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laurens posted 05-24-99 09:39 AM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for laurens   Click Here to Email laurens  
A quick poll to determine your all-time worst enemy (choose one only), generally - at least at Librarian level.

Also indicate whether the game is more difficult with 'Blind Research' turned on or not.

Lastly, you may want to include the game level that you like to/most often play in. But this doesn't contribute to the vote count.
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The Hive
BR on
(Transcend)
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Hive :1
The rest:0
BR on :1
BR off :0

ishmael13 posted 05-24-99 06:37 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for ishmael13  Click Here to Email ishmael13     
The Believers
Thinker
BR on
RunningJester posted 05-24-99 08:16 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for RunningJester  Click Here to Email RunningJester     
The Belivers
BR on
Thinker
laurens posted 05-24-99 08:26 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Thks for the support.

Please keep the count going
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Hive: 1
Believers: 2
BR on: 3
BR off: 0

Alkis posted 05-25-99 01:14 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Alkis  Click Here to Email Alkis     
The Hive (With Believers a very close second)

BR off
(Transcend)

The most hated race, the Gaians.

Hive: 2
Believers: 2
BR on: 3
BR off: 1

K posted 05-25-99 02:42 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for K  Click Here to Email K     
BR on.
Hive in early game.
Believers in Mid game.
Peacekeepers in late game.
A split vaote I'm afraid.
Igor posted 05-25-99 03:48 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Igor  Click Here to Email Igor     
Believers.
BR on.
Thinker
Igor posted 05-25-99 03:52 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Igor  Click Here to Email Igor     
Hive is most annoying on Transcend (if play as no Hive).
laurens posted 05-25-99 08:31 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Hive:2
Believers:3
BR on:4
BR off:1

To K: Hey, so sorry not to include yours in the count coz we are trying to come to a decisive conclusion. Mind choosing one , juz like how you do it in the poll for the secret project - weather paradigm?

Thks.

Porkmonger posted 05-25-99 02:08 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Porkmonger    
Transcend

Not sure if BR is on(I think it is - 73 turns to get Centuari Empathy as Morgan?!?!)

Biggest problem: Sparta (stupid early doctrine:flex gives them too much power on a 30% landmass game)

Most annoying: Believers (keep declaring war and then giving up when they realize that they're goign to get crushed)

High Priest posted 05-25-99 09:02 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for High Priest    

Believers
Transcend
BR: on

Miriam is definately the worst, with Hive a close second. The reason being that Miriam is a bit less predictable, and rarely follows common sense

Believers:4
Hive:2
BR on:5
BR off:1


High Priest

HolyWarrior posted 05-25-99 09:43 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for HolyWarrior  Click Here to Email HolyWarrior     
I think you can guess my answer by now:

The HIVE! I HATE THEM! They are the worst!

K posted 05-26-99 06:25 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for K  Click Here to Email K     
OK, it's the PK. Unless spanked early and well, they really are a problem in the later years. The Believers always fall behind in tech, and the Hive always seems a little short on population.
Stasis Archon posted 05-26-99 07:25 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Stasis Archon  Click Here to Email Stasis Archon     
The hive, BR on.
(Librarian)
laurens posted 05-26-99 01:19 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
So the count is:

Believers: 4
Hive: 4
Spartans: 1
Peacekeepers: 1
BR on: 7
BR off: 1


To Porkmonger: I hope I'm right to take your vote for the Spartans since they are the biggest problem....grrrrr........

Cheers

HolyWarrior posted 05-30-99 02:25 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for HolyWarrior  Click Here to Email HolyWarrior     
Oh, I forgot to mention:
I always turn off blind research. If I want to research Air Power, I will research Air Power, dammit!
MichaeltheGreat posted 05-30-99 02:31 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MichaeltheGreat  Click Here to Email MichaeltheGreat     
The Believers, for sheer annoyance and irrationality.

Transcend

Blind research is much more of a challenge at tougher levels.

Believers: 5
Hive: 4
Spartans: 1
Peacekeepers: 1
BR on: 8
BR off: 1

laurens posted 05-30-99 05:34 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Adding Holy Warrior latest:

Believers: 5
Hive: 4
Spartans: 1
Peacekeepers: 1
BR on: 8
BR off: 2


To Holy Warrior also: I have put down your vote for Blind Research off. Hoped that you meant it to make the game more difficult, and this vote count's for the strongest enemy on your preferred harder game option.

