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Agent 000 posted 05-09-99 09:34 PM ET
;
; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI
;
; FACTION FILE: The Spartan Federation
;
; Copyright (c) 1997, 1998 by Firaxis Games, Inc.
;
; This File was made by AGENT 000. No program was used. This is basiclly a boring faction, but
; many people wanted on soooo......
;
;
#NUETRAL
The Nuetrals, The Nuetral, Nuetrals, M, 2, Nuetral Leader, F, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0,
nil, nil, nil
nil, nil, nil
Nuetralic, Nuetralic,
Samira, Rostami, Samira's Resting Place
Undecided, N/A, Undecided, wish-washy, unkown,
Undecided
To not take anybody's side
To not take anybody's side
Not making any decisions
Not making any decisions
Can't decide anything
foolishly making non-decisions
foolishly making non-decisions
Sitting on your butt
sitting on butt, M2
Undecided Goal, M2
Central-wing fantasies, M2
stipend, M1
keeping the peace
The N/A union
the nothing book
#BASES
N/A
Nothing
No Name
Undecided
Nuetral
Nuetrallity
Nuetral Homelands
Unkown
No Desision
No Conclusion
Who knows
Who Cares
What
Can't Decide
Unkown Name
Pointless Grounds
Fort Nothingness
#END
#WATERBASES
Water HQ
Nothing but Water
Built on Water
Nothing Water
Sea Outpost
#END
#BLURB
No Decison
^
^ -- N/A,
^ "N/A"
#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {None}
^BACKGROUND: {None}
^AGENDA: {None}
^TECH: {Doctrine: Mobility}
^
#DATALINKS2
#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"Please let us plege a blood truce!, $NAME1."

"Ya I guess."
"Begging will get you nowhere, $NAME3. Prepare to be obliterated!"
#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"$TITLE0 $NAME1. My Nuetral Followers wish to have peace.
"Fair enough."
"No."
# ; This line must remain at end of file
____________________________________________
so? how is it?
Picker posted 05-09-99 09:53 PM ET
wow, that's pretty damn boring
Al Gore Rythm posted 05-09-99 10:18 PM ET
Despite being bland and boring, they're also imbalanced.
I know, it sounds crazy, but a neutral faction is imbalanced when put up side to side with factions which go one direction or another.
Having no actual weaknesses is a strength in itself, being able to use any SE choice is a great advantage.
They are balanced if every faction is neutral, but unless you want a highly bland game I wouldn't recommened it.
Warp Warrior posted 05-10-99 01:00 AM ET
I just asked a simple question. You make this faction look more boring than it should be. Why will a neutral faction be so boring? Do you have to have an advantage in something to be exciting? Having a military that no one can put a dent in can be boring, being so technologically advanced that others aren't even close can be boring, having so much money you can buy anything at will can also be boring. If you know for a fact that you are going to win without even trying is boring. You now have to work around the lack of a strength, most other faction weaknesses can be gotten rid of if you play it properly which would leave them with a strength. One says it may be a challenge, another says it may actually be too strong because you can use any SE. Which is it? If it is a challange then it should be kind of interesting to see if you can still do the same thing you used to be able to do with the other factions without the extra pluses. If it too strong because of SE's, then which one should you remove?
If you would play this, or any other new faction, which ONE faction would be the best to replace it with to keep the game balanced?
warmachine posted 05-10-99 10:30 AM ET
I disagree. Flexibility is useful but changing strategies isn't that easy. Changing SE choices may need a few mouse clicks but changing between a unstoppable military society, a highly developed research base and a money making machine takes a lot of work.
The Neutrals have no edge in any stategy. They cannot take on a faction on its strongest strategy and they aren't powerful enough to really make a difference when hitting a weakness. Simply hurting a faction results in relatively little damage. You must add that extra 'oomph' to make the damage catastrophic. Also known as 'pushing the envelope'.
