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Title: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 03:37:59 AM
NSFW term.  Open at your own risk.

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Funny because it's true...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 24, 2015, 03:49:10 AM
man I thought this was something else...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 04:03:59 AM
:D

I thought of that.  Sorry.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 24, 2015, 04:05:10 AM
no worries, it's beer time :D
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 04:11:58 AM
Um, I think it's actually a very important point.  This country is way, embarrassingly, behind on the homersexuals - and I say that as someone who was a 'phobe into his 20s, but not speaking with convert's zeal, or anything.

Just, are they citizens or not?

I say they totally are, and their tastes in companionship are none of my business and not my problem.  Equal rights for everyone under the law.  Period.

You don't have to love 'em, you don't have to approve - but you don't get to discriminate or call them names w/o being a bigot out loud in public.  Shame if you think your personal opinion trumps fundamental American principals.  -And human decency.  Shame.


(P.S. Beer up and rampage, flying shelled thing!)
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 24, 2015, 05:01:06 AM
Damn I can't respond to this, but rampage time :)
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 05:17:27 AM
Raaampaage!
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 24, 2015, 06:07:44 AM
whoops, played SMAX by mistake
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 06:27:51 AM
-Also good. ;nod


SMAC fo' da gaayz!
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Geo on June 24, 2015, 07:50:23 AM
Certain people should participate more (in team games :P ).
Am I bigoted now? ;cute
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
I depends on what the heck you meant.

I got a very minor on-topic rant associated, but too early to tackle just yet.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Geo on June 24, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
I depends on what the heck you meant.

That you persistently refuse to participate in any type of MP/team game. :P
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2015, 04:13:25 PM
Oh.

Yes.  Yes I do.

I support MP sincerely, as you know, but I don't actually play SP much and cheat when I do - you don't want me in a game.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 28, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
Well, the Supreme Court made a major decision the other day, and I sure didn't have a dog in that fight - but I'm astonished and delighted that a conservative court did the right thing.  I know I totally didn't give away a certain leaning on the issue in reply #4, and my apologies for not warning y'all to brace for a shock.

The rant I was not awake enough to tackle yet the other morning?  Here; I don't owe anyone my private thoughts running in harness with anyone else's, my agreement, or my approval, however much society demands it.  I have the right to my own prejudices, for all that I don't want them.  I'm more interested in understanding everyone whether or not I conclude that I approve.  And alternate sexualities?  Well, I'm personally a bit of a prude.  Whatever; screw you if you judge me for that.  I get unhappy when people with mainstream sexual modes are too publically bold, under that "what would Mamma think?" rule of thumb I've mentioned.  I don't need a lot of details about what you like, necessarily.  If it ain't my problem, I've learned to not go looking to MAKE it my problem.  Fearing, hating, just bad-mouthing whatever you find other, is a very human thing to do - but something we as a species need to be working to grow out of.  The fearing/hating?  You a bad person if you let those eat you up, not because you owe anyone your thoughts, but because those are not conducive to learning the real truth(s) - and because they are hard to keep from showing and letting them lead you in words and/or behavior is rude.  We all need to avoid rudeness, for as Kurt Vonnegut Jr. said in the preface to Jailbird: "Love may fail, but courtesy shall prevail."

Fair deal for everybody is what I say.  People all ought to be cool to each other - if not awesome, and loving is probably too much to ask.  But polite and considerate and fair deals all around.  It's simple to say, and nothing is ever simple in this messed-up world of ours - but let's cut the bull; they're citizens, and this was right.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 28, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
It only stands to confirm the decisions I made earlier on about people who can't leave others alone when the other person isn't hurting them directly.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 28, 2015, 01:52:20 PM
Caesar ain't gonna come into your church (synagogue, mosque, kingdom hall, whatever) and make your preacher (rabbi, etc.) do no marriages he don't want to.  People frame it as a religious issue, and are moderately stupid to do so - it has everything to do with what a lot of people/cultures find Other and distasteful, and very little to do with religion.

