Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: Earthmichael on September 01, 2012, 04:41:30 PM

Title: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on September 01, 2012, 04:41:30 PM

I would like to start a new 1-vs-1 game with an expert player.  I find that involving more players makes the game exponentially more likely to fail, and greatly decreases the speed of the game, so I only want to start a 1-vs-1 game.

Because I prefer team games, my ideal is a 1-vs-1 game where my opponent and I each control 2 (or 3 factions).   To speed things up, all of my opponent’s factions go first, in whatever order my opponent chooses, and then my factions go next. This way, there is only one exchange of turns at the end of the complete team turn of each player. So we can have a 2-3 faction vs. 2-3 faction game, with only a single exchange of emails per turn.

I will play ladder or non-ladder, as my opponent prefers.  If we play ladder, I would like to play on a balanced map, like the balanced VETS map.  Otherwise, we can play on an unbalanced map.

I am looking for a fairly committed opponent that can typically play 1-2 turns per day.  Of course, occasional gaps for travel, vacation, etc. can be expected, but hopefully not more than once a month.

If you are interested in starting a 1-vs-1 game with me, please post or PM me.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 10, 2012, 09:35:10 PM

Is no one is interested in a 1-vs-1 game?   It has been 40 days, and no responses.  :(

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 12, 2012, 07:24:37 PM

I'll be happy to play with you, and I can motly (but not allways) one turn per day, probably not two.
Also Im a lousy player and I won only to PBEMs all my life (not that we finished many...) so if you are looking for an expert that's not me.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 12, 2012, 07:26:55 PM

And we could make it ladder

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 16, 2012, 04:24:14 AM

t_ras, I am happy to play with you.  If you want a ladder game, I would prefer a balanced map.  Otherwise, we can use whatever map you like. 

I tend to like games where we are each playing two factions.  That gives a few more options to each of us.  So my favorite game is a balanced map with each of us taking two factions.  But I am willing to play other scenarios.

If we are not playing ladder, I am willing to give you a handicap to make the game more interesting, say you get an extra 100 EC for each faction at the start.

Let me know what kind of game you would find interesting.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 16, 2012, 07:47:46 AM

We'll play ladder.
Ill would like to try Hive+Uni (hoping this convination will give me a wide range of possibilities).

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 16, 2012, 07:50:09 AM

vet's map?

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 16, 2012, 08:05:32 AM

Any balance map is OK.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 16, 2012, 02:00:35 PM

OK, Ladder Game on balanced map with 2 factions each.

The modified Vet's map is the only 4 player balanced map I know, so that will be fine.

I will go with Free Drones + CyCon.

t_ras, your two factions can go first; decide what order you want.

I would like CyCon to go third, and Free Drones last.

t_ras, you can also choose whether you want to start in the North or South side of the map.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 16, 2012, 02:02:42 PM

Quote from: Earthmichael on October 16, 2012, 02:00:35 PM

I would like CyCon to go third, and Free Drones last.

you mean the thrid and the seventh slot in the turn order?

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 16, 2012, 02:20:02 PM

I don't know the map, so I don't really mind the starting possitions.
I would have Uni go firts and then Hive.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 16, 2012, 02:42:35 PM

Quote from: sisko on October 16, 2012, 02:02:42 PM

Quote from: Earthmichael on October 16, 2012, 02:00:35 PM

I would like CyCon to go third, and Free Drones last.

you mean the thrid and the seventh slot in the turn order?

Since it is only a 4 faction game (no AI players), then the turn order is Uni, Hive, Cycon, Drones.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 16, 2012, 02:49:36 PM

i know that, but there's also the issue of the available techs at the start of the game which is related to the position of the factions in the 7 slots available.
see last challenge for reference:

Quote from: sisko on March 02, 2012, 11:11:37 PM

ok. i finally have something for you.
i had to rebuild the scenario as the excel tool i have has failed me. now i hope everything will be as you wish on the starting tech options.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 17, 2012, 04:25:16 AM

sisko,  I sent you a PM to get more information on what starting techs are available for what slots, or if there is some tool to figure it out.

Also, each of our pairs of factions should be permanently pacted at the beginning of the game.  Or at least know each other's comm frequencies.  But not the comm frequencies of the opponents.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 17, 2012, 04:36:44 AM

t_ras,

To get the game off to a faster start, I suggest that each faction start with:

2-4 colony pods
4-8 scouts
1-2 terraformers
[You can pick from within those ranges whatever you think is best.  This can shave 20-30 turns off the start of the game]

Just post whatever starting units you would prefer.  Thanks!

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 17, 2012, 06:41:04 AM

Quote from: t_ras on October 16, 2012, 02:20:02 PM

I don't know the map, so I don't really mind the starting possitions.

the map is here: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=24 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=24)

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 17, 2012, 08:34:32 AM

2-4-2 I think

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 18, 2012, 04:22:40 AM

OK, 2 Colony pods, 4 scouts, and 2 terraformers is fine with me.

Decide if you want north or south.  If you don't care, I would prefer North, not because it is any better, but because I am more used to be North.

As for my setup, I want Cycon to start on the East side, and Drones to start on the west side, regardless of whether I am north or south.

So, pick North or South, and whether you want Hive on east or west, and that should be all that is left to be able to start!

Good luck!

- Earthmichael

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 18, 2012, 06:00:00 AM

I dont care about placement

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 18, 2012, 09:45:33 PM

i'm too tired to start working on this one right now. it will have to wait another day. in the mean time you should visit this thread: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2423 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2423)

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 19, 2012, 04:31:44 AM

Sisko, I really appreciate you setting up the game and being the Moderator!  You really keep this game alive!

No rush about the setup.  Take some time to relax.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 24, 2012, 11:17:18 PM

Sisko, if you are able, I would love to get this game kicked off.  Thanks!

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 27, 2012, 09:05:59 PM

game launched here: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2495 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2495)

good luck to both of you!

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on October 27, 2012, 10:24:17 PM

Thanks for setting this up, Sisko!

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 30, 2012, 06:22:20 PM

I still think this game should have been called Earth To t_ras...

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on October 31, 2012, 05:37:51 AM

 :P

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: sisko on October 31, 2012, 10:37:56 AM

Quote from: Earthmichael on October 17, 2012, 04:25:16 AM

sisko,  I sent you a PM to get more information on what starting techs are available for what slots, or if there is some tool to figure it out.

we have such a tool (see attachment), but we saw it failing to predict correctly at least once so, it is not reliable. :(

unfortunately, the turn order is imprinted in the scenario save at the very beginning and the only way to change it is to build another scenario. starting again from scratch because the tool has failed to predict the exact beeline is an option i'm willing to take only for important games (challenges).

also, going beyond this particular game, accommodating every player's wishes becomes more and more difficult starting from the 3 player with every player you add to the game so, because you have less and less slots to juggle with.

the way i see it, and to help a bit the CMN in his work, if a player has one (or more) preferred faction(s), and remembers exactly in which slots he gets a 'clean beeline' to whatever tech suits better his playing style, then he can express his preference for a specific slot in the turn order and the CMN will see if can adapt the turn order to meet the player's request.
There are some constraints, though:
- in SMAX it is far more important to set the turn order according to the time zones of the players so this should be the CMN's first priority;
- in SMAC we have a default turn order which can't be change unless you mess with the text files. also, the players will have to live with scrambled faction colors in such a game.

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: Earthmichael on November 08, 2012, 12:47:05 AM

Is anyone else interested in a game of this sort with me?

Title: Re: New 1-vs-1 Game Request
Post by: t_ras on November 08, 2012, 04:10:44 AM

Try with Kyrov