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Title: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 27, 2016, 01:42:36 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/why-the-united-states-is-vulnerable-to-spread-of-zika-virus/2016/01/26/a8c6a9b4-c440-11e5-8965-0607e0e265ce_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/why-the-united-states-is-vulnerable-to-spread-of-zika-virus/2016/01/26/a8c6a9b4-c440-11e5-8965-0607e0e265ce_story.html)

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With the Zika virus now circulating in two dozen countries and territories across the Americas, the mosquito-borne pathogen seems destined to reach the United States and likely sooner rather than later.

What is far less certain, say public health and infectious disease experts, is Zika’s potential reach and impact here. The South is seen as especially vulnerable because of its warm, humid climate and pockets of poverty where more people live without air-conditioning or proper window screens. Plus, the region is already home to mosquitoes that can transmit the virus.

Some models estimate as many as 200 million people live in areas that might be conducive to the spread of Zika during summer months — including along the East and West coasts and much of the Midwest. That makes for a huge target as researchers scramble to determine exactly how the virus manifests itself in the human body, who is particularly at risk, and why.

Their urgency comes amid increasing reports from Brazil, the current epicenter of Zika, of thousands of newborns with a rare condition involving brain damage. Doctors there have also seen a surge in another rare syndrome known as Guillain-Barré, which can lead to paralysis. With both, a link to Zika is suspected.

Already, Brazil, Colombia, El Salvador and Jamaica have urged women to postpone pregnancy. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has an ever-expanding advisory urging U.S. women who are pregnant from traveling to those 24 countries and territories in the Caribbean and Central and South America that have local transmission.




President Obama received a briefing Tuesday about the situation from his health and national security teams, including Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell, CDC Director Thomas Frieden and Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

[CDC adds U.S. Virgin islands and Dominican Republic to travel advisory] 

A day earlier, the World Health Organization’s director-general warned that the disease’s spread is “explosive.”Margaret Chan also described the circumstantial evidence connecting Zika to cases of microcephaly, in which a baby’s head and brain are abnormally small, as “extremely worrisome.”




So far, the experts are divided about what lies ahead for the United States. More than a dozen cases of the virus have been confirmed to date, including two announced Tuesday by Arkansas and Virginia state health officials. In each, the person was believed to have been infected while out of the country.

Fauci is downplaying the potential for a significant eruption of Zika here. He notes that dengue and chikungunya, diseases transmitted by the same kinds of mosquitoes, are widespread in Latin America. But their foothold in the United States has been well controlled, with only small clusters of cases.

“It is unlikely that we will have a major outbreak of Zika in this country,” Fauci said.

Yet Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, fears the opposite is true. He recalls spending much of 2014 insisting that the Ebola outbreak would not become a significant problem in the United States. He gives no such assurance now.




“I think we’re in for real trouble in the United States,” he said, considering how swiftly Zika can spread. He focuses on conditions throughout the Gulf Coast, where stagnant water sources — in uncollected garbage, discarded tires, untended bird baths — can be ideal breeding grounds for mosquitos much of the year.

“You’ve got to assume the worst-case scenario,” Hotez said.

[As Zika fear spreads, Brazilian moms opt for mosquito-resistant baby clothing]

Aedes albopictus, the Asian tiger mosquito, which can transmit the virus, is present from Florida to Connecticut and as far west as Illinois, said Laura Harrington, chair of Cornell University’s entomology department. It bites people as well as animals. A second species, Aedes aegypti, the yellow-fever mosquito, has a more limited geographic footprint and only bites people. But it is the primary “vector” for Zika’s transmission. 

Taken together, “there are many parts of the United States that are vulnerable because of where the mosquito populations are,” Harrington said.




The experts acknowledge that any projections are hampered by their lack of knowledge about the disease. It takes between 10 to 11 days for a mosquito to become fully infected to pass on the virus, according to Nikos Vasilakis, an arbovirologist at University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, where researchers are studying Zika in collaboration with scientists at Yale’s School of Public Health and in Brazil. They don’t yet know what the risk is for pregnant women who are bitten by an infected mosquito and contract the virus — much less what the risk is for their fetus.

The CDC has issued guidelines for both pregnant women and newborns. For example, it recommends testing for the virus when babies have microcephaly and their mothers traveled to or lived in Zika-virus regions while pregnant. On Tuesday, agency officials held a telebriefing with clinicians nationwide to go over the guidelines as part of increased vigilance and public education.

 In the Brazilian cases, most of the exposure to Zika appears to have been during the first trimester of pregnancy. But CDC officials have said there is also some evidence that a fetus can be in danger into the second trimester.

There is no drug to treat Zika or vaccine to prevent it, although Fauci said researchers are working on the latter. The most common symptoms of infection are fever, rash, joint pain and red, itchy eyes. Symptoms are usually mild and last several days to a week.



 

What you need to know about the Zika virus
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Authorities have confirmed a dozen cases of Zika virus in the United States. Here's what you need to know. (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

One of the biggest problems in researching the possible link between Zika and cases of birth defects has to do with the widespread presence of dengue disease in the countries with high Zika infection, said Lyle Petersen, director of CDC’s vector-borne disease division. Humans produce antibodies in response to both viruses, but current tests cannot really differentiate between them.

