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The Hawk posted 05-08-99 08:58 AM ET
-2 economy
-2 research
+2 moral
+2 support
+1 industry
The Hawk posted 05-08-99 09:07 AM ET
Is it unbalanced?
This is the first faction i've made, so there can be some slight problems...
JohnIII posted 05-08-99 09:37 AM ET
Er... Social Engineering ans Special Bonuses?
The Hawk posted 05-08-99 10:41 AM ET
Oh, sorry
no democracy
free punishment sphere to each base
-50% votes in council
eNo posted 05-08-99 11:57 AM ET
Two problems I see:
These faction worse than the Beleiver in research. -2 Research plus Punishment Sphere which halves whatever they already get.
I saw a discussion of this earlier and it seems that the 50% votes is hard to implement.
The Hawk posted 05-08-99 01:06 PM ET
OK
scrach the -50% votes
what should i do with the tech thing? would changing the -2 techto -1 tech be fine?
High Priest posted 05-09-99 12:34 AM ET
Hawk:
First, ditch the punishment spheres. Instead, give the faction one talent every four citizens, and a +2 police rating instead of the morale. The -50% votes would definately need to stay if it is possible (if you succeed, tell me how). If it doesn't work I'd probably give them a -2 planet or probe rating. (I'm not taking the probe thing from Miriam, but from the Genejack's effect on mind control).
The Hawk posted 05-09-99 11:31 AM ET
I don't think brainwashed people are ery talented. is it OK like this?
-2 economy
-2 research
+2 police
+2 support
+1 industry
no democracy
-50% votes in council or -2 planet
Ill see if it is possible to make -50% votes. Once I find out ill post it here
The Hawk posted 05-09-99 01:02 PM ET
After some testing I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to have -50% votes. If some one knows how to PLEASE tell me how.
At this time the Brain Washed faction has:
-2 economy
-2 research
+2 police
+2 support
+1 industry
-2probe or -2 planet
no democracy
Is this good now?
High Priest posted 05-09-99 05:29 PM ET
Yah- you're probably right about the talents. What's their first tech, though? You might also think of pulling a Miriam, no tech before 2110.
High Priest posted 05-09-99 05:37 PM ET
You definately need to play test it though. With this much imbalance you could find games nearly impossible, or way too easy. If it is too hard, I would pprobably add a rec commons to each base automatically to help kill early drones. If it is too easy, I would add an extre -2 efficiency (too much narrow thinking creates beauracracy). You would probably have to penalize the faction a bit more in the Research and maybe Economy ratings (and definately no research before 2110), but if it is too hard, and you dislike the thought of a Rec Commons, you might try for a free Research Hospital in each base (Surgically altering drone effects for mindless citizens).
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Author	Topic: New Faction: The Brainwashed
The Hawk	posted 05-08-99 08:58 AM ET -2 economy -2 research +2 moral +2 support +1 industry
The Hawk	posted 05-08-99 09:07 AM ET Is it unbalanced? This is the first faction i've made, so there can be some slight problems...
JohnIII	posted 05-08-99 09:37 AM ET Er... Social Engineering ans Special Bonuses?
The Hawk	posted 05-08-99 10:41 AM ET Oh, sorry no democracy free punishment sphere to each base -50% votes in council
eNo	posted 05-08-99 11:57 AM ET Two problems I see: These faction worse than the Beleiver in research. -2 Research plus Punishment Sphere which halves whatever they already get. I saw a discussion of this earlier and it seems that the 50% votes is hard to implement.
The Hawk	posted 05-08-99 01:06 PM ET OK scrach the -50% votes what should i do with the tech thing? would changing the -2 techto -1 tech be fine?
High Priest	posted 05-09-99 12:34 AM ET Hawk: First, ditch the punishment spheres. Instead, give the faction one talent every four citizens, and a +2 police rating instead of the morale. The -50% votes would definately need to stay if it is possible (if you succeed, tell me how). If it doesn't work I'd probably give them a -2 planet or probe rating. (I'm not taking the probe thing from Miriam, but from the Genejack's effect on mind control).
The Hawk	posted 05-09-99 11:31 AM ET I don't think brainwashed people are ery talented. is it OK like this? -2 economy -2 research +2 police +2 support +1 industry no democracy -50% votes in council or -2 planet Ill see if it is possible to make -50% votes. Once I find out ill post it here
The Hawk	posted 05-09-99 01:02 PM ET After some testing I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to have -50% votes. If some one knows how to PLEASE tell me how. At this time the Brain Washed faction has: -2 economy -2 research +2 police +2 support +1 industry -2probe or -2 planet no democracy Is this good now?
High Priest	posted 05-09-99 05:29 PM ET Yah- you're probably right about the talents. What's their first tech, though? You might also think of pulling a Miriam, no tech before 2110.
High Priest	posted 05-09-99 05:37 PM ET You definately need to play test it though. With this much imbalance you could find games nearly impossible, or way too easy. If it is too hard, I would pprobably add a rec commons to each base automatically to help kill early drones. If it is too easy, I would add an extre -2 efficiency (too much narrow thinking creates beauracracy). You would probably have to penalize the faction a bit more in the Research and maybe Economy ratings (and definately no research before 2110), but if it is too hard, and you dislike the thought of a Rec Commons, you might try for a free Research Hospital in each base (Surgically altering drone effects for mindless citizens).