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Title: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 27, 2018, 07:20:31 PM
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.120.083401

I'd guess ideas for popular/mainstream science articles come from, in descending order:
 1.) People in the business reading articles on other venues
  2.) Researchers and/or related organizations send out a press release
   3.) Somebody actually reads professional journals

Options 1 & 2 are obviously lower-difficulty settings, most especially according to how much the scientific field coincides with the science writer's education/training/expertise - of course.  Lori, I'd say the challenge for you is to work at terseness and accessibility without sacrificing accuracy - or to put it more bluntly, your science writing tends to rigor to the point of being dry.  All the jokes and conversational English and pop culture references the traffic will bear.  -But do spare us the Tattoine references every time an exoplanet is discovered in a binary system; everybody does that, and it was old/tired/lame/stupid the second time.

I reckon places that hire science writers like credentials in particular fields, but that should descend wildly in importance as you go from a specialty shop like Space.com to a wide/no-focus venues like Newsweek - so it would be good as a training exercise to have a go at things like archaeology and whatever way outside your wheelhouse.

-Interesting note; wire service science articles are invariably dry as dust, lacking in fine or even moderate detail, but very, very concise.  Live Science and Space.com vary as to length and "pop-ness", almost always pretty solid and rarely leaving you thinking crucial detail was left out, but are prone to embarrassingly moronic headlines (editors write those).  Places like Business Insider and Newsweek are actually similar in style, with more sober headlines.

You know, you're not going to want to shoot to please Uno, exactly, on the aerospace stuff, but me.  In general, though, the crowd here is probably aiming a little high.  There's an optimal balance to be found, where babytalk science is only gonna get you gigs with children's educational venues -not to be ruled out, if you turn out to be able to explain science to kids- and strict rigor, which is unlikely to get you any gigs...

Have a go, somewhat more often than you actually feel like doing.  I certainly don't expect you to take a tilt at everything, at least initially, certainly not in under 24 hours - though both would be good practice for pro work.  I apologize in advance for variably being in the mood to provide good feedback, and for probably ripping good/hard work to shreds in the interest of making it mainstream and accessible.


I strongly urge everyone to chip in with questions and suggestions and whatever when Lori submits something - it's all about writing for an audience, and constructive criticism lets a young man know his friends give a darn, too.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 27, 2018, 07:50:10 PM
https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.01120
Is it cheating if I read the SciTech Daily article first?
Only if you still write it up.

Honest.

(We've both let this slide lately [I wasn't entirely kidding about a short Horkheimer version], and really ought to dedicate a thread, since you need to write up science outside your expertise if that's a thing you fancy trying to make money at...  You're quite smart, even by the standards of this community, and clearly well-read; I think you could swing the archaeology papers, notwithstanding the difference in jargon and rigor.)
I've changed my mind.  It's nothing but clear that pro science writers read each other's stuff all the time.  Have a look at that SciTech Daily article and party on with your own bad self.
So I didn't read that article specifically, but I have been following this story. Nevertheless, here's my take:

In the 1920s, Hubble famously discovered the expansion of the universe by looking at Cepheid variables in other galaxies. Cepheid variables are standard candles, which is what astronomers use to measure cosmic distances. Because a star that looks bright might be a close, dim star or a distant, luminous star, we need a way to independently determine how bright a star should be in order to figure out how far away it is. Cepheid variables serve as a standard candle because their brightness periodically pulsates and there is a correlation between the pulsation period and its average peak brightness. So the longer the period, the brighter a Cepheid should be, which means that if you find a dim, long period Cepheid, you know it must be very far away.

The tricky part is that in order to calibrate "very far away," you have to know the actual distances to some nearby Cepheids by some other method. This is the cosmic distance ladder, by which we climb one distance-measuring rung to reach the next. For the closest interstellar objects, we measure distance by "parallax," which in practice is a kind of vague term that corresponds to any method that uses a combination of time and geometry. The distances to the Cepheids Hubble used were actually determined via "statistical parallax," which is a little complicated and not central to this story. (See this (http://anomalous-readings.blogspot.com/2017/05/rungs-all-way-down.html) post if you want to get a better idea. Although I'm not super happy about how that one turned out.)

When you hear the term parallax, what probably springs to mind is what astronomers refer to as "stellar parallax," which is observing the apparent shift of a foreground star against background stars as the Earth moves around its orbit. Measure the position of a star. Wait half a year. Measure again. The greater the difference between the star's two apparent positions, the closer it is. This paper details a very precise set of stellar parallax observations made using the Hubble telescope. I'll talk about why these measurements are so good in a bit, but we're not quite done with Hubble the dude.

Hubble's discovery required accurate distance measurements and accurate spectroscopy. The faster a star is receding from you, the redder its spectrum will be due to the Doppler shift (redshift for astronomy). What Hubble found was a roughly linear relationship between distance and recession speed. A galaxy twice as far away as another will be receding at twice the speed. Combine this with some fancy math from general relativity and you can conclude that the universe is expanding and must have been smaller in the past. The expansion rate is now referred to as Hubble's constant. However, due to some systematic errors present at the time (for example, there were Cepheids that behaved differently from the rest, but no one knew it then), Hubble's estimate was an order of magnitude too high.

In the decades that followed, astronomers were able to get a much more accurate value for Hubble's constant and were also able to extend it out across the entire cosmos. They achieved this by finding more standard candles, the most important of which is type 1a supernovae. These work as standard candles out to much greater distances than Cepheids because they are extremely luminous and they have a fairly well understood peak luminosity based on underlying physics. Using these supernovae, astronomers were able to show that Hubble's constant is in fact pretty constant over long stretches of time and space. Cool.

So there are two reasons why the most recent Hubble observations are able to pin down a value for Hubble's constant with even less uncertainty. The first has to do with consistency. They measured the parallax of Milky Way Cepheid variables using the same Hubble camera that's been used to measure the brightness of extragalactic Cepheids. This means they can be very confident that discrepancies aren't just due to using different instruments.

Second, they're also using a relatively new technique for taking pictures with Hubble called spatial scanning photometry. Rather than just staring at a star and collecting its light over a period of time, they get Hubble to scan diagonally over it, leaving a star trail on the CCD and then adding up all the light from the trail. The advantage of this method is that you can collect a lot of light from a single source without saturating your pixels and you're not relying on one group of pixels to calculate the brightness of the star. You can average out the brightness across this diagonal pixel slash in a way that reduces the chance for error due to (essentially) imperfect calibration.

So the team got very precise measurements of the brightness and parallax of Milky Way Cepheid variables, which let them recalibrate the cosmic distance ladder all the way out to type 1a supernovae and come up with an even better measurement of Hubble's constant. Great. The reason this story is making headlines, however, is that it widens and solidifies the gap growing between this method of determining Hubble's constant and another method.

Let's flash back to Hubble the dude for a moment. He discovers the expansion of the universe, and theorists run with this idea and postulate a big bang. A big bang should leave behind observational evidence in the form of the cosmic microwave background, which formed when the universe cooled down enough so that electrons could calmly orbit protons and photons could stream outward without fear of hitting those electrons. Some of the static on your TV that nobody sees anymore because we've all gone digital is a result of CMB photons reuniting with matter for the first time in like 13.7 billion years, having cooled down to 2.7 kelvins.

