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Topic: Conquest
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President Korian |
posted 05-19-99 04:36 PM ET
For those of you that have heard of it, I want this thread to be like the Great Empires thread in Non-SMAC. Claim a country or countries, and do your best to take over other areas.I am the head of the English Speaking Union, composed of Great Britain and the US. We are a democratic nation with a free market economy, and we highly value knowledge.
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JT 3
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posted 05-19-99 04:59 PM ET
Oh, so we're getting big territories, huh? Well, then, I claim the European Union, covering all of Europe(except England) and western Russia. The Capital is Paris. We strive towards knowledge and economy. |
President Korian
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posted 05-19-99 05:11 PM ET
The difference is my union is plausible, while yours would never happen. To make it more realistic, I would drop Russia, and either claim the former Warsaw Pact, Germany, Austria, and Italy, or France, the Low Countries, and Spain. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-19-99 05:14 PM ET
I would like to claim to former USSR countries if you wouldnt mind JT. |
JT 3
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posted 05-19-99 05:31 PM ET
No, go ahead and have them, Korian is right.Okay, I claim: France Germany Italy Spain Greece Austria Hungary Portugal Andorra Belgium Netherlands Sweden Monaco Vaticant City If that doesn't seem realistic, then some of them conquered some of the others and then joined together. |
President Mew
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posted 05-19-99 11:01 PM ET
With your approval, i would like to claim many of the Asian countries. The New Asian Federation will consist of: Japan,China,N.Korea,S.Korea,Mongolia, and the Phillipines. Keep in mind, that my region has the biggest population due to China, and therefor is a force to be reckoned with. We encourage democracy and promise great abundance of both raw and manufactured good to be traded to other congenial factions. I would like to propose an absolute alliance with you, chancellor aoyos. I hope that we can be future friends. Of course, I have no enemies, and promise friendship to all who will return it. The capitol is Beijing. |
Galen
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posted 05-20-99 02:02 AM ET
Greetings, I am President Galen of the Middle Eastern Republics (All Arabic speaking countries, Isreal included) We will brook no agression. If anyone should attempt to attack we will respond with our nuclear weapons. Furthermore, we will cancel all oil exports, which WILL destroy the global economy. As it is we have what Firaxis would have called "Cornered the Global Energy Market".Secret Transmission to Bloc: Now, Bloc, we know of your recent problems economically, and we have had some problems with MRV missiles for our nukes, and we are sure some mutually satifactual agreement will be reached. Secret Transmission to the NAF: We would gladly assist you in any effort to "contain" India in exchange for the requisite "materials" such as Plutonium which we find nessecary for our reactors. |
President Korian
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posted 05-20-99 07:28 AM ET
Galen, Israel is not an Arabic speaking country. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-20-99 09:38 AM ET
If you don't mind, I would like to claim New Zealand as the Kiwi-Korporation. We embrace free market and wealth in all its forms. And have recently begun constructing large Manufacturing and Industrial zones.We ask for trade with all nations. We also offer alliances to the European Union and English Speaking Union. |
JT 3
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posted 05-20-99 10:04 AM ET
I agree to the treaty and trade alliance with the Kiwi-Korporation. |
The Builder
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posted 05-20-99 12:14 PM ET
I think, I claim the SMAA, the South and Middle African Alliance, including all the raising christian states of the part of Africa south to the sahara.We try to be democratics and follow strong capitalistic ideals while fighting corruption, religious fanatism from North Africa and all kinds of imperialism. We shall show that we can do much better than our former colonizers! Therefore we offer cooperation to our Brothers and Sisters in Southamerica. Up to thy Sky! |
JT 3
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posted 05-20-99 12:25 PM ET
Change it to South and Middle African Coalition. The your abbreviation will be SMAC! |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-20-99 03:10 PM ET
I claim Mexico Columbia Cuba Bolivia Brazil (Central America, except the Carribbean) Ecuador Chile Argentina Uruguay Paraguay. I call it Oceania. I am cauld the Great Tyrant . We have an efficent police state formed out of reaction to constant revolution. We no long wish the return of the Falklands, Korian, so no trouble there! We also wish to open trade with any non-revolutionary 'Pinko' Countries. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-20-99 03:13 PM ET
called the Great Tyrant, sorry. Also, I suggest we develop our Oil sources. Britain is self sufficent, and Africa has quite a bit, esp Nigeria etc. I have limited oil, but enough. Should we form a 'development pact' to counter theoil threat from the Middle East?
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President Korian
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posted 05-20-99 05:27 PM ET
We accept the treaty with the KK, and ask for peace treaty with SMAA and and Oceania. We have expanded into all of Western Canada to exploit the oi-producing oppurtuntities. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-20-99 05:45 PM ET
We claim all of the former USSR countries. The new name will be the United Federal Socialist Republic.We expanded into Poland, Czecholoslovakia (former), Romania and Bulgaria and Yugoslavia. Our government is much like the Social Democratic government of Great Britain during the 70's-80's. |
JT 3
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posted 05-20-99 05:49 PM ET
I offer the FSR an alliance. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-20-99 05:52 PM ET
Just to be a pedant, AoYoSS, the Government of Britain was not social democratic in the 80's but anyway, lets not argue. Who wants the Falklands? Sorry, mental twist.... I have some premium grade nerve gas that I no longer need for my peoples 'correction' I have upgraded my gases. Anybody want to buy some nerve gas? The highest bidder, any nation welcome.