“In people with previous dengue exposure, there’s no test to be able to sort that out,” Petersen explained.




Major past outbreaks of Zika occurred in the Pacific islands among small populations, and uncommon kinds of birth defects were not noticed right away. After Brazil began reporting increased prevalence of microcephaly last October, authorities in French Polynesia went back and analyzed their 2013-2014 Zika outbreak involving more than 30,000 people. They found an increase in microcephaly cases and of Guillain-Barré syndrome.

Brazil has said it wants to expand an experiment using genetically modified mosquitoes produced by a British company called Oxitec. The company says they can be effective at controlling pest populations: Altered male mosquitoes are released into the wild to mate with females. The offspring never reach adulthood, blocking the next generation from carrying diseases like dengue, chikungunya and Zika virus.

Oxitec says that trials involving its mosquitoes in Brazil, Panama and the Cayman Islands “all resulted in a greater than 90 percent suppression” of the wild Aedes aegypti  population. This month, the company announced that Piracicaba, a city in the Brazilian state of Sao Paulo, would expand its effort to eradicate disease-carrying mosquitos.

But it’s unlikely that genetically engineered mosquitoes will be buzzing around the United States anytime soon.

Beth Ranson, a spokeswoman for the Florida Keys Mosquito Control District, which has partnered with Oxitec for a proposed trial, said that before any altered bugs could be released there, the Food and Drug Administration must first complete an environment assessment of the project. Its findings must then be opened to public comment. Even once finalized, a local board would need to approve the trial — over the expected opposition of some Keys residents.

In the meantime, Ranson said, local inspectors are pushing forward with more conventional methods such as treating and eliminating breeding areas for mosquitoes.




“We’ve always been aggressive . . . [but] we’re stepping up the aggressiveness,” she said. “We don’t want dengue, chikungunya or Zika here – we don’t want any of it.”

Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 27, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
AFAIK, the zika virus could be spread by the entire Aedes family of mosquitos, I think the above article is incorrect in targeting 2 specific species. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 27, 2016, 06:16:07 PM
I was going to predict that this will be a repeat of West Nile Virus. The disease will spread much faster than predicted, but will have less of an impact.


Contagious birth defects are scarey.

You know what else is scarey? Guiome Barre Syndrome. My uncle had it years ago. So did my wife's uncle. This was before we knew each other. Some people call it "French Polio" Fortunately, they both survived, but it's a scarey, helpless feeling, knowing somebody's life is hanging by a thread, and there is very little to be done about it.

Basically it is an allergic reaction to a virus. The body attacks it's own nervous system. There is a progressive paralysis beginning at the extremities. If and when it reaches the heart, you die. If it stops before that, there is a long, slow recovery.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20025832 (http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20025832)
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 27, 2016, 07:29:27 PM
My travel habits and mosquitos' preference for me has me concerned. I voted as such.

Kite patches aren't on the market yet. What do you recommend as mosquito protection, Uno?
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 27, 2016, 08:13:26 PM
Well, I'm unsure. 

Couple interesting tidbits on Zika and Aedes Aegyptica. 

Zika originated in Aedes Aegyptica in Brazil, and has spread to other Aedes mosquitos, including the arboreal ones I would normally recommend as natural competitors and even predators.  While these don't spread it to humans, they do spread the virus among other mosquitoes. 

It's arrival is relatively shortly after widespread release of genetically modified Aedes Aegyptica mosquitos in Brazil (which is serving as a test bed) that were engineered so that females that mated with the genetically modified males would produce non-viable offspring. 

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECCESSARILY A CORRELATION.  But it's a HELL of a coincidence. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 27, 2016, 08:38:54 PM
Interesting.

Even if there is no correlation between the two, it will take a long time to prove it. There will be a lot of squak about any genetically modified insect being released, regardless.

Bottom line, no relief on that front in the USA any time soon.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 27, 2016, 10:37:17 PM
There will be a lot of squak about any genetically modified insect being released, regardless.

I highly doubt you'll hear much about it to be honest, unless there proves to be a correlation.  It's just rather convenient a mosquito that was engineered to cause birth defects' species is now causing birth defects in non-target species.  The genetic mod for the mosquitoes is essentially the lysine contingency from Jurassic Park.  Without a regular feeding of whatever the denied critical piece is, the offspring cannot develop normally and thus die at the pupa stage.  Zika is closely related to West Nile and Dengu Fever, did it somehow evolve inside these engineered insects, I cannot even guess at.  It's just rather curious. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 28, 2016, 07:10:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/health/what-is-zika-virus.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/health/what-is-zika-virus.html?_r=0)

Well, I foresee myself being disqualified as a blood donor. Without a blood test, they will work from a country list and a time period, like they did with AIDS and Mad Cow.

Puerto Rico, The US Virgin Islands and basically the Lesser Antilles are already on a don't go list for pregnant women.

Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 29, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
Heh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/01/29/heres-how-gm-mosquitos-with-self-destruct-genes-could-save-us-from-zika-virus/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/01/29/heres-how-gm-mosquitos-with-self-destruct-genes-could-save-us-from-zika-virus/)

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Brazil is latching onto a novel, if controversial, approach to fight the spread Zika virus: genetically modified mosquitoes.

Zika virus is transmitted to humans primarily through the bite of an infected Aedes species, such as Aedes aegypti, the yellow fever mosquito.

No vaccine or treatment exists to combat the infection, which public health officials are worried may be linked to a brain defect in infants and a rare neurological syndrome that could cause paralysis in adults. The World Health Organization has expressed alarm at the explosive spread of the virus in the Americas in recent months and says as many as 3 to 4 million people could become infected.

Releasing even more of these insects into the wild seems like the last thing a Zika-stricken country needs, but Brazil’s National Biosafety Committee recently approved multiple releases of genetically modified Aedes aegypti throughout the country. Essentially, the plan is to turn their own species against them.

 [WHO: Zika virus could explosively spread, level of alarm extremely high] 

Created by Britain-based Oxitec, a spin-off company from Oxford University that is a subsidiary of Intrexon Corp., these mosquitoes contain a self-destruct mechanism within their DNA in the form of an inserted gene. This gene produces a protein called tetracycline repressible activator variant (tTAV), which ties up the cell's machinery and prevents the expression of other genes key to survival. As a result, the insect dies before it reaches adulthood.

But if reared on a diet with a special antidote — the antibiotic tetracycline, which binds and inactivates tTAV — the self-destruct mechanism will never switch on.

 [Zika virus FAQ: What is it, and what are the risks as it spreads?] 

Oxitec feeds its genetically modified mosquitoes tetracycline so they can survive and reproduce in the lab. For pest control purposes, mature males carrying the self-destruct gene are gathered up and released into the wild to mate with females. Offspring who inherit the gene will die without the tetracycline antidote, causing the mosquito population to drop drastically — and hopefully with it, the threat of disease.




“We've trialed this technology in the Cayman Islands, in Brazil and in Panama through four different trials, and we have shown up to 99 percent control of the mosquito population,” said Derric Nimmo, Product Development Manager at Oxitec, in a company video. In April, Oxitec started releasing its so-called “self-limiting” mosquitoes in Piracicaba, a city in the Campinas region of São Paulo state, and reported an 82 percent reduction in wild larvae by the end of the calendar year.

Because Aedes aegypti is considered the primary vector for dengue, Chikungunya and Zika viruses, the company has focused extensively on this species for public health applications. For surveillance purposes, its mosquito products also contain a heritable, fluorescent marker to differentiate between altered insects and wild ones. Monitoring the ratio of genetically modified vs. wild mosquitoes in traps after a release can help gauge whether more product is needed to further suppress the pest population.

This genetic approach and others — for instance, those that render insects infertile or disease-resistant — represent a new spin on the classical Sterile Insect Technique (SIT). During the 1930s and 1940s, the idea of SIT was conceived as a method of “birth control” for unwanted insect species. Males would be rendered sterile by exposing them to massive amounts of radiation, then released to mate with females. SIT was used to eradicate the screwworm, a deadly parasite of livestock, from the United States in the 1950s, and to tame pink bollworm moth populations in California's cotton fields since 1967.

 [CDC issues interim Zika guidelines for testing infants] 

Oxitec's scientists have also created self-limiting versions of common agricultural pests in the hopes of minimizing crop losses. One example is the diamondback moth, an insecticide-resistant nuisance that feeds exclusively on brassicas, such as broccoli and cabbage. Oxitec and Cornell University are planning field tests to be conducted in the summer in upstate New York, which have been granted approval by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.




One big question is whether manipulating the ecosystem in this way will have unintended, negative consequences.

Oxitec has come under criticism from various environmental groups that remain concerned about the possible effects of releasing a new strain of organism into the wild. For instance, a drastic drop in mosquito population could lead to harmful insects or other animals multiplying uncontrollably.

Supporters of genetically modified insects say self-limiting species target only one species, can still be eaten safely by predators, and are more effective/safe than insecticides. Also, the altered males and their offspring die off quickly due to the tTAV gene.

“In that sense, we're only removing Aedes aegypti and nothing else from the environment,” Nimmo said. “It's pinpoint accuracy. It's going in with a scalpel and taking away Aedes aegypti, leaving everything untouched.”







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Authorities have confirmed a dozen cases of Zika virus in the United States. Here's what you need to know. (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 30, 2016, 05:19:28 AM
Well, I'm unsure. 

Couple interesting tidbits on Zika and Aedes Aegyptica. 

Zika originated in Aedes Aegyptica in Brazil, and has spread to other Aedes mosquitos, including the arboreal ones I would normally recommend as natural competitors and even predators.  While these don't spread it to humans, they do spread the virus among other mosquitoes. 

It's arrival is relatively shortly after widespread release of genetically modified Aedes Aegyptica mosquitos in Brazil (which is serving as a test bed) that were engineered so that females that mated with the genetically modified males would produce non-viable offspring. 

