posted 05-24-99 06:01 PM ET         

Like, we are mobilizing our defenses pronto. Just in case someone is foolish enough to test us.

Don't.

Icosahedron
Iowa Free State

posted 05-24-99 07:11 PM ET            

I have dispatched over half of my military to Kentucky. They have engaged the GLF and have driven them back into GLF territory. For now, I will not send nuclear missiles at GLF targets, as you have not used any such weapons against me. Our new prototyped hovercraft easily smashed through armored columns.

In West Virginia, we have been pushed back to the southern part. We are awaiting reinforcements from the CSA and the APP. Meanwhile the Confederate fleet has succesfully blockaded all CUA ports and continues naval bombardment. The nuclear missiles are in place are are being given the launch codes now. I have bombed the city of Annapolis with a hydorgen bomb. Over half of the city was incinerated in the blast.

Korian, we are willing to use the referendum on the West Virginia matter. Kentucky will remain a part of the CSA, at all costs!

posted 05-24-99 07:45 PM ET         

The People declare a formal state of war in the CSA-CUA territorial dispute over West Virginia. Our forces have been mobilized for quite some time and we have dispatched the following to the area:

25,000 Hyperion-armored well-trained soldiers equipped with an array of weapons.
12 Squadrons of modified APP MiGs (Equipped with lasers)
1,000 Blitzreig Assault Buggies equipped with dual vulcan cannons as well as a single rocket launcher for Anti-Tank and SAM purposes.
500 Bradley II APCs with single anti-tank cannon.

If any more soldiers are required we shall dispatch more.

The APP will NOT invade the GLF or CUA beyond West Virginia. We view this as a territorial dispute and nothing more.

The APP will NOT participate in biological, chemical or nuclear warfare. If ANY nation fires such weapons at the APP we shall declare a state of total war and shall not cease until one or the other has been exterminated.

The APP has moved the Universe Engine's location to a site deep under the ocean floor.

The People have sent an enormous force of Engineers to refit The Pax. The Pax will, from now on, be known as The Mars. It is equipped with surveillance and SDI equipment. With such equipment if any nation is even planning to launch a nuclear, chemical or biolgoical weapon at us, we will know and will follow the above decleraation about such forms of war.

The People agree with President Korian on the motion to continue with the conference in Twin Cities. The People want nothing more than to see a speedy end to this conflict.

END TRANSMISSION

On non-war related topics, the APP would like to announce that it has begun study into the disintergrated Human Genome project. We believe learning about the roots of humankind will have many useful and interesting ramifications on the everyday life of APP citizens.

We shall still send our specialists to aid Vosperia in creating a fusion reactor.

posted 05-24-99 08:17 PM ET            

IC: The TF has declared that it will only fight the GLF in West VA and in TF territory.

IFS: Thank you for the fusion/laser trade. I will sedn info on the laser at once. We are already constructing our first fusion reactor in Houston.

On the battlefront, we have sent our first Laser Hovertanks with HH Armor to the battle. They have performed well. We have also begun using Conventional ICBMs on the CUA. These are loaded with thousands of pounds of C4. They have decimated military coumpounds in Maryland.

In other areas, Marine divisions have begun storming Baltimore, covered by sea fire, fighters, bombers, and Apaches. We are also launching cruise missles from subs onto main military installations.

posted 05-24-99 09:09 PM ET         

OOC:
We have moved rather slowly through the technogical field, the Hyperion system being the APP's only unique discovery. Supercomputers already exist, it is just their utility which the APP is making unique.

posted 05-24-99 09:44 PM ET            

We have expanded farther into Mexico and now virtually control the whole of Mexico. We are moving the Mexican Liberation Army back to Kentucky to further discourage any other attacks.

posted 05-24-99 10:43 PM ET         

CSA:

Chancellor, in all due honesty a 4 million-man army in a nation composed of a fraction of the USA is, well, silly. The PRC (China) has only a million man army and it is the largest, and most powerful, in the world. 4 million men in the military is an enormous amount, especially when these are just raw soldiers. So either you've developed cloning or your nation is oriented to military more than the Spartans.

CUA:

Karok, please, you're going to destroy the majority of the world over West Virginia?
Not only is that implausable, considering you never even announced the CUA, a fanatacal state no less, had developed weapons of incredible power but it's also extremly stupid.

