Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
The 'game' I'm proposing could revolve around the trade functionality already built into the shop. It would be a buying/selling/scarcity type game allowing the moderators of the forum to 'release' limited items and then members could use or sell them amongst each other as they see fit.
A different but almost as feasable idea would be to use the FFE to create a stock of parts and do some kind of in-forum AC base-building type game. We would need someone good at graphics to make things purdy, and I'd probably want to create some kind of war/battle mechanic too in order to give a competitive flair.
Regardless, any overhaul would necessitate a reset of the EC at some point. What I would like to see is a sense of how interested everyone would be (so would you play) and a way to level the playing field (so insomniac lurkposters don't run roughshod over everyone). In the meantime as I test things, please ignore my EC it is meaningless.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 10:30:41 PM
I'll observe that I'm currently a gadzillionare -and I'd be 100x richer if hadn't reduced the EC of the top of the Bank list by an order of magnitude twice over the last three years- and I'm fine with starting over. As far as it goes as a measuring contest, I figure I'd still easily win.
I'm the proud owner of three Rocks, BTW.
EDIT: Oh yeah - if only we knew anyone who rocked the forum graphics...
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 05, 2015, 01:27:35 AM
Or trying a game.
Post by: Dio on July 05, 2015, 11:58:55 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 06, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Making everyone down to ariete worth only one more than whoever's next might be the way to go...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 01:30:45 AM
Eadee is on to something, though. A more reasonable 10x markup of 50EC for the value of a decent joke might be really honestly viable...
Post by: Valka on July 11, 2015, 03:20:55 AM
However... there's something that I Can Has Cheezburger?/cheezburger.com did several years ago that had people completely absorbed: Collectibles.
Every week they'd release different Collectibles in one or another category, and the idea was to get the full slate of them. You could do this by just logging in, or by trading for them. If you were really serious, you could buy Cheezcoins (for real money) from LolMart (that part of the site has been shut down for a long while now) and buy that extremely rare one that never seems to appear.
These are the collectibles: http://profile.cheezburger.com/Klea/Collectibles (http://profile.cheezburger.com/Klea/Collectibles)
What resulted was that some of us made lols making offers or proposing trade deals: http://kleas-trading-post.cheezburger.com/ (http://kleas-trading-post.cheezburger.com/)
These are just three of the lols I did during this time, wheeling and dealing for these little images...
Sometimes we had many more of some than we needed, like Ironic Mustaches:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/ironic-mustache_zpsfodrwglj.jpg)
And others were hard to find:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/I%20CAN%20HAS%20CHEEZBURGER/My%20Collectible%20Trading%20Post/bachelor-frog_zpsigffjpyz.jpg)
Never thought I'd be asking for one of these things:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/I%20CAN%20HAS%20CHEEZBURGER/My%20Collectible%20Trading%20Post/fruitcake_zpsxz1jd44t.jpg)
(as you can see, I use a different name on that site)
Would this kind of activity work here?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 03:43:32 AM
Post by: Valka on July 11, 2015, 03:49:51 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 03:55:06 AM
Post by: Eadee on July 11, 2015, 12:55:09 PM
I'm thinking of items called like secret projects here.
So every month you are allowed to throw EC into any of the secret projects. And whoever invested the most in this month gets Controll of that project for the next month.
Each project will record how much EC in total were spent on it and controll of it rewards the User with some other points (not EC because that would create a loop) maybe its called Fame-, Glory-, or Transcendence-Points. Each Project rewards a number of those Points based on the ranking (total of 37 secret Projects, am I right?) so 37 Points/month for the top ranking Project. 36 in the second one and so on.
Finally those points grant bragging rights like nothing else and are otherwise completely useless.
I know it would be some effort to implement all of this, but the idea formed in my Mind and I just needet to share it, no matter how much of this might be realised or not.
So this suggestion is open for discussion / adjustment / implemention if you like it.
Post by: Valka on July 11, 2015, 01:02:07 PM
Clea, daughter of Umar the Unspeakable, niece of the Dread Dormammu and Ruler of the Dark Dimension. Google Clea (Marvel Comics) and read the Wikipedia article if you're curious.I hadn't known about that character. My username came from one of my Fighting Fantasy campaigns.
Post by: Geo on July 11, 2015, 04:22:38 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
I don't drink, BTW.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Would this kind of activity work here?It would have to be thread-based advertising, absent someone gaining mastery of .php coding and doing some mods. But thread-based would be pretty awesome... ;nod
Post by: Geo on July 11, 2015, 08:17:08 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
Post by: Geo on July 11, 2015, 11:28:52 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
It won't be the first time - she had the nerve to demand a refund.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 11:36:52 PM
Post by: Geo on July 12, 2015, 07:41:25 AM
If so, the shop's text should reflect that. Sounds like a scam to me otherwise, offering people an opportunity and not delivering on it.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2015, 12:55:53 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2015, 02:22:00 PM
---
Okay - the top five richest people all started in the Bank when we had the interest set crazy high, .1 compounded daily, which was just enough for the minimum deposit to draw interest; ariete's fortune, as far as I know, is entirely from depositing 50ec and waiting a few months before any withdrawals (he's bought several Sticky a Threads - and used all but one). sisko later reduced interest to .0811 because me and I have no Name were threatening to break the innerwebs with our mad richness. -So it's fair -because Rymdolov, # six, didn't start under the old interest rate- that I've reduced the fortunes of the top five by an order of magnitude three times. I just did the third. Here's today's Bank top ten standings and fortunes:
BUncle 310501702 EC
I Have No Name 308973244 EC
sisko 68299797 EC
Kilkakon 45956595 EC
ariete 1488501 EC
Rymdolov 8114 EC
NewAgeOfPower 6680 EC
Geo 6014 EC
Unorthodox 4368 EC
Yitzi 4009 EC
(I left tha' toitle 1,000 in the Bank when I kicked him off the top ten. He's earned it for meritorious service.)
Post by: Geo on July 12, 2015, 03:44:20 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2015, 04:06:01 PM
Post by: Geo on July 12, 2015, 04:32:30 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2015, 04:38:03 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2015, 08:38:52 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 13, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 03:43:01 PM
Post by: Mart on July 13, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
a bar of gold?
Post by: Geo on July 13, 2015, 04:20:55 PM
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 04:31:57 PM
Post by: Mart on July 13, 2015, 04:41:03 PM
A small pile of shiny gold coins, of course. ...Ok, two coins... maybe three...
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 04:46:24 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 04:49:33 PM
Post by: Eadee on July 13, 2015, 06:12:39 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 06:43:21 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 07:07:34 PM
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 10:42:02 PM
Post by: Valka on July 13, 2015, 11:02:05 PM
They're both really nice, but I'm not sure what the green half of #2 represents, unless it was an aesthetic choice.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
I chose that one too, and am about to create a Trader usergroup and throw Eadee in.
Post by: Eadee on July 13, 2015, 11:16:12 PM
I chose that one too, and am about to create a Trader usergroup and throw Eadee in.I feel obliged to make some more sales now xD
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 13, 2015, 11:34:04 PM
I'm throwing Gamera in, too...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
-Come to think of it, I'm sure I can find where the shop icons go on the server, and no problem making something better that doesn't look like a tombstone. (Oooh. I got four rocks that look like tombstones; time to go Gift the one I bought from the shop to Uno...)
Post by: Valka on July 14, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
What does this mysterious rock look like?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2015, 02:52:44 PM
Post by: Dio on July 14, 2015, 05:55:05 PM
Interesting note - unlike the Rock, you can use up the Beer. ;lol It's got a test text that needed changing to something like "It slides, delicious and refreshing, down your throat; life is good." Thank you, Mr. Modder, for the refreshment.A even better question is why the random money item looks a stuffed bear. Where does the money come from? Does the stuffed bear represent a pinata? I think if I ever buy another one of those items that I should start blindfolding myself and purchasing a build-a-bear kit.
-Come to think of it, I'm sure I can find where the shop icons go on the server, and no problem making something better that doesn't look like a tombstone. (Oooh. I got four rocks that look like tombstones; time to go Gift the one I bought from the shop to Uno...)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2015, 06:03:46 PM
Random Money is a total suckers' game, BTW - the odds would only be even if it was FREE, and 75ec says only suckers even consider it for long.
I wish I was stronger with the tech and had access to editing the Games Room to get rid of the games too easy to win, so we could re-enable it... Games Room Pass for 7 days at 10ec is far and away the best value in the Shop, if only it wasn't economy-breaking and therefore turned off.
Post by: Dio on July 14, 2015, 06:07:45 PM
I'll look for a better Icon for that - or make one; a roulette wheel would be good if it looked like one at 32x.I am painfully aware of the poor odds for the Random Money Item. The last part of my post was in reference to how you could create your own custom bear to smash as a pinata.
Random Money is a total suckers' game, BTW - the odds would only be even if it was FREE, and 75ec says only suckers even consider it for long.
I wish I was stronger with the tech and had access to editing the Games Room to get rid of the games too easy to win, so we could re-enable it... Games Room Pass for 7 days at 10ec is far and away the best value in the Shop, if only it wasn't economy-breaking and therefore turned off.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 14, 2015, 06:41:01 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 02:21:14 AM
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=16644.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=16644.0)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 03:25:49 AM
Post by: Eadee on July 15, 2015, 08:13:24 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
SO - now that I can upload item icons, all I have in mind to still create is a trophy/bouquet thing priced around 100/200ec for REALLY appreciating someone w/ Gifting - maybe even 500ec, but I'm trying to think practically on the useless Shop items and keep prices more in reach.
BUT - any ideas for does-nothing items? We can do use-up-able and truly does nothing, with only a 32x .gif icon and a name.
