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Gyllius posted 06-09-99 03:43 PM ET
Another PBEM is starting. I want to get everyone's preferences and than start the game on the 21st.
Settings:
* Blind research (more realistic)
* Huge random map
* Normal native life
Other preferences can be discussed.
I'll reserve the Gaian's for myself ans setup the game. Just let me know if you're intersted.
morn posted 06-09-99 11:55 PM ET
Sounds good.
Im in
Can I be Morgan or the university?
I came, I saw,I sat.
-Morn
MichaeltheGreat posted 06-10-99 01:43 AM ET
What are the players skill levels? I'm always good for more PBEM's with any faction, but I'm a Transcend/Ironman, so not very much fun for less experienced players.
Dhengis Kim posted 06-10-99 03:20 AM ET
Count me in. Prefers PK and high difficulty. Remaining settings not a major issue.
If cant play PK whatever other faction will do.
Have 5 years of CIV2 and may soon get divorced and fired as SMAC is getting all my spare time and when mail arrives then obviously you need to do your moves regardless of disturbances like having deadlines at work.
Gyllius posted 06-10-99 06:22 AM ET
Okay, so far the players are:
Gaians: Gyllius
Hive: Ceky
Morganites: Morn
PeaceKeepers: Dhengis Kim
So three slots are open.
Ceky and myself are new to this PBEM game, so I don't know if the level is high enough for MichaeltheGreat, but he's welcome to play if he wants. Just let me know.
Dhengis, what do you mean with high difficulty. Any specific gamesettings you refer to?
Dhengis Kim posted 06-10-99 07:33 AM ET
By high difficulty level I mean thinker or transcend - best transcend. Its not a must but I like it best that way as it keeps the AI from falling too far behind too easily and requires much more careful management of your cities. If others do not want it like this my general view is the higher the better.
Dhengis Kim posted 06-10-99 07:38 AM ET
To further clarify I am just referring to the citizen to transcend ladder of choices. The other settings (blind research, native life etc.) are not a problem.
laurens posted 06-10-99 07:44 AM ET
Hmmph!
My favourite taken up ... got to wait till you guys finish this one ...:p
Gyllius posted 06-10-99 08:14 AM ET
Laurens, what's your favourite? Maybe we can switch some factions, or try another faction, see it as a new challenge!
laurens posted 06-10-99 09:25 AM ET
"Mr. Yang, are you from China?
...........
Juz a joke.
Honestly, I really want to commend you on your bravery in taking on the Gaians...
That was not a prejudiced statement, really, coz I favored psi warfare. But the negative morale and police modifiers are bad.

I'm awaiting a PBEM game from MichealtheGreat, but haven't got any emails yet. Meanwhile, since your game commences on 21 June, you can put me on the floating list as the Spartans.
laurens posted 06-10-99 09:27 AM ET
My thoughts on game settings (which I feel would make for a tougher, more realistic game):
Completely randomized huge map, don't set anything else.
Blind research on
Fog of War on

Comments
MoSe posted 06-10-99 11:28 AM ET
As MtG said "I'm always good for more PBEM's with any faction".
I prefer the highest possible level too, but can accomodate for thinker (gghh... or even , ack, librarian).
Do you want to fill all factions with human players? You can always leave some to AI.
If you still look for someone, I'd pick University (rather than Miriam).
With 7 human players tho, timezones, or much more relevant, actual SMAC playing time windows are very critical for the pace of a PBEM. If you want to optimaze it, maybe not everybody would be able to pick his favorite faction, some arrangement must be made. The difference may result in 3 turns per week instead of 5-6, so it's NOT a minor point.
I have recently connected at home too, so my addiction allows me to be more or less available 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, @work my mailbox always open.
If you not already did it, I invite to join and use ACOL site, www.an.i-dentity.com/ac.cgi
MariOne
PS: laurens, Fog of War is not a game rule, just a visual preference each one can alter on his PC for each game he plays.
Nikiman posted 06-10-99 12:36 PM ET
Hi
I�m interessted, but I would prefer SLOW RESEARCH.
Another Cool Option is the where you steal technology when conquering a base.
Are you guys using enhancement 3.0 with U.S. versions (I�m too)
Nik
atomic94 posted 06-10-99 01:28 PM ET
I'll play. I'll take the UoP. Will you still play in my PBEM though Gyllius?
MoSe posted 06-10-99 01:35 PM ET
Hi Niki, I saw your new topic, but i'll answer you here.
You have to consider that playing against humans is different than having to face just the AI. I'm not sure if slowing the research would be appropriate in a PBEM.
