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Title: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 05, 2016, 01:30:06 PM
Change of pace, you can vote for 3!   ;lol

Because:

http://www.cnet.com/news/hillary-clinton-believes-aliens-may-well-have-paid-us-a-visit/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/hillary-clinton-believes-aliens-may-well-have-paid-us-a-visit/)

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If you thought the presidential campaign was already slightly extraterrestrial, it just became even more so.


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Hillary Clinton, alien hunter.

Niu Xiaolei/Xinhua Press/Corbis

I come to this conclusion after learning that leading Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton intends to sort out the issue of whether aliens exist once and for all.

Clinton was interviewed late last month by the editorial board of the influential (in New Hampshire) Conway Daily Sun. After answering questions on foreign policy and the economy, she was reminded of a conversation she had with the reporter in 2007 about UFOs.

The reporter also brought up how her husband -- former president Bill Clinton -- mused in April to Jimmy Kimmel that he "wouldn't be surprised" if aliens had wandered down here and checked us out.




Hillary Clinton rather agreed. Having fun with the reporter, she said. "I think we may have been (visited already). We don't know for sure," she said.

But what will she do about it? It's all very well that politicians whet our appetites, but we need to know. We've watched far too many TV shows that assume aliens exist, and frankly it's killing us.

Thankfully, Clinton says that if she's elected she would "get to the bottom of it."

In this, she's being encouraged by John Podesta, her campaign chairman and a vast enthusiast of alien theories.

"He has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out. One way or another," she told the Sun. "Maybe we could have, like, a task force to go to Area 51." (Area 51 is a US Air Force facility in southern Nevada where evidence of alien life is allegedly hidden.)


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Given our strange and twisted political times, I can see that the promise of a task force to finally unearth evidence of alien visits will persuade more than a few voters.

It appeals both to our sense of adventure and our realization that politics as usual is painfully ineffective these days. This could out-[Sleezebag] even the most radical Donald [Sleezebag] proposal.

I can see a live stream as everything is examined. It will be called "The Aliens Awaken." I can see Geraldo Rivera, Maury Povich and Anderson Cooper co-hosting the spectacle.

The search for Bigfoot will seem like a piffling cartoon when compared to this. We'll be riveted for days, months even.

And when proof of alien life is finally placed in front of a camera, we will never be the same again. Neither will politics or television.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 05, 2016, 01:34:34 PM
Thread feels incomplete without this...

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo#)
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Lorizael on January 05, 2016, 04:05:30 PM
Maybe we're the aliens!? (Real, (completely speculative) scientific hypothesis.)
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Yitzi on January 05, 2016, 06:15:39 PM
Unlikely, but no real way to know for sure.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Valka on January 05, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
Ohforpetessake.  ::)


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Humans built the pyramids, Stonehenge, the Nazca lines, Atlantis is a myth, and I've got ZERO patience with Chariots of the Gods nonsense.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 05, 2016, 09:43:17 PM
and I've got ZERO patience with Chariots of the Gods nonsense.


But at Puma Punku (spelling) we see things we couldn't do with our technology TODAY...;)
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Valka on January 06, 2016, 12:01:54 AM
At whut?  ???
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Unorthodox on January 06, 2016, 04:39:59 AM
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfzXLdUMq_U#)

(for whatever reason, this show is great for my insomnia, so I've "seen" a fair few partial episodes, not many full ones.)
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Valka on January 06, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
 :mad:
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: abc123 on January 06, 2016, 06:19:17 AM
Maybe we're the aliens!? (Real, (completely speculative) scientific hypothesis.)

Hmmm. Just like colonizing AC ... only we colonized Earth such a long time ago that no one remembers that we came from somewhere else?
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Lorizael on January 06, 2016, 02:33:01 PM
The actual (completely speculative) scientific hypothesis is that, as microbes, we were launched toward Earth during an impact event on, say, Mars. We know that Martian ejecta can land on Earth, and we know that Mars used to be warmer and wetter, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. (There was also some evidence in the 90s that Martian meteorites contained fossils of microbial life, but very few people today think that evidence is good.)
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: ColdWizard on January 06, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
I favor the Vasin-Shcherbakov Theory. Because it's more entertaining.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 06, 2016, 07:52:23 PM
Oh. What about the theory that we arrived as frozen microbes on a comet?



I had a long reply to this yesterday, but I had hardware trouble. No. I don't believe that the aliens ever landed here, I believe that Flash, Dale, and Dr. Zharkov went to Mongo instead. The proof positive film footage is on this forum.

Where was I ?

Actually, the most compelling case for a close encounter is the book of Ezekiel. If you read it with the bias that the Angel is really a space man, and that those "scrolls" they told him to eat were actually capsules of memory RNA, ala Larry Niven's "Rammer" story, it makes much more sense than as another prophecy by another prophet.  After all, an ancient might equate a capsule with characters printed on it with a small scroll complete with hemispherical end caps.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 07, 2016, 06:47:56 AM
Puma Punku was probably a Rebel base,  like the one on Hoth,  and met with much the same fate.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 07, 2016, 07:38:27 PM
People often seem quick to discount the ancients.
Just because we can't figure out how to do what they did with what they had doesn't mean they couldn't do it without alien or divine intervention. They had less technology, but not less intelligence.
They had less knowledge, but not less patience. They had fewer resources, but not less resourcefulness.


Patient polishing can compensate for crude cutting. More man-hours can compensate for a horsepower deficiency.  Ramps and ropes and A frames can compensate for cranes. Materials can be substituted. Remember that Rome wasn't built in a day.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Valka on January 08, 2016, 02:02:28 PM
The people who built the pyramids (Egyptian and North American) understood basic geometry and engineering principles. They had at least some of the traditional "simple machines".

They also had what too many modern people appear to lack: an attention span and the ability to plan beyond the next two or four years. Considering how many decades it took to construct some of the castles and cathedrals in Europe, and how determined the ancient people were to finish the pyramids (and Hatshupsut's tomb)... just think if modern people were to apply that kind of vision and determination to more pressing things like cleaning up the environment, making sure people have all their basic needs met, and get cracking on a space program that will actually let us go somewhere.

Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Rusty Edge on January 08, 2016, 08:05:19 PM
The people who built the pyramids (Egyptian and North American) understood basic geometry and engineering principles. They had at least some of the traditional "simple machines".

They also had what too many modern people appear to lack: an attention span and the ability to plan beyond the next two or four years. Considering how many decades it took to construct some of the castles and cathedrals in Europe, and how determined the ancient people were to finish the pyramids (and Hatshupsut's tomb)... just think if modern people were to apply that kind of vision and determination to more pressing things like cleaning up the environment, making sure people have all their basic needs met, and get cracking on a space program that will actually let us go somewhere.

Uh, actually that is rather profound. I have a tendency to think of ancient wonders in terms of the Egyptian Pyramids, which were built in the course of a Pharoh's lifetime. But cathedrals took centuries, and that kind of planning, commitment and persistence of vision could let us go somewhere in space.
Title: Re: Have Aliens visited Earth?
Post by: Lorizael on January 09, 2016, 02:39:13 AM
They also had what too many modern people appear to lack: an attention span and the ability to plan beyond the next two or four years.

Dictatorships  ;b;
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