(I'm going to look around and see if I can find the .php scripts for the use-up-able items in the Themes admin interface, which is where Shop stuff seems to go - the "This is a test item" line when you use one ought to be in plain English, if only I can find what's what and edit...)
(Hmm. I see no one but my DL is using the Enterprise theme anymore, and someone is using The Killing, so I've changed the DL to that. The Shop item icons don't show in any of the other themes I've tried, and I can't find a place to upload them in the other themes...)
Admin Action: You suck, Buncle. I had to correct a typo in your post. STOP SUCKING. ;modban
Post by: BU Admin on July 15, 2015, 03:07:56 PM
Post by: Valka on July 15, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
I just changed some more icons for the better, and created Coffee for gwillybj. I also enabled Steal Some Money, but costing 1,000ec so caveat emptor. Items that DO anything, especially someone else, should be prohibitively expensive. ;nod
SO - now that I can upload item icons, all I have in mind to still create is a trophy/bouquet thing priced around 100/200ec for REALLY appreciating someone w/ Gifting - maybe even 500ec, but I'm trying to think practically on the useless Shop items and keep prices more in reach.
BUT - any ideas for does-nothing items? We can do use-up-able and truly does nothing, with only a 32x .gif icon and a name.
(I'm going to look around and see if I can find the .php scripts for the use-up-able items in the Themes admin interface, which is where Shop stuff seems to go - the "This is a test item" line when you use one ought to be in plain English, if only I can find what's what and edit...)
(Hmm. I see no one but my DL is using the Enterprise theme anymore, and someone is using The Killing, so I've changed the DL to that. The Shop item icons don't show in any of the other themes I've tried, and I can't find a place to upload them in the other themes...)
Admin Action: You suck, Buncle. I had to correct a typo in your post. STOP SUCKING. ;modban
Here's a flower I use on my forums. It's not a bouquet, but it is small, elegant, and I've yet to see anyone displeased by it:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/bloom.gif)
Other possibilities:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/puppies.gif) Because there are times when people just need some cute puppies.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/Ogopogo.gif) Ogopogo is a freshwater sea monster similar to Nessie, but lives in Okanagan Lake in British Columbia. There are statues and sculptures of Ogopogo all over the Okanagan region, and I remember one where people could sit on his nose (I've got a picture of me doing that when I was about 4 or so). What does Ogopogo do? Basically hide, but as sea monsters go, he's pretty cute.
As for the Enterprise theme, I'm using that, so I don't understand why you think it's not being used. I've used it consistently ever since you installed it.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
I wish I knew how to make the Shop icons show in the other themes - I specifically had you in mind for the flower. You should switch back to default temporarily and have a look.
Post by: Dio on July 15, 2015, 04:37:34 PM
I just changed some more icons for the better, and created Coffee for gwillybj. I also enabled Steal Some Money, but costing 1,000ec so caveat emptor. Items that DO anything, especially someone else, should be prohibitively expensive. ;nodIn other words, the cost of the item exceeds the number of energy credits that you can steal ??? .
SO - now that I can upload item icons, all I have in mind to still create is a trophy/bouquet thing priced around 100/200ec for REALLY appreciating someone w/ Gifting - maybe even 500ec, but I'm trying to think practically on the useless Shop items and keep prices more in reach.
BUT - any ideas for does-nothing items? We can do use-up-able and truly does nothing, with only a 32x .gif icon and a name.
(I'm going to look around and see if I can find the .php scripts for the use-up-able items in the Themes admin interface, which is where Shop stuff seems to go - the "This is a test item" line when you use one ought to be in plain English, if only I can find what's what and edit...)
(Hmm. I see no one but my DL is using the Enterprise theme anymore, and someone is using The Killing, so I've changed the DL to that. The Shop item icons don't show in any of the other themes I've tried, and I can't find a place to upload them in the other themes...)
Admin Action: You suck, Buncle. I had to correct a typo in your post. STOP SUCKING. ;modban
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 04:54:13 PM
I guess I better bring my DL back up, give it 1,000ec and buy one to test stealing from this identity...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 05:22:01 PM
Lunch; brb.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 05:22:17 PM
and someone is using The Killing, [/color]
Sorry, it's a small thing to change back to default...
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
No need - use it. I've just uploaded some images so you can see the new usergroup icons.and someone is using The Killing, [/color]
Sorry, it's a small thing to change back to default...
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
Only works on cash in hand btw.
Scenario 1: Steal from BUncle:
Started ~1700 cash.
Steal 700ish End 1400 cash. (stealing item priced at 1k)
Scenario 2: Steal from Feed Bot (will return if they are around)
Steal 1400, end 1800 cash.
Both times around 40% of what the person had on hand.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 05:51:11 PM
I had about 980 in-pocket before lunch, and you were in the top ten for cash on hand. You've been to the Bank with your stolen money, haven't you?
Well, if you made a profit, great. Dio's assumption tested, I didn't have to, and it's possible to profit if you scratch up 1,000ec and target sufficiently deep pockets.
P.S. Feedbot is a bot - no feelings to hurt and disabled, anyway.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
I thought it said you have 1500ish when I stole from you. If you had 900, that was a decent chunk, and sufficiently random. FeedBot had 3400 or so when I stole from him.
Did you get notified?
I did refrain from cleaning out the rest of the top cash on hand folk, mind you.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 06:09:49 PM
Attn: Uno and Valka - I figured out how to make the Shop images display on other themes, BTW. :danc: It's not even a big pain, just a little slow; I downloaded the entire folders in question and uploaded them into the /images folder in each theme, creating the filepath that was missing.
More available on request should anyone use other themes - Eadee's going to go through the themes this weekend and choose 10 to keep, and I strongly recommend others doing the same before I start deleting useless themes.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 06:18:52 PM
There's absolutely no reason to walk around with cash on hand. Having one earn interest but be vulnerable to theft, and one safe but no interest makes more sense to me.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2015, 06:20:14 PM
[shrugs] No, no notification. I would have noticed I'd lost roughly 700ec in-pocket soon enough, but you decently owned it here.
You did say you wanted testing.
Post by: Eadee on July 15, 2015, 06:23:52 PM
I like your attitude :D[shrugs] No, no notification. I would have noticed I'd lost roughly 700ec in-pocket soon enough, but you decently owned it here.
You did say you wanted testing.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
I painted a big target on my back and went to lunch.
Post by: Valka on July 15, 2015, 08:51:23 PM
I don't get why the Theme display doesn't admit but one user when I was looking from an account using that theme...Okay, I switched back, now where do I look?
I wish I knew how to make the Shop icons show in the other themes - I specifically had you in mind for the flower. You should switch back to default temporarily and have a look.
(I'm going back to Enterprise when I've had the look, because that one is the one most relaxing for my eyes)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 08:53:08 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 11:03:34 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
Uno, there's something new for you in the Shhoooppp.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2015, 03:34:09 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2015, 05:46:04 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2015, 09:12:55 PM
Is there any reason I shouldn't double the EC for posting everywhere forum-wide to make more fake forum money available to encourage fake forum money shenanigans and thereby increase the motivation for posting as intended? EC only have value if they're useful for something, which I've made some cheap-if-don't-do-anything Shop items towards addressing...
Mo' (fake forum) money, mo' (fake forum) money, mo' (fake forum) money?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 16, 2015, 09:18:38 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Uno, there's something new for you in the Shhoooppp.
Does it do something?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
What more could you possibly want?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 01:59:50 AM
;nod That's roughly it...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
Alas, items already bought and in someone's possession will not alter, but future ones will not tell you they are a test item.
-Also, two new items to go up as soon as I can upload; thanks to Mylochka for one of the ideas.
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 17, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
Glad you approve. I owe you for getting me interested in learning how to do some basic crap. Much can be done with labels and icons.
Still want your participation. Have missed you. Bad/busy week?
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 17, 2015, 09:00:48 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Always busy, housewarming party this weekend and I've got an engagement ring for my girlfriend...;b;
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 12:48:17 AM
-Stands to reason that more affluence to buy useless shop items will increase interest in making enough EC...
Folks, I do have four good ones in the pike for when my tech guys stop screwing me over and I don't have to end up doing it twice. I also figured out a rationale to restore and old one that did something but I'd deleted for being useless under our settings...
(I just made 2ec for a Rec Commons post...)
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 12:45:13 PM
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 12:45:38 PM
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
Post by: Eadee on July 18, 2015, 01:34:33 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 02:11:00 PM
Check the Shop, y'all. I been busy.
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
Post by: Geo on July 18, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 03:06:10 PM
There's considerable new stuff ready to go up once I can upload the .php scripts...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 08:11:16 PM
"View Inventory
Send EC/Gift"
lines back- but I'm going to leave it for now, and see what feedback I get. I can limit how many items display...
I've been enabled on the server issue now - look for developments in the Shop very soon; I did most of the work already while I was waiting yesterday....
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
Supper; brb.
Post by: Dio on July 19, 2015, 01:03:09 AM
Okay - I forgot to resize two icons, but they look so much better at original size I may re-do everything to date.;b; I like the changes you have made so far in the shop.
Supper; brb.
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!Spamming is generally wrong.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 01:08:30 AM
Thanks for the good word. I'm working hard (there's some bits I have to change on yesterday's work to work and I'm having to go through the scripts one at a time to make sure they're okay) and it's very good to hear that it's appreciated.
More goodies to come...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 02:24:56 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 02:32:50 AM
Thanks to Valka for the idea.
Post by: Mart on July 19, 2015, 03:05:11 AM
How about, they will be very limited, maybe even only one available of each kind?
They will be very rare items. Then we would have smaller bases in larger quantity and maybe those smallest ones in most abundance?
