posted 11-13-98 10:13 AM ET        

Who are the BETA testers !!!

I can't beleive we haven't tryed to work on this one yet !!!

OK, we know there are 25 of them (Is this fact???)

OK .. so #1 has got to be TAS !!!

TAS >> Started off in the begining with a supreme # of posts ... but now they've been cut to the occational trickle !! He's got to be one ... I'd be willing to put my house on it !!!

YYYH >> For the inverse reasons, it's also a fact that YYYH is NOT a BETA tester .. he just has way too many posts !!!

Imran Siddiqui >>> Is the fact that he has an extensive role in the story coincidence, I think not !!! He has to be one of THEM !!!

Brother Larry >>> Seeing as he could never call the gang at Firaxis his true gods, he'll never be given the BETA !!!

Zanthrax >>> I think he was falling behind on his BETA 'reports", and decided to leave the forum to catch up on some of his work !!!

MAYA >>> Med student or BETA student ??? Is there a difference ??? I also think she has a 2nd job with firaxis!!! I'm fairly sure she was the one who researched all the faction's quotes !!!

Jason of BeyondAC.com >>> I wouldn't think I'd have to give you guys the reason he's a BETA tester .. that one should be blindly obvious !!!

posted 11-13-98 10:38 AM ET            

Another tip: Brother Greg - he may be married to the beta version in reality, what do you think ?

posted 11-13-98 10:50 AM ET            

As for BGreg .. you do have a point there .. I do remember him posting something about Sci-Fi games and his marriage all in the same post !!!

Roland .. I'm guessing you are safe out there in Europe, as are most overseas people for the plain fact that it would be hard to file a lawsuit against any of you in case you decided to break your code of silence !!!

So we can scrap most Europeans of our list !!!

posted 11-13-98 11:06 AM ET            

I think we just found our 2nd certain BETA tester !!!

Jason, you just did too much work in support of the game with your web-site not to be a Beta tester ... sorry to tell you, but you ARE A BETA TESTER !!!

posted 11-13-98 11:52 AM ET            

Unfortunately, I think it'll get harder and harder with each new BETA tester found !!!

We've got a couple of the obvious ones!!!

posted 11-13-98 02:08 PM ET            

And no, I'm not one. At they time they requested them I was WAY too busy. I could now, except for Fallout 2 and Shogo, and Warhammer: Chaos Gate when hits shelves and Baldur's Gate when it hits shelves...

posted 11-13-98 02:24 PM ET            

Too bad though, I thought I would have made a good one !!!

I loved CIV2, but noticed many bugs and other anoying things that could have been easily made clearer or better !!!

The fact that I tought myself Pascal in high school goes to show that I understand the principles of programming and algorithms, but the fact that I haven't programmed in 7-8 years would make my approach that of a typical gamer, not a programmer, but still a gamer that understands the limits of reason when it comes to what is possible to improve and what is too far fetched !!!

(Is it too late to apply Mike Ely ???)

As for you CClark .. you fit the mold perfectly for being a BETA tester !!! Where have you been these last 2 weeks since the forum went back up ??? Only 17 posts ??? You must be #4 !!! (Gotcha)

Your silly reverse psychology tricks won't work on me !!!

posted 11-13-98 03:17 PM ET            

What do they say ? They did not expect us ?

Well, nobody expects

THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

posted 11-13-98 06:42 PM ET            

Would the following people please step forward.

Apocalypse
Brother Greg
and
outlyr242

I accuse you three of beta testing behind our backs. All of you have NOT been posting up to your usual numbers for the last several months. The punishment should be Death ....... or you could tell us about the game!

posted 11-13-98 08:07 PM ET            

I'm not one. I did apply though, but the problem was that you had to have prior experience testing a commercial game. Though I am a programmer by trade, I didn't qualify. I wish I had to tell you the truth.

And you know you can trust me. Would I lie to you? *puts on innocent face*

I think you'll find they're people who dropped out completely. TAS sorts fits the bill, but I dunno.

Anyway, we'll find out soon enough.

posted 11-13-98 08:23 PM ET            

I think I'm a beta tester!! Because I'm not!! Makes no sense, well, neither does Saddam Hussein, & look where he is....

posted 11-13-98 08:32 PM ET            

Whats the scope on Thomas Scobie???

Any chance???

posted 11-13-98 09:00 PM ET            

You think I'm some kind of `plant' do you? Exactly what kind of plant do you think I am?
Vegetable? Tuber? Monocotyledon? Dicotyledon? Fruit?(don't go there!) Cactus? Bamboo? Grain? Nut? How about a nice Shrubbery? (I know there is some redundancy in this list, but hey, go with it.)

BTW, I did not sign up for the Beta because I don't have the experince.

posted 11-16-98 11:51 AM ET            

>>>> *** ATTENTION BETA TESTERS !!!! *** <<<<

Anyways ... you beta testers ... don't get too qweezy, I respect your inability to admit to your BETA testing, but you gotta admit, we're running out of topics here !!!