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECCESSARILY A CORRELATION.  But it's a HELL of a coincidence.

What exactly are the mosquito mechanics, here?

Infection- Is it passed from feeding on the same plant or animal host?

Are there other  methods of viral transmission, such as sexual contact among mosquitos ?

Predation- Do some mosquito actually suck the blood of other species of mosquito?  Can the host survive this?
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 30, 2016, 07:51:50 PM
Jamaica reports its first case of Zika virus
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/30/jamaica-reports-first-case-zika-virus/79563246/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/30/jamaica-reports-first-case-zika-virus/79563246/)


"Jamaican health officials confirmed the Caribbean nation's first case of the Zika virus Saturday in a 4-year-old child who recently returned from a trip to Texas.

The child, who has now recovered, began showing symptoms Jan. 17 after visiting the U.S. state, Jamaica's Ministry of Health said in a statement.

It's unclear whether the child picked up the virus in Jamaica or Texas."

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Well, if it's in Mexico, it would spread to Texas more easily than to Jamaica. But then again, Jamaica is only 2 or 3 days from Mexico by cruise ship, and less to the from the Lesser Antilles.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 31, 2016, 01:34:44 AM
Well, I'm unsure. 

Couple interesting tidbits on Zika and Aedes Aegyptica. 

Zika originated in Aedes Aegyptica in Brazil, and has spread to other Aedes mosquitos, including the arboreal ones I would normally recommend as natural competitors and even predators.  While these don't spread it to humans, they do spread the virus among other mosquitoes. 

It's arrival is relatively shortly after widespread release of genetically modified Aedes Aegyptica mosquitos in Brazil (which is serving as a test bed) that were engineered so that females that mated with the genetically modified males would produce non-viable offspring. 

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECCESSARILY A CORRELATION.  But it's a HELL of a coincidence.

What exactly are the mosquito mechanics, here?

Infection- Is it passed from feeding on the same plant or animal host?

I'm not hugely up to speed on the viral shedding of the Dengu Fever and relatives.  However, mosquitoes are all aquatic as larva, I'm going to guess at the virus spreading there.  Though, female feeding on infected host and passing to the young is possible as well. 

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Are there other  methods of viral transmission, such as sexual contact among mosquitos ?

Again, that's a virus question, not a mosquito one. 

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Predation- Do some mosquito actually suck the blood of other species of mosquito?  Can the host survive this?

Arboreal mosquitoes (eat nectar as adults) tend to be predators at the larval stage.  (thus Uno's theory of mosquito control is to release arboreal ones)

Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Valka on February 01, 2016, 06:07:00 AM
We've got a decent mosquito-killing program here, one that targets the larvae and isn't as hard on the rest of the environment.

Every year people are warned what to wear/not to wear, try to avoid being active in the dawn/twilight hours (while simultaneously not being active during the hottest hours of the day), don't walk through tall grass, don't leave water standing around in bird baths, uncovered rain barrels, or tires, and numerous other ways to avoid being bitten.

My way is to basically avoid being outdoors in summer as much as possible. Mosquitoes love me, the bites drive me nuts, and as I get older my immune system tends to go haywire in weird ways. I don't dare get bitten or stung by insects.

In addition to vaccines, a stronger push for mosquito nets would help considerably in those southern countries.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on February 01, 2016, 01:41:09 PM
We've got a decent mosquito-killing program here, one that targets the larvae and isn't as hard on the rest of the environment.

2 most common methods:

seeding standing water with the same bacteria that is used to make genetically modified corn. (recently some resistance has been found to this thanks to the wholesale useage lately, too)
spraying of Neonicotinoids, which there is growing evidence of it harming the environment, not just the bees, but birds as well. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 02, 2016, 05:59:55 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks of Flash Gordon almost every time he reads the word "arboreal" , or for that matter, the nickname "Mongo" ?
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Valka on February 02, 2016, 06:27:34 AM
The word that comes to mind when I see "arboreal" is "trees."
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on February 02, 2016, 01:39:56 PM
The word that comes to mind when I see "arboreal" is "trees."

Yep.  They primarily live in trees as an adult. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 02, 2016, 11:16:40 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/health/zika-virus-transmitted-through-sexual-contact-in-210356877.html (https://www.yahoo.com/health/zika-virus-transmitted-through-sexual-contact-in-210356877.html)

"A person in Dallas County, Texas, has contracted the Zika virus through sexual contact with an infected person who had visited a country where an outbreak has been identified. Local health officials confirmed via the Dallas County Health and Human Services Twitter account, writing “Dallas County’s 1st case of #Zika thru sex was acquired from someone who traveled to Venezuela, confirmed case did not travel.”


Several cases of Zika virus had been confirmed across the United States, but only among people who were believed to have contracted the virus while traveling abroad in countries with active Zika virus outbreaks. The case in Dallas is the first time that experts believe a person with Zika symptoms contracted the virus within the United States."


Well, we now have a confirmed case of sexual transmission between humans in Texas. So we got a new vector. That's gonna complicate stuff.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 30, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
Mosquito transmitted cases in south Florida.

