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Title: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 29, 2017, 05:41:47 AM

Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www.asitis.com (http://www.asitis.com) {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 30, 2017, 07:24:35 AM

special note : Intelligence has to do with the soul, not simply with the brain.

Take electricity, for example. Electricity moves between gross elements and through a gross wire. But the electricity itself -- it is not those elements, not that wire. It is subtle.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on July 30, 2017, 03:00:40 PM

Electricity is a pretty great example, yeah. Electricity can lead to some pretty weird and complicated phenomena (semiconductors, lightning, solar flares, etc.), yet electricity at its core is just the bulk movement of charged particles, explained with exquisite accuracy by Maxwell's equations (or quantum electrodynamics, if you prefer).

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 30, 2017, 03:36:53 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on July 30, 2017, 03:00:40 PM

Electricity is a pretty great example, yeah. Electricity can lead to some pretty weird and complicated phenomena (semiconductors, lightning, solar flares, etc.), yet electricity at its core is just the bulk movement of charged particles, explained with exquisite accuracy by Maxwell's equations (or quantum electrodynamics, if you prefer).

and now You can avoid the creator, but you cannot say He doesn't exist. Whether or not you accept the creator's authority is your business; but you cannot say there is no creator.

For example :- there are so many outlaws who say, "We don't want to obey the government." If you don't like the government, that is your business. But there is a government -- you can't deny that.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on July 30, 2017, 03:53:01 PM

Wow, so not interested in debating whether there is a creator. If you'd like to live as if there is one, go right ahead. I'm going to live as if we have the capacity to predict outcomes in the natural world based on physical and mathematical laws and then try to figure out why that might be the case.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 30, 2017, 05:15:42 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on July 30, 2017, 03:53:01 PM

Wow, so not interested in debating whether there is a creator. If you'd like to live as if there is one, go right ahead. I'm going to live as if we have the capacity to predict outcomes in the natural world based on physical and mathematical laws and then try to figure out why that might be the case.

alright then tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. and prove yourself.

and if you cannot do it than how can you jump beyond your 10th grandfather ? and tell us what is what ? with your imaginations like evolution, big bang, moon landing, position of universe, life comes from matter, this or that etc ?

how can you conclude so many nonsense ? how can you go beyong your 10th grandfather ? when you already cannot tell us his name ?

so who is accepting your nonsense in the first place ? who accepts you `1st of all ? and where is example in the history where people learns from those people who are already failure ?

for you cannot tell us name of your 10th grandfather. but you are simply imagining beyond him. so who is accepting your nonsense imaginations ?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 30, 2017, 05:48:23 PM

...My partner banned a Hare Krisna  a few years ago with a very similar arguing style.  Consider this a warning to not get carried away in the heat of discussion...

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on July 31, 2017, 01:52:39 AM

Quote from: rukaan on July 30, 2017, 05:15:42 PM

alright then tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. and prove yourself.

Not interested in proving that either. I can look up at an approaching storm front and accurately predict that it's going to rain without knowing the positions of each individual rain drop.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 31, 2017, 05:28:17 AM

Quote from: BUncle on July 30, 2017, 05:48:23 PM

...My partner banned a Hare Krisna  a few years ago with a very similar arguing style.  Consider this a warning to not get carried away in the heat of discussion...

policy is very nice somehow or other *give dog bad name and hang it* but it will not work in my case.

and what material you have so that you will discuss ? what material you have `1st of all ? simply imaginations. since if we properly check then you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfather. but you are telling us everything with your imaginations beyond your 10th grandfather. like evolution, big bang, moon landing, position of universe, this or that etc.

so who is accepting an fraud hypocrite like you ? who is already failure in telling us name of his 10th grandfather. but still i have to accept your nonsense imaginations **beyond** your 10th grandfather. ( just see the fun )

you keep yourself into darkness. and practically there is no loss on my part. you go to hell. i have done my business.

and who accepts you ? who is accepting you ?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 31, 2017, 05:31:29 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on July 31, 2017, 01:52:39 AM

Quote from: rukaan on July 30, 2017, 05:15:42 PM

alright then tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. and prove yourself.