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Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-20-99 05:57 PM ET
I meant Thatcher's party. |
JT 3
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posted 05-20-99 06:16 PM ET
What about that alliance, AoYoS? |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-20-99 06:19 PM ET
Agreed. |
JT 3
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posted 05-20-99 07:09 PM ET
Good. The EU and the FSR are now officially allies! |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-20-99 07:57 PM ET
NMAA:We would like to open trade immedietely. And a corporate alliance would not be bad either. ESU & EU: Our thanks for your acceptance of our humble offers. We shall construct corporate branches swiftly, and soon our economies shall burst and burgeon! All: We once again offer peace and trade to all nations. Also, a little more background. the Kiwi-Korporation is completly economic-centered. Our government revolves the corporation as do all laws. For the most part, the KK embraces Democracy. Because Democracy is good for business. We hope to remain neutral in all affairs, but will retaliate to unprovoked assault. The KK would also like to announce that it is now beginning construction for deep-sea mining and harvesting. Geothermal energy is a safe, clean and abundant energy source just waiting to be harvested. And a Nuclear Reactor at the bottom of the ocean cannot harm humans, and will always have access to the nessecary intake of water. Expect to see Kiwi-Korp Undersea-Power in the near future! Other nations, if you need power, be sure to ask us! |
President Mew
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posted 05-20-99 08:40 PM ET
President Mew of the New Asian Federation addressing: Chancellor Ayoyos- i wish us to be allys if that is all possible. we can gain much from each other it would be beneficial to both sides since we are neighbors. i would also like an alliance with the kk. i believe it would be beneficial to the KK if we were joint partners in your deep sea mining venture. we can find a suitable half-way point in the sea (perhaps somewhere in Micronesia)to build it between our two nations and i believe the NAF can provide many useful supplies. to the MER, you galen, i would also like to propose an alliance. And perhaps we will partake in a future venture to "contain" india...perhaps. lastly, to you, Oceania, i propose a trade pact...perhaps, some of china's lost cost, high grade oil for some of your nerve gas? Peace to all, Mew out.
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President Mew
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posted 05-20-99 09:01 PM ET
back again---ummm this question doesn't have to do with this thing, but anyone can just jump in and answer it: what is this RP and OCC thing? i'd go back days and days to find out, but it would be easier if any of u could tell me--thx MEW |
Galen
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posted 05-20-99 11:03 PM ET
OOC: The MER includes all the arabic speaking countries and Isreal/Palestine (should be according to the Oslo Accords) |
JT 3
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posted 05-21-99 10:42 AM ET
RP=RoleplayingOOC=Out Of Character IC=In Character |
The Builder
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posted 05-21-99 11:17 AM ET
We agree to rename our faction to South and Middle African Coaliton (SMAC). Myself has been elected General Secretary of the Main Economy Board.We accept the treaty with the ESU and declare Open Market with the KK. But we will not accept exploitation of our rich mineral sources by foreign forces at any time again. We ask the MER to not try to spread their religious fanatism across our northern borders. We demand a part of the antarctis southern of our continent for science and commercial use. Live long and prosper! :-) |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-21-99 01:48 PM ET
Okay, oil for nerve gas. I wish an alliance with somebody, any offers? I will be a loyal and amoral friend. I propose, as a project , that we research better methods for oil extraction, and biological weapons. I am willing to give a share in the mahogany trade (I have Brazil!) to any interested faction. I will need some type of poison, so that I can kill the Native Indians defending it. Great Tyrant Eccles OOC: You mean Monetarist Conservatism AoYoSS. But please no more! |
President Korian
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posted 05-21-99 05:43 PM ET
We would be willing to join an alliance with you, Eccles. We can not provide you with nerve gases due to our present government, but perhaps if an "atrocity" is commited against you, we could send in conventional weapons. Or, we could just send you some napalm. |
President Mew
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posted 05-21-99 05:55 PM ET
Eccles, i will ally with you. I have no need for any mohagany, but i do believe we can aid each other in research of some of those weapons....Perhaps you will ally with me since Aoyos seems to not want to be sworn friends with his neighbors to the east. |
Galen
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posted 05-21-99 06:08 PM ET
Ocenia: We will trade you Oil if you provide us with Nerve Gas, and would like an Alliance. |
President Mew
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posted 05-21-99 06:17 PM ET
Galen--lets ally....we may embark on a future plan to split up india before anyone else gets it? what do you say, friend?--MEW |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-21-99 07:13 PM ET
Okay that is fine, I will trade nerve gas for oil. I accept your nice invitations, and please have an endangered Orang-utan as a gift. We have no need of nerve gases Korian, as we are now using biological weapons on the indian tribesmen. My goal is complete elimination of all '4th world' races in my empire within the next five days. So then, my allies Korian, Galen and Mew we can exploit the wealth of the Rainforest. However I do not intend to cut it all down, it is a source of great wealth for us all. Are there any non-aligned territories out there? |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-21-99 07:25 PM ET
I agree to the alliance proposed by Mew. |
President Mew
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posted 05-21-99 08:20 PM ET
my thanks to aoyos and eccles....Eccles-perhaps we should be very careful not to destroy large portions of the rainforest. while it does hold much weath and resources, we cannot be careless in eliminating endagered species. I'm interested in hearing from the Kiwi-Korporation? When you read this A.G.R., reply to my offers made in previous replies. Peace-Mew out |
The Builder
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posted 05-22-99 04:34 AM ET