Florida can no longer contribute to the blood supply. Most likely people will be banned from donating for 4 weeks after visiting it, too.  It's one of our most populous states.

So, if you can donate blood, please do.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 30, 2016, 11:05:00 PM
I dunno, man - I was in college during the AIDS scare and gave every time there was a blood mobile around and I was free - and I'm not stretching when I speculate the Zika screening is both annoying and insulting.  The pain of the needles and getting syphoned was nothing compared to the red tape and insults, getting worse every year...
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 31, 2016, 04:49:31 AM
I'm used to it because I've been donating it all of my life. I never needed a transfusion, but living in a farming and lumbering community- accidents happen and there's never a convenient time to go to the emergency room, so we made it appoint to make time to donate, there was no telling when we might be the ones in need.

There are always more particular questions when they are trying to get a handle on a new peril. First it was AIDS, then it was mad cow, for a while it was steroids, and now it's Zika. Well, they have simply put a 4 week moratorium on travel to affected areas.

Millenials are the largest demographic group, but the trouble with them is there's a 6 month moratorium after getting a tattoo or piercing.

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So, Zika is now in the USA. It can be spread both sexually and by multiple species of mosquito. There are no tests or vaccines. It cause brain damage to the unborn, and progressive paralysis to a % of healthy adults. Because of that, they have to be careful with the blood supply. So far, Puerto Rico and Florida are contaminated and unable to supply their own blood. Judging by the speed of the spread of West Nile years ago, I suspect another Gulf Coast state will be scratched from donation eligibility before frost. It it's Texas, that's a serious problem for anybody that needs a transfusion- E.R. patients, people who need heart surgery, etc.

Anyway, if you know some people that used to donate, or some church people, please spread the word.

I'm going search to see if there's any word on tests and vaccines.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 31, 2016, 05:32:10 AM
8.
 How do I know if I’ve been infected? Is there a test?
It’s often a silent infection and hard to diagnose.


Only one of five infected people develop symptoms. There is currently no rapid test that can be done in a doctor’s office; tests must be sent to sophisticated laboratories, which delays diagnosis.

The surest way to detect the virus itself is with a blood or urine sample gathered in the first two weeks or less after symptoms appear. Antibody tests can be done later but, because the disease is closely related to dengue and yellow fever, false positives and false negatives may occur, especially in areas where those diseases circulate. More complex “neutralization assay testing” can lower the false-positive rate, but not eliminate it.

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Vaccines are another matter. One vaccine is ready for human testing. A universal vaccine "could take years"

But there has been a breakthrough-

"A vaccine for Zika could be developed based on previous work to successfully develop Yellow fever, Japanese encephalitis, and dengue vaccines, de Silva said. Currently, there are three phase-three clinical trials for a dengue vaccine and UNC is collaborating with vaccine developers to understand data from these trials. "

More stuff to say that immunity to dengue fever could work against zika, but  there are of course priorities in vaccinations once something is available-

women of child-bearing age
their partners
the elderly ( who are most likely to get Guiome Barre syndrome )
others
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Spacy on August 01, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
Cannot donate blood, so not that big of a deal to me.  Nor, do I plan on having any kids. 

So, no big deal. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 01, 2016, 03:50:43 PM
I feel much more seriously threatened, now.

Before, it was just a terrible thing on the news, but if that crap makes it this far north, I've had a mosquito problem already since it got warm, and I don't see any way shy of never going outside to be safe, if the local mosquitos had the zika.  I'm kinda married to continuing the Kat Frend Progect -and I get saddled with all the burger grilling- so that's a real potential problem...

It's not like my head works all that smoothly already; I can't afford having the top fall off.  More seriously, my health is not what it used to be, and I don't need any optional problems.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 01, 2016, 11:43:20 PM
My recent concern has been the blood supply. When you start putting the most populous states on the deferred donors list, that spells critical shortages, which should be everyone's concern.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 01, 2016, 11:57:44 PM
They just showed a projection map on ABC that had it reaching Virginia - no idea when.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Spacy on August 02, 2016, 12:01:03 AM
It is based off the species of mosquito that caries the virus.  How fast can a mosquito fly?  Also, how does the virus actually spread?  If a person has the virus and gets bitten by a skeeter, and the skeeter bites someone else the next day, does that next person get it?  No idea, but those are the two main issues at work here.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Valka on August 02, 2016, 02:54:45 PM
Mosquitoes are one reason why I don't go outside much in summer. Except that for us here, it's not Zika that people worry about. It's West Nile virus. It's been confirmed to have made it as far as Alberta several years ago, and therefore I do everything possible to avoid mosquitoes.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2016, 03:06:05 PM
There's a confirmed case of non-sexual non-travel transmission in Utah.  An elderly man (contracted from traveling) passed it to his grandson (we don't know how) from his deathbed.  They don't THINK it was mosquitoes either as the locals shouldn't be able to transmit.   Which, if there's now a new vector, this could get crazy scary. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
http://www.pctonline.com/article/utah-zika-case-stumps-researchers/ (http://www.pctonline.com/article/utah-zika-case-stumps-researchers/)

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Utah Zika Case Stumps Researchers

A caregiver wasn't exposed to Zika in a way that would transmit the virus, at least from what's currently known about Zika, LiveScience reports.