If you want every nation in the former US on your butt (Korian was the one to sponsor this no-nuclear thing in the first place, I doubt he'll stand by such a ludicrous use of the weapons,) so be it. Even if alone, the APP will hunt you and your people down and exterminate them.

GLF:

posted 05-24-99 10:49 PM ET         

Picker:

I think that's a bit too complicated for RPing.

I'd rather propose that we all maintain information on our current forces. You don't have to announce every manuever and gathering, but keep a record. And, of course, keep it realistic.

When war ensues, everybody announces what they have and, from there, more realistic conclusions can be made. Instead of the "I conquered this stuff and you lost. Ha ha."

IC:

CUA:

posted 05-25-99 09:24 AM ET         

The consensus seems to be to hold the convention in the Twin Cities. The doors are open now.

For are part we have decommissioned our biological, chemical, and fission warheads (retained the fusion-bombs); we are replacing them with high-density metallic hydrogen explosives, which we have recently learned to handle. Sadly, 15 of our most prominent researcher were killed, in the process of finding suitable methods for selectively stabilizing/destabilizing the metal, due to a massive explosion at the research site. This will slow our research in materials technology greatly, as the architect of the Tensile Quantum Geometry paradigm was among those killed. This new payload greatly supercedes C4 and fuel-air bombs, with a mass-to-explosion-efficiency ratio of 25:1 relative to TNT (a plutonium bomb is about 50:1, and a fusion bomb about 500:1). As an added "benefit", the gaseous hydrogen that is released during the explosive decompression phase will ignite to scorch the area surrounding ground zero.

While not as powerful as a fusion bomb, the cleanliness of the blast is commendable. We are manufacturing bombs, shells, and bullets with this new material, as well as retrofitting delivery systems to handle the new material.

We hope this will be enough resources devoted to war to deter agression for some time to come. We appreciate that our neighbors have honored our commitment to neutrality, and we are simply being overcautious because, frankly, the CUA debacle scared the pants off us. As another small nation surrounded by great neighbors, we understand the CUA's panicky response, though we do not condone their methods.

President Korian, apparently some spies from the CUA compromised our computer files and stole an older version of the hovercraft design. That explains their use against you.
We had the forsight to embed a disable signal receptor in the circuitry which is not in the stolen plans and which always defaults to the same signal until it is reset (which we always do when commisioning our hardware). We are sending the default signal pattern to you, so that you can disable the hovertanks being used against you by the CSA; we do not consider this taking sides, as the CSA would not have the technology had they not stolen it, so we are simply enforcing our intellectual property rights. However, we will not divulge the location of the signal receptor in the circuitry, nor how to reset it, thereby retaining a defense should the unimaginable day ever occur that the GLF should consider us enemies.

Point of fact: hot fusion creates high energy alpha particles; these must be stopped; the stopping material becomes radioactive, wears out, and must be disposed of. This is not clean.

And as for the magnetic field integrity, that is easily compromised by conventional explosives. Be smart, don't build ready-made fusion bombs in your own territory that any half-witted terrorist can use against you. (And if you are relying on the power, that only makes you more vulnerable!)

Enough said.

Welcome to the convention.

Icosahedron
Iowa Free State

posted 05-25-99 01:40 PM ET         

We extend the same deal to everyone. We want to see the environment as clean as reasonably possible.

(OCC: Picker, a force 625,000 strong from only a fraction of Canada? The whole country currently has only 25 million, and it's growth rate is very low. Even if we allow doubling of population over the next 30 years (unlikely), that's only 50 million, of which no more than 13 million (25%) would be expected to be in your territory. Presumably, your regular army would not include those under 16 or over 50, nor those that are medically incapable, so that cuts the available people down by at least 50% to about 6.5 million. So you are saying that almost 1 in 10 of your available adults is a soldier? Well, as you say, your people like to be militant and rattle sabres. Okay, but don't expect me to believe your economy and research to be too good -- so where do you get all the equipment to outfit your soldiers?)

Icosahedron
Iowa Free State

posted 05-25-99 04:49 PM ET            

We are at a ceasefire with the GLF at this point. Our people are outraged about the loss of Kentucky and have vowed to get it back, at a later date.