Resource Consumer posted 06-04-99 11:41 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Resource Consumer  Click Here to Email Resource Consumer     
The Hive, BR on, Librarian/Thinker

(I usually find Miriam's a little pussycat if I give her enough tech and she beats up on everyone else)

Resource Consumer posted 06-04-99 11:42 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Resource Consumer  Click Here to Email Resource Consumer     
So that makes:

Believers: 5
Hive: 5
Spartans: 1
Peacekeepers: 1
BR on: 9
BR off: 2

MichaeltheGreat posted 06-04-99 11:50 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MichaeltheGreat  Click Here to Email MichaeltheGreat     
RC -

Miriam is a little nastier towards Morgan, PK, UoP and the Gaians, due to her prejudices against research and democracy. With the hive, she is more reasonable, but I don't give technology to anyone except the lovely Deirdre. (I play mostly PK, always at TI level)

Krushala posted 06-04-99 03:42 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Krushala  Click Here to Email Krushala     
Spartans give me more trouble than the hive. They always seem to attack me for no reason. I usually give the hive a reason to attack me.

totals
Believers 5
Hive 5
Spartans 2
peackeepers 1

BR on:10
BR off:2

swimjakes posted 06-04-99 04:00 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for swimjakes    
I find the Spartans extremely annoying. Blind research on and usually transcend level. If I don't build The Command Nexus and get extra morale on everything I build, the Spartans start to suck real bad.
laurens posted 06-05-99 12:37 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
which brings the total to :

Believers: 5
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 1
BR on: 11
BR off: 2


Cheers

Henrikp posted 06-07-99 03:08 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Henrikp  Click Here to Email Henrikp     
I always play trancend (can you play any other difficulty?) and BR off. The spartans are a pain in the beginning and so are the believers, but being incredibly stupid they are easily outmanoeuvered. The Hive are annoying things that always missile all my defences, but never attacks(!?!).
But the all time worst must be those pesky peacekeepers, who eventually will attack you no matter what you do.
laurens posted 06-07-99 05:16 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Thks for your much valued support!

Believers: 5
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 2
BR on: 11
BR off: 3

Monkeyboy posted 06-07-99 01:01 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Monkeyboy  Click Here to Email Monkeyboy     
Believers <I hate that Holy Bitch. Kill her as soon as possible>
BR: on

Believers: 6
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 2
BR on: 12
BR off: 3

Zozo posted 06-07-99 07:04 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Zozo  Click Here to Email Zozo     
Transcend. BR off.

Must be the Believers.

It doesn't matter what I try to do to placate her if Miriam gets Particle Impactor first then I'm as good as dead since she will do an Impact Infantry rush on me if I try to build the SP's, especially if I pick Wealth to help Industry and build things faster. Whenever I learn that I start next to the Believers, my only choice is to rush for Particle Impactor and make her surrender before she can research for it. That usually means some other factions will get all the goodie SP's and get on top of the power chart.

laurens posted 06-08-99 10:24 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Believers: 7
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 2
BR on: 12
BR off: 4
DilithiumDad posted 06-08-99 10:43 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DilithiumDad  Click Here to Email DilithiumDad     
Believers on Thinker, BR on is much harder.

Believers are a killer early, as Zozo says --for a blow-by-blow description of an epic 100-year struggle with Miriam, see "The Myth of Early Conquest" thread.

They are also a problem late, if they've gobbled up another faction they are pretty tough to beat. They were actually #2 in tech in one game, because of their huge number of bases and heavy probing and bullying.

Maitreia posted 06-08-99 12:54 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Maitreia  Click Here to Email Maitreia     
Absolutely the PK's. The Hive and Believers aren't so bad, at least you know from the beginning that they're going to come after you. Lal is such a hypocrite... "Peace"keepers my butt! (plus I get sick of looking at his grubby face )

I play with BR off, Transcend difficulty. (Harder to play with BR on I'm sure, but I like the look of the tech choice screen when it comes up.)


Mait

Natguy posted 06-08-99 02:11 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Natguy  Click Here to Email Natguy     
Believers
BR off
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Actually the Spartans too, but the B's are MUCH worse.
laurens posted 06-08-99 08:29 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Believers: 9
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 3
BR on: 14
BR off: 5
Series II posted 06-09-99 10:20 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Series II    
I think that I found a neat feature/bug. I have the game almost won, but have been waiting until I get choppers to take on the believers. She has #1 military, but I think mine is better equipped.

