Jedi "falling all over the place" ? I saw 2 jedi die, that I could notice readily. 1, very dramatically shot by the armor wearing guy while standing in front of the Sith guy. Another, just sorta falling down and getting wiped as the ring closes around the Jedi.
But mostly, the Jedi kick ass against overwhelming odds. They are almost but not quite invulnerable, it seems.
BTW that Boba Fett looking guy you say is blue, isn't Boba Fett. That's his Dad.
There are also world cultures where people can't tell the difference between blue and green (the Dinka cattle herders).
The preponderance of the evidence suggests that Jedi performance under incoming fire is exceptional. They're very unlikely to get shot and will go up against overwhelming firepower like it's no big deal.
I suppose if you ignore the jedi bodies litering the ground
and the defeated Jedi being held captive brought into the ring after the fighting stops, sure.
I'd argue we see trained people performing exceptionally throughout star wars, and scrubs sucking. Jedi, we see a highly trained group of people. It becomes pretty hard to separate training from magical powers.
R2 exceptional, not even alive to be able to use force.
Guess they started dying quicker than I thought, at 2 mins in.I suppose if you ignore the jedi bodies litering the ground
I saw mostly droid bodies littering the ground, not jedi.
Held at bay, not captive. And they weren't dead.
Particularly when the training is all about accessing your magical powers. What Would Harry Potter Do?
And the Star Wars universe didn't happen to evolve the efficacious alternative of traditional kinetic ammo, ala Stargate. Point being, blaster accuracy is a handwave. It's also bluntly dispelled in the original movie. Roughly: "Look at these blast points. Far too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial Stormtroopers are this precise."
The reason Stormtroopers miss, is simply plot armor.
Darth Vader, famously, not only does not get shot by Han Solo, he even causes blaster bolts to deflect or absorb in his palm.
IIRC the troopers on tatooine had a form of sniper rifle. That could explain the supreme accuracy comment.
They are quite effective in boarding Leia's ship.
The famously miss our heros in the death star, however, they are under orders to allow the enemy to escape, so this may be intentional.
No problems hitting rebels on Hoth.
Was it the force, or was it his robot hand?
We never saw if Vader had a robot hand, nor was it ever said he did.
Luke hacks off his hand in ROTJ and makes a point of staring at the mechanical stump, and then his own mechanical hand.
I don't think I actually grasped the whole Vader just shrugging off the blast on my original viewing of ESB to be honest.
I don't think I actually grasped the whole Vader just shrugging off the blast on my original viewing of ESB to be honest.
And that's the core of it. In fairness, we've never seen a Jedi or Sith perform this feat before. It's a new power.
They are effective at killing mooks. They completely miss the droid heroes that walk right through them. Yes they were probably not aiming for the droids, but considering the amount of fire everyone was laying down... one wonders if they'd miss the walls.
I'm not buying it. Those Stormtroopers who returned fire, were actually dying. You think it's their pay grade to make sure they die, just to be convincing? It is also not strictly necessary for all of the heroes to escape, only Leia and 1 Falcon pilot. The rest could be killed. No, the Stormtroopers were fighting for real. Command probably made sure the heroes faced very limited numbers of troops. Once Vader hatches the plan. They do have some fighting before then.
They're mooks.
Still makes sense I would have had the thought he was entirely robot except the head as a child, and therefore could be explained by weird armor.
That TOTALLY looks like a head on a robot to a kid, especially with how he walks and given the more machine than man line.
But he has lungs.
We don't see any droids in the original movies that have completely organic, fluid body movement. Rather, they move about "robotically". It is not reasonable to assume that Darth Vader is all robot. We're not sure how human he is, and at the end of ESB we see that cyborg tech is reasonably advanced, so it's like "how much of his arms and legs? Some / all of them?" We don't know.
This is where, in a reversal of our debating roles, I had the benefit of knowing a little bit about the intended movie lore. While waiting for ESB, many of us had heard rumors that Obi Wan and Darth Vader got in a big duel in a volcano. Obi Wan chopped him up and Vader got burned. That's why Vader has a number of replacement parts. It turned out this rumor was true. I was quite surprised at just how much of Vader they burned off in the 3rd prequel. I had never supposed he'd sustained that much damage. "Serious burn victim" I would have thought would be enough to justify the suit.
You see a head mounted on a robot. I see a support collar for a burn victim. I happened to have been right. The film is ambiguous, and probably deliberately so, to give writers maximum wiggle room. But it is a certainty, that the guy at least breathes, with mechanical assistance.
In any event, we never see any robots or any kind of body armor in Star Wars that's immune to blaster fire. The only substance that shows any basic immunity to blasters is "blast doors". It's just not credible, given the rest the universe, that Vader has a physical protective capability that nobody else has got. Why use shields if they have such materials?
In fact, we are made to wonder why Stormtroopers wear body armor at all. It doesn't seem to stop anything.
Exactly, and could the be bullet proof is not unreasonable IMO.
Logic don't work on children.
Very few things in the Star Wars universe take no damage when hit by blaster fire.
Supposedly mandalorian armor, though I don't think we ever see it.