I don't see you getting into trouble as long as you don't admit anything .. so feel free to continue playing "dumb" .. I personally wouldn't risk losing my ability to play SMAC .. even in BETA !!!

posted 11-16-98 12:14 PM ET            

BETA Testers (BT)

1> TAS
2> Jason Beaudion
3> MikeH (Brian)

Suspects (SUSP)

DHE
Maya
Apocalypse
Imran Siddiqui
Zanthrax
Venom
Brenda
Outlyr242
CClark
Borodino
Brother Greg
JSorense
PhillipeMipzLePage (I think that's his full name)

Trusted non-beta tester TNBT)

Myself (DJ RRebel)
YYYH
Roland

Probable Non-Beta Testers: (PNBT):

LarryBoy
Octopus
Jeff Frazier
Victor

Hmmmn .. I just noticed BigE(r) isn't anywhere in the lists ... where does he belong ???

OK guys .. let's debate this current list a bit .. anyone joining the conversation will obviouly state that he/she is not a beta tester, so, please also give us a reason to believe you !!! Proof would be nice too !!!

posted 11-16-98 12:19 PM ET            

I am NOT a beta tester, but then again if I was I'd say that anyway wouldn't I?

posted 11-16-98 03:02 PM ET            

The walls have ears. If you are Canadian, then I would agree with someone who said "Maple Leaf". But the truth, I think your in on this....Beta stuff. Come on,....you can say, I won't tell. No one in this forum would tell. We are all honest people, right???
DJ:
Good thread. Although, I think you are going to have to be a little sneakier upon finding out who is a tester. I mean, the frontal attack is good, but these "Beta" testers have to be loyal to the corps, on leaks, that type of thing. I still think good ol Phillip is in on this.

posted 11-16-98 03:31 PM ET            

What can I tell ya? You are wrong. Way wrong.
No, I am not a Canadian. Check my profile, I live in California. I just like maple trees: beautiful foliage spring, summer and fall; a fine hard wood; and you can make syrup and candy from its sap.
No, I am not a beta tester.* Like I have said before, I did not apply because I do not have the experience. Besides my work is too important to waste on playing silly computer games or monitoring BBs.
So you can give up on this empty accusation.

BTW, I have been grilled by more accomplished interrogators than you. Even the Spanish Inquisition (which no one expected) with their tortuous comfy chair and even the dreaded fluffy pillows couldn't make me change my story.

P.S. that's jsorense not Jsorense or Jsorense.

*Authentic SMAC on-topic content.

posted 11-17-98 12:26 PM ET            

See, the good Firaxians know how important this forum is to the regulars and how it helps us maintain even a semblance of sanity. Therefore, they would have realized that allowing any of us to become beta testers would have been bad as it would have cut us off from our support group here. (NDA's are one of those lousy reasons why lawyers should be left on Earth when the Unity takes off.)

posted 11-19-98 04:13 PM ET            

Here's my story. Yes I did apply to be a beta tester. I have had limited experience testing other beta versions of games and I could not resist the thought of getting my hands on SMAC (I have been following the development of SMAC since April). I was never informed personally that I was rejected . The next thing I heard was a post by Firaxis to the old board that all of the beta testers had been selected.

I believe the majority of testers would be people who participate in this forum. I also think that you will not get one beta tester to "fess up" in these forums. But I agree with DJ RRebel that it would be interesting to see how close our guesses are.

Don't worry Beta Testers you will still be welcome here after we find out who you are......... Have we finished the development of the new Laser Beta Blaster Gun?
WAS

posted 11-19-98 09:28 PM ET            

So, how's the game DJ, was it cool?

Also, saying any non-americans are excluded, makes the un-watchful rule him, & all non-americans out, but the truth is FIRAXIS has hired mostly Canadians to do this beta test. Why do you think so many are on this board, & how do they seem to know a lot about this game. It's all a bloody act damn you!!

posted 11-30-98 03:28 PM ET            

Found On Road Dead
Fixed Or Repaired Daily

FORD! FNORD! NIM!

posted 12-16-98 11:03 AM ET            

Arnelos, as this forum's recognise impartial statisticien, could you make a round up of the current suspected beta testers ???

posted 12-16-98 11:04 AM ET            

Arnelos, as this forum's recognise impartial statisticien, could you make a round up of the current suspected beta testers ???

If not, I'll just do it this week-end !!!

posted 11-30-98 08:35 AM ET            

"wheres your proof?" you ask.. well, im an
Aussie, so that prettymuch excludes me

But both YYYH and DJ are beta testers
THAT MUCH IS DEFINATE.

posted 11-30-98 03:24 PM ET            

We know what you're up to !!!

posted 12-16-98 11:03 AM ET            

Arnelos, as this forum's recognise impartial statisticien, could you make a round up of the current suspected beta testers ???

posted 12-16-98 11:05 AM ET            

Arnelos, as this forum's recognise impartial statisticien, could you make a round up of the current suspected beta testers ???

If not, I'll just do it this week-end !!!