Not interested in proving that either. I can look up at an approaching storm front and accurately predict that it's going to rain without knowing the positions of each individual rain drop.

and who is accepting your nonsense ? since you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather.

so who accepts anything from you ? who is accepting your imaginations like evolution, big bang, moon landing, position of universe, life comes from matter, this or that etc ?

who accepts your nonsense predictions ? since you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfather. but disease is jumping beyond him. ( just see the fun )

thus you are simply to be rejected. that is all. ( finished )

for there is no example in the entire history where people learns from an fraud hypocrite like you. who cannot tell us his 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfathers name.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Elok on July 31, 2017, 05:59:06 AM

As it happens, I do know the name of my tenth grandfather, or could look it up given enough time.  My first name "Brayton" was the last name of my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.  His first name was Francis.  I'm rather glad my parents went with Brayton instead.

Do I win something?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on July 31, 2017, 06:12:33 AM

Quote from: Elok on July 31, 2017, 05:59:06 AM

As it happens, I do know the name of my tenth grandfather, or could look it up given enough time.  My first name "Brayton" was the last name of my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.  His first name was Francis.  I'm rather glad my parents went with Brayton instead.

Do I win something?

and im not asking for your neigbours name. ( nonsense idiot ) im asking for your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather name.

and if you cannot tell us his name than how can you jump million or billion years ago ? with your imaginations like evolution, big bang, moon landing, position of universe, life comes from matter, this or that etc ?

so who accepts an fraud hypocrite like you ? who accepts you ?

since you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfather. and i have to still accept such an *piss of his neigbour* ( just see the folly )

along with his imaginations which are all *beyond* his 10th grandfather. ( just see the fun ) so who is accepting you ?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2017, 01:11:17 PM

Warned and rude anyway - 24 hour vacation, and it goes up next time..

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2017, 05:15:39 PM

Quote from: rukaan on July 29, 2017, 05:41:47 AM

sleeping, eating, sex & fear

AKA heaven. 

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:30:34 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 31, 2017, 01:11:17 PM

Warned and rude anyway - 24 hour vacation, and it goes up next time..

policy is nice **give dog bad name and hang it** is that is how you maintain your fools paradise ?

than have fun in your **fools paradise**  ;)

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:31:46 PM

Quote from: Unorthodox on July 31, 2017, 05:15:39 PM

Quote from: rukaan on July 29, 2017, 05:41:47 AM

sleeping, eating, sex & fear

AKA heaven.

heaven ? alright so next question is If everything is pleasure, then why you take the counteractive process ( in sex life ) ? Why do you want to kill child? Pleasure? Why do you take contraceptive method if it is pleasure?

what is your answer ?**lusty hog** ( and you do know it ? that your western civilization is suicidal or soul killing civilization.)

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:33:35 PM

and what happened to @Lorizael and @Elok ? where is your rationality or thoughtfulness now ?

simply fraud hypocrites. where are your rational answers now ?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 01, 2017, 01:35:38 PM

Quote from: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:30:34 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 31, 2017, 01:11:17 PM

Warned and rude anyway - 24 hour vacation, and it goes up next time..

policy is nice **give dog bad name and hang it** is that is how you maintain your fools paradise ?

than have fun in your **fools paradise**  ;)

I will.

Does Krishna want you alienating potential coverts with bad manners?

Quote from: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:33:35 PM

fraud hypocrites

48 hours.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2017, 01:49:57 PM

Quote from: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:31:46 PM

Quote from: Unorthodox on July 31, 2017, 05:15:39 PM

Quote from: rukaan on July 29, 2017, 05:41:47 AM

sleeping, eating, sex & fear

AKA heaven.

heaven ? alright so next question is If everything is pleasure, then why you take the counteractive process ( in sex life ) ? Why do you want to kill child? Pleasure? Why do you take contraceptive method if it is pleasure?

what is your answer ?**lusty hog** ( and you do know it ? that your western civilization is suicidal or soul killing civilization.)

Vāmamārga is not for everyone, I admit.  Yet, without the profane, the pure cannot exist. 