Post by: BU Admin on July 19, 2015, 03:24:34 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 04:08:11 AM
Slightly more trouble to make and upload smaller versions of the bases, but I can do that. They all run off the same script, so easy enough to make once the icons are available, so I'll do up the stage one bases for each faction, reverting to the generic names "Gaian Base", etc., and put those up tonight or early tomorrow for - €50, you say?
...You realize that we want to do up a set with Tachyon Shields raised for the real premium, right? Make them €5,000. (The €1,000 for the ones in place could be changed easily enough - if you have some reward deally in mind, I could make one of each at €0 for as long as it takes me to buy them all up for future Gifting purposes...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 06:59:14 AM
Mart, I have indeed put up stage one bases for each faction at €50.
I got a selection of seven up in Spirtual (or not), which I think will be reverent to believers, but I managed to slip three jokes in, too.
Two new items in Café/Gift, and put a Forum Shenanigans item back with a new appropriate icon.
Now, crank out a little job for Geo that's waited all day and I can go to bed. Boy, am I tired.
Post by: Geo on July 19, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
Spamming is generally wrong.
Call it poetic justice for the occasional changes our administrator puts this account through.
BUncle, what's up with the base shop items? Does it only display on ones item list (where your rocks and puppy show), or does it something else?
Post by: Eadee on July 19, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 02:11:52 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 04:34:23 PM
What about a AC leaders category? How about the bases not all having the same joke in the description?
(I'm not willing to customize the base use message joke, but the names and descriptions are easy to customize in the admin interface, and the use joke works pretty well w/o description setup - also, I made icons of stage four Tachyon Shield bases while I was knocking out the stage one €50 ones late last night and uploaded - easy to put up and rename-redescribe w/o any editing anything in Notepad and having to upload to the server.)
Also note that I improved the Rock and Puppy icons this morning - new icon requests would be convenient today while I've got FileZillah open and on the right folder(s).
Check out the Shop, y'all - heckuva lotta useless items added, three new categories, and everything works in the three themes anyone's using. -It's looking pretty spiffy.
Post by: Mart on July 19, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 04:52:12 PM
Mithras costs, too, and the Uno religion costs a cursory and off-base-10-thinking €27ec.
Post by: Mart on July 19, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Post by: Eadee on July 19, 2015, 05:38:23 PM
Check out the Shop, y'all - heckuva lotta useless items added, three new categories, and everything works in the three themes anyone's using. -It's looking pretty spiffy.
Useless items you say?!
(http://wallpaper.pickywallpapers.com/800x600/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 05:52:51 PM
Hope you made that next Bank deposit to get your account at €811+, drawing daily interest. ;nod
Post by: Eadee on July 19, 2015, 07:45:46 PM
Wich makes sense since 733 EC * 0,000811 equals 0,594463 EC and should be rounded up ;morgan; ;morgan; ;morgan; ;morgan; ;morgan; ;morgan; ;morgan;
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
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Post by: Metaliturtle on July 19, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
The spam industry prospers. ;nod
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 19, 2015, 10:46:03 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2015, 10:49:21 PM
It took enough work...
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Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
I'm just hanging out here on the monkey bars.Does yer woo-man know you trawlin' fo' some monkey stuff?
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 20, 2015, 12:01:50 AM
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Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 01:28:06 AM
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 01:38:33 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 01:39:26 AM
Perhaps you should make a thyrsus, also known as a thyrsos, icon.What am I going to find when I google that?
The religious items provide a useful source of information about the individuals who bought them.Mart just snapped up all the free ones, I think.
[shrugs] I was just thinking about the big Christians - and then I thought about fairness, and then I thought of a few jokes. The living religions ones are joke-free, and why haven't you gotten one?
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 01:46:36 AM
What am I going to find when I google that?Thyrsus: A staff of giant fennel always wrapped in ivy vines and leaves with a pine cone on the end. This general definition can include various additional features depending upon the context.The religious items provide a useful source of information about the individuals who bought them.[shrugs] I was just thinking about the big Christians - and then I thought about fairness, and then I thought of a few jokes. The living religions ones are joke-free, and why haven't you gotten one?
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 01:50:47 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 01:51:45 AM
Well, I've got another icon uploaded earlier today with Spiritual in mind, so let's see if I can't work that in, too.
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 03:09:04 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 03:24:22 AM
What I NEED is all the leaderheads cropped like the smiles, transparent backgrounds, 40x .gifs...
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 03:40:23 AM
What remainder? Have you not noticed that section runs three pages?I guess I missed the additional pages. Something in a similiar maner as this ??? .
What I NEED is all the leaderheads cropped like the smiles, transparent backgrounds, 40x .gifs...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 04:25:53 AM
Actually, if the work's already done, I'll take that as long as they're all consistent...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
;lol I love my job, sometimes. ;lol
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 05:19:13 AM
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 05:19:51 AM
I've added Thyrsus, (with thanks to Dio[nysus]) and The Mouse That Roared.Thank you, BUncle.
;lol I love my job, sometimes. ;lol
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 05:36:40 AM
The original seven leader heads are ready.;b; this set is full of win.
Post by: Dio on July 20, 2015, 06:35:05 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 06:40:03 AM
I'm gonna create the category, and put up the 1st seven - IF the script goes through on the first try. The Xers, I'll get to tomorrow.
Post by: BU Admin on July 20, 2015, 06:57:39 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 01:48:32 PM
I think I need to 1.) Add full names and leader titles, and 2.) like with the bases, need to customize the descriptions; I'll take member input on customized descriptions, in fact, I'm not going to do any of it without input...
Post by: Valka on July 20, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
Why doesn't "There is no god?" Atheism isn't a religion, but it's also not a joke.
Unless you meant this as indicating some other thing...?
Okay, I have a few more questions:
Some kind of beverage for those of us who don't drink either alcohol or coffee?
Sometimes people just need a cute kitteh, too.
I can has cheezburger? (the hamburger seems to be lacking cheese...)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
A belief that there's nothing is, QED, a religious belief, but I've never heard an atheist admit it. If some do, I'll classify it a religion and cost it at €0 like the religions, QED.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 05:58:20 PM
Post by: Valka on July 20, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
I have had thoughts along the same line as the last, Mylochka just told me to make you a kitten at breakfast, and I'll whip up a soda today.Incoming PM. I'm not going to hijack the thread to argue about this here, but I've got some very strong concerns on this issue.
A belief that there's nothing is, QED, a religious belief, but I've never heard an atheist admit it. If some do, I'll classify it a religion and cost it at €0 like the religions, QED.
Thank you for the kitten and soda, though. :)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
The burger now has cheese, I limited how many items show in postbits, 4, to keep post-length-related scrolling reasonable (and fixed up the Trophy to something more reasonable yesterday, same reason) and the leaderheads all have full names ('cept Domai) and proper titles displaying (not that I think Brother is Lal's proper title, which ought to be Secretary-General).
Also, Draz was good enough to make a version of the Mogen David display the Shema Yisael in Hebrew in the use message properly, so I have replaced and gifted replacements to the three previous owners.
Now to add an item to the gift shop and then google an icon and make a script for the next...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2015, 09:41:50 PM
After I cook supper. brb
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 02:28:17 AM
Grilling supper took too long, and then the innerwebs connection gave out for a couple hours. Now to search for a gift shop icon...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 04:07:24 AM
Would y'all rather I used the cup for a milkshake? Does Birthday Cake go with the consumable food/drinks, being food, or the gifts, as I created it intending?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 06:30:34 AM
Also a new icon on the Bases category.
And so to bed.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 02:54:48 PM
While I'm in there, I reckon I'll try to track down the scripts for the Games Room and try to see how the games work and how I might re-jigger the games to have even odds instead of being so profitable, as I Have No Name discovered, to my regret, in the very early day of the Shop - I'd like to re-enable the Games Room Pass and provide what entertainment value the games can provide.
Finally, I've heard from another person who didn't realize that there are three pages of bases and only saw the big expensive ones and declined to scroll down. (Do something to the category name and rename a little one to top the list - they display in reverse alphabetical order, for some reason.)
Post by: Geo on July 21, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 04:54:08 PM
Really; a whim I can change if there's sufficient demand - since its in my postbit, convenient to copy/paste w/o bothering entering a special character; also, it's a modified E, and that fits EC well.
Post by: Eadee on July 21, 2015, 05:34:32 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 06:13:14 PM
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BTW - The Trophy in my postbit was Gifted to me. I intended the item as a thanks/recognition Gift, not something for self-aggrandizement, though, now that I have it, I do hit (use item) when I'm in my Inventory and enjoy the ego-boo.
Post by: Dio on July 21, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
It shows up fine in IE and Chrome.
I'll add a (2 pages) to the name of the Leaders section.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 07:26:32 PM
-Also checked all three themes anyone's using in Chrome to be thorough. Saw the page numbers just fine.
Post by: Eadee on July 21, 2015, 07:32:04 PM
Got no problems with the pages at all.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
I have Chrome because it downloaded itself; I'd deleted Firefox for the same obnoxious offense before we started here. I need to download Firefox on purpose three years ago, for checking/confirming purposes. Today will have to do.
Post by: Dio on July 21, 2015, 08:17:31 PM
We have an unfortunate history with Firefox not playing well with SMF forums software, mostly album picture displays - it seems to have since self-corrected; sisko was never able to track it down, not for lack of trying.It appears as though the shop shows the page numbers normally on Firefox, but does not show on Internet Explorer.
I have Chrome because it downloaded itself; I'd deleted Firefox for the same obnoxious offense before we started here. I need to download Firefox on purpose three years ago, for checking/confirming purposes. Today will have to do.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2015, 08:23:42 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 22, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
Now to post a random album image to make sure I can see it as a lurker in Firefox...
