Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Modding => Bug/Patch Discussion => Topic started by: Yitzi on June 19, 2016, 04:19:24 PM

Title: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Yitzi on June 19, 2016, 04:19:24 PM

I can see several possibilities for what should happen (what currently happens, if playing with the patch that got the ability working in the first place, is that they revolt to the Drones), and I'm not sure which one to go with, so I'm taking a poll.  The three possibilities, as I see it, are:

1. No effect; the Drones only benefit when other factions mistreat their workers.
2. There is a 75% chance that the base simply doesn't revolt and nothing happens (no message).
3. There is a 75% chance that the base doesn't revolt, and you get a special message telling you what happened.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Lord Avalon on June 19, 2016, 10:37:05 PM

Despite the Free Drones' ability to have an own base revolt to self, I wonder if it might be better for play balance to not allow that? (I.e., undecided.)

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Yitzi on June 20, 2016, 04:27:15 PM

Quote from: Lord Avalon on June 19, 2016, 10:37:05 PM

Despite the Free Drones' ability to have an own base revolt to self, I wonder if it might be better for play balance to not allow that?

Keep in mind that it wouldn't help them with regard to the production loss and destroyed facilities from riots, only reduce the danger of losing the base to another faction.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Lord Avalon on June 20, 2016, 06:34:16 PM

Quote from: Yitzi on June 20, 2016, 04:27:15 PM

Keep in mind that it wouldn't help them with regard to the production loss and destroyed facilities from riots, only reduce the danger of losing the base to another faction.

Well, my point was that the Drones are a pretty powerful faction, so do they need another benefit, even if it's small (or the way their special "should" work)?

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Yitzi on June 27, 2016, 12:07:02 AM

Quote from: Lord Avalon on June 20, 2016, 06:34:16 PM

Quote from: Yitzi on June 20, 2016, 04:27:15 PM

Keep in mind that it wouldn't help them with regard to the production loss and destroyed facilities from riots, only reduce the danger of losing the base to another faction.

Well, my point was that the Drones are a pretty powerful faction, so do they need another benefit, even if it's small (or the way their special "should" work)?

If not, then the ability can be removed in the faction editor, as the same argument could be applied to the effect on other factions' revolting bases as well.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: BFG on July 25, 2016, 04:24:13 PM

Honestly, I would leave it unchanged.  In my mind, the Drones of the Free Drones faction are the NON-drones of other factions.  So if they revolt, it's because they want to join another faction and be "more productive".

At least, that's how I've rationalized it :)

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: hilton on July 26, 2016, 04:09:25 AM

Have the city taken over by the barbarian AI.

Oh wait, wrong game.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: BFG on July 26, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

Heh, a mindworms-infested city WOULD be interesting...rather than having the mindworms destroy the city.  But I digress.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 26, 2016, 06:46:12 PM

There are several custom factions somewhat along those lines, you know - a scenario like that would be totally doable.

Title: Re: How should the Drones' Revolt ability work when it's the Drones' base revolting?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 26, 2016, 07:35:52 PM

BTW - OT, but praise to Yitzi for punctuating the thread title correctly - decidedly not everyone seems to know that rule, and it's a pet peeve of mine.  ;b;