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on August 01, 2017, 10:54:13 PM

Quote from: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:33:35 PM

and what happened to @Lorizael and @Elok ? where is your rationality or thoughtfulness now ?

simply fraud hypocrites. where are your rational answers now ?

Hey man, if repeating yourself in bold and hurling weird insults is your thing, you do you. If you actually want to have a discussion with anyone here, maybe adjust your strategy.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 03, 2017, 01:48:44 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on August 01, 2017, 10:54:13 PM

Quote from: rukaan on August 01, 2017, 01:33:35 PM

and what happened to @Lorizael and @Elok ? where is your rationality or thoughtfulness now ?

simply fraud hypocrites. where are your rational answers now ?

Hey man, if repeating yourself in bold and hurling weird insults is your thing, you do you. If you actually want to have a discussion with anyone here, maybe adjust your strategy.

alright alright ( i beg my sorry for wrong attitude ) now kindly tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather.

come on ( friend ) tell us his name. ( so that we can make progess in argument )
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i have good hope ( now ) that you will come back and give us your reply.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 12:51:30 PM

@Lorizael and @Elok now i even have begged my pardon.  :( so come on friend(s)

now tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. so that we can make progess in the argument.

where are you now ? is that you will never forgive me ? OR cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather ? ( if you remained silent now than argument is finished before starting  ;) )
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@Lorizael and @Elok let us hope that you will come back to tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather.

so that we can see what is what. 

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 04, 2017, 01:21:45 PM

Elok's taking two weeks off the internet for an Orthodox feast.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 01:51:09 PM

Quote from: BUncle on August 04, 2017, 01:21:45 PM

Elok's taking two weeks off the internet for an Orthodox feast.

oh im vert thankful to you.  :) because of you i have realised my mistake. thank you. cuz you are real first class gentleman. so i ask my pardon again.

and it doesnt matters if he doesnt come for 2 more years. atleast your @Lorizael will tell us answer. and if remained silent also, than argument is finished before starting. and his silent will be proof that he cannot supply us anything rational at all.  ;)

that is all. ( finished )
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and anyway my ( good ) friend why dont you tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather ? you tell us his name atleast.  ;)

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 04, 2017, 01:56:44 PM

My mom's into genealogy - I could probably find out with minimal effort.

-Not that interested in whatever you're getting at/being in this conversation, though.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 02:14:10 PM

Quote from: BUncle on August 04, 2017, 01:56:44 PM

My mom's into genealogy - I could probably find out with minimal effort.

-Not that interested in whatever you're getting at/being in this conversation, though.

then why are you interested in jumping beyond your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather ?? with your imaginations like evolution, big bang, position of universe, moon landing, life comes from matter, this or that etc ? why ?

why are you interested in all these things?? which are all beyond your 10th grandfather ? why ? what is the reason ? tell us that reason.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 08:27:05 PM

buncle@ now your silence is the proof that you are dead horse first class gentleman.

sorry if i have offended you. i beg my pardon again. and i have learn something good from you. thank you ( friend )  ;)

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 04, 2017, 08:59:52 PM

Siighh - my silence is proof that I don't find this conversation interesting.

-Pushing the limits of manners and apologizing is not good enough, BTW - I was seriously tempted to give you 96 hours off for this last post alone.

I think it's wonderful that you've found Krishna, and Krishna rocks your world.  -However, being really aggressive towards anyone incautious enough to post in this thread is unacceptable.  You are nothing but welcome, encouraged, in fact, to hold forth at great length about just how and why Krishna rocks your world - but insulting, badgering with the same question over and over, being REALLY uncomfortably intense and aggressive --- will neither win anyone to Krishna nor fail to get you permabanned if it keeps up.

Please, be interesting, instead, and tell us about how you found Krishna and what He does for you and all that - maybe answer some questions as they arise.  I'm sure we're all somewhat curious about Hare Krishnas and what the deal is with airports and flowers and all that.

Incidentally, the proximate cause of sisko banning you last time?  -Calling Green1 a "nonsense rascal"?  Pretty funny, knowing Green1, and I made "Nonsense Rascal" his custom user title afterwards to his amusement and mine...