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=949)
Crap. I can't. $#@! -Where's the dang refresh button in FF? Hmm. Found it. No joy. Not a lot of luck seeing anything in the Masks thread, either. Maybe I can fix a view setting. $#@! Nothing but links for attachments. I need to log out in Chrome so I can log in in FF. $#@!
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 22, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
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Valka, I added clarification to the atheism item description and reduced the price somewhat. Have a look.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2015, 04:00:38 PM
And until I figure out how to tackle the Games Room problem -need tech d00dz guidance again- and maybe the related, but non-shop problem of other games we've tried before and sisko disabled, I'm pretty much wrapped up on the Shop for now, absent member suggestions and requests.
Mylochka has an idea for pop-culture icons, like some Star Trek stuff she specifically suggested. What say the peanut gallery/jury on those lines? There could be no end to it, which I'd rather avoid, but what ten things like an Enterprise and the Tardis (and geek-beloved characters) would we like? What ought the names and descriptions and use messages and prices be? Do we cut off at ten or go to more than one page for the section and work me really hard?
Post by: Valka on July 23, 2015, 09:58:50 PM
I'm reminded of a smiley site I subscribe to (yes, I pay for access to the entire site, as there's an incredible amount of stuff there and it's constantly being added to)... there is a science fiction section that includes some Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, generic SF stuff (like an adorable little alien in a flying saucer)...
The idea, though is how to relate it to our own specific forum culture here, correct?
We have dedicated Star Trek and Doctor Who threads, so a couple of things for each would be nice.
I'll give it some thought...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
We've got two sections devoted to SMACX stuff (and I could totally do another section or two in my sleep, like AC tech icons and/or Units [Mylochka has been saying to do a mindworm gift item], so that's covered just fine. (I wonder if I have to stop at 8 categories, or will it make another row?)
Nerds-love-it stuff, so Star Wars, of course, with the proviso that at MY place, there will NEVER be more Star Wars than Star Trek ANYthing, unlike every forum on the entire net that isn't a dedicated Trek site...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
Post by: Valka on July 23, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
Post by: DrazharLn on July 24, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2015, 01:46:12 PM
Post by: DrazharLn on July 24, 2015, 06:30:35 PM
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Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 05:09:04 AM
-I wonder about the feasibility of replacing the random number push-button crap with real games? ISTR the chess had some bug, but was serviceable enough that I played at least one game to conclusion against - was it NewAgeOfPower? We could use a few things like that, and ditch the crappy gambling...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 05:10:52 AM
Post by: Valka on July 25, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
I found one of the websites where the Dune icons are, and while the sandworm isn't there (at least not the animated version I remember), there is a nice little pile of melange, a crysknife, etc.
What is this Game room? Is it where there are games people can play and compete against others if they want?
I used to belong to a graphics forum where the owner had one of these set up and it was a blast. Yes, Hangaroo is a hoot when you've got someone to compete against, and there were a few others I really enjoyed.
Post by: Eadee on July 25, 2015, 10:03:22 AM
Kirk and Spock are great... but what about a tribble?;b;
There has to be a tribble to buy!
Post by: Mart on July 25, 2015, 10:14:30 AM
Sisko, ... Odo? Bashir?
Janeway, Tuvok
Archer? ....?
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Locutus of Borg?
Post by: Geo on July 25, 2015, 10:52:01 AM
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Locutus of Borg?
We are the Shop. Trade Blockade is futile. You will be purchased. Your catalog and account balance will be added to our own.
Post by: Valka on July 25, 2015, 10:59:46 AM
Kirk and Spock are great... but what about a tribble?
;b;
There has to be a tribble to buy!
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/tribble.gif)
We are the Shop. Trade Blockade is futile. You will be purchased. Your catalog and account balance will be added to our own.
:D
Post by: Eadee on July 25, 2015, 11:33:45 AM
(buy only one and you're doomed)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Probably ought to throw in the Millennium Falcon and bun-head Leia. All versions of the Enterprise would look super dinky at that size, though.
Suggestions are great; img-linked samples are better, Valka.
No idea how to do that, Eadee.
Games would be a question of what could be found that's set up for SMF and works. I do think that if we could throw some nice single and two-player games in there to replace the button-pumping gambling that's there now, we'd have something
Post by: Valka on July 25, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
As for any TNG references, while I found Geo's post amusing, it won't bother me to keep this TNG-free.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
Post by: Valka on July 25, 2015, 01:15:30 PM
It's not a large image, but we use it on my Doctor Who forum. I've got one of a Tribble wearing a sombrero, as well (several years ago there was a running "sombrero" joke going around TrekBBS, so I made smileys of a borg and a tribble wearing sombreros).
EDIT: Here they are:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/sombrero-borg.gif)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/vox_stellaris/Smileys/tribble-wearing-sombrero.gif)
Post by: Mart on July 25, 2015, 02:26:03 PM
and then Defiant class, Akira class, etc.
Is it, that 50 items of a given type is the minimal number you can set in the shop?
Some classes could be less frequent, making them more valuable.
And spaceshuttle could be in abundance, cheap too.
How about Borg cube and some Borg spheres? Then some Borg special spaceships, that they make when they cannot build full cube. When small number of them is detached from collective.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 07:47:08 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 25, 2015, 11:38:43 PM
HE buys YOU. ;nod
-Pushed the flower to page two, though...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 26, 2015, 12:02:57 AM
The Trophy HAS been assimilated into page two.
Post by: Dio on July 26, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Okay. Realized that I already had a Borg cube pic perfect for our needs from a custom faction over six years ago, so skipped the googling and had up a cube in the Gift Shop in just a few minutes.The :1st: place trophy officially goes to . . .
The Trophy HAS been assimilated into page two.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
My inventory is now 6 pages long, and I get an error if I try to look past page 1.
....so I can't try to steal from you again BU, cause I can't get to my steal $ item..... Sitting with 11k in your wallet....
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
Give me a little while to wake up, an I'll tell you what to do about that.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:07:59 PM
So, you've spent somewhere north of 2,000ec to do that. ;lol What you need to do to is get rid of the superfluous (roughly 46) PRIMAL HORRORs. You can Gift them or Discard.
The latter will go a lot faster, but the former would be funnier...
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
Even if I filled a page full of non-duplicates, I wouldn't be able to go to page 2?
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:19:39 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:23:04 PM
Anyhow, only the first 4 items display. Is there a way to change the order?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:26:13 PM
46 PRIMAL HORRORs is four and 1/2 pages of inventory right there.
Make me an offer on what's left until you're down to 10 items, and I'll consider making your € loss good. I can keep some stuff in my DL's inventory to have for gifts and such.
You know, you can gift things that aren't on page one of your inventory...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
I don't know how to enter €, either, so I copy/paste form the nearest postbit. Geo told me how to enter it recently, but I just pasted the symbol from his post instead of learning how...
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:34:31 PM
But I DON'T WANT to discard down to 10 items. I want the 50 of them.
Presently, anything over 4 wont show. Let's say someone wanted to be funny put a birthday cake on someone for their birthday. So, they gift out a birthday cake. Right now, it would NOT DISPLAY unless the receiver goes and deletes enough items in front of that cake to make it display.
We either need to reverse the order, making the newest items show, or come up with a means to allow the users to rearrange order. (preferrably both, honestly, so the gifting will show up.)
(I kinda want to "use" one as well just to see what happens, but don't want to lose it at the same time)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
Shall I restock?
I don't know that what you suggest can even be done. I certainly don't know how. Most people don't have 4 or more items. I can (temporarily) make the postbit display up to 20...
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:38:59 PM
Reversing the order so newest items are at the top, and thus show? Should be doable.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:49:27 PM
The links at the bottom are wrong. They have HTTP://addresshereblahbbla (http://HTTP://addresshereblahbbla) imortantparthere>;sa=inventory;next2=1;bunchmorestuff
Replacing the '1' with "Unorthodox" gets me to my stuffs.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:57:05 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Code: [Select]
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=shop;sa=inventory;next2=BUncleReplace the name at end with forumname to see.
Post by: Dio on July 31, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
But I DON'T WANT to discard down to 10 items. I want the 50 of them.Checking reality here. Most people on this forum do not have fifty items :-( ;-).
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 05:01:12 PM
Code: [Select]
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=shop;sa=inventory;next2=1;sort=0;start=10If I replace the 1 with Unorthdox it takes me to my page 2.
Code: [Select]
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=shop;sa=inventory;next2=Unorthodox;sort=0;start=10Forum seems to be case sensitive on the names.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 05:02:19 PM
But I DON'T WANT to discard down to 10 items. I want the 50 of them.Checking reality here. Most people on this forum do not have fifty items :-( ;-).
No, and I get that. But, come, say October 31, if I wanted to make everyone have a pumpkin show on the forum, it would be nice to be able to by gifting one to everyone. They could then go delete it if they want to get their original 4 items showing.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 05:08:14 PM
Post by: Dio on July 31, 2015, 05:09:39 PM
Here's the address for ANYONE'S Inventory:Code: [Select]http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=shop;sa=inventory;next2=BUncle
Replace the name at end with forumname to see.
*Shivers* Sisko has seven steal energy credit items in his inventory :o.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2015, 05:13:22 PM
I can make birthday cakes/PRIMAL HORRORs display for a day up to 20 items...
Not sure what you're meaning.
I'd just like it to SHOW up when you gift to someone. They are free to go delete it. Right now, if I gift you a horror (or you gift me anything) it won't show up on the forum because we've filled our 4 slots, and the inventory shoves the newest to the bottom. I'm asking if it can shove the newest to the TOP slot. Thus, if I buy something new, it'll show. If someone gifts me something, it'll show. etc. Now, if I don't like what you gifted me, I can go delete it and we're back to what I set.