As beein exploited over centuries we demand all nations not to do so further with their natural resources. We support all native people in defending their rights and propose to the English speaking Union an the European Union to support our demands as knwon defenders of the rights of humans.From our point of view and especially as owner of big rainforests its an atrocity to endager the global nature system by exploiting it only for profit. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-22-99 05:41 AM ET
Stop whining, I said I was going to make it renewable. The survival of the Rainforest, is the survival of our economic wealth. You can complain about my Genocide on the native indians, I don't care, they just get in the way. |
President Mew
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posted 05-22-99 08:02 PM ET
What if instead of killing the native idians, we instead move them to an unoccupied island in an unowned territory....perhaps cuba or sri lanka. Tat way we can still use the resources of the rain forest and keep them alive. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-22-99 08:22 PM ET
NAF & Oceania:The Kiwi-Korporation will take any refugees you have from your little conquests and give them good homes, and occupations under our flag. NAF, we shall sign your treaty. And we will dispatch prospectors to your proposed sites as soon as possible. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-22-99 10:42 PM ET
The FSR is willing to protect the SMAC and provide it with defense as long as we become lucrative mining partners. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-22-99 10:44 PM ET
We extend an alliance to the KK and have taken over Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Montenegro, and Albania. |
The Builder
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posted 05-23-99 04:28 AM ET
We are interested in trading mining products for "peacekeeping" technologies with the FSR. We must insist, that we prefer to export only almost partly manufactured products to strengthen our industry.We claim the part of the antarctis southern to our country for scientific and economical purposes. We wish to ensure the resttlement of the native indians by sending some inspectors. Perhaps the KK would like to send some, too. We propose to the KK a treaty about use and control of the Indian Ocean. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-23-99 06:51 AM ET
Sending the Indians somewhere costs too much, they have to co-operate. So much cheaper to use a selective chemical on a general area. The Rainforest remains pristeen and the indians are gone! At the present rate of logging it will take 300 years to destroy the Rainforest. This is excluding growback from areas. I propose an increase in explotation, along with an increase in planting (keeping it all renewable). Also I would not advise going to Chile again. I did what Pinochet did, in the national stadium. (no reason for the mass murder, except this is the aniversary of his coup). |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-23-99 10:39 AM ET
Oceania:Great Tyrant Eccles, we didn't mean that we would charge you for sending them to us. We would, instead, take them ourselves. The Kiwi-Korp has a sufficient number of prospectors and soldiers to find, round up and transport all of your refugees without ever requiring assistance. The only thing we would need is your permission to enter the territory. SMAC: We shall sign your treaty, if your fellows shall agree to it. And we shall send a dispatch of inspectors immediaetly. UFSR: Consider the alliance signed. Futhermore, the Kiwi-Korp has desperate need for plutonium and uranium. Our scientists and employees would be grateful, and of course, could compensate you for the trouble. Meanwhile... Kiwi-Korp research and development is currently working, and is almost finished we might add, on creating humanoid androids which are intelligent enough to be assigned a multitude of tasks and preform them all properly. But strong enough to work the largest and most dangerous factories and mines. With the addition of androids, nations and companies can save money by saning all safety measures in their factories as well as revoking health insurance and wages. Once the first androids go into operation and are shown to work the Kiwi-Korp would like to extend a joint measure with any willing ally to begin mass production. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-23-99 12:40 PM ET
Agreed. Alliance signed with the KK and SMAC. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-23-99 02:07 PM ET
Sorry, KK I have decided to test out my various weapons. I need the practise, so thanks, but no thanks. |
The Builder
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posted 05-23-99 03:31 PM ET
KK: Indian Ocean Usage and Protection Treaty signed. Our factions will surely profit therefrom.We congratulate for your scientific breaktrougt but must decline it for our factions as we need our people to work themselves. One industrial revolution at one time. FSR: May or alliance prosper and en sure global peace. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-23-99 03:55 PM ET
SMAC:Perhaps so, but do not forget the military implications of androids. Surely, any general can see the power of an army of soldiers whose loyalty is unwavering, who never make mistakes and who have superhuman strength and endurance. |
President Mew
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posted 05-23-99 05:17 PM ET
Eccles--please, do not kill anymore indigenous indians. Our nation, amonst others, will dispatch immediatly a task force to transport and establish the indians elsewhere, be it in our nations or on a neutral island matters not as long as we can save their lives. All we need is some time to get in their so i plead with you to stop killing and lets us get in there.On other matters, the NAF has been for some time also working on a secret project to develope androids and have finished the project. Many androids are already working in the fields and mines while the humans they replaced are persuiting further scientific discoveries. I do however insist that we must use droids as purly a substitute for workers, not soldiers--lets us sign a global treaty promising that there will be no use of androids in armies. While they can be used to produce weapons, we must not let them fight. KK-are you still interested in the joint undersea mining project. are you still interested? |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-23-99 06:06 PM ET
NAF:Too late, the Kiwi-Korp has begun its prototypes of the KK Military Android Class-A. Similar to their counterparts except they are much larger, much stronger much faster and much smarter than any android, or human, for that matter. Furthermore, your logic contradicts. You wish to save lives of innocent Indian refugees, yet you wish innocent citizens to die on the battlefield? Android warriors are machines and nothing more. People don't die in a war where people don't fight. On a seperate note, we agreed to your Micronesian mining project. Our Construction Branch has found suitable sites and has begun mining. Although we are unsure if your nation would like half the profits from such mining excursions or half the raw materials. |