July 22, 2016


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In a puzzling case, a person in Utah became infected with the Zika virus, but health officials can't figure out how the person contracted it, Live Science reports.

The infected person was a caregiver for an elderly man who had Zika. But the case is mysterious: As far as health officials can tell, the caregiver wasn't exposed to Zika in a way that would transmit the virus, at least from what's currently known about Zika. So far, the only way Zika was thought to spread from person to person is through sexual contact, and the caregiver did not have sexual contact with anyone who had Zika.

 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Valka on August 02, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
All it took for an acquaintance's parents to die from AIDS was for her father to receive tainted blood in a transfusion and her mother to get it from a careless mistake when caring for him at home. Both had open cuts, and that's all it took. It wasn't sexual contact; these were two elderly people, and back then Canada's blood services were extremely lax in testing for AIDS.

There was quite a class-action lawsuit.

I suppose they've considered that there might be similar possibilities for Zika. At least I hope so.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
Last I heard they were checking that possibility.  It's kinda got the hush hush treatment to avoid a local panic.  If I didn't listen to NPR, I probably wouldn't have known, it's not being covered locally. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: E_T on August 16, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
Cannot donate blood, so not that big of a deal to me.  Nor, do I plan on having any kids. 

So, no big deal.
I beleave that you can get with your local Blood Bank and/or hospitol and set up a personal bank for you own use, but for no others.  You would have to replenish on a regular basis, as the blood does go bad, even refrigerated, but tha would also increase your marrow's capaciy to replenish, within the body any large blood losses, over time.  Having a personalized supply would allow for you to still contribute in case of some urgent need but would also save any additional units (that you would have used) for someone else...
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2016, 06:47:12 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/08/18/zika-can-infect-adult-brain-cells-not-just-fetal-cells/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/08/18/zika-can-infect-adult-brain-cells-not-just-fetal-cells/)

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The more researchers learn about the Zika virus, the worse it seems.

A growing body of research has established that the virus can cause severe birth defects — most notably microcephaly, a condition characterized by an abnormally small head and often incomplete brain development. The virus also has been linked to cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome in adults, a rare autoimmune disorder that can result in paralysis and even death.

Now, in a study in mice, researchers have found evidence that suggests adult brain cells critical to learning and memory also might be susceptible to the Zika virus.

"This was kind of a surprise," Joseph Gleeson, a professor at Rockefeller University and one of the co-authors of the study published Thursday in the journal Cell Stem Cell, said in an interview. "We think of Zika health concerns being limited mostly to pregnant women."

 [For Zika-infected pregnancies, microcephaly risk may be as high as 13 percent] 

In a developing fetus, the brain is made primarily of "neural progenitor" cells, a type of stem cell. Researchers believe these cells are especially susceptible to infection by the Zika virus, which can hinder their development and disrupt brain growth. Most adult neurons are believed to be resistant to Zika, which could explain why adults seem less at risk from the virus's most devastating effects.

But some neural progenitor cells remain in adults, where they replenish the brain's neurons over the course of a lifetime. These pockets of stem cells are vital for learning and memory. Gleeson and his colleagues suspected that if Zika can infect fetal neural progenitor cells, the virus might have the same ability to infect adult neural progenitor cells. That's precisely what they found.

"We asked whether [these cells] were vulnerable to Zika in the same way the fetal brain is," Glesson said. "The answer is definitely yes."

Gleeson is the first to admit that the findings represent only an initial step in discovering whether Zika can endanger adult human brain cells. For starters, the study was conducted only in mice, and only at a single point in time. More research will be necessary to see whether the results of the mouse model translates to humans, and whether the damage to adult brain cells can cause long-term neurological damage or affect behavior.




But the initial findings suggest that the Zika virus, which has spread to the United States and more than 60 other countries over the past year, may not be as innocuous as it seems for adults, most of whom never realize they have been infected. Researchers found that infected mice had more cell death in their brains and reduced generation of new neurons, which is key to learning and memory. The possible consequences of damaged neural progenitor cells in humans would include cognitive problems and a higher likelihood for conditions such as depression and Alzheimer’s disease.

 [Obama administration to shift $81 million to fight Zika] 

“Zika can clearly enter the brain of adults and can wreak havoc,” Sujan Shresta, another study co-author and a professor at the La Jolla Institute of Allergy and Immunology, said in a statement. “But it’s a complex disease — it’s catastrophic for early brain development, yet the majority of adults who are infected with Zika rarely show detectable symptoms. Its effect on the adult brain may be more subtle, and now we know what to look for.”

William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, agreed Thursday that the findings are preliminary. But he also called it troubling.

"Here's the deal — the more we've learned about the Zika virus, the nastier it is," said Schaffner, who was not involved in the study. He said scientists have had concerns all along about Zika's ability to damage the brain, but until now the worries have focused mostly on the developing brain. "This mouse study will increase our anxiety. ... It's an additional potential way that this virus can cause human illness."