Army Stuff:

1,000,000 man army
5,000,000 reservists
All other is classified

posted 05-25-99 05:10 PM ET            

800,000 man army
50,000 tanks
5,000 hovertanks
1,000 Apaches
3,000 fighters
2,000 bombers
300 space fighters
1 space battlecruiser
1 space station
200 subs
500 destroyers
250 AEGIS cruisers
100 battleships
75 carriers

posted 05-25-99 07:27 PM ET         

For more vague things like Space Battlecruisers and IFS Hovertanks we suggest a little bit of info on how the things work, we'll get the ball rolling.

Also, for people who are keeping things classified. Be sure to have an idea of what your 'classified' really means. So you can keep track when you're deploying, recruiting, dying or whatever.

IC:

The APP's military recruitment system is a bit different than that of the former US system.

For each generation, the APP selects 1,000,000 of its citizens 16-20 years of age and drafts them into the military immediately.

From there, they are trained for 3 years in harsh battle conditions in the use of all weaponry, vehicles and are disciplined.

After this, they are put into small teams and sent to battle to the death. First in small army vs. army battles and eventually in tiny, half a dozen man squadrons.

The surviving 300,000, now hardened, elite men are made official ground soldiers of the APP. Men of this type shall always be refered to in APP documents as "Elite."

We know this is a brutal system, but the APP favors quality over quantity.

APP military strength is:

Army-
300,000 Elite Soldiers
(Trained in the aforementioned method, they wear armor and carry laser rifles and high powered impact cannons)
200,000 Soldiers
(Equipped as elite soldiers, but have merely been trained)
25,000 Speedbike Calvary
(Soldiers riding on armored and armed motorcycles)
25,000 Blitzreig Assault Buggies
(Fast moving lightly armored dune-buggies equipped with vulcan cannons and rocket launchers)
10,000 Bradley II APCs
(Heavily armored APCs with single anti-tank cannon)
10,000 Ironholm Speeder Tanks
(Heavily armored tanks with single cannon, claymore mines and anti-personnel rocket launcher which move swiftly but cannot move far without having to refuel)
2,000,000 Reservists

Navy-
3,000 Destroyers
1,000 APP Cruisers
(Fast moving cruisers armed with moderately-sized cannons and submarine warfare weapons as well as an SAM launcher)
1,500 APP Submarines
(Small submarines equipped with SAM launcher, torpedo bay and conning tower gun)
{Classified} APP Hyperion Submarines
{Classified} APP Hyperion Transports

Air Force-
2,000 Modified MiG 29s
750 APP S-MiGs
(Stealth MiG 29s)
1,000 Apaches

posted 05-25-99 10:16 PM ET            

IC: I think that my scientists are getting close to the trick of "invisibility"(making light bend around a person). We have succesfully made a dime invisible but have found it hard to do on anything larger, we will keep you informed.

posted 05-26-99 01:50 PM ET            

*end non-RPG*

So where exactly is this war going? I
hope we weren't declared a casualty already,
for the NCGU has decided not to take part
in any aggressive activity unless our
territory is affected. We WILL defend, but
the war between the GLF and the CSA actually
does not concern us. However, I propose a
continental ban on ABC weapons.(I believe
this has either been proposed or is already
an active treaty, but I wanted to make sure).

The build-up of Nuuk is currently in its final stages. Some of the finest artists and
best architects from all over the world have
been participating in this project, which
eventually will result in a glass-domed
biosphere for about 400,000 people.

The recent elections have shown that the
government's policy of peace and cooperation
is well accepted by the people. Results follow:

SDP (Social Democrats, my party): 38.7 %
ULDP (Union Liberal Democrats, my coalition
partner): 14.6 %
CDU (Conservative Democratic Union): 33.2 %
ISP (Independent Socialists): 7.6 %
AGEP (Allied Green Ecologists): 5.0 %

Other parties didn't cut the 5% barrier.

Military of the NCGU:
Our military is well-trained, but we don't have many soldiers (primarily because, although Greenland has a much higher population density than 50 years ago, our
population is much smaller than that of most
of your countries).

Regular army: 250,000 men
Reserve: 1.5 million

posted 05-26-99 06:40 PM ET            

IFS: I am going to the conference, we would like your information on Cold Fusion, becuase we have only a simple version, and have been focusing on other energy resources, including a way to produce Anti-matter cheap. Please transmit your information to Berkley, thank you.