Spoils of War (steal tech too when conquer) has been longly debated, and while Blind Research has still a lot of fans (I prefer it off but like to play blind too), a vast majority find SoW too easy, you have to use probes.
US 3.0 for me too
MariOne
Gyllius posted 06-11-99 01:34 PM ET
Okay, I think we have enough players now, so be patient, you'll hear from me in 9 days, 'cause I'm of to Norway tomorrow. Discussions on setting can go along, I'll take it all into consideration on the 21st...
Gyllius posted 06-21-99 06:20 AM ET
Okay, let the games begin!
I have set up the game with blind research, timewarp, on a huge random planet, with 7 human factions.
Gaians : Gyllius
Hive : Ceky
University : MoSe
Morganites : Morn
Spartans : Laurens
Atomic : Believers
Dhangis Kim : Peacekeepers
Is everybody OK with this? Just let me know if you are and also if you're not (or don't wanne play, then I'll replace that faction). Preferably on this thread.
So the first Gaian turn is played and the game is sent to Ceky.
Good Luck!
atomic94 posted 06-22-99 07:36 AM ET
WHAT????? Why am I playing as the believers I HATE miriam. Please can I play a different faction any other faction would be ok.
MoSe posted 06-22-99 08:22 AM ET
I forgot about this one!
I assume any non mentioned setting is left as default, that is Spolis of War OFF and Tech Stagnation OFF.
I said I could take any faction.
Now that the game already started, we could only switch factions with the ones that haven't get their turn yet. as long as this doesn't screw the turn passing timezones sequence.
I could switch with atomic94 if he wansts, but I'm already playing the Believers in 2 (or were they 3?) PBEMs, thus I'd prefer PKs (could settle for Sparta or Morgan, in that order), and we should be doing a 3-way shuffle.
In the end, if for atomic it's NO Believers or bust, I could play as Miriam one more time (a challenge indeed, but not my favorite).
We should also agree on rules:
-options, like allowing free communications, or in-game contact first like in single player; or not allowing base-trades with AI, since human factions can't.
-cheats, and there's a long debate and dedicated threads ongoing here. Even if you do not agree and want to use some cheats na bugs in the game, we must state it clearly before we start the game, so that everyone is warned. I could send you a basic rules.doc we use in nearly all PBEMs.
What has the level been set to?
Hi, laurens. Luckily our misunderstanding (my fault) in "good bug" was settled before we meet here ! btw, will we be allowed to use that new cheat ?
As the habit is catching, we should think to go in ACOL (www.planetsid.com) and register our PBEM there, and/or to Apolyton (apolyton.net/forums), to start a separate individual turn tracking thread.
Finally, to take advantage of my extended online time window, you should send all messages to BOTH my home and work e-mail: I can't read the work e-mailbox from home, but the home e-box is not very reliable.
Work: [email protected]
Home: [email protected]
Guess that's it 4 now
Let me know before I get my supposed UoP turn from Hive to play
MariOne
Gyllius posted 06-22-99 12:49 PM ET
Hmmm.. Some slight startingproblems. Ceky is not going to play along. I will setup a new game tonight or tomorrow morning (GMT+1)
Gaians: Gyllius
Hive: Atomic
University: MoSe
Morganites: Morn
Spartans: Laurens
Believers: AI(!)
PeaceKeepers: Dhengis Kim
Settings will be:
Thinker-Level
Blind Resaerch
TimeWarp
All Victories OK
Huge planet
Average rest...
NO SOW
NO slow Tech
Rules:
In-play contact as in Single Player Mode
No cheats unless discussed and agreed upon here.....
No trading bases
Everybody Okay with this?
I'll try to send Atomic the turn as soon as possible.
Good Luck again...
Gyllius posted 06-23-99 04:31 PM ET
Okay, the first turn has been sent to the Hive (that's Atomic). Mongoose will be playing the Believers (so no AI-factions in this game).
laurens posted 06-23-99 09:20 PM ET
Hi guys!
Sorry to reply so late, juz managed to reply to Gyllius' wake-up call.
To Mose, the little conversation that we had was perfectly alright, at least we can get to know each other better - an unfair advantage here *hiaks*
Luckily the Believers was taken by Mongoose, coz if it's a Thinker AI I suppose that will be a foregone conclusion.
laurens posted 06-24-99 10:06 AM ET
my email: [email protected]
Gyllius posted 06-25-99 04:53 AM ET
Okay, tha game is on it's way and there is a new thread to keep track of the turns, and it can also provide a place to utter your thought's about progress on Planet.
