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Community => Chiron News Network => Topic started by: Yitzi on November 14, 2014, 12:53:07 AM

Title: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on November 14, 2014, 12:53:07 AM

New release: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Link to the downloads section:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=285 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=285)

This fixes a display issue in the base overview screen from 3.3, and also fixes a number of bugs associated with AI freeing of captured faction leaders.

As always, this requires the text files from version 3.3.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: ete on November 14, 2014, 02:08:17 AM

 ;b;

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: DarthNihilus on November 26, 2014, 05:47:38 PM

Yitzi, can you make that F4 window scrollable with mouse (not just clickable)? It pisses me off to micromanage 15+ bases. :)

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on November 26, 2014, 06:10:49 PM

Unfortunately, stuff like "make scrollable with mouse" would be quite difficult; if you want you can nominate it as a possible project for the next patch (probably working off the rules used for map scrolling, which I would have to figure out), but it would have a very low vote multiplier due to its difficulty.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: DarthNihilus on November 28, 2014, 01:54:26 PM

nothing

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: BFG on December 03, 2014, 05:17:21 AM

Out of curiosity, is there a location anywhere that summarizes all of the changes/fixes made?  I'm returning to SMAC after a nearly 2-year hiatus.

I also wondered if my "pet peeve bug" of automated Gravship formers not making sea-based improvements ever got fixed, since I seem to run into that every single game :D

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on December 03, 2014, 05:36:01 AM

Quote from: BFG on December 03, 2014, 05:17:21 AM

Out of curiosity, is there a location anywhere that summarizes all of the changes/fixes made?  I'm returning to SMAC after a nearly 2-year hiatus.

The wiki page (http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Yitzi%27s_patch) is what you're looking for (unless I forgot about some bugfixes, in which case those are pretty much lost).

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I also wondered if my "pet peeve bug" of automated Gravship formers not making sea-based improvements ever got fixed, since I seem to run into that every single game :D

No, but the current voting for new features (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=14058.0;topicseen) thread is still accepting bugfix nominations, so if you nominate it and can get other people to support it, it could make it into patch #3.5.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on December 30, 2014, 05:48:24 PM

Hi,
I install SMAC+SMAX from GOG (setup_sid_meiers_alpha_centauri_2.0.2.23.exe) and then I download this latest patch patch 3.3b.

But after run I see screen "RULES PARSER" (picture in attachment) .... and then game crash.

Could you give me some advice how to fix this?

Thank you.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 30, 2014, 05:51:36 PM

That looks like you didn't use the alphax.txt included with v3.0...

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on December 30, 2014, 05:58:13 PM

Yeah true, now I download patch 3.3 which have TXT files and I copy it to AC folder and now its working.
Thank you for help.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 30, 2014, 05:59:44 PM

:D

Delighted to be of service - and to have you here.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on December 30, 2014, 10:33:55 PM

So today I spend few wonderfull hours with this mod and I have one question about refueling aircrafts.

I have about 10 aircrafts in one city (I build per 2 aircraft in different cities so theirs home cities are different) and now I move them all into one city and I am attacking with this aircrafts - but refueling only 2-3 aircrafts (randomly) even if all of this aircraft stay without moving in this city.

And I dont know why?

Is there some maximum capacity for refueling in one city?

I tried build airbase and move aircraft here, but with same result - some time refuel one sometimes two .....

Thank you for help.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on December 30, 2014, 10:55:15 PM

Quote from: VladaM on December 30, 2014, 10:33:55 PM

So today I spend few wonderfull hours with this mod and I have one question about refueling aircrafts.

I have about 10 aircrafts in one city (I build per 2 aircraft in different cities so theirs home cities are different) and now I move them all into one city and I am attacking with this aircrafts - but refueling only 2-3 aircrafts (randomly) even if all of this aircraft stay without moving in this city.

And I dont know why?

Is there some maximum capacity for refueling in one city?

I tried build airbase and move aircraft here, but with same result - some time refuel one sometimes two .....

Thank you for help.

This sounds like a bug.  (If it's not present in earlier patches, I think I even know which bugfix accidentally caused it.)  If you provide a savegame, I can investigate.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on December 31, 2014, 03:41:28 AM

Here is the savegame. Aircraft are on the left side city.
Thank you.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on December 31, 2014, 03:56:15 AM

Quote from: VladaM on December 31, 2014, 03:41:28 AM

Here is the savegame. Aircraft are on the left side city.
Thank you.

