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Title: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 05:39:23 AM
Well... I've had a hard day. Got rear ended while sitting at a stop light on a long straight 50 mph road. We were about the 4th car in line at the light in the center lane. Didn't see him coming. Didn't hear brakes. Knocked us into the car ahead and terrorized some children in it. Lucky for them we were there to absorb the brunt of the impact. The offending driver had no insurance. We suspect texting.

I think I'm going to drink some rum or brandy, take a long hot shower, and maybe relax my aching neck and back.
Have I ever talked online about the incident of 10 August 1996, roughly 10:55pm?  I thought I was dead.

I. Thought. I. Was. Dead. when my car finished spinning.

I literally thought "This is it.  I'm dead."  My life didn't flash before my eyes, but BOY did I experience slowmo.  I'll never forget the sound of the glass from my rear window tinkling as it bounced around the interior of my (suddenly ex) car, bounced off me, while I waited to be made dead forever.

-Rusty, if you need to talk about it in the month or so to come, Jesus; I'm available.  DO NOT HESITATE.  That $#@! can be hard to walk off.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 18, 2015, 07:14:39 AM
I appreciate it Buncle.  My wife just told me I screamed, but I don't recall that part. I was momentarily confused. Maybe I'll need to talk about it if I remember more of the crash sequence.
Car accidents can be traumatic in surprising ways.

I was in a spinning head-on corner clipper with a drunk one night circa '98-'2000.  I lost the car but I walked away with only a stiff neck and sprained wrist. The psychological trauma was lingering, because a passenger in the other car lost the use of his arms. The idea that he couldn't wipe his own butt really bothered me for months because I couldn't tolerate living like that. Survivor's guilt, of sorts.

Eventually my boss snapped me out of it by making me realize that I did the best I could, and that if an average driver ( traveling sales job, I was a "pro  driver" at the time ) encountered a wrong way driver on the highway there, it would have been lethal for more than one of us. Everybody was lucky they encountered me first.

The other driver got a five year jail sentence, and the passenger gradually improved from paralysis to mere numbness, last I heard. I changed jobs and counties after the trial.


Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: vonbach on September 18, 2015, 12:01:47 PM
I've seen (and been in a few)  a number of accidents over the years. I actually had a car clip ours when I was a
kid. Spun the entire  car around about 3 or 4 times. No one in either car was seriously hurt.
I can recall two accidents in my childhood to early adulthood in where I saw a couple kids die.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Unorthodox on September 18, 2015, 02:40:38 PM
Been in a few accidents as well.  Two still disturb me.  A semi decided he wanted my lane on the highway.  I can still see the lug nuts just cutting into my driver side door like it was butter.  Horrible sound.  I managed to get into the emergency lane and my options were a barricade, ditch, or semi as I couldn't stop.  Fortunately the driver back off and I was able to avoid what would have been death.  That car had no AC, and I normally drove with my window down and my arm on the door.  It was an abnormally cold afternoon, or I would have lost my arm when that tire started cutting up the door.

The second was a hit and run, someone watching the jets take off from the air force base sideswiped me on the freeway causing me to lose control into a spin in heavy traffic.  In what the cop witnessing the accident called the best driving he's seen outside a movie, I managed to regain control of the spinning car...BACKWARDS down the freeway and pull into the emergency lane.  Would have made it to a safe stop there had there not been a sandbag barrier around a drain that knocked me back into traffic where I got hit a second time, but relatively minor. 

Considering 15 years, my job specifically involved driving semis and heavy equipment, my hours behind a wheel are tremendous, I probably should have more on my record.     

Get right, even minor scrapes can mess things up.  You see a doctor?
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 18, 2015, 05:53:41 PM
       Get right, even minor scrapes can mess things up.  You see a doctor?