President Mew
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posted 05-23-99 06:21 PM ET
Sadly, then i must begin development of military androids to ensure security.Yes, and i would like half the profits of this venture, b/c i already have enough raw materials. a new idea has occured to me. perhaps instead of just placing the indians of Oceania on a random island, we should perhaps use them as payed workers in our mining project. that way they can have something to do and get influence from both of our cultures. all of this, of course, if Eccles agrees! On a different note, i have decided to expand into all of SE asia and india for stragic reasons, pratical reasons, and as a population outlet. i do so hope no one objects. |
The Builder
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posted 05-24-99 04:16 AM ET
We agree that androids should replace humans as soldiers especially in humanunfriendly places as the deserts northern to our region. Therefore we would gladly share your research to develop a heat an sand resistent android class (which could also be used to reanimate this regions).We are starting our plans to found the first deep sea colony on the floor of the Indian Ocean according to our treaty. Genetical research is working hard on water breathing but until now failed. |
The Builder
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posted 05-24-99 04:21 AM ET
I forgot: FSR, we encourage you to protect the freedom of Pakistan/Afghanistan to ensure a short trading route between our regions without foreign disturbance. Wladiwostok and St. Petersburg are a bit far and easy to block, not even mentioning Sewastopol. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-24-99 02:04 PM ET
Ok Androids are fine. Mew, the indians appretiate your concern, however if my weapons of mass destruction are to every work properly they need testing. Besides total obilteration of the Indian race in South America is only one day away. (ackles with glee) |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-24-99 05:01 PM ET
Any empires/countries that threaten the independence of Pakistan/Afghanistan, will have to deal with me. As of now, they are under my protection and shadow. |
Galen
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posted 05-24-99 05:40 PM ET
UFSR: Pakistan and Afghanistan are founding members of the MER, and would not want to quit, although several rebel groups have arisen, we are sure they are no problem, and are being delt with now, in a civilized manner, we are doing nothing more than your own country has done. We also do not hope to disrupt your trade with the SMAC, the Seuz canal is open to all.NAF: We accept the alliance. We have been busy in the Kashmir region, taking it, and eliminating India's Nuclear Arsenal before they could respond. We congratugulate on you taking of much of India. We wish to get half to a fourth of India, including the Kashmir region, as we have done some 'moving in' too. We would gladly provide you with oil and other resources in exchange for technology on the androids. SMAC: We would like to verify with you if it is okay to expand into Somalia, as we have vested economic interests there. We are NOT religious fanatics, however we know of many, most of them Christian and ultra-zionists. Palestine/Isreal has the largest representation per person, and about half of their represenatives are Jewish. We even have a Hindui represenative, as well as a christian. We are more secular than much of the world, the arab world long being devoted to the advancement of knowledge. We are democratic, not theocratic. We united for economic and political reasons, not religious. Oceinia: Thank you for the Nerve Gas, it has been helpful in India. We also would like an alliance, freind. However, we caution you against destroying the Rainforest, it is not only eviromentally dangerous, but also has negative economic impacts. We have had to decrease our oil exports in order to maintain economic stablity, and have had problems with deforestation in the Suhel. All: We are beginning a deep sea project in the Red Sea, and it will be closed to all except along certian routes while we are constructing it. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-24-99 08:07 PM ET
Oceania:We are somewhat unsure of what you mean. Do you mean you shall help us in our joint project to mass produce androids, or do you wish to purchase some? If either, exactly what kind do you have in mind? Industrial? Agricultural? Military? SMAC: We shall begin prototyping heat and sand resistant military droids. It will, of course, require some redesign and may, unfortunately, highten costs a smudge. We hope this isn't to your displeasure. Meanwhile.. With Androids we have been able to preform more dangerous mining tasks than ever before. We have begun our first attempts to tap below the Earth's crust and into the mantle itself. We'll report our progress soon. We have also set up our first array of suboceanic nuclear reactors and geothermal taps. Energy-wise, the KK is now completly self-sufficient. The KK is trying to create efficient Superconductors. Because with superconductors raw energy, and not nessecarily the means by which it is produced, may very well become the valuable commodity of the future. So far three research Androids were destroyed by electrical overloard. But we're getting there... |
President Mew
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posted 05-24-99 08:23 PM ET
Galen: agreed, would all land to the west of the 75th degree longetuded mark...that is more than one fourth. if that doesn't cover the region you want, then we will have to set up a trade or something, because the NAF does not wish to have seperate territories. finally, plz to not take long in the red sea. my ships need passage through there to "watch for others safty"Oceania: hmm....this dissapoints me. but if you are in love with genecide, then so be it. All: Now that the undersea mining expedition is well-finished and underway and there is no chance in a project to rescue the two big projects to discuss. Initially, the NAF feals that we need other power sources. Our fossil fuels are dwendling and it is enevitable for the same to happen world wide. therefore, we are undertaking a massive effort to find and build alternative energy means. we acquired Nepal and bhtan for a reason. we need the towering mountains for bases for wind and solar power. the wind plows strong atop the peaks of the himalayas. we plan to construct many more nuclear and solar power facilities as well. this is all to ensure that when the oil runs out, we will not be left in the cold Next, another problem is food. although we have land, that is insufficient to support our bugening population. we have decieded to create massive kelp farms off the coasts of japan, the phillipeans and micronesian islands. this will feed many people and prevent against the luming problem of global warming.... Perhaps others can see what i'm trying to do and do the same.