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 09:43:06 PM

Quote from: BUncle on August 04, 2017, 08:59:52 PM

Siighh - my silence is proof that I don't find this conversation interesting**skip**mine...

then again same question that why are you interested in jumping beyond your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather ?? with your imaginations like evolution, big bang, position of universe, moon landing, life comes from matter, this or that etc ? why ?

why are you interested in all these things?? which are all beyond your 10th grandfather ? why ? what is the reason ?

tell us that reason. my ( dear ) first class saint gentleman.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 04, 2017, 09:55:06 PM

I've concluded that if he has proven I don't exist, I'm not obligated to acknowledge him.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 04, 2017, 09:55:06 PM

I've concluded that if he has proven I don't exist, I'm not obligated to acknowledge him.

and your conclusion is bogus just as your *if* is.  ;) ( first class hypocrite fraud sorry gentleman )

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on August 04, 2017, 11:12:27 PM

Re: my 10th grandfather

You seem to be arguing that, if we are ignorant of a small detail regarding a large thing (history, evolution, or cosmology, say), we can't possibly know the large thing in its entirety. On the surface, this makes a kind of sense. If X is composed of 5 parts, and you only know about 4 of those parts, then you don't know X but something else, something less significant.

The problem is that this mischaracterizes why science is at all successful. In fact, we're able to know about large things precisely because we don't know the details. The power of science is in abstracting away those details which obscure underlying truths.

Take this here internet thing which you're using to proselytize. You surely believe it exists. Well, the internet runs on computers, of course, and at their heart computers are made of transistors, which are built out of semiconductors. Semiconductors are useful because, depending on what you do to them, they can either pass or block current. This means semiconductors can create switches, which is where the digital part of a digital computer comes from.

Well, in order to create transistors out of semiconductors, scientists at Bell Labs had to understand solid state physics--the quantum mechanics of big hunks of stuff. Since there are something like a million billion billion particles moving around in any reasonably sized hunk of material, and each one is governed by an evolving wavefunction, the task of understanding a solid seems somewhat hopeless.

But that's where the power of abstraction comes in. You can pretend, mathematically, that a solid is an infinitely big, symmetric crystal and ignore the vast majority of stuff in that crystal. Doing so lets you find solutions that give rise to what's known as band theory, where you act as if a solid has only a couple broad energy levels that are relevant for your purposes. With this theory and understanding, you can (and the scientists at Bell Labs did) build transistors that eventually lead you to this here internet.

You can only do that, however, by explicitly ignoring most of what's in an object, by pretending the individual atoms and electrons don't matter. They are there, but focusing on them means you miss the forest for the trees. It is only through abstraction, through forgetting about the details of so and so's 10th grandfather, that we can find the underlying rules.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 11:28:45 PM

Quote from: Lorizael on August 04, 2017, 11:12:27 PM

Re: my 10th grandfather

You seem to be arguing that, **skip**we can find the underlying rules.

sorry ( friend ) but im not asking for useless word jugglery. cuz your word jugglery has no value. simply tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. and finish the business.

no other nonsense is wanted. only tell us his name and finish the business.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 12:02:43 AM

No.

Since you are in fact clearly not interested in discussion, have a fun life and take whatever joy you can from thinking you won here or made some point.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 05, 2017, 12:11:15 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 12:02:43 AM

No.

Since you are in fact clearly not interested in discussion, have a fun life and take whatever joy you can from thinking you won here or made some point.

no what ? ( friend )  `1st of all no what ? and i dont want any nonsense at all. i simply want to see facts. and i dont want to see any other nonsense.

so kindly tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. and finish the business.

so that we can make progress in argument. come on ( friend ) tell us his name.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2017, 12:28:40 AM

Quote from: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 04, 2017, 09:55:06 PM

I've concluded that if he has proven I don't exist, I'm not obligated to acknowledge him.

and your conclusion is bogus just as your *if* is.  ;) ( first class hypocrite fraud sorry gentleman )

Last warning.