Thanks, Uno.
The EMTs were there in a hurry, either because the hospital was close, or because it looked like there may have been another accident on the intersecting road around the corner. ( The city is laid out in grids, with a major street every mile. This was an intersection of 2 of those drives. The one we were on had been beefed up to handle traffic from the interstate, which is under a major interchange rebuild.  It was about 4:40 pm, with a light rain. ) We declined the hospital.

 Today I'm sore, but not stiff. My neck turns fine again, and while my back never feels good unless I'm on prescription drugs for something else, it's more or less normal again, soreness aside. Just as I'd choose sinus drainage over sinus blockage any day of the week, I'd choose sore muscles over stiff ones. No seatbelt bruises or scrapes.

My wife has some stretched neck muscles today. She's going to ice them when she gets home.


I don't remember much of the missing moments. I know I was looking at the ceiling revolving around at one point, the floor of the car zooming up at me at another, and hearing crunches. I don't know if I thought I was having a vertigo attack, or a flashback to one of those interstate pile-ups and infernos I got detained in once.

I guess I didn't say that my wife was driving, and that we were in her car. Probably because we were just sitting at the light, and it was more like we were parked than driving.

I can say that having been rear ended twice before in my driving career, IF YOU HAVE SOMEPLACE SAFE TO STEER, and you see in your mirror the car behind you coming too fast, pushing in the clutch or throwing it in neutral just  before impact will get you off with a bumper scuff.

Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
I think this has enough legs on it to split into a new thread.  Clearly, everybody's got stories, and we're talking about some pretty primal trauma.  I know I'd like to talk some more about it...

Any objections?
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 18, 2015, 10:09:32 PM
I think this has enough legs on it to split into a new thread.  Clearly, everybody's got stories, and we're talking about some pretty primal trauma.  I know I'd like to talk some more about it...

Any objections?

None. Go for it.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 10:32:53 PM
Done.

I should write up my whole story, I guess.  It's far from the only contact traffic incident I was ever in, not even pretty spectacular 360+ spinout-on-an-interstate-highway ones, but none of the rest turned me into a wanting to be in a fetal-position basket case for a month.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: vonbach on September 18, 2015, 11:10:52 PM
Every other year a deer decides to put its head in front of my cars bumper.
Its just par for the course here.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 11:54:29 PM
Do you at least get some meat or jerky out of the deal?
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: vonbach on September 18, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
Not really. Just car damage.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2015, 11:56:54 PM
No luck with deer whistles, then?
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: vonbach on September 19, 2015, 12:14:28 AM
Yes from what i've seen and herd about them the deer get startled by them and run in front of your car more.
Its never one deer. The first deer leads and all the rest follow. Its the last two or three that are too stupid to pay
attention. They just follow the herd.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 12:37:18 AM
Huh.  I've seen them on a few trucks, but never heard whether they worked.  You're a bit further out in the country than I am.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: gwillybj on September 19, 2015, 12:56:23 AM
Do you at least get some meat or jerky out of the deal?
Around here if its edible the trooper will write up a tag and you can take it home. I got 90 pounds of good venison from one I hit. I was going downhill at about 55 when the thing just stepped right out there. Totalled the car: folded the hood like a playing card, laid the radiator back on the engine block and split the transaxle wide open. I was fine; more mad than anything.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on September 19, 2015, 01:03:10 AM
Do you at least get some meat or jerky out of the deal?
Around here if its edible the trooper will write up a tag and you can take it home. I got 90 pounds of good venison from one I hit. I was going downhill at about 55 when the thing just stepped right out there. Totalled the car: folded the hood like a playing card, laid the radiator back on the engine block and split the transaxle wide open. I was fine; more mad than anything.
I imagine this thread remains the incorrect location to make deer in the headlight jokes. . .
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 01:22:59 AM
Well-put.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 19, 2015, 03:27:37 AM
When I lived in Appalachia we concluded that the advantage of bumper whistles were that they often made the dear lift and turn their heads towards you. This makes it easier for you to see one and be alerted to their presence.