CSA: We will provide assistance, however our military is defensive, entirely, and cannot assist in more than providing weapons and technology. We will provide you with our new weapon, a superaccelorater, which accelerates a grain of salt to speeds found in supercolliders such as the tevatron, killing the person nearly instantly if correctly aimed, although it is a rapid repeat fire gun, breaking through any sheilding.

All other Socialists: We are sending the weapon schematics to you.

CUA: We urge you, stop this war, or we will all die. Please. Oh yes, otherwise we will nuke you.

My forces are 100,000 strong, all in advanced armor and weaponry, and 20,000 reserves.

posted 05-26-99 09:01 PM ET            

Commander-in-Chief rushes into the room.

Steve: Pick, c'mere, you gotta see this.
Stereo System: Mouth mouth mouth.
Denny: What?
Steve: You gotta see this for your self.
Denny: What?(shuts off stereo system)
Steve: C'MON!
Denny: This better be good.

15 minutes later at research laboratory.

Denny: So what was I supposed to see?
Brian: Hey Pick.

Denny glances around room.

Steve: It's more of a matter of what you weren't supposed to see.
Brian: Ha ha ha! I did it Pick!
Denny: You f*!king b@#*!$d. I can't believe you figured it out. Ha ha ha! I told you making him head of research and development would work out Steve.
Brian: It's still not perfect. I can't see a f#@king thing but... you can't see me either.
Denny: You can't see?
Brian: Yeah. The light bends around my face too, and light has to enter your eyes for you to see. Also you might want to look in this direction.

Petrie waves his arms around. The air shimmers at their passage.

posted 05-27-99 01:25 PM ET         

Korak, we respect the rights of all religions as long as they do not try to force their ideals on the rest of society.

Al Gore, I did try to explain the mechanics of the hovertank. In essence, it is like an inverted gyroscope, where the outside hull (icosahedron) tumbles around the inner hull (tetrahedron) along the natural axes of the icosahedron The direction of tumbling can be altered rapidly so that thrust can be quickly redirected. The tumbling can also be tranlated into forward motion, like engaging a flywheel. And the internal tetrahedron can move either in lock step with the outer hull (e.g., when the pilot wants to change his facing direction), or the outer hull can free-wheel around the inner, allowing storage of motion. A transmission system allows the spinning of the outer shell to be decreased to accelerate or change direction, and increased to decelerate or change direction.

Each point of the internal tetrahedron is mounted with an energy gun (swappable gun attachments allow easy upgrading of weaponry), and these can fire in concert or singly. The triangular plates on the outer hull are modular and can also be swapped for better armor as it becomes available. The thrusters are also upgradable when necessary.

Icosahedron
Iowa Free State

posted 05-30-99 07:58 PM ET            

Meanwhile, near Houston........

posted 05-30-99 10:25 PM ET         

The real story is that Korian gave me a large supply of nuclear weapons in exchange for New York and New Jersey.

posted 05-30-99 11:41 PM ET            

IC: My scientists have found a way to bend light around an object, thus rendering it invisible, I will be sending the specs for this tech to all of my allies.

posted 05-31-99 07:30 PM ET         

While we would like to link the Universe Engine to your machine, due to the risk of infiltration the UE is connected to a sole terminal whose exact location is confidential. This terminal is disconncted from the outside world and is mainly used as a backup system in case anything should ever happen to the UE.

Meanwhile...

After hearing of the GLF's theft of the people's prized Hyperion system, riots broke out in New Providence, Anchorage and Seattle. The police attempted a peaceful end to the conflict, but after lives were being taken by the rebels we would stand by no more and the police opened fire upon the dissidents. 2,400 APP citizens were liquidated.

We hope you are happy, Korian.

The APP has finished its Universe Engine, the premise has changed somewhat. The machine still runs the random law/check functions, but has a pre-sentient mind within it. This thought pattern is "rewarded" for succesful discoveries, and remembers all of them. In this way, the Universe Engine will slowly become more and more intelligent about the world of physics until its random documents become orderly, designed laws of the scientific realm.

To help this process, the Universe Engine has been given no data besides the context of the English language. In this way, the UE will discover such simple things as fire and the wheel on its.