But with very good satellites and other radio/microwave telescopes, we can detect much more than static in the CMB. There are tiny temperature fluctuations, some of them on large scales, others on small scales. You can plot all these variations as a power spectrum, which measures how strong your fluctuations are at particular sizes. The exact shape of this spectrum depends on a variety of factors, but cosmologists can model what it should look like using relatively simple physics.

One of the primary parameters influencing the CMB power spectrum is the ratio of matter and energy when the CMB formed. Before the CMB, matter and photons bounced around in a big sloshy mix that caused reverberations throughout the cosmos. Once the CMB formed, they separated and stopped influencing each other. The result is that the CMB power spectrum encodes the matter and energy waves that were most prominent at that last moment of scattering, so the ratio of matter to energy tells you what kind of waves you should get.

The big bang says the universe started out with more energy (from photons and neutrinos) than regular matter. However, as the universe expands, energy dilutes more quickly than matter (due to redshift), which means that at some point, matter becomes more dominant than energy. The ratio of matter to energy that you get from the CMB tells you when this happens, which tells you how quickly the universe is expanding, which gets you another estimate of Hubble's constant. (The difficult part is that many factors go into the CMB power spectrum, so this really gives you a range of acceptable values for the Hubble constant as those other parameters slide around.)

And the problem is that as more accurate maps of the CMB have been drawn (from WMAP and Planck), the value of Hubble's constant they're getting and the value coming from type 1a supernovae have stopped overlapping. The CMB gets you 67 km/s/Mpc, and this new paper's recalibration of Cepheid variables gets you 73 km/s/Mpc, and the uncertainties have shrunk enough that you can't just hope they're really the same value. So there's something important that cosmologists are missing. Thanks to efforts like this most recent paper, measurement error is probably not the answer. Maybe new physics? Maybe assumptions underlying one or both methods are wrong? No one is really sure yet. It's a pickle.

Wow that was way too long. I'll see if I can put together a shorter version later.
Your language is good, but I'm going to need to teach you some news/journalism style.  You want to begin with a "lede", which is one sentence, concise as humanly possible without being misleadingly simple, with a summary of, and/or hook for, the article's idea(s).

Skimming the beginning, you need to say "astronomer Edwin Hubble" to avoid confusion with his eponymous space telescope.  At the mention of six months later for parallax. you probably ought to work in as briefly as possible that it's opposite side of orbit = greatest distance baseline.

I mean, in general, you want to cut where feasible, simplifying, but also idiot-proofing.

I'll try hard to give you an in-depth reading and a lot more feedback later today when I'm caught up on my daily routine.

Protip:  Always come up with a headline or two - not just for presentation here, but because even good editors sometimes come up with a head that misses the point and/or is a lame joke and/or chaps your butt some other way; it is standard practice to end you copy with some suggested headlines, which they may actually use instead of inventing something embarrassing.  Here, you'll want to bold your favorite at the top - but just as well get in the habit of putting any other head ideas at the bottom.

I should quote the journal link and these two posts to the dedicated thread, so we can go on from there there, shouldn't I?
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on February 27, 2018, 08:48:23 PM
Yeah, I don't bury the lede so much as dismember it and scatter the parts. In my academic writing, I eventually got trained to produce reasonable thesis sentences and introductory paragraphs, but it took awhile. When I'm writing more conversationally, I tend toward a storytelling style where I kind of eventually wend my way to a point. I know that's something I need to work on.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 27, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
...It strikes me that at some early point, if we can get in relatively energetic/productive moods at the same time -I know, but it's possible- it would be the thing to do to have you write up something many times over in different format/styles according to venue/intended audience.  -Writing for your blog in different than for any journalistic outlet, UPI wants something different than Newsweek wants something different than ABC wants something different than Nickelodeon.  Geo can point out the constellations by name with infectious enthusiasm and I know the Big Dipper and the Pleiades and that's about it, and while you'd write about the same for him and me outside skywatching/constellation stuff, you'd write -or really should- differently for 10 year-olds, and similarly but not the same for my very bright Aunt in her 80s who got her GED in her 70s and has no interest in astronomy to my knowledge, but might enjoy a nice brief piece about Jupiter's Red Spot written in plain English (and would probably surprise you with how much she knows about bible-related archeology).

For that matter, a literal Horkheimer version would be wildly different than what I really meant to ask for, broadcast style being all about simplicity and inflexible exact length and always a lot more obsessed with entertainment value, and not needing, for example, the rigid rules for quote formatting.  I think we ought to concentrate on print style -I assume you have some notion of working at home via email w/o direct human contact- at least for now, though my degree is actually in broadcasting, so if you wanted to keep open the possibility of doing something for local radio stations or something --- this is a much more awkward format for that than print, but we can take a run at it later if you want.

The point being, the more versatility you learn, the better chance of a lucrative hermit gig.

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[ninja'd]  I'd already been thinking I needed to talk about journalistic Descending Pyramid style.  You can't do a UPI wire story at all without it, but don't need it at all for a long piece for National Geographic - between those, it varies, but you must be able to write somewhat that way for most print/web venues with any roots at all in actual journalism.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2018, 12:54:05 AM
Lessee; just thinking about areas where other members might should especially be useful chipping in... Rusty is a widely-read history enthusiast w/o any particular training, and GodKing/Spacy is an engineer -I don't recall of what- by education and long professional experience who now teaches (high school?) science and is know to me to be a facile communicator of science...

-I'm running incredibly later than usual on my routine this evening, and might not get to your feedback -at least not everything to my satisfaction- tonight.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on February 28, 2018, 02:07:21 AM
No problem. At this point I'm probably just going to read and go to sleep, as I'm pretty tired.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2018, 02:35:13 AM
Okydoke; I still haven't wrapped up daily stuff, and nit-picking and suggestions ought to eat up a lot more than an hour.


A thing to be thinking, meanwhile, is about how you approach a science write-up thematically for a broad audience.  You need to figure out going in what the 'hook' is; what about it is of interest to the great unwashed, both the general public and especially them of us as has no particular science education but read science articles anyway.  What's weird, wild, and/or 'sexy' about it?  Is it the cause of anything laymen know about IRL?  Does it make anything light up or help explain life the universe and everything?  Are there any technology implications/possible advances in anything people have or encounter IRL? 

-Also, get in the habit of keeping an eye peeled for quotes in journal articles in clear English you can use.  (I've tended to ignore links to press releases, but I'll start snagging those when I see them, for at least a source of quotes in English...)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on February 28, 2018, 11:22:48 AM
Good stuff to think about, yeah. I really appreciate the journalism workshop. ;b;
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Unorthodox on February 28, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
Whats the end goal here? 

I've read to hit the widest audience you need to write to a 5th grade level.  Or are we trying for a little more than that?
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on February 28, 2018, 01:52:53 PM
I want to get paid to write about science. At least in the short to medium term, I'm not picky about how that happens. I can write for newspapers/magazines by pitching, I can write press releases for universities, I can do outreach for scientific organizations and agencies, etc. But as BU pointed out, those all require different audiences.