AND, for anyone who gives a poop about American Principals, framing it as religious is inherently a logical fallacy and an own goal; by Caesar's own rules, he may not legislate according to religious dictates.  Reckon that's where the conservative swing vote came from...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on June 28, 2015, 05:16:52 PM
Having 2 members of my immediate family directly impacted by recent political decisions gives me some reason to celebrate.  My 'bonus mom' will finally become my stepmom and my mom can get insurance benefits from her.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 28, 2015, 06:05:31 PM
You know what turned me around on my own prejudice against the homersexuals?  A dawning realization about some people I love.  It's that simple.  My cousin and a beloved friend/teacher who are pretty much closeted to this day - Jesus, they're people who are gay, not gay people.

That and a couple years' wrestling with it is all it took.  They're people.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 01:44:33 AM
Anybody want a rainbowed avatar?  Take me longer to boot GIMP and find the folder I save new avatars in than to do...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 03, 2015, 02:46:46 AM
no thanks on the rainbowtar, I marched in a pride parade for my mom when I was 13 and got told I was going to hell enough where rainbows bother me now.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 03:03:04 AM
RAYBOWZ IN HECK FO' DA GAMERA.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 03, 2015, 03:04:16 AM
CAPZLOCK TIEMS WIF BUNCLE!!!!
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
How did you guess?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 03, 2015, 03:11:16 AM
The caps, and we ain't talkin' fallout
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 03:33:55 AM
Wait.

There's bashing w/ NUKES?

-How did THAT not make the news?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 03, 2015, 04:41:19 AM
wasn't about Obama?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 05:00:59 AM
BAKRAMA be bashing teh ghayz w/ nukes?   :o
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 03, 2015, 05:38:10 AM
;nod;
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
 :o
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Geo on July 03, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
 ;...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 08:26:21 PM
Aw c'mon - say something.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Geo on July 03, 2015, 10:58:12 PM
Het's shouldn't be allowed to marry anymore? :whistle:
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 11:25:18 PM
Because of my proposal to Uno? ;)
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
UnO's already married though
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 06:42:29 PM
I asked him to fix that...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
I thought he had a happy marriage?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 06:44:47 PM
I want to make it happier.

Actually, I'd rather he didn't run hEt off...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 07:07:57 PM
Well i'm chalking this one up to I'm outta the loops
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 07:15:29 PM
Okay; I want to make ME happier...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 09:14:26 PM
Take a little walk, enjoy summer, eat watermelon.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 09:15:35 PM
I want to do the sex w/ attractive wimminz, for all of the topic of this thread...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 09:25:01 PM
Then you have to talk to them, when not talking to them make yourself attractive.  (increase money, physicality, prestige)
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
...

...Actually, I wish you'd discuss at length in the Catcalls thread, since we already opened that door...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 10:02:42 PM
I don't like that thread though...
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
It doesn't like you either - you offered it a cheeseburger on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 10:04:58 PM
I'll catch up to where you are in it if you'd like
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 10:07:29 PM
???
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 04, 2015, 10:13:30 PM
Still wouldn't fit right there.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 04, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
I dunno - it's about the best way to offer the fast food w/o offending, and the door is already open.  Valka's issue was almost entirely about the central joke/metaphor soiling her lolcat interest - and that ship's done sailed, no worry.

But start a different thread if you like, and I won't heckle this time (as hard).
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 01, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Well, the Supreme Court made a major decision the other day, and I sure didn't have a dog in that fight - but I'm astonished and delighted that a conservative court did the right thing.  I know I totally didn't give away a certain leaning on the issue in reply #4, and my apologies for not warning y'all to brace for a shock.

The rant I was not awake enough to tackle yet the other morning?  Here; I don't owe anyone my private thoughts running in harness with anyone else's, my agreement, or my approval, however much society demands it.  I have the right to my own prejudices, for all that I don't want them.  I'm more interested in understanding everyone whether or not I conclude that I approve.  And alternate sexualities?  Well, I'm personally a bit of a prude.  Whatever; screw you if you judge me for that.  I get unhappy when people with mainstream sexual modes are too publically bold, under that "what would Mamma think?" rule of thumb I've mentioned.  I don't need a lot of details about what you like, necessarily.  If it ain't my problem, I've learned to not go looking to MAKE it my problem.  Fearing, hating, just bad-mouthing whatever you find other, is a very human thing to do - but something we as a species need to be working to grow out of.  The fearing/hating?  You a bad person if you let those eat you up, not because you owe anyone your thoughts, but because those are not conducive to learning the real truth(s) - and because they are hard to keep from showing and letting them lead you in words and/or behavior is rude.  We all need to avoid rudeness, for as Kurt Vonnegut Jr. said in the preface to Jailbird: "Love may fail, but courtesy shall prevail."