We would like to note that the UE discovered fire after 1.23 seconds, and had perfected an easily-applicable form of the Wheel in a minute. If it can keep up at this pace it shall soon be more intelligent than a billion Einsteins.

posted 05-31-99 09:00 PM ET         

Korian, nevertheless, the Hyperion system was created by the APP and many of our people were enraged by such news of our brief enemy having acquired it through ill means.

We do not condone the acts of these rebels, Korian, but we could find ourselves on much better terms if you did not take that which was created by the labor of the People.

posted 05-31-99 09:45 PM ET            

Korian: Thank you for linking them. They are trading info now.

Galen: Yes, we have our most sophisticated anti-hackware installed, so just tell me if you want to hook up.

posted 06-01-99 12:19 AM ET         

Perhaps so, but the APP does not do such things during a cease-fire or peace settlement. In the very least the GLF President could've tried to not declare such a thing on public transmission frequency. Atleast in that manner our people would not have heard about it and would not have led to the liquidation of over two thousand.

On the point of the Universe Engine, we are afraid we cannot. While multiple supercomputing systems would be a grand idea, we simply can't allow the possibility of infiltration of any kind even against impossible odds. Predictions state that in three to four decades the Universe Engine shall reach complete coherent thought and could revolutionize the march of technology ten fold. To even allow the possibility of tapping a geyser of such information is too dangerous. You may send scientists to monitor, manually transfer and use data inside the UE. But nothing more.

Vosperia:

posted 06-01-99 10:20 PM ET            

Picker:
Please, you realize to curve the light around a body does not mean to mask it's gravitational feild, or it's presence anyway. We are sure that we can detect and respond to your attacks. We will not give into threats. We refuse to pay for our peace.

posted 06-03-99 11:54 AM ET         

But it wasn't controlled at all. This explains the extreme weather patterns our neighbors have been observing over the past few days. The black hole exploded in a blast 100 times greater than an H-bomb. We few in the deep research bunker seem to be the only ones who have survived, everything else is destroyed. The horror is unimaginable.

Iowa Free State is no more.

(final transmission)

posted 06-03-99 02:41 PM ET         

IC:

GLF:

We sincerely hope you do not support the actions of Vosperia making blatant threats of violence against the LSP.

Meanwhile...

The APP has mobilized an expeditionary force to the former-IFS territories, gathering any fragments of what is left for study. Along with them are relief teams and volunteers, to comb the ruins for any survivors. Any and all survivors shall be granted asylum in the APP until the Congress can deciede on exactly what to do with them.

Like our allies, the APP has begun setting up infared and radar/sonar listening stations throughout its borders.

An annual report of the Universe Engine's 'world' would reveal that the UE is approximately at the iron age, and is rapidly approaching the renaissance, it is gaining coherence at an incredible pace, and its former unintelligble gibberish-documents have becoming all the more concise.

We have also begun the construction of a purely research-oriented base surrounding the Universe Engine. Our allies may freely send a research team of up to 5,000 men to the base. They may study and apply any of the UE's data freely, as shipments of proper equipment and materials can be delivered upon request.

posted 06-04-99 01:35 PM ET         

It's all gone.

We thank everyone for their rescue efforts; we are too demoralized to do much ourselves. Suicide is on everyone's mind, but none of us will allow ourselves the luxury. Our great land, which we worked so hard for, had such dreams for, gone in a puff of smoke.

As for the future, we would like to set up a research lab in orbit (or on the moon) where we can continue our experiments. We were so close ...

But we have nothing, no money, only our knowledge. We will die an agonizing death of the mind if we cannot divert ourselves from the horror of the event, and continuing the research seems the only thing left to us.

We only ask for the tools we need, a safe place (space) to continue, and the freedom to proceed with our discoveries in applying the Tensile Quantum Geometry paradigm. The fruits of our research is our only method of payment.

We will not be playing with singularities for a while. We want to pursue the idea that wormholes can be created by inducing vibrations in the crystalline substructure of space.

-icosahedron
The Dispossed (the remnants of Iowa Free State)

posted 06-04-99 05:33 PM ET         

I'm with Korian on this one, no aliens. If this thread goes on long enough to reach space and such, so be it, but right now everything is still relatively near-future. And I'd like it to stay that way.

Spider, if you want to be in why not take part of South America? Everything except Venezuela and Columbia is free game.