Personally, there are two-ish ways I'd like to write about science: (1) provide slightly meatier explanations for people who get fed up with bad/lazy science articles but don't want to wade into journal papers (basically me before I went back to school), (2) tell stories about how science gets done, focusing on the process and pitfalls more than on big, flashy, speculative results.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2018, 07:12:54 PM
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017JE005333/abstract (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017JE005333/abstract)
https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/how-moon-formed-inside-vaporized-earth-synestia (https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/how-moon-formed-inside-vaporized-earth-synestia)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2018, 08:23:47 PM
https://news.osu.edu/news/2018/02/27/research-magic-mushrooms/ (https://news.osu.edu/news/2018/02/27/research-magic-mushrooms/)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/evl3.42 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/evl3.42)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2018, 02:42:22 AM
I've tutored writing informally, and never taught journalism at all - and those classes are 31-29 years behind me, my brief professional experience almost as far back.  -So I'm sure you'll forgive me while I'm wringing my memory for details and haphazardly working out a course as I go.  I'm having trouble getting motived to do the work, too, which I volunteer not to fish for gratitude, but just why I'm doing a heckuvalot slower turnaround than I would in a high-energy mood phase.  (Actually, this could help me phase into that that if I can discipline myself and feel like I'm doing a pal some good.)

I want to get paid to write about science. At least in the short to medium term, I'm not picky about how that happens. I can write for newspapers/magazines by pitching, I can write press releases for universities, I can do outreach for scientific organizations and agencies, etc. But as BU pointed out, those all require different audiences.

Personally, there are two-ish ways I'd like to write about science: (1) provide slightly meatier explanations for people who get fed up with bad/lazy science articles but don't want to wade into journal papers (basically me before I went back to school), (2) tell stories about how science gets done, focusing on the process and pitfalls more than on big, flashy, speculative results.
The more I know about your goals and general druthers, the better I can be of help, so this is great.

Some observations:  Pitching articles freelance --- it's job-hunting everyday.  It's like working up the courage to chase women.  You're actually better at that than me, 'cause I can't take the failure/rejection and don't do any of those things at all for a couple decades straight, now.  If you've any notion of making a living as a science writer --- it might be more feasible to sacrifice a lot of freedom on those two-ish ways to write science and get a staff job somewhere and put up with getting assignments like 'roughly 1,500 words on how Kylo Ren's lightsaber might work with real science' or 'funny two pages about the rings around Uranus w/o making the obvious jokes' or, possibly better, 'write up this press release'  -but it might be from someone working for Reynolds Tobacco.

Alternately, step your game way up and blog one or two or three tight pieces a week without fail -copywrite notice on everything- with ads - I could help you a lot with SEO and how to promote online, but at best, it would take years to build up to traffic/money worth mentioning without some awesome luck.  -In concord with that, you could set yourself up as a sort self-syndicated newspaper columnist.  I'm dimly aware that some people try to make a go of that kind of thing, but haven't the foggiest how it works, what hellish amount of hustle is required, or if anyone much ever made a living at it for long.  In the same line, compromise and pitch it to an actual syndicate.  I don't know much about that, either, but if you demonstrated you could put together a regular thing the they could sell to papers, you might have as much freedom as the market would bear.

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write press releases for universities, I can do outreach for scientific organizations and agencies, etc
When I was a junior reporter, I'd occasionally get handed press releases to rewrite into articles.  I was appalled by how few PR flacks in town knew the basic AP stylebook stuff.  About a decade and half later, I was secretary of the chess club in the same small city/big town -pop. aprox. 30,000- and taking initiative to be the one promoting the club, when we put on a simul, or tournament, or whatever mildly newsworthy/promotable event, I DID know the basic newswriting format, and was pleasantly surprised to find a lot of my emailed press releases run verbatim in papers in town -and somewhat around the region- when they got any traction at all.  I do not know, but imagine that that's a lot less likely along the highly-urbanized mid-Atlantic coast area well south of New York - but I also imagine the standards for professional press-release writing PR flacks are a lot higher, and releases without proper news format get treated with a lot less respect at the news venue end.  I know I didn't respect what I was re-writing where I was.

The good news about that is that the basics are just a few pages worth of info that you can learn fairly easily, being able to write and having a good trained grasp of hard science.


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I'm sure it would be welcome if others tossed in suggestions about getting or creating paying work along the lines Lori mentioned...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2018, 03:25:29 AM
So, the descending pyramid newswriting style rule is this lingering anachronism from Victorian times -wire service agencies like Associated Press having roots back that far, and the AP stylebook being the gold standard of newswriting style, (how that actually came about, I never knew)- you begin your story with the very most important fact, then second-most and so on, with no regard whatsoever for good fiction/storytelling/entertainment style of building suspense to a climax and all that Aristotelian stuff.

It's that way because -dig this- a correspondent sending a story long-distance by telegraph needs to get the most important info across first in case Indians cut the line or something, and the paper back home only got the beginning of it...

I kid you not.

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Like most of the AP Stylebook stuff, how important adherence to the style is depends on the news venue.  Similar to what I said yesterday, the wire services -I'm aware of AP, UPI and AFP being around these days and covering science stories- of course are going to want that to varying degrees of rigidity according to the editor and I don't know what-all, but pretty much that, and National Geographic not at all; they want well-written true story-stories.  Most fall in between, again as I said before, depending on how deep the organizational style roots are in straight traditional journalism - and also what medium.  Naturally, you want to actually have at least a skim of SciWebsiteX before you cold-email with a pitch, especially if article's already written.

...However, it's pretty obvious that a venue that likes entertaining, bouncy writing and don't give a flyin' 'bout the stylebook is a lot more likely to take a sober journalism piece than the other way around, so you DO want to master this stuff even if you end up at Cracked.com...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2018, 03:39:25 AM
Cracked.com is something to really consider, BTW.  If you think you could do science in a ripped-off-from-Letterman-like-everyone-else list format with either a million pop-culture references and HIlarious jokes worked in -or else otherwise just made fascinating to read- they are like, totally set up to train amateur netheads up to their standards, at which point they do pay.  (That site does have a way of eating your whole day as a reader -and crashing your browser because you opened two many tabs- and Mylochka says it really is crack, which I can't deny.)  You wouldn't actually need to know anything about journalism, writing there, though I would hope it helps if a list is true.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2018, 04:13:08 AM
So I feel like I've posted some worthwhile stuff, but I've neglected to get to that nit-picking/editor pass on the story again. Sorry.

Y'know, I could do you a re-write in news style for you to compare; does that sound worthwhile?  Another possibility would be -I saw 5-10 different articles about the ISS 'nauts landing this morning, and only posted the first one I came across from a venue I deemed solid- it happens with some new exoplanets, the latest fusion research making a publicity push, physics and/or astronomy stuff a lot of editors happened to deem sexy the same day, things like that Macedonian tomb last year, and sometimes ape science, because we all love moneys somehow.   So, the next time I see something astronomical getting heavy coverage and the one I pick has a journal link, how about I post everything I find here for style comparison, and if you're willing, you write it up, too.

-We can also girldog about the bad write-ups for both education and fun, which should rope in Uno and Geo for sure.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 01, 2018, 02:52:32 PM
It's that way because -dig this- a correspondent sending a story long-distance by telegraph needs to get the most important info across first in case Indians cut the line or something, and the paper back home only got the beginning of it...

I kid you not.

That's fantastic. ;lol

Y'know, I could do you a re-write in news style for you to compare; does that sound worthwhile?

That sounds like a lot of work for you, but probably useful if you're willing.

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So, the next time I see something astronomical getting heavy coverage and the one I pick has a journal link, how about I post everything I find here for style comparison, and if you're willing, you write it up, too.

Yeah, that would be a useful exercise. One of the reasons my pieces tend to lack a lede and be kind of meandering and also not in reaction to breaking news is that I don't want to tell the same story a half dozen other outlets are telling. But you're absolutely right that if I want to get into the business, I need to learn the basics of telling that story everyone else is telling.

