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sarummaine posted 04-28-99 06:03 PM ET
Here's a new faction idea.
Droid Consullate-
+2 Efficiency- They're automatons
-2 Economy- They don't care if their rich
+1 Research- Built in Databases but lack intuition
No Drone Riots- They're cousins!
+1 Weaponry- They can have several kinds of weapon at once
-2 Mobility- They're just hunks of metal
+2 Flexibility/Sea Power- They don't need to breath
-1 Social Engineering- They don't care
-1 Diplomacy- Who's ever heard of a polite droid?
+2 Terraforming- They start out with Centauri Ecology
-1 Transcendant Thought- They don't think!
-1 Covert Ops- No imagination
+1 Armor- It's already built in
Any suggestions? It comes out to +1
Please respond.

Smeagol posted 04-28-99 06:05 PM ET
How would you implement all this? It doesn't seem possible, by my understanding.
sarummaine posted 04-28-99 06:07 PM ET
I know how to.
Smeagol posted 04-28-99 06:09 PM ET
To give any faction "no drone riots" is way too powerful in itself. There are too many things to consider with this one, also. Look at my faction "genetically enhanced intellectuals"-- I need some opinions on what to do with it.
sarummaine posted 04-28-99 06:10 PM ET
No Drone Riots isn't too powerful! What are you talking about?
JT 3 posted 04-28-99 06:11 PM ET
I think they're slightly overpowered. I mean, no drone riots from the start of the game! That means you can run a free market only worrying about planet, no need to build rec commons, holo theatres, Paradise Domes, etc.! And, you can have a _large_ Free Market army, since there is no "pacifist" penalty and you have +1 armor and weapon.
Smeagol posted 04-28-99 06:12 PM ET
Ever play a game on transcend level? Drones are a major factor there, and to never have to worry about suppressing them should warrant some SERIOUS penalties, on any even just moderatetly difficult level.
Smeagol posted 04-28-99 06:13 PM ET
Well, first off they shouldn't be able to run a Free Market economy anyway, considering they're a bunch of robots with no imagination. Still, the drone riots make it too powerful.
sarummaine posted 04-28-99 06:15 PM ET
okay, okay, Drone Riots can still happen!
JT 3 posted 04-28-99 06:16 PM ET
WAY too powerful.

Seriously, this is like the perfect Faction. They'll steamroll towards any victory. Effeciency+knowledge make tech easy, and the extra armor+weapon makes fighting a breeze. Then you get +2 terraforming so you can raise your whole continent in half the amount of time it would take other Factions, especially with the Paradgim.
Al Gore Rythm posted 04-28-99 11:00 PM ET
Just asking, exactly how would you implement this? I've never seen anything along those lines possible in a faction file, and I'd like to know.
And what do you mean "it comes out to +1"? Do you mean if you add all the negatives and positives you get a +1? There is much, much more to balance than numerics, sarummaine.
sarummaine posted 04-29-99 06:27 AM ET
Well, I suck at designing factions so please don't be two harsh on me.
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Author	Topic: New Faction- The Droid Consullate
sarummaine	posted 04-28-99 06:03 PM ET Here's a new faction idea. Droid Consullate- +2 Efficiency- They're automatons -2 Economy- They don't care if their rich +1 Research- Built in Databases but lack intuition No Drone Riots- They're cousins! +1 Weaponry- They can have several kinds of weapon at once -2 Mobility- They're just hunks of metal +2 Flexibility/Sea Power- They don't need to breath -1 Social Engineering- They don't care -1 Diplomacy- Who's ever heard of a polite droid? +2 Terraforming- They start out with Centauri Ecology -1 Transcendant Thought- They don't think! -1 Covert Ops- No imagination +1 Armor- It's already built in Any suggestions? It comes out to +1 Please respond.
Smeagol	posted 04-28-99 06:05 PM ET How would you implement all this? It doesn't seem possible, by my understanding.
sarummaine	posted 04-28-99 06:07 PM ET I know how to.
Smeagol	posted 04-28-99 06:09 PM ET To give any faction "no drone riots" is way too powerful in itself. There are too many things to consider with this one, also. Look at my faction "genetically enhanced intellectuals"-- I need some opinions on what to do with it.
sarummaine	posted 04-28-99 06:10 PM ET No Drone Riots isn't too powerful! What are you talking about?
JT 3	posted 04-28-99 06:11 PM ET I think they're slightly overpowered. I mean, no drone riots from the start of the game! That means you can run a free market only worrying about planet, no need to build rec commons, holo theatres, Paradise Domes, etc.! And, you can have a _large_ Free Market army, since there is no "pacifist" penalty and you have +1 armor and weapon.
Smeagol	posted 04-28-99 06:12 PM ET Ever play a game on transcend level? Drones are a major factor there, and to never have to worry about suppressing them should warrant some SERIOUS penalties, on any even just moderatetly difficult level.
Smeagol	posted 04-28-99 06:13 PM ET Well, first off they shouldn't be able to run a Free Market economy anyway, considering they're a bunch of robots with no imagination. Still, the drone riots make it too powerful.
sarummaine	posted 04-28-99 06:15 PM ET okay, okay, Drone Riots can still happen!
JT 3	posted 04-28-99 06:16 PM ET WAY too powerful. Seriously, this is like the perfect Faction. They'll steamroll towards any victory. Effeciency+knowledge make tech easy, and the extra armor+weapon makes fighting a breeze. Then you get +2 terraforming so you can raise your whole continent in half the amount of time it would take other Factions, especially with the Paradgim.
Al Gore Rythm	posted 04-28-99 11:00 PM ET Just asking, exactly how would you implement this? I've never seen anything along those lines possible in a faction file, and I'd like to know. And what do you mean "it comes out to +1"? Do you mean if you add all the negatives and positives you get a +1? There is much, much more to balance than numerics, sarummaine.
sarummaine	posted 04-29-99 06:27 AM ET Well, I suck at designing factions so please don't be two harsh on me.