In this game the beleivers have wanted to declare war for about 50 years. Any time one of my units goes to our (my and the believer) border and meets a believer unit she delcares war. I reload from saved game and don't move the unit to the border. I have tested this every 5 years for 50 years. Anytime I meet one of her units she delcares war, but IF I STAY MORE THAT 1 SQUARE away from her border contact is not made and she does not declare war.

She is at war with the 2 lesser factions, but it seems like she will not initiate a war unless our units meet.

Other thoughts.....

laurens posted 06-10-99 03:29 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Series II: Then Miriam don't make for a worthy opponent?

What's your vote then?

Series II posted 06-10-99 09:52 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Series II    
If I must vote I vote for Miriam. I might have found a feature/bug that prevents her from declaring war, but it is still a pain to have to kill all her units. Sort of like wading in a swamp. You can't move because there are units everywhere.

On a sort of side note solar flares just happened in my game. I am building a chopper in about 20 of my cities and should have 1-2 choppers for every believer city when the solar flares stop. I hope to take all her 15 or so cities in 1 turn.

laurens posted 06-10-99 12:32 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Series II: Many thks ...also for the insight

Believers: 10
Hive: 5
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 3
BR on: 14
BR off: 5

laurens posted 06-16-99 07:22 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Last call for votes:

To generalize, the Believers are leading the vote for being the worst of the lot, and blind research makes for a tougher challenge.


P.S. You may also want to refer to the poll: Blind tech on/off under "Games".

icosahedron posted 06-16-99 12:58 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for icosahedron    
Believers are the most unreasonable, but it's relatively easy, and quite enjoyable, to kick Miriam's butt (and so distasteful to kiss it).

So I have to vote for Yang. I usually play UoP on huge random map, transcend ironman, blind research off, everything average, spoils off, do or die on. Because of the built in perimeter defense, Yang can withstand impact weapons for a while, and any battle with Yang slows to a crawl if fought early. And he always seems to ask for weapon tech, which I am loathe to give (1-3-1 armor units behind perimeter defense is too tough early in the game).

So Yang it is. That makes the count:

Believers: 10
Hive: 6
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 3
BR on: 14
BR off: 6

- icosahedron

Veracitas posted 06-16-99 03:36 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Veracitas  Click Here to Email Veracitas     
I find the Believers the most annoying faction in the game. Even if I conquer them, I do not get much in the way of techs or good bases. I have enjoyed certain games playing at them, but their slow research can become annoying. I play on Trascend or thinker on a huge map and my vote is for Blind Research on.

Running total:

Believers: 11
Hive: 6
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 3
BR on: 15
BR off: 6


--Veracitas

jimmytrick posted 06-16-99 11:57 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for jimmytrick  Click Here to Email jimmytrick     
As much as I would like to pick on the Orange Witch of Chiron, Brother Lal gave me a fit in one game, flat stopped me cold. Of course, he was using PBs on me. So I give him my vote.

Of course the game is tougher and more fun with BR.

laurens, for your next thread, what about getting reaction on the setting, Aggresive AI? I wonder how many folks have tried it and what they think?

Kefaed posted 06-17-99 12:38 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kefaed  Click Here to Email Kefaed     
Believers (Can't probe em')
Hive (close second, masses of troops)
BR on/off (I play both)
Transcend/Thinker (depending on my mood)
~Kefaed, Viva el Morgan!
Tgo posted 06-17-99 02:27 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Tgo  Click Here to Email Tgo     
Sheesh, I hate'em all. Hate'em all for different reasons though.

Gaians/Peacekeepers because they are suppose to be pacifists, then turn around and and declare war on me every chance they get.

UoP because they almost always hate me.

Hive, Believers and Spartans because they always like going to war, and usually give me quite a headache.

Well, I don't really hate Morgan too much, he seems to always like to make peace. Later in the game though he can be quite a pain.

My all time favorite nemesis would have to be Believers though.

I always play with blind research off too.

Believers: 12
Hive: 6
Spartans: 3
Peacekeepers: 3
BR on: 15
BR off: 7

laurens posted 06-17-99 08:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for laurens  Click Here to Email laurens     
Running total:

Believers: 13
Hive: 6
Peacekeepers: 4
Spartans: 3
BR on: 16
BR off: 7


***To Kafaed: I have included your vote for the Believers but what the "Blind research" factor? We don't have split votes here, it's either a vote or none.

Many thks

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