(-Since you quoted the unimportant part of my post and skipped the real message.)  You may not ask the same question over and over, and you may not insult members and try to take it back in the same post.  I have no patience for rules lawyers and zero tolerance for that sort of game.  You've stopped being entertaining, and you're going to completely stop being unpleasant or you're gone.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 05, 2017, 12:31:23 AM

Quote from: BUncle on August 05, 2017, 12:28:40 AM

Quote from: rukaan on August 04, 2017, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on August 04, 2017, 09:55:06 PM

I've concluded that if he has proven I don't exist, I'm not obligated to acknowledge him.

and your conclusion is bogus just as your *if* is.  ;) ( first class hypocrite fraud sorry gentleman )

Last warning.

You may not ask the same question over and over, and you may not insult members and try to take it back in the same post.  I have no patience for rules lawyers and zero tolerance for that sort of game.  You've stopped being entertaining, and you're going to completely stop being unpleasant or you're gone.

ok i will take it as an note. my mistake. pardon mod.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: rukaan on August 05, 2017, 12:44:25 AM

@Lorizael let us keep win or loss, sorrow and joy all in side. and simply tell us name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. so that we can make progress in argument.

come on ( friend ) just tell us his name and finish the business.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2017, 01:49:51 AM

Quote from: BUncle on August 05, 2017, 12:28:40 AM

You may not ask the same question over and over

Quote from: rukaan on August 05, 2017, 12:44:25 AM

and simply tell us name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather.

Obviously, I have to demonstrate again that I'm not empty talk - see you in 4 days.

Try to cool it with the boldface and other "shouting" behaviors, too, please.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 02:08:17 AM

If we repeat this cycle just 38 more times, the sun will be dead.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2017, 02:21:50 AM

Ah, as Krishna wills it - but I probably perma next.

-And I certainly hope the sun lasts past Tuesday...

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 02:31:57 AM

I just need the sun to last until the moon eats it in two and a half weeks.

Anywho, this thread has given me inspiration for a post about continuum subtraction, comets, explanatory power, and the dangers of overfitting.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2017, 02:43:38 AM

;shake  :danc:

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2017, 03:45:49 AM

So, 10 generations back is what you're asking?  You want me to pick one of my grandfathers at random, or name all....how many would you have back then? 

Realizing I live in the heart of Utah, and the LDS being rather obsessed with geneology, it likely wouldn't be difficult to find out.  Hell, my parents did the dna thing a couple years back, and gave us the family tree along with the DNA results a couple years back, I just haven't bothered looking at it.  What does it prove to know your grandfaterx10 anyway?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: gustavo on August 06, 2017, 06:50:44 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 02:08:17 AM

If we repeat this cycle just 38 more times, the sun will be dead.

and for breaking me ( rascal idiot ) you have to tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather.

and dont foolishly think that game is over here. cuz he also has his 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. so you have to trace his name also.

and you have to go on unless you arive at Krishna who is Original seed giving father. who gave it first push.

and if there is one missing link than i will kick on your face. ( fraud hypocrite )
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and who is accepting an ( rascal fraud ) like you ? who is already broken. for you cannot supply anything rational at all. so you are already broken.

so again who is accepting your bogus imaginations like evolution, big bang, position of universe, life comes from matter, moon landing, this or that etc ?

since you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. but disease is you are jumping beyond him. ( just see the fun )

so who is accepting an foolish dog ( sorry first class hypocrite fraud ) like you ? who is already failure. who acepts you `1st of all ?

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: gustavo on August 06, 2017, 06:53:34 AM

Quote from: Lorizael on August 05, 2017, 02:31:57 AM

I just need the sun to last until the moon eats it in two and a half weeks.

Anywho, this thread has given me inspiration for a post about continuum subtraction, comets, explanatory power, and the dangers of overfitting.

nah nah you dont accept anything else ( i dont care for rascal fraud like you ) neither it depends on your believing or not believing. fact is fact.

so anyway who is accepting your evolution, big bang, moon landing, position of universe according to you, life comes from matter, this or that etc ?

who is accepting your nonsense imaginations ? since you cannot tell us the name of your 10th grandfathers, 10th grandfathers, grandfather. so how can you jump beyond him ? how ?

so who is accepting broken failure like you ? you are already broken cuz you cannot supply anything rational at all.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2017, 12:56:58 PM

Well, this is what I get for allowing an obvious DL.  Perma for this identity.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Green1 on August 09, 2017, 03:40:19 AM

You know, in the 1960s the Beatles had a little stint with ISKON.