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We can also girldog about the bad write-ups for both education and fun, which should rope in Uno and Geo for sure.

Well of course.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/02/20/1714341115 (http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/02/20/1714341115)
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-018-02876-y (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-018-02876-y)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2018, 03:28:52 AM
A Vox article about a food scientist, but quite relevant to your interests. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/28/17061828/joy-of-cooking-brian-wansink-cornell-p-hacking (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/28/17061828/joy-of-cooking-brian-wansink-cornell-p-hacking)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2018, 02:36:58 PM
This and the next two posts re: Neanderthals highly relevant to the purpose of this thread:  https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/more-evidence-published-that-neanderthals-were-little-different-from-modern-humans.629155/#post-15057693
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
Meet the largest science project in US government history—the James Webb Telescope (https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/meet-the-largest-science-project-in-us-government-history-the-james-webb-telescope/)

No particular need to click and read -I haven't- posted because, on the face of it, the headline is not just misleading, but just plain wrong.  The National Aeronautics and Space Administration -of which the JWT project is a tiny, tiny, portion- is, in fact, "the largest science project in US government history".  I strongly assume one could parse it much, much finer than just NASA and still bump JWT way down the list.  One suspects the Manhattan Project, for an easy/obvious example, had more people working, and perhaps more adjusted-for-inflation dollars.  The Mercury program surely comes out ahead.  The Gemini program surely comes out ahead.  The Apollo program surely comes out ahead.  The Shuttle program surely ate all the money in the world for two and a half decades straight and employed thousands year after year.

It's just plain a silly factual assertion to make, and I say that without bothering to actually research the issue, but with very firm confidence...

Headlines have to physically fit in a RL print context, and work better in any format when they're short/catchy/pithy.  -Just plain Bad Editing comes into it, too, not least in science news, where the editor may not have understood a word of it.  And that's why you suggest headlines, to save the editor that much time/trouble if you luck out and get something used, and at least point them in the right direction otherwise, and --- it's REALLY irritating when they blow it, which is frequent, and most people assume w/o reflection that the person bylined is to blame...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030544031830030X (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030544031830030X)

Yo, I like history and archaeology, and go out of my way to pick those stories to post -you can tell a lot about what sciences tend to curl my toes by what sort of thing I pick to post- also because this one has a picture of a mummy that Uno will dig.

-Which brings up the Gatekeeper Function of mass media, and especially news - which is a huge complex subject and quite relevant to your goal of covering the science mainstream venues don't.  More later.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 03, 2018, 03:43:49 AM
Something kicked in about two hours ago to make me really sleepy after a late supper.  Perhaps this will help me keep comments on a topic that begs for digression all over creation, the Gatekeeper function and the enormous power information services can hold, brief.

So for instance, consider that the science forums here make AC2 an aggregator science news venue of sorts -my journalism background definitely informs the decisions I make as I format a post to our house header/credit format and religiously avoid correcting obvious mistakes as I'm often tempted to- and that if you imagine we were actually universally-read/important, the fact that I keep going when I see a headline about evidence in favor of dark matter -not when it mentions evidence against- would really matter.  Hey, if I was the Walter-Cronkite-circa-1980 of science news, the fact that Uno likes pictures of mummies and human bones, and anything the Maya and Aztecs ever did, suddenly makes certain branches of archaeology a lot more popular, probably WAY easier to get funded, 'cause some clod congressman has heard of it.  Likewise, Rusty and sunken sailing ships.  Jack Horkheimer is suddenly back polluting PBS, 'cause Geo likes to go in the backyard at night and look up and I copy/paste more of those stories than I would otherwise.

You know, it came out last week that Boko Haram has thrown another big rape party - I daresay I can guess why that's not a big story, and I agree with you in finding that deplorable.  -But, I dunno, you talk all the time about crap, it puts notions in evil heads; does anyone seriously believe that any of the astonishing number of school shootings that have gone down since the new year would have absent the mass media group mind going into a massive, overwhelming feeding frenzy in the early 90s the second time a disgruntled mailman shot up work?

Gatekeeping function.  Simply choosing which events to focus your finite time and column inches on determines what's in the public eye and, QED, what's important.  Nobody in tha' bidness makes a lot of money without being Carl Bernstein or being on TV, but man, buncha d00dz w/ neckties at half-mast gots the power.

No really; this topic wanted a bunch of examples from politics brought up, and to be only 10 times as long if I avoided that pushing into the "liberal" news media smear and how they shafted Bernie -and I wonder how much of that was on purpose/conscious- and bunches of stuff.

I suppose I eventually should talk about the intersection of lazy reporting, slanting the news on purpose -and how, so you'll know what to avoid doing if you're not a dirtbag- my high school principal and how they got it so, SO wrong, and how I subtly retaliated against a politician I interviewed who mildly offended me (somewhat dirtbag moment - that casts light on coverage of the Pig).  Holy crap!  I forgot to talk about the Pig, putting his name in the swear filter here, and how the mass media group mind screwed up and appointed him president via hating too hard.  -Also, my mom feeding the chickens as a little girl actually being relevant to all this.  Tomorrow, maybe.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 03, 2018, 11:03:07 PM
Well, one succinct way of putting it is to say that the media properly exercises its gatekeeping function when they ignore Lyndon LaRoche and David Duke running for president to death.

Either could very conceivably demagogue his way into the white house, given enough free publicity - the mass media group mind just tripped up and forgot that -save Huffpo, briefly, of all places- when confronted with a dirtbag fame-hungry celebrity whose look-at-me novelty campaign inexplicably found a lot of primary voters willing to play with their own poop.  He engaged in a time-dishonored proven dirtbag tactic of his -picking fights with other celebrities via dirtbag insults, and good God; mobs are always stupid, the mass media is collectively no better, and they fell for it like all the suckers in the world.  Bad-mouthing -which they did beyond the bounds of ethical journalism and still do- didn't work when they spelled his name right, 'cause he could never have been more open about his own dirtbagedness than he long has been, so exposing him as a rude, crude, horrid person was futile, and still free publicity.

WELL -and as I was saying at the time, even if you agreed with all his loathsome/stupid policy pronouncements, He. Was. The. Wrong. Guy for the job- this forum is a public place, anything you post could be googled, and nobody's using MY house to contribute to the problem.  His last name became smilie code until he was sworn in.  Not a single soul who said anything about it was in favor, and that's tough.  If he runs for reelection, you're going somewhere else to do it if you're determined to type his name and give him free publicity.  Bad-mouthing him as the dirtbag scum he is has been abundantly proven not to work, because we are a nation of idiots, a nation that went borderline fascist 16 years ago, made up of mostly idiots.

Yo, the gatekeeping function is important is all; you can't cover everything, so just as well keep in mind what getting the light shined on it will do some good for the world.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Geo on March 03, 2018, 11:14:45 PM
..., 'cause Geo likes to go in the backyard at night and look up and I copy/paste more of those stories than I would otherwise.

What else can I do on those rare clear nights walking between the garage and the house entrance coming home after work at night? :P
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 03, 2018, 11:16:58 PM
Beats me; you swear the seeing is better where I am, which seems pretty sad.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Geo on March 03, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
Simply a matter of light pollution.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 03, 2018, 11:26:41 PM
I royally resent that amount we get HERE, you poor city boy.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2018, 12:16:18 AM
Yo, the gatekeeping function is important is all; you can't cover everything, so just as well keep in mind what getting the light shined on it will do some good for the world.
And on a libertarian sort of note, you're a man, not a lemming; to the extent you have any freedom in a science writer gig, even when you know pointing the light where you're choosing won't do any good, you should AT LEAST choose to not be part of the problem when the lemmings are shining it where it's doing harm.