The name is Planet's Garden.
This thread will selfdestruct in 10 days.....
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Author	Topic: New PBEM starting June 21st
Gyllius	posted 06-09-99 03:43 PM ET Another PBEM is starting. I want to get everyone's preferences and than start the game on the 21st. Settings: * Blind research (more realistic) * Huge random map * Normal native life Other preferences can be discussed. I'll reserve the Gaian's for myself ans setup the game. Just let me know if you're intersted.
morn	posted 06-09-99 11:55 PM ET Sounds good. Im in Can I be Morgan or the university? I came, I saw,I sat. -Morn
MichaeltheGreat	posted 06-10-99 01:43 AM ET What are the players skill levels? I'm always good for more PBEM's with any faction, but I'm a Transcend/Ironman, so not very much fun for less experienced players.
Dhengis Kim	posted 06-10-99 03:20 AM ET Count me in. Prefers PK and high difficulty. Remaining settings not a major issue. If cant play PK whatever other faction will do. Have 5 years of CIV2 and may soon get divorced and fired as SMAC is getting all my spare time and when mail arrives then obviously you need to do your moves regardless of disturbances like having deadlines at work.
Gyllius	posted 06-10-99 06:22 AM ET Okay, so far the players are: Gaians: Gyllius Hive: Ceky Morganites: Morn PeaceKeepers: Dhengis Kim So three slots are open. Ceky and myself are new to this PBEM game, so I don't know if the level is high enough for MichaeltheGreat, but he's welcome to play if he wants. Just let me know. Dhengis, what do you mean with high difficulty. Any specific gamesettings you refer to?
Dhengis Kim	posted 06-10-99 07:33 AM ET By high difficulty level I mean thinker or transcend - best transcend. Its not a must but I like it best that way as it keeps the AI from falling too far behind too easily and requires much more careful management of your cities. If others do not want it like this my general view is the higher the better.
Dhengis Kim	posted 06-10-99 07:38 AM ET To further clarify I am just referring to the citizen to transcend ladder of choices. The other settings (blind research, native life etc.) are not a problem.
laurens	posted 06-10-99 07:44 AM ET Hmmph! My favourite taken up ... got to wait till you guys finish this one ...:p
Gyllius	posted 06-10-99 08:14 AM ET Laurens, what's your favourite? Maybe we can switch some factions, or try another faction, see it as a new challenge!
laurens	posted 06-10-99 09:25 AM ET "Mr. Yang, are you from China? ........... Juz a joke. Honestly, I really want to commend you on your bravery in taking on the Gaians... That was not a prejudiced statement, really, coz I favored psi warfare. But the negative morale and police modifiers are bad. I'm awaiting a PBEM game from MichealtheGreat, but haven't got any emails yet. Meanwhile, since your game commences on 21 June, you can put me on the floating list as the Spartans.
laurens	posted 06-10-99 09:27 AM ET My thoughts on game settings (which I feel would make for a tougher, more realistic game): Completely randomized huge map, don't set anything else. Blind research on Fog of War on Comments
MoSe	posted 06-10-99 11:28 AM ET As MtG said "I'm always good for more PBEM's with any faction". I prefer the highest possible level too, but can accomodate for thinker (gghh... or even , ack, librarian). Do you want to fill all factions with human players? You can always leave some to AI. If you still look for someone, I'd pick University (rather than Miriam). With 7 human players tho, timezones, or much more relevant, actual SMAC playing time windows are very critical for the pace of a PBEM. If you want to optimaze it, maybe not everybody would be able to pick his favorite faction, some arrangement must be made. The difference may result in 3 turns per week instead of 5-6, so it's NOT a minor point. I have recently connected at home too, so my addiction allows me to be more or less available 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, @work my mailbox always open. If you not already did it, I invite to join and use ACOL site, www.an.i-dentity.com/ac.cgi MariOne PS: laurens, Fog of War is not a game rule, just a visual preference each one can alter on his PC for each game he plays.
Nikiman	posted 06-10-99 12:36 PM ET Hi I�m interessted, but I would prefer SLOW RESEARCH. Another Cool Option is the where you steal technology when conquering a base. Are you guys using enhancement 3.0 with U.S. versions (I�m too) Nik
atomic94	posted 06-10-99 01:28 PM ET I'll play. I'll take the UoP. Will you still play in my PBEM though Gyllius?