See what I'm saying? I don't want to show 20 of them. I want to be able to gift them around later, and have EVERYONE have one.
edit: If you're saying I "use" the item, and like the stealing item then select a member to use it ON, then it would display the icon instead of their store items for a day, that's totally awesome too.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 05:53:57 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Post by: Dio on July 31, 2015, 07:32:49 PM
Restock PRIMAL HORROR or not?I say no in response to this poll ;no.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 05, 2015, 02:49:21 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2015, 03:18:27 AM
Which reminds me -
Restock PRIMAL HORROR or notUNO?
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 05, 2015, 04:51:15 AM
And you are. :D ;nod :D OF COURSE I made the rat worship Item with you in mind...
8)Thank You! :D
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2015, 04:58:49 AM
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 05, 2015, 05:26:13 AM
Post by: Unorthodox on August 05, 2015, 01:18:00 PM
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 05, 2015, 05:24:48 PM
Why would I want you to restock? Think I want to buy MORE?
Maybe if they were bifurcated...
Post by: Dio on August 06, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
Why would I want you to restock? Think I want to buy MORE?It has become apparent to me that his purchasing of these items has become an obsession ::). Why else would he have bought fifty copies of an item?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2015, 02:16:41 PM
Eadee has HORROR-blocked him. :D
Post by: Eadee on August 06, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
It was only 49.
Eadee has HORROR-blocked him. :D
Only so it can be horror for uno too. ;)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2015, 02:53:48 PM
PRIMAL. ;)It was only 49.
Eadee has HORROR-blocked him. :D
Only so it can be horror for uno too. ;)
Post by: Eadee on August 06, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
I should've bought two... then it would be a prime number :oPRIMAL. ;)It was only 49.
Eadee has HORROR-blocked him. :D
Only so it can be horror for uno too. ;)
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2015, 06:41:00 PM
Why would I want you to restock? Think I want to buy MORE?It has become apparent to me that his purchasing of these items has become an obsession ::). Why else would he have bought fifty copies of an item?
Muahahahaha! Just for that you get a pumpkin!
I was HOPING to be able to do that to EVERYONE at a time of my choosing. ;uno But, it won't work on anyone with over 4 items. :(
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
Post by: Dio on August 07, 2015, 03:46:25 AM
I have successfully passed on the cursed item to another individual :relief: :stickpoke: >:) ;buttdance.Why would I want you to restock? Think I want to buy MORE?It has become apparent to me that his purchasing of these items has become an obsession ::). Why else would he have bought fifty copies of an item?
Muahahahaha! Just for that you get a pumpkin!
I was HOPING to be able to do that to EVERYONE at a time of my choosing. ;uno But, it won't work on anyone with over 4 items. :(
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 07, 2015, 11:39:31 PM
Easy as anything after all this theme code tweaking.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2015, 02:44:58 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2015, 09:09:53 PM
What forum manager was just seen out on the town adding a new Item to the Fan Faves section of AC2's Shop?
What character beloved by millions has been observed canoodling with his vehicle all over the galaxy?
Who is responsible for BU having saved the art the Item was based on today, almost two years ago, only to stumble over it while working on a theme and get inspired today?
-Why am I writing like this?
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Post by: Eadee on August 08, 2015, 10:09:35 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2015, 11:22:05 PM
Post by: Eadee on August 09, 2015, 12:22:22 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 09, 2015, 12:26:57 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2015, 02:27:40 PM
Post by: Mart on August 14, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Post by: Mart on August 14, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
Image 7, (from top, they are numbered)
like with a mechanism inside. just an idea from googling, but this one is quite good.
Unless you like something else. Google in images have some other ideas.
Post by: Mart on August 14, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
certificate of truth and pure intentions.
Now, seeing a player in MP having both, or one of them in items, would make his/her opponents wonder what does that mean.
Does a loaded dice mean someone's intention to cheat? or it's merely a gadget.
Does a certificate of truth and pure intention really that? Or it is there to hide something... :D
And both? A smoke screen?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
[Ninja'd] We could do a certificate Item if you find me an image that looks like anything at no more than 40 pixels tall...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2015, 04:32:01 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2015, 03:17:05 AM
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2015, 06:07:50 PM
But yes, it works. The games pass is a pretty good buy, you know, at only €10 for a week; that's five posts, not tough to do in a week.
Post by: Mart on August 25, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
There goes my "trick" for easy EC... :)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Post by: Mart on August 25, 2015, 07:54:02 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
I suppose I could knock 75 off the losing limit and make odds even. I'll do that, in fact.
Post by: Mart on August 25, 2015, 08:43:14 PM
The way I imagine it, two forum members would need to cooperate.
And it would not work, if you can have negative balance in your bank.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2015, 09:42:05 PM
...Then it would be free money...
I suppose I could knock 75 off the losing limit and make odds even. I'll do that, in fact.
It still wouldn't be even. You need to roll a +75 to break even.
You start out at -75 for buying it. Adjusting for that, the old odds were +115 to -265. (+190 to -190) - 75 purchase.
Knocking the 75 off the bottom end makes the odds +115 to -190. Still not good.
Shifting the odds to +265 to - 115 would give you the +190 to -190 net odds after purchase. Or you could lower the price of it to make the adjustment as well.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2015, 09:47:10 PM
I don't get where a partner comes into it,
I gift Mart all my money.
Mart gifts me a random money. (or if it's not giftable, I keep 75 to buy one, or I buy umpteen thousand of them beforehand.)
I play, gift him the winnings. Assuming the economy cannot handle negative moneys, so I can't "go in the hole" thus increasing the odds to significantly better than even. +190 to 0 at present odds. Still have to roll a 75 to "win", but it's about a 65% payback then. Again, assuming no negatives allowed.
Edit: did the maths, it's a 61% odds of return.
If the odds are adjusted to true 50% odds above, the odds of this partner system paying would balloon to 72%.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
Those aren't CURRENT amounts. Don't know how often it updates precisely.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2015, 10:15:44 PM
I put the parameters to -115 to +190. I believe the odds math works. You'll find that you CAN go into negative € - that's one of the things that was broken about the Games Room; the (lame - it's just a picture of dice and a button) dice games are definitely in the player's favor, but when I was testing, I went over €2,000 in the hole before I saw a profit. So no use having a partner.
Post by: Mart on August 26, 2015, 11:00:19 PM
But if bank can keep negative balances, then it will not work.
Having on average zero winnings would be worth the try, but that would be more like:
We pay 75 EC first, this is our "zero"
we win 75, we are at zero.
We win 190, we are + 115.
So in order to be - 115, that makes lower limit -40.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2015, 11:27:32 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2015, 04:56:57 AM
There's an official file, lets leave it at that for now.
The Math SHOULD be (odds) - cost = winnings.
So, if you WANT the potential winnings to be +190 to -190, you have to adjust BOTH the up and down by the 75 cost, thus sliding THE ENTIRE RANGE +75 to cover the cost.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2015, 05:15:55 AM
Done.
Post by: Mart on September 05, 2015, 01:52:39 PM
Do we have any chance on having "loosing slot machines?" The way, I have read, they do in casinos in Nevada?
I guess, you may have heard about it?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
Post by: Mart on September 05, 2015, 02:08:06 PM
Presently, -115 to +265 with cost 75 it gives on average 0.
Loosing slot machine, or similar gambling machine, may have tweaked chances. Usually they are set to give some percentage back to the player and it is less than 100%, so that casino may earn from it. Occasionally though, they may set it to more than 100% in order to promote gambling. This promotion is actually more of playing with people's psychic. Not a very noble thing to do. But anyway, this is gambling.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 05, 2015, 02:18:45 PM
EARN your fake money. POST. It's the whole point of the thing. ;)
Post by: Mart on September 05, 2015, 02:24:51 PM
Post by: Mart on September 13, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
...wish we had Blackjack :)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
The negative money thing would have to be fixed first, and with even odds there is zero point to the thing, no entertainment value being involved. Do we want to even waste the effort of asking Draz to fix and reinstate?
I will if you want.
(-Probably better to find some other SMF-compatible gambling games with a little pizazz, if there are any -but nothing too elaborate weighing down the server performance- and if you want to google for some, I guess we can consider them...)
Post by: Mart on September 13, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
It would be different, if, let's say, it was as simple as flipping a switch in the "settings" screen.
I just make a small talk here... :)
I play occasionally Port Royale 2. There is this game of ... I forgot. It is a card game, where with a little of strategy you can win more often.
I mentioned Blackjack, since some people, as I know, consider it the best chances game for winning if you do not have these special autistic skills, for which they quickly throw you out of a casino :D
And, of course, if the dealer is not a cheat :D.
And that brings me an idea for a vacations 2159 location...
I think about, how these fake money could be brought into more meaning. Trading games are also my favourite (English spelling ?) like Patrician 3, for example.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2015, 05:38:26 PM
Morgan is definitely your best bet for having a casino, of course. I don't notice any misspellings.
Post by: Mart on September 19, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
That's improvement! ;b;
I start to having hope for winning a 1 EC! :D
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 05:17:43 PM
Sorry to be boring about it. ;)
Post by: Mart on September 19, 2015, 09:30:35 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
That makes me wish we did have a card game you could
Post by: Mart on September 19, 2015, 09:41:34 PM
I spent 75 EC for buying "random money"
then used it, and got info about winning 50 EC.
I should say "winning" cause effectively I lost 25 EC.
Winning 75 EC is zero gain.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 09:51:32 PM
SMF has a user karma option we've never enabled - I think it works like upvoting/downvoting, and I don't know if that's a can of worms wise to open. There's a "Buy Karma" item I retired because it didn't DO anything here - it was the main inspiration for the spiritual category in the Shop, though, even though I decided I couldn't work it in.
Think I ought to put up a little information and let the community decide if we give Karma a trial run? I'm ALL FOR the bells and whistles if they create more general entertainment and increase happiness more than otherwise...