IC:

Icosahedron:

Our teams are collecting the remnants of the former IFS to send to lab teams for study, but we wish to make a simple request. Once you have stationed yourselves with proper lab equipment we wish that you will take the remnants and dispose of any related to the singularity device. Simply because we realize that, should such research be allowed to circulate, one day a person twisted enough to use it as a weapon may arise, and at such a point there is no miracle that could save humanity from extinction. We want to make sure that such horrific possible-weapons are buried with your people, never to be used again.

GLF:

Due to this tragedy our people have no desire for future conflicts, despite past transgressions. We lay down our arms, President, and extend a formal peace treaty. We urge the LSP to do the same.

Meanwhile...

The APP wishes that, in light of this recent tragedy, the nations of the former US move for peace and unity. And perhaps it would be fitting if we did so in coirdenance with ancient tradition, by holding an olympiad. Are there any fellow nations who agree with our people?

OOC:

posted 06-04-99 11:32 PM ET            

Isocahedron: After much thought, I would like to offer you the position of head of the research department. I can see that you have the same commitment to research that I do.

posted 06-05-99 03:50 PM ET            

We have entered Minnesota and taken it in the IFS's absence. We also have come across the technology for the light bending, which is rather primative actually, compared to some of what we can do at Berkley. We have also synthisezed element number 112 at Berkley, and are naming it Hawkium, after scientist Stephen Hawking. This element has an atomic mass of 271. We also synthisezed element number 111, with an atomic mass of 168. It is named "smacuim".
We have decided that, in light of the statement of Vosperia that they could take one of our territories, to officially inagurate a cyberdefense agency.

We will send athletes to the Olympics. However, we would like to see a Quake 4, Malice or Halflife 2 deathmatch event. Which of course, we will win.

APCSG: Oregon is our territory, and so it it's surrounding waters. We lay claim to all of the sea within the triangle made by Hawii, the southern tip of Washington, and the southern tip of California (Baja). You are within our territory and if you do not leave immediately we will have to take you out.

News Release:
Mircosoft and Nanotech, two of the baby Microsofts, are merging into Microsoft. Northwest Coalition and LSP have expressed concern that they will take over. Microsoft has reinterated that AOL has a large empire as well.

posted 06-07-99 04:20 PM ET         

Picker, Galen, et al, thanks for all your generous offers. JT 3 has the space in space right now, and we want to get as far from the disaster as possible so we don't have to think about it. Also, we prefer the relative autonomy of the space station, as we fear becoming lackeys to even well-meaning sponsors.

Al Gore Rhythm, we appreciate and understand your concerns, and we empathize. All we can say is that we are the only ones who know how to create a singularity, and we will not be sharing or writing it down anywhere. You could kill us, I suppose, but that would not stop a determined researcher from cracking the secret, because the more general dissemination of the Tensile Quantum Geometry is not a reversible process, and will soon be a standard University offering. Like nuclear fission, singularity mechanics has been demonstrated and we can not just close our eyes to the facts.

We look forward to applying our efforts towards humanitarian goals; if singularities will solve a critical future problem, we will have no compunction about using them. We would never knowingly allow them to be used as weapons. We will be based in space where any accidents will have minimal effect, and we will henceforth to be carefully insulated from causing damage to others by our research.

posted 06-07-99 05:44 PM ET         

Let's name it Discovery -- what else?! (And it fits with the Freedom motif.)

posted 06-08-99 05:27 PM ET            

We have launched the Voyager to send up the final peice of the space elevator. The elevator will be used to launch the first manned missions to Mars, next year.

posted 06-09-99 12:26 PM ET         

A considerable but not unreasonable amount of energy is needed to open and maintain the hole. However, the hole is not always stable, and we have had rats disappear into never-never land. The stability seems to be affected by nearby electromagnetic disturbances, as the frequency of rat loss increased during the recent period of sun spot activity. Also, a hole will not open in the interior of a lead-lined sphere, so dense matter appears to prevent the establishing of a hole.

We are working on an electromagnetic shielding field emitter now, which will, if it works as planned, stabilize a hole indefinitely.

The energy needed to create the holes varies as the area of the hole's cross-section, but does not depend on distance traversed.

posted 06-09-99 10:12 PM ET            

By the way, Collins, what grudge are you holding? The last few Flame Wars you were in were between you and AoYoS.