But deer are still deer, and how many of them there are, and whether they'll cross the road completely, halfway,  not at all, or cross and retreat back, WHO KNOWS?



I had a couple of errands today. I was really suspicious of one person following me talking on their phone. I needn't have been.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 03:31:38 AM
Hard to walk off, sometimes...

I showed up for work that night, BTW, and kept showing up.  Had to rinse a touch of blood off my arms when I got there, but none from a scratch big enough to see.  If I had gone home, I REALLY would have fallen apart w/o distractions.  I was okay that night until it hit the dead time around 3am. 

Spent the whole shift convincing regulars I'd really had my car totaled on the way to work by reaching and pulling out a speck of safety glass from my hair in back to show them.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on September 19, 2015, 03:41:46 AM
I have never been in a serious car accident. The closest I have come to being in a serious accident was the time that the remnants of an individual's car tire came flying towards the wind shield while on the 405 freeway.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: gwillybj on September 19, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
I apologize for placing my deer story here. It was a very real situation that could have been a lot worse (if there was a lot of traffic, for instance). Even so, it was nothing compared to the vehicle to vehicle collision BUncle was in.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 03:59:10 PM
Nothing to apologize for.  It's on topic, fit the flow of conversation, and absolutely no harm done. ;b;
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 23, 2015, 05:18:01 AM
Well, as for aftermath...

Our car was totaled by the insurance adjuster. Buckled unibody. We were asked by my brother-in-law what model hit us, and we agreed we didn't know. it was a 2-door black car with a demolished front end and blown airbags. Maybe Japanese built.

Possibly the driver responsible ( funny word juxtaposition, for a an uninsured driver ) was asleep or texting, because we think he had options as far as steering into adjacent lanes, and there were no apparent skid marks.

Here the law is pull over or slow down when you see an emergency vehicle roadside. I came around the curve and there was a police car with flashing lights, maybe assisting a disabled motorist. I slowed down, my wife criticized my driving, saying I was risking a rear-end collision.

Tonight I was waiting at another major intersection, and when the light changed I was getting nervous when the guy ahead delayed and then drove away at 10mph on a 30mph street. I was thinking o0O(HURRY UP! GET ME OUT OF THIS INTERSECTION!!)

So, we're both still paranoid. Physically we are recovered.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: ColdWizard on September 23, 2015, 03:58:52 PM
Took me years after getting rear-ended to not check my rearview mirror when stopped.

Also, the deer in and near my current subdivision stop and look for traffic before crossing.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
It's not all the fear of it, either -men are programmed all their lives to not let fear of death get to them too much- but a disgust at the doggon whole world, too.  I was minding my own business, prudently hanging back and not passing a very slow drunk driver who wasn't keeping in the lanes at all about a half mile to my exit.  I was actually watching a fool with no more sense than to try to pass getting forced into the median when BOOM!

-Just like that, I wasn't a car owner any more.

You not only can't keep your SELF safe from the world, you can't even defend your STUFF from the fools.  That is really hard to live with, being reminded so forcefully how impossible it is to keep yourself and your property safe from the caprices of fate, and stupid people.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: ColdWizard on September 23, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Stupid/ignorant/apathetic/inconsiderate/willfully obtuse/incompetent people. I'm most of those things at any given point during the day but I try hard not to be any* when operating two tons of glass and steel. Because it's two tons of glass and steel.


*Possibly excepting inconsiderate; because [fuddle-duddle] your last minute dive across multiple lanes and [fuddle-duddle] you. Pull a legal u-turn at the next available light (or a right and then a u, or multiple rights, etc etc etc).
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2015, 06:17:46 PM
That's pretty exactly it.  Operating over a ton of mass at lethal speeds, I try very hard not to be anybody else's problem on the road.  It's not just safer, it's polite.