Post by: Mart on September 19, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
Personally, I prefer more sophisticated games, like SMACX for example. Chess is too boring for me, though I know, mathematically it has its diverse paths you can follow, etc. I was never an arcade game player that much. Or other similar simple games. I can occasionally play slot machines in a casino, but that too was never my favourite.
So anyway. I think it will be difficult to make the fake money real hit on this forum. It has also its drawbacks.
I have some quite ambitious idea in mind, but if that is going to be reality in some future - time will tell.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
Post by: Mart on September 19, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
Some years ago I wrote similar game in Visual Basic (trading game), so I know it is possible. But it will take time. So I prefer to wait until I actually have some working prototype of pre-alpha.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 19, 2015, 11:34:13 PM
I LOVE the sound of that. LOVE IT!
(If that's not what you had in mind, could it be?)
Post by: Mart on September 20, 2015, 12:23:28 AM
Usually in such games you build your fortune, so if we translate EC 1:1, that might give too much to the players. But then, some decent system of awards could be agreed upon.
The drawback is, that if there is no "in-forum" mechanism, each game would need to be manually served: forum staff would need to make EC changes on forum members accounts.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 12:33:42 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 12:36:18 AM
Post by: Mart on September 20, 2015, 01:50:01 AM
So you mean, that it would be easy to do such adjustments? Not much work?
The game would be trading, but with time (versions) it could be upgraded with features. Trading alone is getting boring quickly. The best is to add some adventure element to it.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 20, 2015, 01:57:15 AM
Yes; easy, not much time/work -under a minute- and eager support from me, who spends 16 hours a day on the boards, and loves the idea of any SMACX-adjacent entertainment we can generate for the membership. Having a good time is our business at AC2.
Throwing in some imaginary forum money by changing a number? I have time, might give me something else to do worth doing, and it adds to our fake forum economy. Pure win-win.
We can always do something with useless Shop items just for the game. There's room for another category, and I'll tell you what I can and can't do with them as you come up with ideas. That could even be the form the by-in takes..
Post by: Mart on September 24, 2015, 11:37:11 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 03:13:13 PM
I'll see to it he sees this...
Post by: Dio on September 24, 2015, 03:54:33 PM
Draz said something recently about most every browser having Java blocked or something these days. Wouldn't that be a problem?I imagine it might have something to do with the proliferation of malware.
I'll see to it he sees this...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2015, 04:01:36 PM
Post by: Mart on September 24, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
After all, Java may be a better choice.
Post by: DrazharLn on September 25, 2015, 12:04:01 AM
To guard against it, the relevant parts of the game code could be run on the server or the javascript could be obfuscated.
If a game is made and people want it installed I can see about integrating it with the existing forum money system - shouldn't be too hard.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 25, 2015, 12:08:12 AM
Post by: Valka on September 25, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
The guy hosting it went MIA two turns before we would have finished the game, so I have no idea how it would have turned out (well, I'd have likely come in dead last, since Crete is not a good Civilization for either a novice or a player as rusty as I was to take on), but I'd have liked to finally at least get Illyria off my islands and see who would have won.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2015, 05:44:48 AM
Speaking of no religion and item shop, BU... and not meaning to derail.(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4012.0;attach=16582;image)
Your no religion icon is wrong. The in chic deal for forums a few years ago was the scarlet A. It was started by Richard Dawkins and crew.
Comments, peanut gallery?
(I think Dawkins is a jerk, but that's irrelevant to my thinking that no icon is more appropriate to a belief that there's nothing. Doesn't that make sense?)
Post by: Green1 on September 26, 2015, 05:56:01 AM
It comes from The Scarlet Letter where a lady was ostracized for adultery and forced to wear a letter, even though she was a good person. Dawkins and crew encouraged all folks to put a Scarlet A on their forums in honor of atheists and agnostics who were also good people but ostracized. In many cases losing jobs or families. (of course, implied with a link to his web site. But oh well.) It caught on and was a fad.
Post by: Green1 on September 26, 2015, 06:00:42 AM
Post by: Green1 on September 26, 2015, 06:03:50 AM
Are you a militant Atheist that wants all religious people locked in a psych ward for delusions?
Are you a science geek atheist?
Are you a Unitarian Universalist? (You know the joke... an Atheist with children?)
or do you not care and need no symbol?
Post by: Valka on September 26, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
Post by: Green1 on September 26, 2015, 09:46:25 AM
Usually when I wear an atheist hat and want to have a visual reminder, I upload a Carl Sagan avatar. So I guess I fall into the 'science geek' category.
I am kind of with you. But then again, when is there a need for an "atheist hat"? Even the "Scarlet A" got kind of meaningless in that everyone on those particular boards were atheist.
Funny thing. I made scouting missions to a local atheist meet up a few years back. New to a town, I journeyed to the library across town where they had their "meeting" then cocktails after at a nice bar here. Of course - no where near working sections of town. Only upper middle class. Nice folks, but some of those guys are ultra militant. One dude had the DNA double helix tatooed on his forearms. Awesome discussions, but some of them would put the most zealot Jimmy Swaggart fan to shame with militant attitudes. But, just like a church, friendships were made. Some found a bf/gf out of it.
Now being AWARE instead of militant is understandable. We have some very closed minded folks in powerful places. I am not militant, but I do watch those folks that want to marginalize people. But enough to wear a hat?
But.. I digress and am tipsy.
If atheism, or "new atheism" has a symbol, it is one of those two. Or none.
Post by: Valka on September 26, 2015, 10:11:11 AM
But back when I started a thread about the NDT version of Cosmos over at CFC, for the duration of the series I switched from my usual cat-themed avatars to one of Carl Sagan sitting in front of a radio telescope.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
I was making a joke, of course, (and I daresay an ironic but not insulting one) when I created a no-icon Item about belief that there's nothing (note how I phrased that last), an Item that, like all of them, does nothing save give you a use message when used. Adding a symbol sorta ruins that thematic unity.
However, by my own rules, I don't get to make the final call. What'll it be?
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
If something suggesting both science and literacy can be found, that would be ideal.
BTW, there doesn't seem to be a Doctor Who image to go with the Doctor Who fan favorite...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 01:44:46 PM
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 01:53:58 PM
Firefox, using the Enterprise theme
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
-So, probably only working in IE. ;clenchedteeth
I guess I need to make a still .png of the Tardis...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 06:00:12 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
Well, if people are going to spend virtual currency, they should have something either visible or functional to show for it. So some kind of image should be offered.Okay; how about I find an open book icon and superimpose this:
If something suggesting both science and literacy can be found, that would be ideal.
(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16614.0;attach=16585;image)?
-At least, if I can make it look like anything at 32-40x ...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 06:48:00 PM
...Which I can't beLIEVE I didn't think of waiting before I went to the trouble with the Tardis image 20 times over, and now will have to do it twice.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
Post by: Green1 on September 28, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 07:56:46 PM
Post by: Valka on September 28, 2015, 08:01:52 PM
Post by: Green1 on September 28, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
It is just the symbol needs to be recognizable compared to how it is seen in the real world.
Here's a famous monument that has a variant on
atheist monument |
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 08:15:33 PM
Post by: Green1 on September 28, 2015, 08:21:22 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 08:27:29 PM
This is turning into a lot of hoops to jump to do something I didn't want to...
Post by: Green1 on September 28, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
It could have reduced better. Find me a much smaller version, and that might help.
This is turning into a lot of hoops to jump to do something I didn't want to...
May take me a minute. But, there is no rush. It is not like it HAS to be done. lol!
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
Post by: Green1 on September 28, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
He who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you.
True.
And, that symbol has baggage too. It is used by atheist meetup.com groups. The whole, "Hey, I am in a new city/recently divorced/needing to rebuild social life. Hey, look! fellow atheists!" kind of deal. It is kind of a religious symbol and marketing logo for membership attendance.
It may be more popular to do the FSM symbol, thinking about it. Then you get into The Invisible Pink Unicorn, which predates the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Then again, with IPU, who wants to be called a bronie? LOL! Then there is Bob or Eris... but that gets silly.
Or... maybe none. That's the problem with symbols. They are the "key to telepathy" and some mind control for an agenda of groups.
Not sure where to go with it, to be honest, given more thought.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 09:13:42 PM
I'm just not sure any symbol is appropriate, and if one is, we might ought to make our own...
Post by: Unorthodox on September 28, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
But if you don't look at it right it almost looks like a pentacle.
Heptagram, I could buy. Pentacle, not so much.
A heptagram for the otherkin would be interesting, come to think of it. (tongue in cheek BU...don't)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 10:44:55 PM
...It's only a matter of time before someone takes offense to the Disney religion Item I created for Rusty...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 28, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
Oh. My. Fox-tailed. God.
Post by: Valka on September 29, 2015, 06:48:46 AM
I'm trying very hard to abide by my own rules.I don't object to the Mickey Mouse image, but I've seen the movie The Mouse That Roared and it has nothing at all to do with Disney.
...It's only a matter of time before someone takes offense to the Disney religion Item I created for Rusty...
I have to say that the symbol does look uncomfortably like a pentagram of some kind.
Thing is, atheists aren't as cohesive a category of people as others think. I've explained about my personal preference for an entwining of science and literacy, while others prefer the "Darwin fish" and still others like the "scarlet A".
Hmm... a Google image search turns up this one, that is very nice:
Post by: Green1 on September 29, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
Post by: Valka on September 29, 2015, 10:00:17 AM
Post by: vonbach on September 29, 2015, 12:30:57 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on September 29, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
Okay, also: there's a furry religion?
Oh. My. Fox-tailed. God.
Thought you'd like that.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2015, 03:40:33 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2015, 05:22:34 PM
Ugh. Atheists. Theres a religious group that gets old fast.;wince
[admin hat]
von. We got ourselves a real problem here, sir.