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Counsel Karok
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posted 05-24-99 09:14 PM ET
This is President Karok, representing the United States of the Carribean. We are composed of the Carribean states and Brazil and the countries above it. We wish to open trade with the ESU and Oceina, possibly with alliances. To any other coutry, we wish trade, we only want to increase our wealth, improve our conditions. |
JT 3
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posted 05-24-99 09:31 PM ET
We have begun full production of androids for our military.USC: We agree to the free trade, and will agree to the alliance if you will. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-24-99 09:48 PM ET
USFR Military androids are being produced now.We ask that the MER give up claims to a strip of land in Afghanistan so that this corridor become a international trade point. |
Galen
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posted 05-24-99 10:33 PM ET
AoYoS, we cannot allow this without some compensation. As it is our people have great pride, we would not give up our land but for a large compensation. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-24-99 10:41 PM ET
You need but name your price, Galen. |
Galen
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posted 05-24-99 11:09 PM ET
Complete control of the Caspian Sea for Oil, ect; additional weapons grade HEU and Plutonium for nuclear reactors, ICBMs, and plans for them. We also need the strip to go through the shortest possible route, be only a hundred km wide, and allow for detours for our houses, ect; and have our government go through with troops, ect without having to deal with your people, and that it stay neutral, and if it ever stops, it revert to our control. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-25-99 08:22 AM ET
All issues are fine with with me, except the Caspian Sea control. I will lease it to you on a 99-year basis. |
The Builder
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posted 05-25-99 12:26 PM ET
MER: It's okay for us you taking somalia but if you are not disturbed finding it separated from your other countries as we claim Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibutim, which are no arabish countries! (Pakistan and Afghanistan are non-arabian also, but you have reached an agreement there.)KK: We would like to develop this special type of androids on our own as we got more than enough human work power and also need always something to do for them. We ask you to extend our treaty to scientific and economic use of the antarctis southern to our regions. EU&EUR: Interested in a Free Trading Zone?
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Michael Kelly
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posted 05-25-99 01:43 PM ET
The breakaway forces of the AA (Antarctica Associates) have seized control of all Antartica! We have technology from confidential sorces within the EU to allow us to survive in these harsh conditions. These former members of the EU offer freindship to the EU but are disgusted by the matirealism of the KK any attempts to develop your evil war androids into cold reistant design is to be viewed as a threat. Discontinue this course of action. The minerals granted by the thin crust at the south pole and the food from fish supplies and the new stimulated kelp growth technology provide us with enough materials but we are willing to trade for any means of power as we have minimal sources. We are not a democratic society. All citizens have chosen to join us and agree with our goals which at present we are not able to disclose. All citizens agree with my judgement. Our military is all human. Any android armed with a weapon is a dangerous thing. We would however be prepared to use agriltural droids if possible. All germ and nuclear warfare is evil. Anyone who uses these weapons against anyone will be destroyed. We are open to any alliances paticulary with the EU. |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-25-99 01:46 PM ET
KAROCK you moron, I already claimed Brazil, and Cuba etc, but not the Carribean. |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-25-99 02:03 PM ET
OCC: Ummm not to be annoying but would members of this thread please post there Acronym and if possible full name of faction and territory. Also perhaps a small amount of background on your faction. I just recently joined after reading all the way through and I am only sure what 2 acronyms mean ( KK and EU).I am the AA. This is the Antarctica association and it controls Antarctica. It has enough food and building materials but a low level of power. It also has technology to resist the cold. It is not a democratic societ as all members were once members of the EU but chose to join me of their own free will. I belive droids must not be armed with weapons but they may be used for agricultural purposes. All chemical and biological weapons are evil. Please reply. |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-25-99 02:15 PM ET
Ociena: I am not sure if you still have an oil shortage problem but my surveyors have recently discovered a large deposit of oil from a crashed fleet of tankers. We have the are secured and would like to trade for some wood supplies and food supplies ( we have a very low level of vegetables and other vital plants your nation must surely have much of) Later we may diversify our trade based on needs. First though I would like to know your stance with the EU. Before I finish this transmission I would like to commend you on your police state (OCC: I'm just like Yang at heart) +++ End Transmission +++ |
Lt Natalia Quist
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posted 05-25-99 02:19 PM ET
Well, JT, it seems you have claimed my home :-)! Is it still possible to join up? If possible, I would like to join up with JT (as a General or something). This because he has already got control of my home (in the Netherlands)... |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-25-99 03:04 PM ET
I just joined but because Korian stole my home I have decided to rule Antarctica. It is a good strategic position. Mabye |
God Emperor Eccles V
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posted 05-25-99 05:04 PM ET
Alliance with whoever it was who wanted it. The indians are all dead now. MK II Widowmaker Multi-Synaptic Nerve Gas is very effective against humans, but not rainforest animals. I will help contruct Androids. |
President Mew
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posted 05-25-99 05:15 PM ET
AA and Karok: the New Asian Federation (NAF) welcomes you.Oceania: please, before u "test" your weapons, give us prior warning and we will work something else out. All: We are near finishing the two major projects we were working on: massive kelp farm project and alternative energy project. We are no longer oil reliant and have plenty of food to spare. I'm interested in doing another joint project with someone, perhaps space related? MEW
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Galen
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posted 05-25-99 05:42 PM ET