That's a possibility that demands further examination, he said, given the hundreds of thousands of people already infected by Zika — a number that continues to grow daily.

"Our attention, quite understandably, has been devoted to pregnant women and newborns, and preventing those infections," Schaffner said. "This mouse study will tell investigators that, in addition to pregnant women, you have to establish some studies in older children and adults as well."


Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2016, 06:53:14 PM
http://www.naturalnews.com/054940_Zika_genetically_modified_mosquitoes.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/054940_Zika_genetically_modified_mosquitoes.html)

Grain of salt and all for that source. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Well, I'm unsure. 

Couple interesting tidbits on Zika and Aedes Aegyptica. 

Zika originated in Aedes Aegyptica in Brazil, and has spread to other Aedes mosquitos, including the arboreal ones I would normally recommend as natural competitors and even predators.  While these don't spread it to humans, they do spread the virus among other mosquitoes. 

It's arrival is relatively shortly after widespread release of genetically modified Aedes Aegyptica mosquitos in Brazil (which is serving as a test bed) that were engineered so that females that mated with the genetically modified males would produce non-viable offspring. 

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECCESSARILY A CORRELATION.  But it's a HELL of a coincidence. 

I can't find the source, but I've read there cannot be a correlation. 

Something about the Zika virus being a type that is impossible to pick up genes from it's host.  It can leave some behind, but couldn't pick up new ones from the GM mosquitoes. 

The other point against, that the release of mosquitoes was 100 miles from the true epicenter of the Zika thing, I don't buy into.  Releases started in 2012, and 8% of the offspring of a GM mosquito STILL live, so 4 years is enough time for you don't know where the hell the GM genes have gone to by now. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Bearu on August 20, 2016, 11:16:53 PM
The presence of the Zika virus in the general population remains a point of major concern because the number of deformed babies with Intelligence disabilities could increase in a significant manner over the next few years.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2016, 11:40:32 PM
The presence of the Zika virus in the general population remains a point of major concern because the number of deformed babies with Intelligence disabilities could increase in a significant manner over the next few years.

There's some recent evidence there more to the defects than just zika. 
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Bearu on August 20, 2016, 11:45:01 PM
The presence of microcephaly could have a number of different correlations, but I suppose the government would not release the real reason that a number of people have the condition at an above average rate.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on August 22, 2016, 02:46:46 AM
It's more the rate is much higher among Zika patients in Brazil than outside Brazil.  There's something else going on in Brazil with the birth defects.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 06, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
Well, the presence in 3 Florida Counties and all of the West Indies is restricting my blood donation schedule.
Fortunately, summer is over and it's not spreading that I've heard of by mosquito. West Nile spread faster than predictions due to bird vectors. Zika has the STD vector. We shall see.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on November 18, 2016, 08:48:53 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/11/18/who-no-longer-considers-zika-a-global-health-emergency-2/?tid=sm_tw (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/11/18/who-no-longer-considers-zika-a-global-health-emergency-2/?tid=sm_tw)

The World Health Organization has upgraded Zika from an "global heaith emergency " to a " critical and long term priority" requiring a sustained and dedicated program. They succeeded in proving cause and effect with microcephaly, but they were not able to contain Zika.  Zika virus is now in more than 50 countries.
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on November 18, 2016, 09:11:09 PM
Florida is now releasing the genetically modified mosquitoes in the hopes of stopping Zika...
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2016, 06:03:31 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/health/zika-microcephaly-babies.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/health/zika-microcephaly-babies.html?_r=0)

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It is the news that doctors and families in the heart of Zika territory had feared: Some babies not born with the unusually small heads that are the most severe hallmark of brain damage as a result of the virus have developed the condition, called microcephaly, as they have grown older.

The findings were reported in a study of 13 babies in Brazil that was published Tuesday in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. At birth, none of the babies had heads small enough to receive a diagnosis of microcephaly, but months later, 11 of them did.

For most of those babies, brain scans soon after birth showed significant abnormalities, and researchers found that as the babies aged, their brains did not grow or develop enough for their age and body size. The new study echoes another published this fall, in which three babies were found to have microcephaly later in their first year.

As they closed in on their first birthdays, many of the babies also had some of the other developmental and medical problems caused by Zika infection, a range of disabilities now being called congenital Zika syndrome. The impairments resemble characteristics of cerebral palsy and include epileptic seizures, muscle and joint problems and difficulties swallowing food.

“There are some areas of great deficiency in the babies,” said Dr. Cynthia Moore, the director of the division of congenital and developmental disorders for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and an author of the new study. “They certainly are going to have a lot of impairment.”

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Dr. Deborah Levine, a professor of radiology at Harvard Medical School who has studied Zika but was not involved in either study, said there would most likely be other waves of children whose brains were affected by the Zika infection, but not severely enough to be noticed in their first year.

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“A lot of the developmental abnormalities we’re not going to see until later,” she said. “There’s going to be another group seen later in childhood, I’m afraid, and another group probably when they reach school age.”