They did have fun doing some jam sessions with the locals and discovering new sounds to make millions off of. But having to undergo really strict diets and weird sensory deprivation meditation for hours, and having to deal with know it all egotistical "gurus" that used the young women recruits as a personal all you can eat salad bar, most of them left.

Title: Religion as an oppressive relic of feudalism and ancestral societies
Post by: Bearu on August 10, 2017, 04:13:16 AM

The presence of religion represents a potential danger for the average person because the sole purpose of religion remains to serve as a cohesive force among the disparate groups in a social circumstances through the application of a common moral code as dictated by the singular books in the compilation. The presence of the religion tends to hinder the ability of the individual to perform the necessary critical analysis of the sole purposes among the creation of a unified social group during the period when the population would solve the problems of the world through the application of a sword or other object to kill the opposition. The current period of capitalism in the world provides an excessive material abundance for a few individuals while the majority of people exist in a state of desperate poverty, and the capitalists employ massive weapons to subvert or subdue the opposition in the world. The governments employ the religions of the past as another tool to manipulate the population into the compliance in the contemporary period, and a rational person would seek to dispose of the artifacts from the distant past in pursuit of progress for the human race.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Green1 on August 14, 2017, 06:48:36 PM

Religion's main call to fame is not it's principles or dogma. The common person only gives lip service to it nor cares. Most adherents of any religion do not follow every single point of it. Religion is access to friends and lovers, possible jobs, and services for the large majority of adherents.. It is a "check mark" in a box that lets you deal with others of that religion because you have something in common and are more likely to be trusted. If you lose that "check mark", you lose that network. You lose acceptance.

The problem is zealots, like the above poster. There are zealots for any religion imaginable. A zealot by themselves are just obsessive compulsive delusional crazies.

Good thing is most zealots are isolated people. They have no reason to become unisolated because the religion is not only their network, but the core of their very identity.

But, give them power and acceptance and the keys to networking within a huge demographic folks need/want with access to networking where you have to agree with what delusional stuff put out.... Those are the dangerous ones. The guy on the board of a large corporation and does part time on trade industry boads and non profits as well controlling who gets in someplace outside the church hierarchy. It can get very oppressive to anyone disagreeing very quick if even a few zealots take these rare positions in a community.

Of course the common folks do not say anything when this happens. If you have no problem paying lip service and you have that "check mark", good for you. You get ahead. You get the jobs, you are paying your rent, you meet people. The guy that disagrees should have pretended to get by and it's his fault. Too bad.

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Bearu on August 15, 2017, 02:04:55 AM

The outpouring of disgust resonates with  the derogatory programming of the American and European populations, and the actions represent the shame of ignorance and defeatist ideology. I intend to maintain a calm demeanor and reasonable tone. Why does the previous poster engage in argumentum ad hominem?
A mild criticism of the matter demonstrates the inability of the population to comprehend without the correct class conscience the ability of the religion to serve as a form of analgesic for the population as Karl Marx (1843) stated with the quotation on the religion serving as a means to subdue the brutal realities of capitalism through the creation of pleasant dreams (p. 1). A more contemporary example includes the soporific effects of the religion on the mind as the internet and contemporary pop culture attempts to stultify the workers. The sole purpose of the religion remains to divert the appropriate attention from the plight of the workers in the country through the inability of the population to empathize with the proletariat. The presence of the disgust demonstrates the inability of the population to recognize the importance of a movement in the acceptance of all religions while the people moves toward the realization of religion's true purpose as a university level sociology course would inform the subject on the matter, and the people need to sever the venomous ideology and noxious weeds of the bourgeois ideology because the religious movements tend to buttress the action in a demonstrable manner. The people need to dispel the matrix of religion through the struggle of the proletariat to remove the yoke of religion as a means of control.