Actually, Djibuiti is mine, it's offical language is arabic. And as for Pakistan, taken from the CIA world factbook on the religion of Pakistan, it is offical, actually so it is in MER:Muslim 97% (Sunni 77%, Shi'a 20%); besides, if I have taken Kashmir, what from but Pakistan? Same for Afgahistan. We have annexed Turkey, and are talking with Armenia to join. As for the deal, a 99 year lease? since nearly half of it is ours, why should we consent to but a 99 year lease? If we only get a 99 year lease, we also want your nuclear secrets.NAF: We would be willing to assist in a space project, though we will need technological assistance, Turkey's space technology is still in the 20th century almost. We can provide manpower and resources. AA: Ah, those oil tankers, thank you for finding that, we will be taking our property back now, we will compensate you justly, perhaps half of it, we are feeling generous. As for what MER means, it means the Middle Eastern Republic, we are all the arabic speaking countries and Isreal, Pakistan, part of India, Afghanistan, Turkey and now Somalia. We are the Middle East, plus a recently aquired India. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-25-99 06:17 PM ET
We agree Galen.We also wish an alliance with you as we are suitable for good trade. |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-25-99 07:02 PM ET
We control Armenia, Galen.I said earlier that I claim ALL former USSR countries which includes Armenia. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-25-99 07:46 PM ET
OOC:This may be odd, but I got a bit peeved when, after developing my andoirds, it seems everyone in the world just magically has them. If we're in a world in that time and place, than say it before hand, Korian. If we're not, than I'd like to know if either everybody just bought them from the KK (We're willing to sell almost any of our advances or services) or from the NAF without saying so or have all been focusing on the same research goal. If either, can ya'll just sort've mention these things next time? IC: SMAC: A pity, but our scientists have finished designs for desert military Androids. Would you like such blueprints? AA: We are disgusted by your petty discrimination. We are merely a corporation, providing the world what it needs. We also find your critcism of andoirds humorous. You're Antaractica, my friend. If you aren't going to use Androids than who are to be your citizens? Penguins? Meanwhile... The KK has now created a small army of Androids on its own. Approximately 20% of the KK's population are now Androids. We hope to double this number shortly. With our crew of Androids, the KK has begun construction of massive subterranian industrial bases. With our android workforce and nigh-unlimited nuclear power the KK hopes to soon be one of the most industrially productive nations in the world, despite its small population. |
Galen
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posted 05-25-99 09:54 PM ET
Okay, cancel the Armenia thing.FSR: We have a deal! And I would welcome an economic alliance, we shall both find it, profitiable. KK: We wish for some of your desert android designs, as well as others, we will provide you with oil or euros, or whatever standard you want, at current exchange rates. We also have nuclear secrets known only to the largest superpowers in the world, which I am sure you would like, or HEU. I would also suggest increased economic interaction. NAF: We wish to control all of Kashmir, whatever we take from your territory, you can take from southern India. |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 01:33 AM ET
(Reposting, since it does not seem the first time worked, not sure)My name is President Thundros, leader of the Free Nations Confederation (FNC), comprised of the following nations: Croatia Bosnia-Herzegovina Slovenia (not part of Yugoslavia, like the two previous ones) Liechtenstein Switzerland Malta (not under the EU or anyone else) Cyprus (not under the MER) We are a democratic, pluralistic society and neutral as well (but will defend ourselves if attacked) We offer the following to all the nations of the world (we are neutral) -No questions bank accounts, loans and financing (all confidential) -Various tourist location for your relaxation (world leaders and people alike) -Neutral, safe ground for negatiations of treaties, accords and resolution of conflicts -Huge shipping fleet for global transportation of goods (no destination too far or cargo too sensitive) -Extensive knowledge in heath care (treatments, equipment, etc.) and research as well -Fertile ground for various research projects (biotech, computers, etc.) We await trade offers and other requests! |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 01:38 AM ET
A few corrections (damn typos!)heath=health And should read: "various tourist locations" "No questions asked bank accounts..." |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-26-99 03:15 AM ET
NAF: We accept your alliance. We have recently discovered a deposit of heat reistant materials. While we will need some of this for our continuing habitation of Antarctica we would gladly let you have any slurpus for your space project. We would like any of your kelp technology and alternative energy sources when they are developed if you feel you can spare them.KK: We will use androids. We WILL NOT however let something as flawed as an android use a weapon. The human mind should be the only thing to decide what happens to another human mind. Having artificial intelligences more dangerous than any human is a ridiculous idea. Programs have flaws. Circuits break. Androids are dangerous. Even if a human must wear a protection suit to go outside no android in Antarctica shall weild a weapon. Ocieana: We accept your alliance. FNC: We will shortly be needing transportation of some goods from one of our bases to the NAF. It is simply some metal nothing more. Also to transport some oil to the MER. In exchange you may have a suitable number of your euros. MER: We will of course return your oil. In exchange we would like perhaps a quater of the oil. Unfortunately it seems that a large portion of the oil has been washed away by the sea or else already taken by some scavengers from another faction. We shall deliver all we can though. Although we cannot condone your use of nerve gas we welcome any alliance with you and perhaps trade. We seem to have a mysteriously large stock of oil. We would be willing to trade this oil with you. |
The Builder
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posted 05-26-99 03:28 AM ET
MER: Okay for Djibuti, but Eritrea and Ethiopia are ours. (And yes, Pakistan and Afghanistan are muslimic countries, but not arabic ones.)AA: We are not very happy about your appearance as originally we claimed the part of the antarctis souther for our (the SMAC - Southern and Middle African Coalition, so you know that) scientific and economical purposes. So we ask you to sign a Treaty of Cooperation in Mining and guarantee us a research base on your territory. KK: The blueprints will be very useful in development of further versions, so we are intersted in. The first Indian Ocean Deep Sea Colony (Deep Sea One) has been successfully established and is awaiting your settlers and further improvements (i.e. to gain maritime control over the Indian Ocean). FSR: As you and us controlling the biggest part of world uranium, gold and diamonds resources, we propose to short the offer and gain control of that part of world market. NAF: We are very interested in your Kelp Farm Technology, perhaps we could have a deal there? |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-26-99 08:24 AM ET