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"Covering the science nobody else is" could have some hiring pitch appeal, besides.  New Scientist isn't exactly making itself competitive when they cover stories that Newsweek, AP, UPI, AFP, Business Insider, International Business Times, Bloomberg, all the broadcast TV networks, The Atlantic, Vox, Wired, Popular Mechanics, Live Science and what-have-you already have...  A venue could conceivably make major hay out of having a young man reading/writing up professional journals; finding your own stuff to cover is a big trick to scooping the competition, being as you're habitually breaking stories...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
I have a thing in progress that's distracting me and has burned hours already today, and I'm hopelessly behind on my routine - and not in a great mood over it, either.  Sorry.

You're going to say it's okay, but it's not; my inner child doesn't want to do work I promised to, and it's already been long enough to risk a procrastination cycle I can't overcome.  My inner child don't mind much talking about the philosophy behind stuff, and that's definitely useful, but I GOTS to get that in-depth reading done and reacted to, and I don't see any chance of that for about 24 hours and I AM sorry.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 03:02:06 AM
Whoa; it's my pill-time, and I'm not even going to finish my daily browsing in the next hour.  -On the plus side, I may have turned the corner on a problem that might turn it into a big asset instead, developments depending; so, yay me. ;king
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 05, 2018, 04:46:16 AM
Sorry for checking out for a couple days. I am reading and absorbing what you're saying but don't have anything intelligent to say about it yet. I haven't thought about it in terms of being a gatekeeper, but I guess that really is in line with my thinking. You talk about media feeding particular narratives (mass shooters, outrageous politicians, etc.), which leads to people thinking that's all there is to a particular subject. Like, mass shootings suck, but the plurality of gun deaths are suicides. Why aren't we talking about that?

On the science writing front, I get a little agitated that most physics/astronomy reporting is about dark matter/dark energy/black holes/quantum funny business/particle accelerators/string theory, because this leads to people thinking that's all there is to the fields. The largest field in physics is condensed matter physics, and those physicists are busily plugging away at stuff that is not influenced one iota by the Higgs boson or string theory. I suspect this bias toward speculative, cutting edge stuff leads people to think physics/astronomy is (a) unmoored from reality and nothing more than baseless theorizing and/or (b) too heady and bizarre for mere mortals to understand. Both attitudes are unhelpful.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 05, 2018, 04:54:43 AM
Oh, also, I saw that Johns Hopkins has a mostly online graduate science writing program and decided to check it out and start an application. I entered my basic info but didn't submit or upload any essays or writing samples, and yet half an hour later I got a call from admissions wanting to set up an interview to discuss the program, my application, etc. So they are apparently really into working with people through the application process, or they're desperate...

Anyway, that means I'll be busy with writing an application essay and preparing writing samples. For the MIT program, I just used some of my more polished pieces from my blog. None of those really look like the kind of concise, widely accessible write-ups we've been talking about in here and which I should have a handle on. So I maybe really should pick from one of your links and see what I can do in that arena.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 05:09:22 AM
[ninja'd]
Journalism is just plain bad at the big picture and the long view - there's always the next edition/episode to move on to, and never enough time to do anything true justice - even at news magazines and other venues that can afford to employ an investigative reporter taking over a month on a story in-depth do better, but rarely well enough, soon enough.  TV is most hopeless of all, the broadcast networks not having time to even give you all the headlines they should - and 24 hour cable is a massive waste of 24 hours, rarely bothering to bring up anything CBS didn't have to time mention.

Now I really do need to tell my high school principal story, and how horrifically they blew that.  I also have met a kid who later shot 13 people at school, and have some minor privileged information through a family connection by marriage, and --- they didn't get it all opposite-wrong, exactly, but there was a LOT of scrofulous speculation about the kid's dad and --- my sister-in-law nearly had a stroke in front of me watching CNN, and there was just some awful bullcrap reporting went down.

And yeah; obviously, this underpinnings stuff has very direct relevance to your science reporting goals.

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Well, if you can work out something with Johns Hopkins financially and all - I'm not actually qualified to teach this, and it's probably a very good idea.  I figure I can help you get off to a good start, though, and would be very glad to sorta consult and help with homework and stuff.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 05, 2018, 11:40:55 AM
Yeah, I certainly don't expect you to teach me a whole class. But I appreciate your insight and experience. And this is fun.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
It is.


Monkeys, btw.

I wanted to mention that anything who can learn 600 words and carry on a conversation isn't an animal, as traditionally defined.  Killing a great ape for bush meat is murder, IMO, and cannibalism-adjacent.  I've read transcripts of Koko conversations that struck me as, without any exaggeration, about the level of sophistication of my I.Q.-of-30 stepcousin.  Now, there's nothing wrong with we, collectively, taking a greater interest in the welfare and rights of a dim member of our own species, but HE has all the legal rights of a human being, and indeed some of the legal rights of an adult, which means my uncle always gets to vote twice.  Meanwhile, Koko and all the other apes in intelligence studies who, again, are about as bright and have minds capable of language and conversation -which surely makes them some sort of PEOPLE- have zero rights, and I reckon that's a profound wrong.

If I was looking to get into science journalism myself, I'd definitely try to educate myself on the anthropology/primatology/zoology intelligences studies, what-have-you, enough to be able to read the relevant journals and pitch all the ape, especially ape intelligence, stories possible.  Open advocacy might tend to be counterproductive, but using the gatekeeper function to put the evidence out there in people's faces over and over all the traffic will bear and make the conclusion inescapable wouldn't be.  -ALSO?  People love monkeys, and monkey stories won't be hard to sell to editors/venues.  Monkey stories I copy/paste here do better for drawing eyes on Facebook than a lot of things, up there with how I expect the Neanderthal story I'm about to post to do. (Which you should read, not least for being largely about science journalism issues.)

I would just strongly urge you, given your science-writing interests/agenda, to look into that, a morally-important issue that shining lot of light on could really do some good.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
When my mom was a little girl, they had chickens, and she noticed one of the ways chickens are very stupid while throwing out feed.  Throw out a handful - all the chickens run over and start pecking - fine.  Quickly throw out a second handful, and ALL the chickens leave the unfinished first handful and run to the second.

The analogy is pretty obvious in a journalism context - and I'm half serious whenever I talk about The Group Mind.  I've seen a sort of mob psychology going on everywhere I looked my entire life, there being some social cue thing in the air for our social species that I tend not to even know is there, let alone understand.  (It is a stupid, stupid thing, the Group Mind, and frequently hateful/vicious, certainly when it takes notice of me.)  -And you came in already seeing a lot of the problem to that when the gatekeepers are all doing it in concert, which they most certainly do.  Journalism tends to draw brighter-than-average people, but collectively, in no way resistant to groupthink, rather to the contrary - as various brands of opinion leaders, they do of lot of leading each other around in feeding frenzies and virtually masturbatory exercises/ news circle jerks.


