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YIR posted 06-07-99 12:26 PM ET
I would appreciate advice on how to deal with a vote to melt the polar ice caps. This is the first time I've come across this.
Verminlord posted 06-07-99 12:40 PM ET
Build Pressure Domes in the cities in low lying areas. Lots of formers in "raise land" mode. Council vote to launch solar shade.
Ron
Series II posted 06-07-99 01:00 PM ET
Like many things in the game the best defense is a good offense. Be planatary govener and veto the vote. Oherwise buy the vote. Or have your submissive pact partners support your resolution to launch solar shade.
If all else fails build pressure domes and raise land.
Seems like a stupid thing for the computer players to do usually.
MajiK6pt5 posted 06-11-99 01:54 AM ET
do your bases really drown if they're sunk? i sunk some of miriam's bases, and they're doing just fine...?
Rackam posted 06-11-99 09:22 AM ET
A base can survive submersion if it has a pressure (sea bases get one automatically). So if she has built pressure domes, then dropping the land does nothing.
~Rackam
Beta1 posted 06-11-99 10:07 AM ET
There was a rumour going round that the AI might cheat its way out of the sinking cities trick at higher difficulty levels -Instant Pressure dome type of thing
Series II posted 06-11-99 10:51 AM ET
No rumor. The AI does cheat. I have seen (and reloaded to see again) an AI city sink and a pressure dome magically appear. The city did loose 1.2 of its population. I am not sure the logic of this, but such is the live of a computer lead faction.
The AI does loose cities sometimes, but it is just about 1/2 of the time.
MajiK6pt5 posted 06-11-99 12:07 PM ET
See now, that is just plain unfair...I think that the AI should just get smarter in the higher difficulty levels, and not have so many physical advantages. Except maybe at transcend or something...
Pinko34 posted 06-11-99 12:29 PM ET
How whould building preasure domes help?
Series II posted 06-11-99 12:50 PM ET
It is hard to program smarter AI and is easy to program simple advantages to the AI. I would prefer a more intelligent AI, but ....
Pressure Domes keep the water out. Build one and your city is save from submersing. Alos, a pressure dome functions as a recycle tank also. So you do not need both. SOme have said that you should go straight to building pressure domes at your costal cities and skip the recycle tank.
Zozo posted 06-11-99 01:50 PM ET
I have a somewhat related question. I get global warming and the water will rise by some 66m over the next 20 years. No big deal. As I have plenty of fusion superformers around so I want to raise the land, instead of building a pressure dome. However, I can't raise the land at the base square and when I raise the land on a square next to the base, other squares next to my raised square are also raised, _except_ the base square so that doesn't help at all.
Anyway, is this a bug that has been fixed in a patch or is this an intended feature ?
Another question on raised land: if I have a borehole at 900m and then I raise the land by another 300m does it make the borehole disappear because it is higher than the 1000m limit ?
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Author	Topic: Avoiding drowning
YIR	posted 06-07-99 12:26 PM ET I would appreciate advice on how to deal with a vote to melt the polar ice caps. This is the first time I've come across this.
Verminlord	posted 06-07-99 12:40 PM ET Build Pressure Domes in the cities in low lying areas. Lots of formers in "raise land" mode. Council vote to launch solar shade. Ron
Series II	posted 06-07-99 01:00 PM ET Like many things in the game the best defense is a good offense. Be planatary govener and veto the vote. Oherwise buy the vote. Or have your submissive pact partners support your resolution to launch solar shade. If all else fails build pressure domes and raise land. Seems like a stupid thing for the computer players to do usually.
MajiK6pt5	posted 06-11-99 01:54 AM ET do your bases really drown if they're sunk? i sunk some of miriam's bases, and they're doing just fine...?
Rackam	posted 06-11-99 09:22 AM ET A base can survive submersion if it has a pressure (sea bases get one automatically). So if she has built pressure domes, then dropping the land does nothing. ~Rackam
Beta1	posted 06-11-99 10:07 AM ET There was a rumour going round that the AI might cheat its way out of the sinking cities trick at higher difficulty levels -Instant Pressure dome type of thing
Series II	posted 06-11-99 10:51 AM ET No rumor. The AI does cheat. I have seen (and reloaded to see again) an AI city sink and a pressure dome magically appear. The city did loose 1.2 of its population. I am not sure the logic of this, but such is the live of a computer lead faction. The AI does loose cities sometimes, but it is just about 1/2 of the time.
MajiK6pt5	posted 06-11-99 12:07 PM ET See now, that is just plain unfair...I think that the AI should just get smarter in the higher difficulty levels, and not have so many physical advantages. Except maybe at transcend or something...
Pinko34	posted 06-11-99 12:29 PM ET How whould building preasure domes help?
Series II	posted 06-11-99 12:50 PM ET It is hard to program smarter AI and is easy to program simple advantages to the AI. I would prefer a more intelligent AI, but .... Pressure Domes keep the water out. Build one and your city is save from submersing. Alos, a pressure dome functions as a recycle tank also. So you do not need both. SOme have said that you should go straight to building pressure domes at your costal cities and skip the recycle tank.
Zozo	posted 06-11-99 01:50 PM ET I have a somewhat related question. I get global warming and the water will rise by some 66m over the next 20 years. No big deal. As I have plenty of fusion superformers around so I want to raise the land, instead of building a pressure dome. However, I can't raise the land at the base square and when I raise the land on a square next to the base, other squares next to my raised square are also raised, _except_ the base square so that doesn't help at all. Anyway, is this a bug that has been fixed in a patch or is this an intended feature ? Another question on raised land: if I have a borehole at 900m and then I raise the land by another 300m does it make the borehole disappear because it is higher than the 1000m limit ?