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Title: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 19, 2016, 09:45:40 PM

Random crap...

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Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 19, 2016, 10:52:14 PM

I say hoax. Just because it has bones doesn't mean it's natural. It could be a frankenthingie.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2016, 11:36:56 PM

That's not even a good fake, looks like.

Uno, what's the term I'm trying to think of, the sewn-together fake mermaids?  My brain is trying to cough up something like "Molly Sawdust", which isn't right.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: E_T on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 AM

You have to purchase the full video to be able to see it...

X-ray, shesh, use CAT, MRI, PET and ultrasound on the thing.... and some scanning Electron Microscope as well as gene squencing...  Too much can be done too "Cheaply" these days...

Fake I am guessing....   if it was real, I Would have had the video free and started a crowd funding effort, if monies for further.research was needed...

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 02:11:56 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 19, 2016, 11:36:56 PM

That's not even a good fake, looks like.

Uno, what's the term I'm trying to think of, the sewn-together fake mermaids?  My brain is trying to cough up something like "Molly Sawdust", which isn't right.

Fiji Mermaid was the most famous. 


Anyhow:

If real, those wings would be incapable of flight.  They lack the proper bones to support musculature needed. 

I'm 90% sure that's a bat corpse someone took the wing structures that actually attach to the wrist area of the bat, and sewed them onto the back.  I know 3 artists off hand who could make a convincing sideshow gaff version of that with a dead bat. 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: gwillybj on July 20, 2016, 02:38:10 PM

Looks like a mutated mantis to me.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2016, 02:43:38 PM

Fiji Mermaid is right -ISTR something about sewing a fishtail on a monkey- but that's more of a modern label, I think, and there was at least one other common term at the time...  Jenny Hawser is popping into my head, now.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 03:00:25 PM

Quote from: gwillybj on July 20, 2016, 02:38:10 PM

Looks like a mutated mantis to me.

Only bugs with a wing structure anywhere close to that would be a stick bug species.  Even then, it would take more modification than a bat to produce such a thing. 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Bearu on July 20, 2016, 03:05:55 PM

I remain suspicious of any object that the publisher does not authenticate through a scientific test. The obvious absence of the authentication raises a series of warning klaxons for my mind.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 03:56:33 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 20, 2016, 02:43:38 PM

Fiji Mermaid is right -ISTR something about sewing a fishtail on a monkey- but that's more of a modern label, I think, and there was at least one other common term at the time...  Jenny Hawser is popping into my head, now.

Yes, the original Fiji mermaid was a monkey/fish. 

About the only other one that old is the furred trout I can think of.  Perhaps you're thinking more into the 1900s? 

You had a slew of 'mummies' "petrified men" and "giants" through the mid 1800s in dime museums... 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2016, 04:03:12 PM

I may indeed be thinking later than you.  Not an interest of mine, but I've certainly heard of the slew of 'mummies' "petrified men" and "giants" - dead notorious cowboys taken on tour, for that matter.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 04:47:48 PM

Maybe you're thinking the various angel/devil/alien (depending on where and how old) corpses made from rays and cuttlefish? 

They kicked up when more industrial scale fishing started happening . 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2016, 04:56:08 PM

Oh, I've heard of that stuff too, but thinking a lot further back than that.

ISTR reading something a long time ago -Rolling Stone article, maybe- about a giant corpse that toured in the 1800s and still exists fairly intact, someone xrayed and found goodies like actual bailing wire inside...

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 20, 2016, 05:27:39 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 20, 2016, 02:43:38 PM

Fiji Mermaid is right -ISTR something about sewing a fishtail on a monkey- but that's more of a modern label, I think, and there was at least one other common term at the time...  Jenny Hawser is popping into my head, now.

When you said "Molly Sawdust", I thought "No, it's a Jenny... something or other ... maybe the last name starts with "Mc" or "Mac" or maybe not.

So I'm pretty sure the Jenny part is right.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 06:07:07 PM

Quote from: BUncle on July 20, 2016, 04:56:08 PM

Oh, I've heard of that stuff too, but thinking a lot further back than that.

ISTR reading something a long time ago -Rolling Stone article, maybe- about a giant corpse that toured in the 1800s and still exists fairly intact, someone xrayed and found goodies like actual bailing wire inside...

Maybe McGinty/Sylvester.  IIRC he was a mixture of wire, concrete and corpse.  Soapy Smith built him found the most spectacular specimen in a mine,  and used him as an attraction for a few years, and it then was sold to a traveling circus.  The Provenance of the item in question is rather suspect after it left Smith's hands. 

He's...well, there's one that claims to be him somewhere, and it's been examined a few times.  I think the Mummies of the World exhibit picked it up on one of their tours, but it didn't come locally here. 

The only reason I know so much about THAT one is an abnormal interest in Soapy Smith. 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2016, 06:15:55 PM

That sounds right.

Rusty's got something with the Macwhatsis.

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM

Actually, you were closer with "Hawser"

http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Jenny_Haniver (http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Jenny_Haniver)

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 08:40:51 PM

Quote from: Rusty Edge on July 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM

Actually, you were closer with "Hawser"

http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Jenny_Haniver (http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Jenny_Haniver)

Quote from: Unorthodox on July 20, 2016, 04:47:48 PM

Maybe you're thinking the various angel/devil/alien (depending on where and how old) corpses made from rays and cuttlefish? 

I had no idea they went so far back. 

Title: Re: Fairy?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2016, 08:53:22 PM

There's some Scottish/pseudo-Scottish-sounding term that was current, too, sometime in the age of sailing, possibly up through Victorian, I'm pretty sure.

I've learned over the years to pay serious attention when something tries to pop out of my subconscious, so Molly sawdust is probably something garbled, too, related to the Mcsomething or not.