-My boiz from the old days in WPC OT probably remember that Bad Journalism is a long-running bugbear of mine - I tend to bring these sorts of issues up a lot when the community finds something in current events interesting to discuss, which you've probably seen here a few times.  You've unleased a monster...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 06:58:26 PM
-And this is getting a bit afield, but the #MeToo movement and the High School students protesting for sanity in our policies re: murder tools both make me a little twitchy, even though I strongly agree that men being horrible pigs are bad, and so are murder tools everywhere.  -I wish the former hadn't nailed Charley Rose and Kevin Spacey, but that's not my problem with it; it's just that both movements are setting off my Group Mind detector - it looks to me like a lot of pile-on mob psychology going on, and --- I won't be surprised if both movements end up going way too far -again, not because I have reservations about either cause- and causing more harm than good, if the later even turns out to have any staying power and achieves anything.  Call it the French Revolution Effect, as a great example of the Group Mind going so way too far that they end up with Napoleon, and all the political murder being for nothing.  (It's a fundamental problem with revolutionary movements -witness how Lenin perverted Marx, leading to Stalin- not knowing when to ease off on the killing, but it's definitely also a mob psychology problem and something responsible mass communications gatekeepers need to be aware of and wrestle with how to handle.)  Journalism has a way of being about life the universe, and everything, in the end, when it's done responsibly with awareness of the power wielded for good or evil.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2018, 07:12:18 PM
-And I don't get why an awards show is polluting my science news at all -not stuff like that isn't typical- but then, I don't get why people watch awards shows at all.  I don't get a lot of things, sportsball being a great example, and resent it being shoved down my throat always, everywhere.  There IS a journalism/mass media group mind issue to that.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 06, 2018, 10:04:38 PM
Today I've had the "feel like talking at length to Momma for no particular reason" random event trigger, and am way behind again.  Burned non-trivial time on some posts, too, and I only just wrapped up with 'Poly, the third place I look after here.   ;clenchedteeth

If I'm going to let you down on doing the editor stuff to your writing, I need to at least go dig up the two-pager I wrote when I was editor of the campus paper trying to train a completely green staff, and see what can be done with scanning an old dot-matrix printer document.  It's only, like, two pages, and covers easily 90% or more of the hardcore journalism style stuff you need to write for any venue that even cares.  With that much, junk I've already posted, and being available for discussion and questions and all-around help -and anything else strikes me to essay about going forward- I can hand you over to Johns Hopkins with a not-terribly-guilt-laden conscience.

You can do it.  You have the tools(talent) and can learn the technology.

If you never end up writing science for money, I'm determined it won't be because I didn't do enough - I'll step up my game if Johns Hopkins don't.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 06, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
...Which is not officially giving up on doing the editor stuff, mind; just, adjusting to a mood swing ATM and finally admitting the prospects are dicey.  That procrastination cycle stuff is real, for them of us who are troubled with it...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 07, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
(Currently working on a piece about optical interferometers that can resolve the surfaces of distant stars, because I was struck by inspiration. It's hard to discuss interferometers without going into at least a little math (unless you just say: an array of telescopes act like one telescope as big as the distance between them), so I'm trying to figure out how to do this for a lay audience. Anyway, I haven't been inspired to write anything in months, so I'm going with it.)

Re: monkeys, animal cognition (and cognition in general) is very fascinating to me and I'd certainly like to shine some light on that. The moral/advocacy aspect of it is something I'd like to avoid in general, though. I'm much more interested in giving people (a) the tools required to debate something thoughtfully and (b) the facts required to participate in the debate. This is where the philosophical side of me comes in. It's too easy for me to take an issue like animal rights and explode it into an entire discussion of other minds, AI, epistemology, and skepticism, at which point the very practical question of how we should treat animal X seems (to me) distant and meaningless.

Those are all things I want to write about (desperately at times), but I know from experience (Poooooooly) how unproductive that's been for me. I feel significantly more confident in my capacity to explain cool science stuff than my capacity to get people to take philosophy seriously.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 06:44:59 PM
On that last - The greater Civ community of which we are part draws a lot more engineers than literary types.  Nerds have a dangerous affinity for immature trash 'philosophies' like objectivism, and anything that tries to examine degree instead of kind is too subtitle for their dichotomous nerd world-view.  Nerds don't tend to do nuance at all, as any innate impulses towards that tend to make you not a nerd.

Re: monkeys, animal cognition (and cognition in general) is very fascinating to me and I'd certainly like to shine some light on that. The moral/advocacy aspect of it is something I'd like to avoid in general, though. I'm much more interested in giving people (a) the tools required to debate something thoughtfully and (b) the facts required to participate in the debate. This is where the philosophical side of me comes in. It's too easy for me to take an issue like animal rights and explode it into an entire discussion of other minds, AI, epistemology, and skepticism, at which point the very practical question of how we should treat animal X seems (to me) distant and meaningless.
Isn't that what I said?

I'm a ferocious carnivore from a social conservative background (and make no mistake, I AM a social conservative, albeit one like Rusty, who takes a libertarian attitude towards what sins of others are MY problem -and we share a basic awareness of our incomplete knowledge of The Other- and is why he and I can talk politics so profitably, despite having drawn some wildly divergent conclusions - we still have that common base) and I'm not coming from an animal rights place at all; can talk = people, in my book, and that makes it one of the most important moral issues there is.  Just put that basic science out there w/o slant, but choose to do those stories whenever you can, and SHINE that light, son!
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 07, 2018, 06:58:41 PM
Yeah. I'm just pointing out that my angle here is probably slightly different from yours. From my ever-expanding, all-consuming, telepathic, techno-blob perch, making a difference in the world is focused more on making us better thinkers than on, like, reducing poverty or other actually important things.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 07:05:12 PM
I oppose your blob to the death, BTW, (but not the techno - though I think we do need to be wiser about it, not to go all Riffkin on you.)

-I said wiser and not smarter by design - they're related, not interchangeable.  Nerds are good at smart -except the dumb ones, a distinction mundanes don't see much- not so much wise.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 07:16:31 PM
Oh - and I know what you're trying to do with the philosophy topics there, but they still might do better here - way less crowd, sadly, but more nuance.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 07:55:03 PM
And I just posted a quantum computer story because, techno-blob adjacent.  I find that sort of thing boring, so feedback would help me cater to your druthers.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 08:34:13 PM
http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/s41559-018-0488-4 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/s41559-018-0488-4)

-That's about Paleolithic knapping tech, but I wanted to say that intelligence studies are indeed fascinating, not just the stuff with hand-jiving monkeys.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 10:07:00 PM
Oh - and in writing up a sample or two to show Johns Hopkins -and do let them see your blog, which demonstrates your mastery of science and language, which demonstrates that you are ready once taught style; that's a young man they can do something with and help if they're any good- I have two very general bits of advice, both that you already know:

By default, you're not dry as dust, but you are too dry.  I haven't figured out what's to be done about that, as you do work in humor in your blog articles, but your mode of expression in humor is naturally low-affect/subtle/droll.  I work heavily in sarcasm myself, IRL, but the inflection in text issue tends to be a problem.  It would be a mistake for you to wacka-wacka that excrement up the way I might, 'cause humor is an intuitive gut thing, never more craft than art, despite the efforts of many an improv coach.  Throwing in some jokes is far from the only tactic to liven up your writing, of course, but deserving of contemplation, including the possibility that you should avoid trying jokes (unless you would have made one anyway...)  But you could stand to figure out some angle of attack on the fact that, as long as I've known you, you have a fundamentally low-affect/somber mode of expression in print.