Agreed, Builder. |
Al Gore Rythm
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posted 05-26-99 08:43 AM ET
AA:We wouldn't let something as flawed as an unstable human deciede who lives and who dies. We have never, and never will, program our Androids to slaughter, torture, rape or pillage any human beings. Something which human soldiers are quite guilty of. MER: We shall trade our data in exchange for an equal proportion of Euros. And we will agree to increased trade and economic interaction between our nations. SMAC: We shall send our men immediately. |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-26-99 11:02 AM ET
SMAC: Of course we will alow you shared mining rights. We have no need for many of the minerals here. We will grant you a base anywhere within a hundred square miles of a landing point if your ship travelled directly south from the bottom of Africa. You may also refuel at our oil rig with the high density oil we have drilled down to.KK: It appears you wish to turn your entire society to things that could go beserk at the slightset mistouch. If you wish to do this you may but we will never use these things our self. We would like to trade some of our recently obtained heat resistant metals to you in exchange for some cold resistant agricultural and intusturial droids. However we will not accept any droids veiwed as a threat. |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 11:41 AM ET
Message from the FNC (so that way it easier to know who's posting):AA: We have no problems in transporting your various goods. We will have the required ships at your disposal when needed, and of course payment will be enconomic sound sum (good for both parties). As for your new mineral deposits (the heat resistant metal just to name one), we would like to have some samples (even of other minerals found) for research. In return, any finding we get (and possible applications we find) will be shared with you. We only ask that after the new uses are found, we get a small percentage of sales (to cover research cost). Of course, the percentage we not be given forever (just for a certain number of years, as to cover research expenses). All: We are currently looking into purchasing worker androids to bring up industrial efficiency (so as to put more human minds into our various research projects). We are willing to pay slightly less than normal. Why is this good? Well, in return for giving us a good deal, we will conduct research on the droids to improve them, and we will share any tech advancement in the droid field (and how to implement them) with whomever sold them to us. So it's a good deal in the long run (you won't need to research on your own, save money). |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-26-99 01:15 PM ET
Message from the AA (OOC: heh i just realised the real world acronym of that.)FNC: When you come to our northenmost base ( Farming Feilds) We will load some of the heat reistant metals onto your tankers. Half of this is to be taken to the NAF and the other half may be kept by you as a payment we will load as much as your tankers can carry. We need to discover uses for this soon. We will also give you some shock reistant metals we have discovered. These two materials should help with droid development but if you use these materials for military droids we will stop all shipments. We have canceled the oil transport to the MER as there is no proof the oil is thiers and this large supply would just further help them control the global oil market. The ships the oil came off has no markings. We would however refuel your ships on this oil as it seems highly efficant and allow you to take a few tonnes of this to experiment on. When you deliver the metal to the NAF you may recive something to ship back here. NAF: We are delivering the metal for a space project via the FNC. In return we would like information on either the alternative energy or kelp farming technology you mentioned earlier. MER: Until you can prove your ownership of the oil you will have to trade it with us. This is in no way a threat. |
President Mew
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posted 05-26-99 03:31 PM ET
AA: thanks for the material. we will send parts of are alternative energy technology, but the kelp farming tech will be worthless to you due to your climate.KK: Our undersea project is a huge success! lets us continue our co-opertive ventures! join me in my space project. i can use your resources and experience. we will be the first to conquere space! Thundros: i'd like to see some of your health care technology and a ski trip in switzerland to get rid of some stress....both of these in exchange for some worker drones u requested. we no longer need these, b/c our scientist are working on more modified for a space environment. All: I lack many metals and other raw componnts for my space project. I will trade some of the raw materials i have such as kelp(little overstocked!), gems, silk, and the remaining oil we have since we have no more need for it. we will also will trade some of our technology or some of our idle builder androids. MEW |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-26-99 04:42 PM ET
Message from AANAF: Thankyou for the enrgy sources they will be useful. We have high stocks of our heat resistant materials which I am sure would be useful for your space project. In exchange we eould like some oil and builder droids (for sea bases) and some actual kelp for food. We would also like to send some of our citizens up to space with yours. Also we have discovered a remarkably compact fuel which the FNC are experimenting on we would be glad to let you have some of this incredibly efficient fuel but are not sure how much more there is under our rigs. |
Galen
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posted 05-26-99 06:52 PM ET
Message from MER:AA: We can prove it. We have records of 5 oil tankers going to Antartica, and then only 1 returning, 4 apperently crashed, losing their oil. KK: We are transmitting the Euros now. FSR: Thank you for the nuclear materials. FNC: We have some people to send, we have sevral problems with unemployment now in North Africa, and need to get them to work on something. |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 08:24 PM ET