In this context, that's a direct insult to other members.
I'm no fan of Atheism, but I've come to realize that my problem is with the ones who bad-mouth faith and people of faith (with whom I also rarely agree), not for their beliefs. Your beliefs, Uno's beliefs, Yitzi's beliefs, Rusty's beliefs, gwilly's beliefs, Green's beliefs - none of them break my leg or pick my pocket, but you keep making yours my problem by expressing them framed in the ugliest, bluntest way. It's a downer and, it's only saved from being boring by being so offensive. -Don't get the idea that that's a redeeming quality.
I've been discussing Atheism -I think- respectfully with Atheists, and they've been respectful back, and that's how we roll around here. They're friends and we're cool, not least because we're all going to a little trouble to be cool to each other. I don't enjoy quarrelling, don't enjoy seeing others quarrelling, and I don't enjoy calling a member down constantly for constantly posting offensive flame-bait. When it starts dancing up to actual flames, that's WAY over the line.
Sir, you need to class up your act, bad. I've been trying to tell you this from the beginning. If you carefully review all the times I've had to object to this or that you posted, I believe you'll find little or none of it scolding you for praising someone I find irredeemably repugnant - at least you said something positive about anything.
The bottom line is that I'm not seeing signs of progress, and in the absence of any evidence that you're trying to meet me halfway, the day you are Officially Declared a Serially Vexatious Poster is nearly upon us. Such persons don't get any wiggle room, and neither of us wants that, for all that it would make my job a lot easier...
...
[/admin hat]
Post by: Unorthodox on September 29, 2015, 07:24:24 PM
Back to the Otherkin.
I pretty sure I made mention of the Halloween in July thing having a bunch? Several had impressive costumes.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1KotEG9Z71Q/VasUDEjlDKI/AAAAAAAAeEM/oTyGrgw7rUg/s800-Ic42/IMG_0225.JPG)
Many more were dressed..."normally" (slightly emo/goth) but had tails. They were eating in the pizza parlor with us, and it was a rather interesting conversation about their respective animal sides and the importance of the tails. Especially if they had a REAL/taxidermied version of their animal.
(I'm a habitual eavesdropper, and can pinpoint specific conversations across a crowded room with ease.)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2015, 07:30:54 PM
Post by: Unorthodox on September 29, 2015, 07:36:27 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2015, 07:41:44 PM
Post by: vonbach on September 29, 2015, 10:36:13 PM
Quote
I'm no fan of Atheism, but I've come to realize that my problem is with the ones who bad-mouth faith and people of faith (with whom I also rarely agree), not for their beliefs.
I used to be one.
The reason atheists get old fast is they spend all their time going after my religion. You cant put a ten commandments sign up or a manger scene without getting sued. And they don't go after other religions either.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 29, 2015, 10:56:28 PM
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
How many decades before I can afford my own starship? :D
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 03:18:28 PM
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 03:54:20 PM
(and it would give me a goal to work toward)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 07:31:29 PM
QuoteI'm no fan of Atheism, but I've come to realize that my problem is with the ones who bad-mouth faith and people of faith (with whom I also rarely agree), not for their beliefs.
I used to be one.
The reason atheists get old fast is they spend all their time going after my religion. You cant put a ten commandments sign up or a manger scene without getting sued. And they don't go after other religions either.
To your credit, vonbach, the "atheist movement" itself can get a bit pretentious.
Case in point. There is a guy down my way called Jerry DeWitt. He was a fiery Pentecostal minister tracing his origin to a revival in the 1980s by Jimmy Swaggart. Jerry ended up working in a small town church in DeRidder, LA later in life. (Don't believe the hype of "preacher shortages". It is a tactic to sell seminary college. Actually having a high autonomy preacher job paid to talk requires travel out of your pocket then MAYBE a position in a small, low paid church in some rural area until someone dies or retires.)
He ended up being "outed" because he was talking to Richard Dawkin's Ex Clergy Project. When outed, he lost his job as preacher AND his day job working for the City of DeRidder as a building inspector connections with the Pentecostal church had gotten for him.
Dawkins and crew came to his rescue with money and he now speaks at atheist conventions and has his own "chapel" for atheists and walks around in priest robes as "the atheist priest".
Thing about this "chapel", though. It does not seem to have "services" unless some kind of media presence is there.... Hmmmm. Lake Charles Atheists and New Orleans Atheist groups think he is the bomb. Still, this "big media" kind of turns me off even if I have met him personally and he seems OKAY though there is that preacher ego about him. I understand making a living, but New Atheism seems all about high education whales and big money events and can be not very inclusive. Some followers have a lot of anger and go after religions, though DeWitt himself preaches more Universal Life or a very secular Unitarian Universalist message without the inclusiveness.
/off tangent.
Usually if someone becomes an atheist, I never see them go back. But, Christianity DOES have a more working class friendly vibe as long as on pretends to toe the line.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
This is nothing to do with choosing a symbol for a Shop Item and we're not going to discuss it in this thread anymore, thank you.Really - there's a religion thread a few pages back. Anybody mind if I move a few posts?
Post by: Green1 on October 05, 2015, 07:39:04 PM
Post by: Valka on October 05, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2015, 07:59:56 PM
I'm fine with somebody just starting a thread instead -with extensive quotes, or not- I just don't want it taking over in here.
Post by: Valka on October 05, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
Post by: Eadee on February 09, 2016, 12:59:46 PM
Its a unity pod. And if you use it you gain a random item or sum of EC. There should be a chance for it to be negative as well. Like loosing items or stuff.
It may seem like a rip-off from the "random money"-item but I think it fits the theme of SMAC much better :)
Or maybe one could simply rename "random money" into "unity pod" with a new icon if you find a random item too "powerful".
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 09, 2016, 03:14:34 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2016, 08:30:04 PM
-But on a related note, Uno hasn't been depositing his fake forum money, and I've robbed him twice in the last three weeks - I lost fake money on the first try, and made a miniscule profit on the second. So I'm in the hole a bit, but everybody, remember to deposit at the Bank when you build up €1,000 in-pocket, lest the Steal Money item occurs to someone.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Post by: Valka on February 23, 2016, 11:05:51 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
I actually got an idea for a new item. Have no clue if it is possible however.It's a good idea to work in SMACX iconography where feasible, given our focus, but really, anything but replacing the image for the Random Money item is over my tech pay grade, and the red die I put in there looks great - while a Unity Pod, shorn of the context of the in-game map, looks like a cow patty...
Its a unity pod. And if you use it you gain a random item or sum of EC. There should be a chance for it to be negative as well. Like loosing items or stuff.
It may seem like a rip-off from the "random money"-item but I think it fits the theme of SMAC much better :)
Or maybe one could simply rename "random money" into "unity pod" with a new icon if you find a random item too "powerful".
Anyone care to differ? I'm certainly not married to the red die...
Post by: Eadee on February 23, 2016, 09:54:31 PM
And since I'm a roleplayer: Dice are always fine !
Post by: Valka on February 23, 2016, 10:02:16 PM
... a Unity Pod, shorn of the context of the in-game map, looks like a cow patty...
;lol
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2016, 10:06:42 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 25, 2016, 08:29:29 PM
Uno, my DL mooched around with north of 7,200 in-pocket since the middle of summertime - I was giving you a free shot, and I'm surprised you didn't take it in time...
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 25, 2016, 09:01:57 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 25, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
5% a day was clearly too high; .0811 seemed unfair to everyone below the top five. Maybe 1% will prove to be a better balance.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 25, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 25, 2016, 09:30:49 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 25, 2016, 09:34:24 PM
BUncle €371310852
I Have No Name €368699161
sisko €81502452
Kilkakon €54840209
ariete €1776233
Rymdolov €9696
NewAgeOfPower €7967
Unorthodox €7748
Geo €4804
Yitzi €4778
I need to check the Bank just after 8 and see how much interest has accreted to each of the top ten accounts, and get a feel for how it's going...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 26, 2016, 04:19:40 AM
I Have No Name €372386153 (+3686991)
sisko €82317477 (+815024)
Kilkakon €55388611 (+548402)
ariete €1793995 (+17762)
Rymdolov €9793 (+97)
NewAgeOfPower €8047 (+80)
Unorthodox €7825 (+78)
Geo €4852 (+48)
Yitzi €4826 (+48)
Hmm. Now I'm tempted to change it back to .0811 tomorrow for comparison purposes...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 03:20:05 PM
BUncle €414260432
I Have No Name €411345984
sisko €90929708
Kilkakon €61183484
ariete €1981687
Rymdolov €10818
NewAgeOfPower €8888
Unorthodox €8644
Geo €5362
Yitzi €5331
I wonder. 1% was over 10x what sisko had set it to for a long time. Would .5% be better? -Yitzi is currently making a lot more interest a day than he ever would posting... €533 would be an exceptionally busy day with lots of science article threads posted for ME...
.5% would still be an EC a day for anyone with as little as €200 Banked, and halve the exponential curve internet-breaking rate at the top of the list.
What say the peanut gallery?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 03:47:29 PM
I do think .0811% interest ratcheted the difficulty level too high. I'm just not sure 1% is the best balance...
Post by: ColdWizard on March 08, 2016, 04:01:01 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
Post by: ColdWizard on March 08, 2016, 04:52:28 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 05:00:14 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 09:50:04 PM
I decided to make a modest increase in Bank interest, to a whole percent a day, since the rounding seemed to work out wildly adverse to smaller accounts - .0811% a day should have been registering €1 for accounts with €120 or more, yet seemed to require north of €800 to show any accrual.Wrong.
I was thinking of .811%, not .0811%.
I suck at the maths.