(My own TOE for humor is that it works on the shock of recognition.  There's frequently a set-up and reverse -the most common comedy theory teachers of comedy use- and always at least a moment of surprise.  Theories about words ending in K are garbage.  But hippies are funny.  Monkeys are funny.  At renfairs, turkey legs are funny.  These are things that it's hard to blow a joke involving, and there are more, so try to notice them, remember, and use in the right place.)


The other is - cut.  Cut to the bone.  You've been a little ruined by your academic training, that you write science consistently to prove your case, not just to explain that bit of science..  You're going to have to focus.

A basic journalism principal (that gets frequently forgotten at most levels of the profession, alas) is to assume your audience knows nothing.  Not least in science writing.  You do that, writing like you're teaching sophomore science, assuming they'll need to know all the digressions, like parallax is how (Ed) Hubble was able to measure the distance of close cephid variables, 'and here's how that works, in short'.  Does someone unfamiliar with parallax, but reading that astronomy article, need to learn now, or will (s)he take your assertion that "Hubble measured" on faith?  You'll find the latter more true.

(Also, your parallax digression could have been shorter and simpler and clearer.  "Hold a finger still a foot in front of your face.  Closing one eye at a time and switching back-and-forth rapidly you'll see it move against the background.  Your pupils are roughly three inches apart.  By taking photos of a star twice, six months apart, you get an observation  baseline of 186,000,000 miles apart, and with WWI technology 100 years ago they could use that measure out to 11 light years away.  [Modern technology has pushed the parallax measurement limit close to 4,000lyr.])  (If this was for an article, I'd pee away 20 minutes, if I had them, trying to cut the wording by half-to-at-least-a-third-less before submitting.  -And I did resist the impulse to insert "this is how binocular vision works" [shrugs].)

Summarize, summarize, summarize, not try to report the whole of the paper with rigor - it's for laymen, not peer-review.  I refer you back to
A thing to be thinking, meanwhile, is about how you approach a science write-up thematically for a broad audience.  You need to figure out going in what the 'hook' is; what about it is of interest to the great unwashed, both the general public and especially them of us as has no particular science education but read science articles anyway.  What's weird, wild, and/or 'sexy' about it?  Is it the cause of anything laymen know about IRL?  Does it make anything light up or help explain life the universe and everything?  Are there any technology implications/possible advances in anything people have or encounter IRL?
What's the central point of what you're translating?  Give it in one sentence before you start elaborating into an article.  -Now throw that one out and give us a short sentence in baby-talk.-  Try writing suggested headlines before you start the rest (you can always add more later as they strike you, and they will, but this is for focus and inspiration).

Summarize, cut to the bone and focus.  You need lean prose more than lively (funny) and more than even familiarity with journalism style.  Your purpose is not to report the paper, but the paper's scientific point.  (You're basically just to write up their conclusion, and focus that.)  (Do mine for any usable quotes in English; journalism hates to assert anything, and loves to tell what somebody said, not least so they get any blame.  -Your work needs scientists-quotes to work as journalism; notice this in the next few mainstream science articles you read; lotsa quotes.)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 11:33:08 PM
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hvi/uploads/science_paper/file_attachment/309/published_AJ_WASP_39b_paper.pdf (http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hvi/uploads/science_paper/file_attachment/309/published_AJ_WASP_39b_paper.pdf)



(Happily, there's a place in science writing for nuking the topic from orbit -mostly textbooks, but also prep/cribsheets for briefing spokesmen in PR stuff, also a politician's staff science consultant, and both the latter cases will need a horkheimer leading the thorough nuking that's only there in case of questions- and you done got that covered.  When you get versatile enough to cover a story any way from UPI to horkheimered to National Geographic to your blog, your chance to get money for writing about science, regularly, [and to save the monkeys and push the blob and straighten the ****wits out about how science is done] will be optimized.)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 07, 2018, 11:47:46 PM
Also, cheat for your JH writing sample to the extent of finding the article the journal link you chose is from before you start writing - no need to follow the pro writer in focus or arrangement or anything, but merely to study how (s)he approached dumbing it down enough for me to read lightly and not find it a slog.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 08, 2018, 01:16:08 AM
 ;nod Thank you, this is good stuff for me to think about. Especially...

You've been a little ruined by your academic training, that you write science consistently to prove your case, not just to explain that bit of science..  You're going to have to focus.

Man, I know this is my problem, but I've never quite been able to figure out why I go on digression after digression. But yeah, you're absolutely right, I'm trying to prove rather than explain.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 01:34:38 AM
Good man.  Owning it straight up without self-hatred.  You CAN do this.

I do better than I should at tying it all together on the fly by the end of a long post, but yes, I do personally grok having a problem with digression. ;)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 02:10:36 AM
I need to add that I have read your entire blog unless you added something in the last week.  You know I read it, but I need to remind you.  I did not start as a favor to you, but because I like and respect you (oh, tell your inner child to shut the **** up; you've never caught me in a lie because I've never told you one; I like and respect you) and I'm a nosy SOB.  I was being nosy.  I'd have skimmed if you sucked, and never brought it up.  I didn't have to read everything because you weren't watching - my eyes bounced off anything faintly mathy, yes, and it was more work than I prefer in reading to be reading, but I did read everything not-mathy - because you told me stuff I didn't know.  I don't deny that it was a slog, but I read everything by choice and learned.  If I wasn't gay for outer space, yeah, I'd have skimmed, like, two posts really fast and never gone back.  But people who like the kind of thing you talk about are your audience and no one else, so it works as the thing you intended.

This is an order; believe it all the way down that you are good enough that a high IQ space nut, but a lazy reader w/ a psychological block for maths and with no college-level hard science whatsoever (communications is a 'science' - a soft, soft [progeny of unmarried parents] of sociology and vocational school for mass media taken mostly by former business majors who couldn't handle the accounting math and former English majors who couldn't pass French) read the whole thing and learned stuff.

You did that.  You can do this.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 02:35:33 AM
-And if all else fails, cut me in for a third, maybe 25% -I do nothing but edit/re-write you and you do all the rest of the work reading papers, generating basic copy/translating, and dealing with venues- and we'll collaborate.

-Also, I could handle the papers in communications, I know for an absolute fact -Mylochka holds a PhD in communications and I've read a lot of the literature at that level helping her with syllabi, (and the level of writing and the rigor thereof is disappointing in that field)- and maybe some adjacent soft sciences, too...

Just, when your inner Lori is hatin' on you hard enough about trying to be the next Carl Sagan/Neil Degrassi Jr High Tyson, remember the option is available, and you'll learn the ropes and not need me forever and I could use the pocket money for a while, so self-interest and not a favor, no long-term commitment, but I do got your back and tell the crazy to shut up when that happens in regard to this aspiration of yours...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 02:40:44 AM
And if we ever become acquainted IRL, I'll try to get you laid. That's both a joke and true; I'm not bad at arranging for anyone but me to get some lovin'.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 02:56:52 AM
What if I was to change your custom user title to "Literally a self-hating jew"?  Funny, too on the nose, or both?

It IS funny, sorry.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 08, 2018, 03:18:22 AM
Well, I think I'd hate myself even if I weren't a Jew. ;)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2018, 04:07:45 AM
;)  I don't doubt it for a second - but where's the shock of recognition in "Self-hating person"?
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Rusty Edge on March 09, 2018, 05:28:47 PM
Well, I think I'd hate myself even if I weren't a Jew. ;)

I'll take you at your word.