Message from FNC:AA: The goods have been delivered and we have started to work on the samples we got from you. MER: Bring on your unemployed, it will help your problems and ours. NAF: Come on down and take a load off (bring your workers as payment and don't worry about security). As for my health tech, here is one of the technologies we are developing: nanosurgeons. They can be controlled by a surgeon for complicated procedures or new ones and be automated for predefined problems. The benefits: Shorter recovery times, treatment of impossible problems (like deep brain tumors), freeing up surgeons from standard procedures when needed (you can treat more people), They are still in testing phase, but final clinical trials should start shortly. To all: We are developing new more improved worker droids (thanks in part to the samples from AA). We will give more info as we have the prototypes ready (planning for droids to be able to work in various conditions, like space). |
Chancellor AoYoS
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posted 05-26-99 08:32 PM ET
I already claimed Croatia in an earlier post Thundros. Everything else is fine, but I am willing to let Croatia become a part of the FNC, if I get control of the island of Crete as a strategic point of entry to the Dardanelles. |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 09:55 PM ET
Message from FNC:USFR: Chancellor AoYos, you can have Crete (never claimed it, since I have Cyprus) and I get Croatia (actually this should never have been in dispute, since you claimed Yugoslavia, but Croatia is not part of it, or the old USSR). So let it be final: I have Croatia, you get Crete. Now we can go on to other matters (in my previous posts you can see what the FNC is about and what we have been up to with other nations), so feel free to discuss any deals you may have in mind. |
Thundros
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posted 05-26-99 10:13 PM ET
USFR=UFSR (sorry for the typo) |
Thundros
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posted 05-27-99 02:06 AM ET
Message from FNC:NAF: Just to make a correction (to my last post), it should be "microsurgeons" not "nanosurgeons". We are at that micro (tissue, blood vessels) level now, not nano (which would be at the cell level). Although we do have nanosurgeons on the drawing board, but no where near even testing. |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-27-99 03:03 PM ET
Message from AAMER: Hmmmm that is not conclousive evidence but we will snend you the half of the oil we still have available. Unfortunately we have already used some for ourselves but you may have all we have left. FNC: Perhaps we could send some of our citizens over to you. There are some new forms of bacteria here wich can survive even in these harsh conditions. Mabye while attempting to cure them with microsurgeons you could find out what these diseases are. |
Thundros
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posted 05-27-99 07:40 PM ET
Message from FNC:AA: Send your sick over (we will send over a specially prepared cruise ship). As for the microsugeons, with then we will see where the bacteria infects (and take samples as well and taking standard blood samples). In our labs we will see what substances can counter the bacteria (or at least stall it) and be safe to humans as well. Once found we will administer the cure to them. Till the treatment is complete, we will house your sick, take care of them (in quarentine, wouldn't want it to spread all over the world) and return them once fully recovered. We will also catalog the bacteria and it's effects on the human being. |
President Mew
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posted 05-28-99 06:07 PM ET
AA: Thanks for the material, and we would like some more. We will send the rest of our oil, some food, and the drones that we can spare. Unfourtuanatly, we cannot allow your citizens aboard at the moment. Space is limited and security is a must. Perhaps a little later?FNC: Thank you. Me as well as a few members of my high council will be down for a little vacation. ALL: With the rest of the metal from the AA, the NAF Glory will be completed! This massive facility set in orbit around the globe will be primarily used for research. The Glory is unlike any seen before and will soon be used as a stopping point for trips to other points in the universe. There is a small section reserved solely for relaxation and comfort. The view, i hear is quite astounding as you might imagine. Being that as it may, i will be aboard The Glory shortly to suppervise its completion and will be renting that space out to any of you fine leaders who would like a vacation away from home...far away from home. MEW |
Michael Kelly
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posted 05-29-99 03:55 AM ET
Message from AA:NAF: Hmmmmm we shall transport some of our material but we really must insist that as sonn as their is space in space that we can send some colonists up. OOC ALL: I am going to be unable to post for another five days. During this time my citizens will be building sea bases. |
Thundros
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posted 06-06-99 02:16 PM ET
Message from FNC:To All: We have completed our prototypes of worker droids for use in industry. This is how they break down: IWD (Independent Worker Droid): Model IWD1: First version, basic design, made with shock resistant metal from AA, can work in mines and underwater (metal does not rust), very durable and it has a repeat learning mechanism, in which only one droid need to know that tasks, then he jsut transfers his info to other, giving them the same knowledge and skill. Cheapest droid you can buy. Model IWD1-C: Same qualities as IWD1 plus using the cold resistant metal from AA in mixed alloy from, inables droid to work in very cold temperatures (can work at -80 degrees Celsius, tested so far). Cost more than the IDW1. Model IWD1-H: Same qualities as IWD1 plus uses the heat resitant alloy from AA, so can work in very hot conditions (and humid as well, tested at 200 degrees Celcius). Costs the same as the IWD1-C. Model IWD1-S: Same qualities at the IWD1, IWD1-C and IWD1-H. Made with an alloy mix making it resist the extreme heat and cold of space as well as the micrometeorites (nasty suckers), plus has thusters to move in space. The most expensive model. We will be showing them off soon in a demonstration and we will announce pricing soon. AA: We have done preliminary analysis of the bactria that infected the citizens you sent us. Does not look good, very nasty bacteria, resistant to know treatments, but we have some experimental treatments on the way. One thing we do know that can help (but dangerous to the patient), cold slows down infection and even stops it (like cyrosleep will do the trick), but does not cure it. If you have others, put them in cryosleep (if you don't have the right equipment for it, we can lend you some. We will keep you posted on our continuing research. |
Ronin_54
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posted 06-06-99 02:29 PM ET
Message from FNC:Greetings. I believe it is time for me to introduce myself: I am the vice-president of the FNC. I will act as the second-in-command for Thundros. That was all. Vice-President Ronin Free Nations Confederacy |
Thundros
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posted 06-07-99 04:45 PM ET
OOC: To all those that posted on this thread, please go to the new "Conquest II" thread (still in the factions section of the forums) for the continuation of this thread, since it got too long (over 100 posts). Remember to read the last posts of this thread to be up to speed! |