If everybody did that all they could in everything, half of our civilization's problems go away -poof- just like that.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 24, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
Perhaps you share my dream-

I imagine a world in which driving would be transformed form a stressful, competitive, dangerous  process to a relaxing, cooperative, safe one. How? By drivers simply communicating their intentions beforehand with

.....

TURN SIGNALS!
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: ColdWizard on September 24, 2015, 10:52:28 PM
No. My dream is where I'm the dictator of some land area large enough to have roads and I implement my three strikes driving policy. Wherein three infractions (failure to signal, failure to yield the passing lane, failure to keep up with the flow of traffic, etc) results in the offender being summarily executed on the side of the road and the vehicle going to the person at the top of the free car list. More serious violations (drunk driving, texting, etc) can result in summary execution in their own right.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
WTD happened with turn signals?  People were doing that, mostly, up to late 1985 when I went off to four year college for more than four years, and didn't do much driving - when I graduated at the end of 1989 and reentered the world, people had stopped signaling, mostly, for ANYthing.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 25, 2015, 02:28:17 AM
In Eastern PA around the turn of the century, using a signal was tipping your hand, and others would race you for that open slot. You know, they were afraid of losing time because somebody might gain a position ahead of them or something.

Across the border in more densely populated Jersey, the crankier-but-wiser drivers had already learned that lesson the hard way- NOBODY SAVES TIME WHEN YOU CRUNCH FENDERS . So they would yield position and let you merge, even though it may be accompanied by horns, shaking fists, or other gestures, and rapidly working jaws.

Actually, on the whole the Wisconsin drivers are relatively courteous about yielding, signaling, and so forth. It just makes the exceptions so much more obvious and annoying.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: ColdWizard on September 25, 2015, 03:10:22 AM
In Eastern PA around the turn of the century, using a signal was tipping your hand, and others would race you for that open slot. You know, they were afraid of losing time because somebody might gain a position ahead of them or something.

Used to see that a lot around here. Seems less frequent now but I don't do highway rush anymore. I used to do it myself, actually. Now I don't have to worry about it, I don't leave enough space and the person that wants to slot in can just go 3 cars farther up into the 15-car length gap the cell phone driver leaves.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on March 28, 2016, 04:30:51 AM
New story-
After church today we're on our way to the usual Easter lunch at Olive Garden ( traditional family dinner is an evening meal on this holiday ), not streets we normally travel, but it's a flat straight blvd. with 2 lanes each way.

 We're in no hurry, driving the speed limit or a little over, and it's starting to rain. I'm driving my Pacifica with 3 passengers. I'm in the right lane, and am slowly closing in on the car in the left lane. There's about one car length left between us.

I heard it coming before I saw it, so it must have been moving at less than Mach I. This time my reaction wasn't to throw it into neutral and brace for impact, or steer for the curb. My instininct said HARD BREAK and trust the aggressive driver. So I did. He somehow flashed by between me and the guy in the left lane. My wife estimated his speed at 80. No lights, even though it's raining and required by law.

Well, we caught up at the next light. Black Altima with bright chrome, no rear plate.  I glanced over. Black guy with short hair driving and a blonde passenger.
Light changes, they're off like a shot again, leaving us with dropped jaws.

They go a block, approaching two, when they abruptly halt in the street, throw it in reverse and accelerate as quick as can be, passing us again going the wrong way in reverse at top speed, and leaving us pretty much in shock. Frankly we've never seen the like of this kind of driving except in the movies, or Bondurant's driving school.  http://bondurant.com/ (http://bondurant.com/) He had it under control. Apparently he missed his turn, or he was trying to evade somebody, because my niece said he turned west from the high speed reverse.  We pulled over and called the police.

Anyway, while I was shocked at this driving behavior, I wasn't afraid. So, I guess I'm over my trauma from being rear-ended.

We suspect car thievery, but maybe he was late for church, or had to pee.