Matthew Greet
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Author	Topic: New Faction- NUETRALS
Agent 000	posted 05-09-99 09:34 PM ET ; ; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI ; ; FACTION FILE: The Spartan Federation ; ; Copyright (c) 1997, 1998 by Firaxis Games, Inc. ; ; This File was made by AGENT 000. No program was used. This is basiclly a boring faction, but ; many people wanted on soooo...... ; ; #NUETRAL The Nuetrals, The Nuetral, Nuetrals, M, 2, Nuetral Leader, F, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, nil, nil, nil nil, nil, nil Nuetralic, Nuetralic, Samira, Rostami, Samira's Resting Place Undecided, N/A, Undecided, wish-washy, unkown, Undecided To not take anybody's side To not take anybody's side Not making any decisions Not making any decisions Can't decide anything foolishly making non-decisions foolishly making non-decisions Sitting on your butt sitting on butt, M2 Undecided Goal, M2 Central-wing fantasies, M2 stipend, M1 keeping the peace The N/A union the nothing book #BASES N/A Nothing No Name Undecided Nuetral Nuetrallity Nuetral Homelands Unkown No Desision No Conclusion Who knows Who Cares What Can't Decide Unkown Name Pointless Grounds Fort Nothingness #END #WATERBASES Water HQ Nothing but Water Built on Water Nothing Water Sea Outpost #END #BLURB No Decison ^ ^ -- N/A, ^ "N/A" #DATALINKS1 ^LEADER: {None} ^BACKGROUND: {None} ^AGENDA: {None} ^TECH: {Doctrine: Mobility} ^ #DATALINKS2 #FACTIONTRUCE #xs 440 #caption $CAPTION7 "Please let us plege a blood truce!, $NAME1." "Ya I guess." "Begging will get you nowhere, $NAME3. Prepare to be obliterated!" #FACTIONTREATY #xs 440 #caption $CAPTION7 "$TITLE0 $NAME1. My Nuetral Followers wish to have peace. "Fair enough." "No." # ; This line must remain at end of file ____________________________________________ so? how is it?
Picker	posted 05-09-99 09:53 PM ET wow, that's pretty damn boring
Al Gore Rythm	posted 05-09-99 10:18 PM ET Despite being bland and boring, they're also imbalanced. I know, it sounds crazy, but a neutral faction is imbalanced when put up side to side with factions which go one direction or another. Having no actual weaknesses is a strength in itself, being able to use any SE choice is a great advantage. They are balanced if every faction is neutral, but unless you want a highly bland game I wouldn't recommened it.
Warp Warrior	posted 05-10-99 01:00 AM ET I just asked a simple question. You make this faction look more boring than it should be. Why will a neutral faction be so boring? Do you have to have an advantage in something to be exciting? Having a military that no one can put a dent in can be boring, being so technologically advanced that others aren't even close can be boring, having so much money you can buy anything at will can also be boring. If you know for a fact that you are going to win without even trying is boring. You now have to work around the lack of a strength, most other faction weaknesses can be gotten rid of if you play it properly which would leave them with a strength. One says it may be a challenge, another says it may actually be too strong because you can use any SE. Which is it? If it is a challange then it should be kind of interesting to see if you can still do the same thing you used to be able to do with the other factions without the extra pluses. If it too strong because of SE's, then which one should you remove? If you would play this, or any other new faction, which ONE faction would be the best to replace it with to keep the game balanced?
warmachine	posted 05-10-99 10:30 AM ET I disagree. Flexibility is useful but changing strategies isn't that easy. Changing SE choices may need a few mouse clicks but changing between a unstoppable military society, a highly developed research base and a money making machine takes a lot of work. The Neutrals have no edge in any stategy. They cannot take on a faction on its strongest strategy and they aren't powerful enough to really make a difference when hitting a weakness. Simply hurting a faction results in relatively little damage. You must add that extra 'oomph' to make the damage catastrophic. Also known as 'pushing the envelope'. Matthew Greet