Post by: Valka on March 08, 2016, 09:50:54 PM
2. "Likes" can be a popularity contest where the "cool kids" rack up the points and the rest are left far behind; some people at TrekBBS already have hundreds of "likes" and we've only had that feature for a short time. Some people have yet to gain their 10 points for receiving 50 "likes" (don't ask what the points do, because nobody knows). At best they're a shorthand way of saying "I like what you said" without resorting to one-line posts or even just a smiley (which many boards consider to be merely spam). I give them out sparingly at TrekBBS, in places where I don't intend to make a post myself, but still want to give the poster a bit of approval for what he/she said. But they've got to be an exceptionally good or funny post for me to do that.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 09:53:38 PM
2. Yes.
Post by: Valka on March 08, 2016, 10:05:52 PM
One of the perks introduced at TrekBBS is that premium members (those who have a paid membership) get to access all lounges (normally people only get to access the lounge that corresponds to their rank, which for me is Fleet Admiral: those between 5000-7999 posts). But now I can post anywhere I want, even the next lounge up, in a post ranking I haven't reached yet. But unlike some other premium members, I haven't done that. As far as I'm concerned, it wouldn't be right to post in the Admirals' lounge until I've earned it fairly and reached that 8000th post. And at the rate I post at that place, I might make it by Christmas. Maybe. I have 1444 posts to go.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 10:40:05 PM
Of course, things like private lounges are only doable with traffic numbers a lot higher than we have here. -I mean, I could totally do that and control access with membergroups, but who would you talk to? Interesting notion to hold onto for the future, though.
Post by: Valka on March 08, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 08, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
No big deal to set up. ;nod
Post by: Valka on March 08, 2016, 11:48:20 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 09, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
But you're talking about stuff like IALS - which the management is in error to moderate much, especially where no one complained... Mediating brewing fights, perhaps, but not infracting people for marginal stuff, like's been done to you before...
Post by: Valka on March 09, 2016, 01:04:15 AM
And yeah, it is my opinion that the social groups there need to have a freer rein for moderating. I have complete confidence in Cutlass' judgment in IALS, and in the odd time or two when I thought he should act on a post or two, he took my advice (or politely disagreed, as is his right as group owner). The incidents you're referring to didn't even meet normal OT standards of moderation, let alone in a group that's invitation-only and most of the forum doesn't even realize it exists.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 09, 2016, 01:27:04 AM
It's private, y'know?
Post by: Valka on March 09, 2016, 06:53:31 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 09, 2016, 12:45:43 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 14, 2016, 08:04:04 PM
(So I can check in a few hours to get a sense if it's working right...)
BUncle - €435392877
I Have No Name - €432328763
sisko - €95568037
Kilkakon - €64304457
ariete - €2082773
Rymdolov - €11369
NewAgeOfPower - €9343
Unorthodox - €9084
Geo - €5636
Yitzi - €5602
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 15, 2016, 02:51:58 AM
I Have No Name - €434490407
sisko - €96045877
Kilkakon - €64625979
ariete - €2093187
Rymdolov - €11426
NewAgeOfPower - €9390
Unorthodox - €9129
Geo - €5664
Yitzi - €5630
Okay - this'll do, if nobody has a problem with it...
Post by: Valka on March 15, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 15, 2016, 03:03:04 AM
Post by: Eadee on March 21, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
But it's totally worth it!
Post by: Valka on March 21, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Post by: Eadee on March 21, 2016, 11:59:02 AM
Sadly no. I could afford a cup of coffee though.
Post by: Valka on March 21, 2016, 12:01:56 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 12:04:42 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 12:07:00 PM
Well, I could be a jerk and undo that, but I guess I better leave it for a while. I wanna be a good sport...
Post by: Eadee on March 21, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Oh.
Well, I could be a jerk and undo that, but I guess I better leave it for a while. I wanna be a good sport...
Thats the spirit! :D ;b;
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 02:29:04 PM
Post by: Valka on March 21, 2016, 02:35:01 PM
But seriously, we can has a sandwich in the shop? Maybe PB&J or BLT?
I haven't had a real BLT in years, and really miss it (bacon is no longer part of my diet).
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
Check my new usertitle between "BUncle" and "Transcend".
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
I prefer the second...
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
Is it on rye?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 08:22:53 PM
I say that it is.
Post by: Valka on March 21, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Just loaded up a .php script and about to customize...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 09:16:50 PM
I got the Writer icon taken care of while I was at it.
Post by: Eadee on March 21, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
And yes BU your title-change is fair game :)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2016, 10:39:19 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 28, 2016, 07:17:50 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2016, 03:38:03 AM
Post by: Dio on April 05, 2016, 03:39:46 AM
...I hope it's okay that I altered the title joke against me to work in a stupid pun...I think it remains okay that you decided to change your title. ;b;
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2016, 03:43:16 AM
Post by: Dio on April 05, 2016, 03:47:27 AM
Eadee decided to change my title. That's why I'm talking about it here.;buttdance; :P
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2016, 04:08:13 AM
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2016, 05:01:28 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 07, 2016, 05:15:00 PM
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 07, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
And why leave out the Fett?
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Eight posts to go...
Post by: Dio on April 07, 2016, 05:41:26 PM
[blinks] What? Where did that come from?I was looking at the forum shop and I was looking at the Fan favorites sub-catergory. I then thought "Where is Jar Jar Binks among the items in this shop?"
And why leave out the Fett?
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Eight posts to go...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 07, 2016, 05:42:25 PM
Well that would be because JarJar is no one's favorite.
Post by: Eadee on April 07, 2016, 09:22:44 PM
Eadee decided to change my title. That's why I'm talking about it here.
Its completely fine! You wore that title for quite some time and I had my fun :)
At this point I wouldn't mind if you changed it completely :)
I mean, you earned your EC too and I need a reason to save up for something again :D
Edit: sorry for that late response I'm REALLY busy the last few weeks and only skimmed through posts here and there.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 08, 2016, 10:20:49 PM
Post by: Dio on April 10, 2016, 03:03:16 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 10, 2016, 03:46:36 AM
Post by: Dio on April 10, 2016, 03:57:48 AM
What'd I do to deserve a fat joke?I was making a satirical joke on the economic downturn of 2008 with the corporations that were to large for failure.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 10, 2016, 04:07:20 AM
Post by: Dio on April 20, 2016, 02:51:10 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 20, 2016, 03:18:10 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 29, 2016, 01:36:39 AM
That item takes €1,000 out of the economy each time, any winnings just moved around...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 29, 2016, 01:40:33 AM
Don't ask.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 23, 2016, 03:38:34 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 25, 2016, 03:43:49 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 25, 2016, 03:51:24 AM
-Off to the Bank before anyone gets any notions...
Post by: Valka on June 26, 2016, 04:16:46 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 26, 2016, 05:30:54 AM
I could withdraw 4 million and be number one in both categories...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2016, 03:43:45 PM
I just made a €1,000 deposit and noticed Yitzi had dropped off the richest in-pocket list in the Shop statistics list - and feedbot, which took the 10th slot, has been disabled for years and didn't suddenly get richer.
-Some people, it just feels wrong to mess with, so gwilly's safe despite his lack of prudent depositing, but I do believe I'll rob Kirov next time I reach €1,000. Watch him not see this in the next week+ and nobody tell him...
Post by: Valka on July 15, 2016, 11:52:16 PM
1. I've been PMing with someone on another forum, talking about stargazing, so may we please have a telescope in the store here?
2. It's raining again, and I don't have a real umbrella. But maybe a virtual umbrella would be nice for those of us who live in seasonally (or normally) rainy locales.
(of course I really shouldn't complain too much - the rain means the construction outside stopped for the day and I actually got a brief nap for an hour or so)
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2016, 12:24:47 AM
They ARE going to happen. -Any troublesome flourishes I should go for? Glint flashing off the lens-end of the telescope, if optical? Rain stopping at the 'bella?
Post by: Valka on July 16, 2016, 12:57:52 AM
Hmm... basic telescope is what I've got in mind. Nothing big or fancy.
EDIT: Sorry for the huge images! This is the basic telescope shape, but feel free to add your own embellishments. I used to have a really cute smiley of an astronomer looking through a telescope, but have no idea where to find it now.
I'm going to try to attach a few images:
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 16, 2016, 02:12:56 AM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2016, 03:14:01 AM
I should check if it's easy to put a >1 uses on an item - we could, if so, make an umbrella tear in the wind on, say, the 20th use; I couldn't bear to have the Kittehs and puppies die of old age on us, though...
-Come to think of it, that would require a second use message for used up, and I don't know how to do that, so definitely not easy enough...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2016, 12:31:47 AM
Post by: Bearu on July 27, 2016, 02:33:30 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 10, 2016, 01:04:23 AM
Poo. I not only didn't make a profit trying to rob Kirov, I got 0, he lost 0 and I'm down 10 karma points in addition to the €1,000 spent - and karma isn't even enabled. I'm pretty sure I spelled Kirov right -I actually copy-pasted it- but I smell a rat.WTH!?! Same exact result again. ;clenchedteeth
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 01, 2016, 03:30:25 AM
I deposited €1,000, bought another Steal Credit to rob Kirov --- and got nothing but -10 Karma. It's like he's got magic protection. ;no
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 28, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Uno, is it fair to guess that your current Bank balance of €35329 is far more interest than deposits?
Post by: Unorthodox on November 28, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
Post by: Eadee on September 27, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
Enjoy your impending demise! :stickpoke:
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 30, 2017, 07:17:24 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 31, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 24, 2021, 01:29:24 PM
Tempted to rob E_T, but I think I'll Bank my profits instead...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 03, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
Geo got the Unity Ticket, as seen at the bottom of his postbit...
Post by: Geo on March 04, 2021, 04:57:57 PM
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2021, 05:32:10 PM