 The city has taken a hands off approach to car theft, both with enforcement and prosecution. #1) insurance pays. #2) police pursuits endanger people. #3) jails and prisons are crowded.
The trouble is that this crime has only grown, and escalated to car jacking, too. I think the situation justifies a bait car program.

The question on my mind is, "how many of the car thieves have played Grand Theft Auto, and what did they think of it?"


Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 04, 2016, 12:12:22 AM
It's appalling beyond words, isn't it, that anyone over the age of eighteen doesn't comprehend that there's a social contract in the very dangerous enterprise of piloting north of a ton of metal at high velocities where you should try to be no one else doing the same's problem.

You know, I don't recall a single word said about practical driving ethics in high school driver's ed.  I've heard that a lot of that gets taught in the driving classes judges sentence drunks and speeders to take - but I'd say it was a profound mistake to leave that off for only the problem cases who got caught.  Regular people going about their otherwise legal lives are out there changings three lanes at once -and a million other reckless things- and endangering everyone else on the road every day.  -Some preemptive instruction to the kids might help a little...
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on April 04, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
It's appalling beyond words, isn't it, that anyone over the age of eighteen doesn't comprehend that there's a social contract in the very dangerous enterprise of piloting north of a ton of metal at high velocities where you should try to be no one else doing the same's problem.

You know, I don't recall a single word said about practical driving ethics in high school driver's ed.  I've heard that a lot of that gets taught in the driving classes judges sentence drunks and speeders to take - but I'd say it was a profound mistake to leave that off for only the problem cases who got caught.  Regular people going about their otherwise legal lives are out there changings three lanes at once -and a million other reckless things- and endangering everyone else on the road every day.  -Some preemptive instruction to the kids might help a little...
The concept of prevention rarely enters the public conscious because it requires extensive planning to implent on a large. The content of the preventive measure might cause some people to think that the class forces a certain ethical and moral viewpoint upon the "minor." The whole seperation of major religious and social ethics in government stems from the establishment clause of the United States Constitution. The clause prohibits the excessive entanglement of government and religion through the application of a Lemon test. The origin of many people's ethical viewpoints comes from a combination of experience and enviroment. The enviroment of a person includes religious upbringing and the events that follow the religion.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 04, 2016, 12:46:35 AM
Yeah.

I don't know where/how to look up the sort of thing they teach drunk drivers in those classes, but I don't think it's a First Amendment issue by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 04, 2016, 03:31:00 AM
Good point about the driving ethics.

Speaking of my own driving, a lot of times I'm lost in thought, or too preoccupied watching for deer/children/texting drivers/speed traps/pot holes/drunks, etc. ahead of me that I forget to check my mirrors often enough.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 04, 2016, 03:38:03 AM
I just know that more than once, I've been talking about the wisdom of slowing down before stoplights to try to hit the intersection rolling, or how speeding doesn't even pay off much except on long drives, and someone accused me of having taken one of those drunk driving classes.

No - I'm miserly and think cars are dangerous; worked those things out for myself - but why they didn't tell me in Driver's Ed when I was 15, I don't know.  It just seems like if you tell a roomful of kids "this doesn't get you there much sooner, but it DOES make it A LOT more dangerous for you and everyone on the road" a few will actually listen; more will remember a few years later.  The level of anti-social driving habits might go down a little.  I don't see a downside.

If "this is immoral" didn't reach me back then, "this is the SMART play" should have...
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2016, 05:03:53 PM
I just know that more than once, I've been talking about the wisdom of slowing down before stoplights to try to hit the intersection rolling, or how speeding doesn't even pay off much except on long drives, and someone accused me of having taken one of those drunk driving classes.

No - I'm miserly and think cars are dangerous; worked those things out for myself - but why they didn't tell me in Driver's Ed when I was 15, I don't know.  It just seems like if you tell a roomful of kids "this doesn't get you there much sooner, but it DOES make it A LOT more dangerous for you and everyone on the road" a few will actually listen; more will remember a few years later.  The level of anti-social driving habits might go down a little.  I don't see a downside.

