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MoSe posted 05-07-99 01:31 PM ET
I met this board game years ago, it was the best I ever played, but it was way before mt connectivity age, and I couldn't gather a community of reliable players, so I let it slip in my memories room.
Now I come to know in firaxis-Hasbro topic that there's a thriving Diplomacy community online since a long time.
Oh, how I wasted my years...
That poses a seriuous threat to my actual SMAC commitment...
But my inertial mass tends to infinity, and I'll probably keep on dreaming how I could rock my life upside down...
and SMAC :|n...
Goobmeister posted 05-07-99 05:31 PM ET
MoSe, I will happily play PBEM Diplomacy with you, and I bet we could gather some converts from those here if we wanted to, or find D. players at the sites.
I still try to play this game by myself once a year or so, I gave up on finding local participants.
lets get something going.
Goob
Lloyd posted 05-07-99 06:06 PM ET
Funny that you should mention this...I thought about posting something similar yesterday afternoon, but decided it would be "off-topic". I'm interested...especially if anyone wants to play Machiavelli...
Lloyd
Goobmeister posted 05-07-99 06:10 PM ET
Machiavelli? Not the old pc game I assume, but a style of Dip.?
Meister Weizenkeim posted 05-07-99 06:20 PM ET
hey, sign me on. (as long as i don't have to play the cowardly Italians )
does anyone know a website to d/l the map. My copy of the boardgame is on another continent, hehe
Lloyd posted 05-07-99 06:51 PM ET
Machiavelli was a boardgame AH released in the late '70s--it was out of print for many years, but has recently made a comeback (order now!). It's Diplomacy played on a map of 15th-17th century Italy/SE France/western Balkan/Tunisia...you get to play powers like the Two Sicilies, Papacy, France, Venice, Florence, etc. Games are for 4-8 players and it's much easier to balance the game for the "wrong" number of players, unlike Diplomacy. Here's the killer element, though: money! Instead of Supply Centers, you earn income from your cities which is used to build/maintain units. This means that if someone is being attacked, aid is not necessarily military--allies can simply "send money" to help out. Money can also be used to subvert existing units in various ways--you can pay to order your opponent's unit to Hold, take a specific action, or even buy the unit outright and write your own move for it (expensive--but worth it). I think that the rules for the game are still posted at the Diplomatic pouch, but I haven't looked there in a long time.
Lloyd
Goobmeister posted 05-07-99 08:38 PM ET
Cool game, now that you mention it I think I do recall seeing the game once way way back.
tfs99 posted 05-07-99 11:08 PM ET
Good old Diplomacy ... my biggest problem was that I could never find anybody willing to play the game with me more than once.
IYKWIM&ITYD Mua-ha-ha-ha
Dip :n ... Ted S.
MoSe posted 05-10-99 08:21 AM ET
OH YES!
hmmmm, the friend that got the game vanished like an artifact....
I still have my charts. Well, somewhere...
I think I'll have to boot me up again.
Someone's taking me by the hand?
Gave it an extra 1/2 hour firday (blew up a dinner rendez-vous) but couldn't find the suggested Diplomatic Pouch URL.
Life is too short...
MoSe posted 05-10-99 08:28 AM ET
Oh, BTW, anyone wanting to play the old MicroProse "Machiavelli, the Prince" by e-mail?
MariOne
-someone said, I'm a heathen(?) scoundrel ...
Lloyd posted 05-10-99 08:31 AM ET
The Diplomatic Pouch is now located at:
http://www.igo.org/DipPouch/
Rules and maps for Machiavelli are under "variants" in the "Online Resources" section. The Pouch is still THE place to go for PBEM Diplomacy stuff--they have everything.
Lloyd
jimmytrick posted 05-10-99 10:41 PM ET
I found my old Avalon Hill Dipomacy game and a copy of The Dipomacy World or some such rag from 1977. Can't find the rest of my stuff, aw, the heck with it, lets SMAC!
dr_avalanche posted 05-11-99 08:38 PM ET
There is a Diplomacy server somewhere out there, JUDGE, that automatically process Diplomacy games of all variants. It's pretty reliable and has been running for several years by now. Can't find the URL though...
