Navy Shipboard Lasers for Surface, Air and Missile Defense (PDF)
 
The military has spent hundreds of millions on the development of the various systems, but once they're installed, the government predicts that they would be relatively cheap to operate, considering they're not using conventional munitions. The Congressional report estimates that it will cost the Navy the equivalent of less than a dollar per shot to use the laser weapons versus, say, short-range air-defense interceptor missiles that generally cost around $800,000 to $1.4 million each.
http://news.yahoo.com/navys-laser-weapons-just-2-years-away-admiral-173636089--abc-news-topstories.html (http://news.yahoo.com/navys-laser-weapons-just-2-years-away-admiral-173636089--abc-news-topstories.html)

Interesting. 

I don't buy that dollar-a-shot thing for a second; you know a laser that powerful at any range eats enough juice to power a whole town for a while every time it's fired.  I SERIOUSLY doubt a lot of surface ships have reactors up to powering THAT already in place.
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 06:43:29 PM
http://youtu.be/vqLkpcHavZE (http://youtu.be/vqLkpcHavZE)

Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 06:50:09 PM
I love the baseline music playing low in the background.  The whole thing reminds me of the old Venture Industries films they play on The Venture Brothers sometimes.
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 07:04:14 PM
TECHNOLOGY ON THE MARCH!  THE FUTURE IS NOW!

Nothing about the power requirements, though.
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 07:37:24 PM
Yeah, can't find anything.

AFAIK these are all chemical based for power, so essentially the whole boat would become a giant battery. (like the Airborn laser)  How long in between recharges, I don't know. 
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 07:41:35 PM
Much recharge time ( a whole second) is no good on a close-in interdiction weapon.  Betcha we're talking reactor...
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 07:50:18 PM
Maybe it's related, didn't think they had got these down in size yet:

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The military already uses lasers across the spectrum. What make this technology different (and its potential so extraordinary) is its power source.

The military now uses solid-state lasers that use crystals and glass, as well as chemical lasers that use often dangerous liquid materials. The FEL is different. It requires only electrons, which can be created from matter inside the injector with energy that is constantly recycled. In other words, it uses less shipboard power than current weapons systems. “It won’t slow down the ship,” Saulter said.

In addition, according to Navy officials, the FEL laser can perform at different wavelengths, meaning it can operate at lower and more powerful levels so that it can be used for different applications, which other laser technology cannot. It is also not vulnerable to atmospheric conditions, as solid-state lasers are, making them wane in power depending on the weather.

“The fact that you can tune the wavelength, that’s what makes it different. You can optimize the beam for the conditions of the day -- that’s really powerful,” said Adm. Carr. “So in a warfighting sense, the FEL’s ability to do that on a ship makes it much more attractive” than other laser technology.

The scope of the project from start to finish is impressively daunting. It's outfitted with enough piping, conductors, cables and other material to fill a small gymnasium, and they do this all at the lab.

The Navy must not only figure out a way to harness the electron beam into a light ray, but to shrink the accelerator down to size so that it would fit neatly on a Navy destroyer.

But for now, researchers take each milestone as proof they are moving in the right direction. The Navy has asked for $60 million for its directed energy budget for 2012. As for Friday’s 500 kV breakthrough, they say it’s a big one.

“This will shorten the timeline for the Navy to get to the Megawatt” league, Saulter said. Clearly, the day's events were a feather in everyone’s cap.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/02/18/navy-breaks-world-record-futuristic-laser-getting-real/#ixzz2AFBVa8zj (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/02/18/navy-breaks-world-record-futuristic-laser-getting-real/#ixzz2AFBVa8zj)
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
Okay, solid state has been mentioned in one of the things I've seen today, and the frequency tuning makes all the sense in the world for a weapon, especially in atmosphere - you want infrared for more than one reason.
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
 ;woohoo  Yay!  Laser Cruisers!
Title: Re: Navy's Laser Weapons Just 2 Years Away, Admiral Says
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 07:48:25 PM
Not the position some would take.  Might really ruin your day if the US navy don't like you. ;)
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