In the new study, doctors at two clinics in the northeastern Brazilian states of Pernambuco and Ceará described the cases of 13 infants who had tested positive for the Zika virus. In 11 of the babies, brain scans taken days or weeks after birth showed significant neurological damage, including improperly formed brain areas, excess fluid in some places and abnormal calcium deposits, or calcification, which probably resulted from brain cell death. But the size of their heads, though small, was not small enough to be considered microcephaly. So doctors monitored their progress as they grew.

Dr. Vanessa van der Linden, another author of the study and a neuropediatrician at the Association for Assistance of Disabled Children in Recife, Brazil, where most of the babies in the study are patients, said the type of brain damage in the babies who later developed microcephaly “presented the same pattern, but less severe” than those with it at birth.

The babies in the study published this fall also appeared to have a pattern of similar, but less severe, brain damage, said Dr. Antonio Augusto Moura da Silva, of the Federal University of Maranhão and an author of that study, which was published in Emerging Infectious Diseases. He and his colleagues studied 48 babies with brain abnormalities in the northeastern state of Maranhão, identified six babies who did not have microcephaly at birth, and found that three of them later developed it.

“We were worried, but now that we’ve started following those cases, we are very sad,” Dr. Silva said. “The picture is really terrible. At the least, if they have microcephaly, we expect them to have a very poor quality of life.”

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Experts and the authors of the studies said it was unclear why these infants’ brains did not develop enough to match their age and body size. Dr. Ernesto T. A. Marques Jr., an infectious disease specialist at the University of Pittsburgh and the Oswaldo Cruz Foundation in Recife, who was not involved in either study, said it could be that because of the initial fetal brain damage, “the necessary pathways and hormones that organize growth of the neonatal brain are not there anymore and the brain doesn’t grow.”

It could also be the result of the immune system responding to the original Zika virus infection. Dr. Moore said that another possibility might be that there was still some infection that continued to damage the brain. But she said that seemed less likely, given that follow-up tests for Zika virus conducted on seven of the babies did not find evidence of active infection.

 
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The oldest babies in these studies are only just over a year old, too young for researchers to identify cognitive problems or delays in skills like speech. But some deficits are clear: Many of the babies had serious physical deficits tied to neurological damage, including overly tense muscles, muscle weakness and the inability to voluntarily move their hands.

Still, unlike many babies born with microcephaly, most of the 13 in the new study had social interaction skills like smiling and making eye contact. And eight of them had good head control, an important skill for developing the ability to sit or walk.

While cautioning that the study involved too few cases to make generalizations, Dr. van der Linden said that it appeared that most of these babies had good eye contact because the damage was less severe in brain areas involving vision than it was in areas involving motor skills.

Dr. Marques said that head control, the ability to lift and support the head without help, in babies with microcephaly was “quite rare.” Having a social smile and eye contact is less rare, he said, depending on the type of visual damage and on whether they receive enough visual stimulation to strengthen their ability to use their eyes.

“At this age, 80 percent of brain stimulus comes from the eyes,” he said. “If you don’t have that working and you lose this window of opportunity, these babies cannot recover it.”

One baby, a boy, had no anomalies at birth. His limbs looked normal and his head size was proportional to his body, Dr. Moore said. But brain scans soon after birth showed excess fluid and abnormalities in his cortex and corpus callosum, which separates the two hemispheres. At 11 months old, he had microcephaly, and also epilepsy, difficulty swallowing, involuntary muscle contractions, and muscles that were too stiff and restricted his movement, she said.

Another baby had a sloping forehead and slight depressions in the front of his head at birth, as well as similar types of brain damage, apparent on scans, Dr. Moore said. By the time he was 1, he had developed microcephaly that was among the most severe of the babies in the study, and had muscular and swallowing problems. But he also had good eye contact, researchers reported.

In six of the cases, the mothers reported having a symptom of Zika infection, a rash, between the second and fifth months of pregnancy. That supports other evidence suggesting that babies born to mothers who were infected late in the first trimester suffer the most serious effects. But since there are no symptoms in 80 percent of cases of Zika infection, it was unclear when most of the women were infected, and researchers are still unable to say whether the virus is more damaging to babies if their mothers experience symptoms
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Rusty Edge on March 30, 2022, 03:42:05 AM
My search indicates that West Nile virus references and discussions are scattered, so I'm placing this here. Apparently, climate change is good for West Nile virus. Milder winters make for better mosquito survival. Surprisingly, droughts are a contributing factor because it makes the birds congregate. This increases the infection %.

https://khn.org/news/article/climate-change-may-push-the-us-toward-the-goldilocks-zone-for-west-nile-virus/
Title: Re: How serious do you find Zika Virus threat?
Post by: Unorthodox on March 30, 2022, 03:50:51 PM
Beyond bird congregating, droughts make things exponentially tougher for Mosquitoes natural predators than it does for the mosquitoes. 

Again, I'd strongly recommend breeding and release of predatory mosquitoes, but people would rather spray, which only serves to accentuate mosquitoes advantages over predators. 
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