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Author	Topic: Diplomacy, the game, online
MoSe	posted 05-07-99 01:31 PM ET I met this board game years ago, it was the best I ever played, but it was way before mt connectivity age, and I couldn't gather a community of reliable players, so I let it slip in my memories room. Now I come to know in firaxis-Hasbro topic that there's a thriving Diplomacy community online since a long time. Oh, how I wasted my years... That poses a seriuous threat to my actual SMAC commitment... But my inertial mass tends to infinity, and I'll probably keep on dreaming how I could rock my life upside down... and SMAC :\|n...
Goobmeister	posted 05-07-99 05:31 PM ET MoSe, I will happily play PBEM Diplomacy with you, and I bet we could gather some converts from those here if we wanted to, or find D. players at the sites. I still try to play this game by myself once a year or so, I gave up on finding local participants. lets get something going. Goob
Lloyd	posted 05-07-99 06:06 PM ET Funny that you should mention this...I thought about posting something similar yesterday afternoon, but decided it would be "off-topic". I'm interested...especially if anyone wants to play Machiavelli... Lloyd
Goobmeister	posted 05-07-99 06:10 PM ET Machiavelli? Not the old pc game I assume, but a style of Dip.?
Meister Weizenkeim	posted 05-07-99 06:20 PM ET hey, sign me on. (as long as i don't have to play the cowardly Italians ) does anyone know a website to d/l the map. My copy of the boardgame is on another continent, hehe
Lloyd	posted 05-07-99 06:51 PM ET Machiavelli was a boardgame AH released in the late '70s--it was out of print for many years, but has recently made a comeback (order now!). It's Diplomacy played on a map of 15th-17th century Italy/SE France/western Balkan/Tunisia...you get to play powers like the Two Sicilies, Papacy, France, Venice, Florence, etc. Games are for 4-8 players and it's much easier to balance the game for the "wrong" number of players, unlike Diplomacy. Here's the killer element, though: money! Instead of Supply Centers, you earn income from your cities which is used to build/maintain units. This means that if someone is being attacked, aid is not necessarily military--allies can simply "send money" to help out. Money can also be used to subvert existing units in various ways--you can pay to order your opponent's unit to Hold, take a specific action, or even buy the unit outright and write your own move for it (expensive--but worth it). I think that the rules for the game are still posted at the Diplomatic pouch, but I haven't looked there in a long time. Lloyd
Goobmeister	posted 05-07-99 08:38 PM ET Cool game, now that you mention it I think I do recall seeing the game once way way back.
tfs99	posted 05-07-99 11:08 PM ET Good old Diplomacy ... my biggest problem was that I could never find anybody willing to play the game with me more than once. IYKWIM&ITYD Mua-ha-ha-ha Dip :n ... Ted S.
MoSe	posted 05-10-99 08:21 AM ET OH YES! hmmmm, the friend that got the game vanished like an artifact.... I still have my charts. Well, somewhere... I think I'll have to boot me up again. Someone's taking me by the hand? Gave it an extra 1/2 hour firday (blew up a dinner rendez-vous) but couldn't find the suggested Diplomatic Pouch URL. Life is too short...
MoSe	posted 05-10-99 08:28 AM ET Oh, BTW, anyone wanting to play the old MicroProse "Machiavelli, the Prince" by e-mail? MariOne -someone said, I'm a heathen(?) scoundrel ...
Lloyd	posted 05-10-99 08:31 AM ET The Diplomatic Pouch is now located at: http://www.igo.org/DipPouch/ Rules and maps for Machiavelli are under "variants" in the "Online Resources" section. The Pouch is still THE place to go for PBEM Diplomacy stuff--they have everything. Lloyd
jimmytrick	posted 05-10-99 10:41 PM ET I found my old Avalon Hill Dipomacy game and a copy of The Dipomacy World or some such rag from 1977. Can't find the rest of my stuff, aw, the heck with it, lets SMAC!
dr_avalanche	posted 05-11-99 08:38 PM ET There is a Diplomacy server somewhere out there, JUDGE, that automatically process Diplomacy games of all variants. It's pretty reliable and has been running for several years by now. Can't find the URL though...