But it doesn't have to stay that way. I know it's uncomfortable for introverts like us, but by sustaining an effort to be kind/nice to people, talking to and smiling at strangers- both you and others will feel better about you. I had a sales job after working more or less alone for 20 years. I had to learn to connect with people, so I practiced everywhere I went.  A simple good morning, weather comment, or, being a scientist with mad observation skills- you can find something to sincerely compliment.

It's not easy, but it gets easier. When you see somebody's face light up when you tell them that you hope you have hair as great as they do when you reach their age, it will make both of your days.

You managed your move, you can do this, too!
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 09, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
Well, I think I'd hate myself even if I weren't a Jew. ;)

I'll take you at your word.

But it doesn't have to stay that way. I know it's uncomfortable for introverts like us, but by sustaining an effort to be kind/nice to people, talking to and smiling at strangers- both you and others will feel better about you. I had a sales job after working more or less alone for 20 years. I had to learn to connect with people, so I practiced everywhere I went.  A simple good morning, weather comment, or, being a scientist with mad observation skills- you can find something to sincerely compliment.

It's not easy, but it gets easier. When you see somebody's face light up when you tell them that you hope you have hair as great as they do when you reach their age, it will make both of your days.

You managed your move, you can do this, too!
Lori, I know you well enough to be near 100% sure that you instantly blew the above off as trite-ish and not the right tack for you and your strengths and weaknesses...

You would be surprisingly wrong, if so - look, I don't talk about that side of my issues much, other than labeling myself a hermit, but I totally do the social anxiety and hiding stuff like you do -worse in fact, 'cause you still leave the house and I've given up completely - I even hate/dread having to go five minutes to the store every two weeks to score a couple cartons; they might be out of stock, or the price has raised and I brought exact change, or any or a million weird/unpleasant/uncomfortable things my powerful imagination wants to generate...

-Which is to say, this is an issue of yours I fancy I completely get, but I've greeted strangers in renfairs avec tights and elf-talk, and I've flown two convenience stores solo on third shift -and read my job description and was the best employee both places about obeying the order to greet everyone as they entered the store- and in all those jobs, I was quickly able to force myself to break the ice and successfully make strangers feel liked, and I was good at it, and they liked me back and I quickly developed a straight-up habit in those jobs of doing and being that way and it was for fun and profit.

Look at it as the monkey rituals of our talking monkey species w/ its overwhelming trooping instinct requiring the monkey ritual grease, and that most of the 98% of monkeys not as bright as us picked it up monkey-see young and w/o reflection, and I did it late by calculation and you can, too.  Start saying "hello" more.  Perfunctory observation of the ritual is a very good thing that will pay off in spades

Better is to successfully fake sincerity, and I kid you not that it's not that hard to fake once you work out that the best way to fake sincerity is to find some level upon which to actually be sincere.  -Sounds like nonsense, but accosting strangers in renfairs, I quickly fell into looking for anything at all that I liked about what I saw of the strangers, and if you want to like strangers, I found that almost everyone has beautiful eyes if you want to see them.  In the stores, when having to constantly reminded me, I naturally went to a manner of saying it kindly with my eyes and my voice that imbued "Howdy!" with unmistakable undertones of I'm glad to see you and I like you.  I was saying it the way my Mom does, and copying someone good at it, monkey-see, is fine.

There is very little in this horrible hell of a universe where we find ourselves that I loathe more than unpleasantness with strangers - in jobs greeting/accosting/waiting on the public, I did everything I had in my power to pre-empt any possibility of that unpleasantness, precisely because I have crippling social anxiety --- and it made me very very GOOD at the interacting with strangers parts of those jobs.  Fooling everyone into feeling liked on First Contact is SO a basic your-welfare-positive basic social skill to be studied and cultivated, and again, faking sincerity works best when you can find something real in there to bring to he forefront of your mind and make it not faking.

And my hand to God as a fellow profound misanthrope, it's not actually all that hard to do and install as instinctive habit, good first contacts - though I'll probably always struggle with the maintenance day-to-day doing it in the hallway in passing - which you do also need to do.  TRY...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 10, 2018, 02:45:34 PM
-So, back on topic, I am officially too busy this week, and that probably isn't getting better soon - I've yet to have a look at Elok's story, too.  But I wanted to point out that any new science writing from you hasn't a procrastination cycle already attached.

And this: any questions?  Try to think of questions if you like.

(Oh, and is the email with your account here any good, or would I need to dig up the time Elok cc:ed us if I wanted to email you?)
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on March 12, 2018, 10:53:37 AM
Sorry for being absent here. Last week got bad. Uh, yeah, that email will work. No questions spring to mind at the moment, but it's 7 in the morning, so...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 15, 2018, 02:28:54 AM
A thought - rebrowsing the TCOL thread and just got to page seven and your big summation.

I read that and know you understand about the bones and structure and nuance of a fiction w/o you having ever shown me anything you've written.  It's cogent and insightful and organized and articulate and - hey, your language is lively and bounces along and --- THAT doesn't read like my pal on his science blog proving his science case.  You write up a bit of real science like you took on Elok's 500+ page novel at a stroke, and you don't need any coaching from me other than I root around and find that notebook with the two-page style guide and scan and share, you learn that and go at it writing like you're talking to Elok with a careful analysis - and you're ready, just like that.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
(Oh, and is the email with your account here any good, or would I need to dig up the time Elok cc:ed us if I wanted to email you?)
Something odd was going on with my email account; it ate the first two tries w/o appearing in Sent messages, and I have no way of knowing if you got the third try, as Elok did.  -Go check Writers' Workshop, willya?  I finished reading last night.
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 26, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Turns out the notebook in question was sitting on the bookshelf beside me in plain sight, almost, the whole time.  I scanned this as .jpgs to preserve the hand-editing marks I put in on purpose - I'm from before computers took over, when you HAD to know that stuff, and it's possible if you ended up in a brick and mortar staff gig, it could still come up, and you'd rather know the editing marks and not need them than the converse.

You might want to merge all six pages into a reference .pdf or something, also run off a hard copy.  I think this gives you a goodly 90% of all the formal AP Stylebook stuff you'll ever need, and like knowing the editing marks, you probably won't need to follow style this formally in our post-journalism age, but you'd rather have the ability and not need it...

The first two pages demonstrate a terse lede, and proper attribution for quotes and paraphrases -ignore that I substituted an online name for the benefit of strangers looking in- one and two-sentence paragraphs, and probably more that doesn't jump out at me...

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3028)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3029)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3030)
I don't remember writing this page, but I must have partly based it on something else - definitely wrote part of it.

-The rest is just some basics handouts I had left over from my formal schooling - good stuff, though.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3031)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3032)

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=3033)



Master this style guide, write me a good sample of anything science or other news -length to be determined by how much space the news in question needs to be tersely covered for a lay audience- and you should graduate Buncle's Free Off-The-Cuff Journalism 101 course with an A, and you're pretty much ready to ace the Johns Hopkins program - or go straight to pimpin' yo'self out for gigs...
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 04, 2019, 06:52:33 PM
Lori?  Anything to report?
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Geo on May 04, 2019, 07:54:30 PM
A Computer Model Has Finished Running Explaining Why The Moon Has More Of Earth In It Then Of Theia
Title: Re: Journal Links and Writing Science Articles
Post by: Lorizael on May 06, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
I ended up not applying to the Hopkins program because the more I looked into it, the more it just seemed like a... give us some money and we give you a master's degree that says Johns Hopkins on it... kind of thing. Haven't done much science writing in the interim. Haven't updated the blog.
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