MoSe	posted 06-10-99 01:35 PM ET Hi Niki, I saw your new topic, but i'll answer you here. You have to consider that playing against humans is different than having to face just the AI. I'm not sure if slowing the research would be appropriate in a PBEM. Spoils of War (steal tech too when conquer) has been longly debated, and while Blind Research has still a lot of fans (I prefer it off but like to play blind too), a vast majority find SoW too easy, you have to use probes. US 3.0 for me too MariOne
Gyllius	posted 06-11-99 01:34 PM ET Okay, I think we have enough players now, so be patient, you'll hear from me in 9 days, 'cause I'm of to Norway tomorrow. Discussions on setting can go along, I'll take it all into consideration on the 21st...
Gyllius	posted 06-21-99 06:20 AM ET Okay, let the games begin! I have set up the game with blind research, timewarp, on a huge random planet, with 7 human factions. Gaians : Gyllius Hive : Ceky University : MoSe Morganites : Morn Spartans : Laurens Atomic : Believers Dhangis Kim : Peacekeepers Is everybody OK with this? Just let me know if you are and also if you're not (or don't wanne play, then I'll replace that faction). Preferably on this thread. So the first Gaian turn is played and the game is sent to Ceky. Good Luck!
atomic94	posted 06-22-99 07:36 AM ET WHAT????? Why am I playing as the believers I HATE miriam. Please can I play a different faction any other faction would be ok.
MoSe	posted 06-22-99 08:22 AM ET I forgot about this one! I assume any non mentioned setting is left as default, that is Spolis of War OFF and Tech Stagnation OFF. I said I could take any faction. Now that the game already started, we could only switch factions with the ones that haven't get their turn yet. as long as this doesn't screw the turn passing timezones sequence. I could switch with atomic94 if he wansts, but I'm already playing the Believers in 2 (or were they 3?) PBEMs, thus I'd prefer PKs (could settle for Sparta or Morgan, in that order), and we should be doing a 3-way shuffle. In the end, if for atomic it's NO Believers or bust, I could play as Miriam one more time (a challenge indeed, but not my favorite). We should also agree on rules: -options, like allowing free communications, or in-game contact first like in single player; or not allowing base-trades with AI, since human factions can't. -cheats, and there's a long debate and dedicated threads ongoing here. Even if you do not agree and want to use some cheats na bugs in the game, we must state it clearly before we start the game, so that everyone is warned. I could send you a basic rules.doc we use in nearly all PBEMs. What has the level been set to? Hi, laurens. Luckily our misunderstanding (my fault) in "good bug" was settled before we meet here ! btw, will we be allowed to use that new cheat ? As the habit is catching, we should think to go in ACOL (www.planetsid.com) and register our PBEM there, and/or to Apolyton (apolyton.net/forums), to start a separate individual turn tracking thread. Finally, to take advantage of my extended online time window, you should send all messages to BOTH my home and work e-mail: I can't read the work e-mailbox from home, but the home e-box is not very reliable. Work: [email protected] Home: [email protected] Guess that's it 4 now Let me know before I get my supposed UoP turn from Hive to play MariOne
Gyllius	posted 06-22-99 12:49 PM ET Hmmm.. Some slight startingproblems. Ceky is not going to play along. I will setup a new game tonight or tomorrow morning (GMT+1) Gaians: Gyllius Hive: Atomic University: MoSe Morganites: Morn Spartans: Laurens Believers: AI(!) PeaceKeepers: Dhengis Kim Settings will be: Thinker-Level Blind Resaerch TimeWarp All Victories OK Huge planet Average rest... NO SOW NO slow Tech Rules: In-play contact as in Single Player Mode No cheats unless discussed and agreed upon here..... No trading bases Everybody Okay with this? I'll try to send Atomic the turn as soon as possible. Good Luck again...
Gyllius	posted 06-23-99 04:31 PM ET Okay, the first turn has been sent to the Hive (that's Atomic). Mongoose will be playing the Believers (so no AI-factions in this game).
laurens	posted 06-23-99 09:20 PM ET Hi guys! Sorry to reply so late, juz managed to reply to Gyllius' wake-up call. To Mose, the little conversation that we had was perfectly alright, at least we can get to know each other better - an unfair advantage here hiaks Luckily the Believers was taken by Mongoose, coz if it's a Thinker AI I suppose that will be a foregone conclusion.
laurens	posted 06-24-99 10:06 AM ET my email: [email protected]
Gyllius	posted 06-25-99 04:53 AM ET Okay, tha game is on it's way and there is a new thread to keep track of the turns, and it can also provide a place to utter your thought's about progress on Planet. The name is Planet's Garden. This thread will selfdestruct in 10 days.....