If "this is immoral" didn't reach me back then, "this is the SMART play" should have...
I have seen more people speed through lights right before it turns red than I care to admit while  I walk across intersections.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 07, 2016, 05:08:33 PM
You realize I was talking about slowing down to give the red light time to change, right?  Most people power right up to the light, slam on the brakes, and have to accelerate from a dead stop when it turns green - slow down and let it turn before you get there, and you can blow the door off the impatient people starting from a dead stop.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2016, 05:23:34 PM
You realize I was talking about slowing down to give the red light time to change, right?  Most people power right up to the light, slam on the brakes, and have to accelerate from a dead stop when it turns green - slow down and let it turn before you get there, and you can blow the door off the impatient people starting from a dead stop.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Some people in California ignore the red lights and stop signs. Have you ever heard of a California stop? A California stop (a.k.a rolling stop) basically means that a vehicle stops minimally at stop signs and then proceeds to speed up immediately. The real rule involves coming into a complete stop before you follow the standard rules for stop signs.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 07, 2016, 05:32:26 PM
Yes.  If you don't feel that little jerk as the vehicle comes to a dead stop, you're illegal.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 07, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
I just know that more than once, I've been talking about the wisdom of slowing down before stoplights to try to hit the intersection rolling, or how speeding doesn't even pay off much except on long drives, and someone accused me of having taken one of those drunk driving classes.

No - I'm miserly and think cars are dangerous; worked those things out for myself - but why they didn't tell me in Driver's Ed when I was 15, I don't know.  It just seems like if you tell a roomful of kids "this doesn't get you there much sooner, but it DOES make it A LOT more dangerous for you and everyone on the road" a few will actually listen; more will remember a few years later.  The level of anti-social driving habits might go down a little.  I don't see a downside.

If "this is immoral" didn't reach me back then, "this is the SMART play" should have...

Well, yes, maybe if they played the safer and saves gas angle more so than the ethical. But as you say that wasn't really what the instruction was about. It was how to operate, the rules, and awareness. Plus films about what happens when that goes wrong.

This has me thinking... I misjudged traffic lights twice so far this year. Both times I had somebody accelerating behind me. That wasn't a consideration in either case, but it left me feeling guilty for breaking the law, and glad for not getting rear-ended again.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 09, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
I dunno - no downside to trying to plant an ethical POV into young minds to help influence the driving style decisions they make; especially as they age and get more patient/prudent.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on April 10, 2016, 01:45:53 AM
I dunno - no downside to trying to plant an ethical POV into young minds to help influence the driving style decisions they make; especially as they age and get more patient/prudent.
It might cause the teenagers to rebel against the oppressive attitudes of "cranky adults."
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 10, 2016, 01:59:54 AM
Tellin' 'em how to get there faster for less gasoline overhead with the least people killed?  Public school teachers do have a talent, some of them, for making everything boring and oppressive, but c'mon.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Dio on April 10, 2016, 02:52:59 AM
I saw a car today that decided to disregard oncoming traffic while making a right turn and, after the turn, began to weave through traffic. I felt unsafe around that individual.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 10, 2016, 07:37:49 PM
This is the world in which we find ourselves.  Siiigh.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Unorthodox on April 11, 2016, 02:31:11 PM
Had a semi try to run us off the road on our return drive. 
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 11, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
We were in the same part of town as we were on Easter Sunday. You guessed it. Black Altima, no plates. This time it was dirty, but we saw it on the same street that it raced backwards to turn onto.
Not nearly so fast today, but couldn't be bothered to stop at a stop sign, just glided into a right turn.
Taking your foot off of the gas is the same as using the brakes, right?

Well, if they're still driving it, it's probably not stolen after all.
Title: Re: Car wrecks and trauma
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 11, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
...You probably ought to fill the po-po in on what you've seen so they'll be on the lookout around there...
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