Fair deal for everybody is what I say.  People all ought to be cool to each other - if not awesome, and loving is probably too much to ask.  But polite and considerate and fair deals all around.  It's simple to say, and nothing is ever simple in this messed-up world of ours - but let's cut the bull; they're citizens, and this was right.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: A neverending story..
Post by: vonbach on October 03, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
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.Funny because it's true...

This one is just too easy. This is why the neo-liberalism theology doesn't work. Theres no breaks to it.
Theres always some new oppressed class that has to be saved. And its the common folk that suffers.
Whats next bestiality? Pedophilia? It never ends. God's law or chaos.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2015, 12:50:19 AM
I covered this this over two months ago, if you love America.
Caesar ain't gonna come into your church (synagogue, mosque, kingdom hall, whatever) and make your preacher (rabbi, etc.) do no marriages he don't want to.  People frame it as a religious issue, and are moderately stupid to do so - it has everything to do with what a lot of people/cultures find Other and distasteful, and very little to do with religion.

AND, for anyone who gives a poop about American Principals, framing it as religious is inherently a logical fallacy and an own goal; by Caesar's own rules, he may not legislate according to religious dictates.  Reckon that's where the conservative swing vote came from...
You do love America, don't you?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
So this thread is about same-sex marriage?

Canada's had that for over 10 years. The legislation was tabled in the House of Commons by the Prime Minister of that time, Paul Martin, who happens to be Roman Catholic. When a couple of bishops/archbishops (not sure) started in on him about excommunication if he did this, he very politely told them that his religion is personal and he leaves it at home instead of bringing it into the House.

Fast-forward 10 years, and other than the discussion of SSM becoming legal in the U.S. and that bizarre stuff about Kim Davis, it's not something that most people here get too excited about.

It was kinda funny, though, seeing some Americans so adamantly against it that they ranted, "I'm gonna move to Canada!"  :D *


*No intent to offend anyone here who may have strong opinions either way... I just don't understand why it's anyone's business who complete strangers want to marry. As long as it's not incestuous, forced marriage, or one of those illegal polygamous things with underage girls, let people live their lives.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: vonbach on October 04, 2015, 03:32:31 PM
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*No intent to offend anyone here who may have strong opinions either way... I just don't understand why it's anyone's business who complete strangers want to marry. As long as it's not incestuous, forced marriage, or one of those illegal polygamous things with underage girls, let people live their lives.

"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." Aristotle
The problem with this attitude is with no standards thing just grow more and more degenerate.
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
 ::)

The people I know who are either in same-sex marriages or other relationships are not "degenerates" in any way.

Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: vonbach on October 04, 2015, 03:45:32 PM
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The people I know who are either in same-sex marriages or other relationships are not "degenerates" in any way.
Heh. Yes they are. Whats next after "gay marriage?" Hmm? Bestiality? Ten year olds having sex changes?
This is the problem with Liberal theology. The whole point of this game is proving your moral
superiority by "signaling." The problem is theres always one more issue to demonstrate your superiority
so it never ends.
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STATUS SIGNALLING
Expressing a moral stance or engaging in moralistic behavior primarily to demonstrate that you are superior to most people and fit for acceptance in liberal social circles. Usually shortened to simply "Signalling."
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 03:56:51 PM
;no
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Valka on October 04, 2015, 04:09:11 PM
@vonbach: You are denigrating good people you don't even know. And now I'm done with interacting with you (what a pity this forum lacks a certain useful feature other forums have).
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: vonbach on October 04, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
Hey, its true. Its why people get sick of leftists.
Another reason is advocating for policies that ruin
the areas they don't live in and the lives of people they don't socialize with.

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good people
And you get to decide that do you? Not God?
Title: Re: A neverending story...
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2015, 04:13:56 PM
Your opinions would be a lot less offensive if you'd leave off with the insults - they're lies, and that's not okay even if you believe them.
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