Ok, it's late now but I can probably check tomorrow or the next day.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on December 31, 2014, 04:56:25 PM

Ok, I found out what's happening, and it's not due to my patch:

A needlejet will regenerate its fuel when it reaches 0 movement in an airbase or base.  This can happen due to the "skip turn" (spacebar) action, which sets movement to 0, or by reaching the airbase/base in its last move, but will not happen with the "hold position" action.  Therefore, if a needlejet still has movement left and you have it hold position (or sentry (L)) in a base/airbase and then end turn while there is still movement left, it will regenerate that turn's fuel (since that's tracked with movement), but no more.

This is a fairly minor bug and not due to my patch, so while you can nominate it for fixing, it's not getting fast-tracked.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: ete on January 01, 2015, 06:17:59 PM

It's also on the bug tracker https://github.com/OpenSMACX/OpenSMACX/issues/9 and has been around/known for a long time.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on January 01, 2015, 08:56:44 PM

Thanks for help, Is it good to know "how to refuel"  :D
"Backspace" key is my friend now  :D

But I have new "frozing" savegame - in attachment.

After new turn the game froze without error message.....

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 01, 2015, 09:02:47 PM

Freezes are usually extremely difficult to track down...if it doesn't happen in Kyrub's patch (unlikely) I can probably do something, but if it does then it'd probably have to wait until the decompilation project is done.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 01, 2015, 09:06:38 PM

Well, I was able to determine that it's due to corrupted data: A unit is listed with "next unit in square" as itself.  So I should be able to edit the savegame to fix it...

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on January 01, 2015, 09:19:21 PM

Thank you for help.

I am sick (flu) and this game is memory return to my colleague age, I played it in physics computer laboratory after the lectures.
There were 5 astrophysics and teoretical physics which played this game  :D :D :D
I was amazing times  ;) ;) ;)

So you have my admiration and gratitude. I spend last 3 days in memories back in 1998/1999  :D :D :D

If its there some possibility of donation It will be glad to contribute some small amount.

Have a nice evening.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 02, 2015, 02:24:04 AM

Quote from: VladaM on January 01, 2015, 09:19:21 PM

Thank you for help.

I am sick (flu) and this game is memory return to my colleague age, I played it in physics computer laboratory after the lectures.
There were 5 astrophysics and teoretical physics which played this game  :D :D :D
I was amazing times  ;) ;) ;)

So you have my admiration and gratitude. I spend last 3 days in memories back in 1998/1999  :D :D :D

If its there some possibility of donation It will be glad to contribute some small amount.

Have a nice evening.

Thanks.  I don't really think I need a small donation (although the site would probably appreciate it), but if you happen to know of any available jobs in the New York area starting in May or June...

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on January 02, 2015, 09:13:25 AM

I am from central europe (Czech republic) , It sound little bit familiar as Central park - but itsnt the same place  :D

So I am sorry - I've heard about New York only from TV series "Friends" and "How I Met Your Mother"  :D

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 04, 2015, 12:29:29 AM

Correction: It may actually be due to listing itself as "previous unit in square", but same idea (it lists itself as both, but I'm not certain which is which, and it doesn't really matter for purposes of fixing it...)

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 04, 2015, 12:54:36 AM

Okay, I've managed to produce a fixed savegame after ending the turn, which I'm attaching.

However, it does seem to be a bug in my patch, so I'll have to track it down and figure out where the problem is...

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: VladaM on January 04, 2015, 07:51:35 AM

Hi, I load damaged (and ALSO fixed) save and I found Believers troop in my city (I am in VENDETTA with her), but city is still mine.
So maybe this was the problem with the bad savegame - game save enemy troop in my city....
Thanks for help.

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 04, 2015, 01:25:05 PM

Quote from: VladaM on January 04, 2015, 07:51:35 AM

Hi, I load damaged (and ALSO fixed) save and I found Believers troop in my city (I am in VENDETTA with her), but city is still mine.
So maybe this was the problem with the bad savegame - game save enemy troop in my city....
Thanks for help.

Or it might be a second consequence of whatever the bug was...I still have to figure out what the problem is and how to fix it...

Title: Re: Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b
Post by: Yitzi on January 04, 2015, 06:58:57 PM

Bad news: Unlike what I first thought, the underlying bug was not introduced in my patch, but rather is present in Kyrub's, and probably Scient's and even the original as well.  And without a version of the game that lacks the bug, tracking down a data corruption bug is not feasible without access to source code.  So once the decompilation project is completed it can probably be fixed, but until then a case-by-case fix is probably the best that can be done; fortunately, it seems to be fairly rare.