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jgmagnus posted 05-02-99 06:36 PM ET

Say, I think I just voted myself planetary leader. I killed/captured UoP & the dreaded Believers (i hate them to death). I am currently the most powerful faction by far (Spartans) so I elected myself Supreme Being. How long before I actually WIN? Don't the remaining factions have a certain amount of years to kick my ass? (that would be the Hive & Morgan)
thanks!
HolyWarrior posted 05-02-99 10:17 PM ET
You need 3/4 of the votes to be elected Supreme Leader. Once you get the vote, the other factions either go along or refuse.
If a faction refuses, then everyone gangs up on that faction until the death.
Smeagol posted 05-02-99 10:19 PM ET
No, when you get elected supreme leader the game is over.
Zoetrope posted 05-03-99 06:02 AM ET
jmagnus, you don't mean Planetary Governor do you?
ApcJK posted 05-03-99 11:32 AM ET
Smeagol: No, if someone refuses it isn't over until all agree.
jgmagnus posted 05-03-99 03:02 PM ET
wait wait wait
I think I had enough votes to vote myself Supreme Planetary Leader, even though the remaining 3 factions did not vote for me. But I keep playing the game. I am the Spartans and am beating everybody up (Morgan, Hive, and PKs are left). hOW can I win without kicking everyone's ass?? That would take too long. I currently have 20-attack technology. Don't I just need 23-attack then I can try for Transcendance?? The year is about 2450-2460. I think I am running out of time right? I am playing the average difficulty (forget what that is).
trippin daily posted 05-03-99 03:51 PM ET
jgmagnus, I suggest you go looking for the biggest can of whoop ass you can find, and promptly open it.
Trippin Daily
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Smeagol posted 05-03-99 04:45 PM ET
ApcJK-- Really? Last game I played I had was the PKs and I had 3/4 of the vote by myself. I elected myself supreme leader, and though none of the other factions agreed with it, I still won the game right there.
JT 3 posted 05-03-99 05:00 PM ET
No, no, no, see, all the other Factions can vote NAY and you'll still win, but if someone votes NAY and you win, they then have the option of "descending" from the vote. That means you have to go conquer them.
Smeagol posted 05-03-99 05:03 PM ET
I wonder why the other factions didn't do this to me last game-- the Spartans had a huge empire (mostly small bases), and I would have enjoyed wiping them off the planet. Maybe I'll go back to the game and do it anyway.
akathisia posted 05-03-99 05:13 PM ET
jgmagnus, what patch are you playing? i think a few people (me included) had the problem that the game would not end when you were elected supreme planetary leader in 1.0. i never heard this problem happening in the later patches though.
jgmagnus posted 05-03-99 06:58 PM ET

Okay. HOw do I know what version I bought?
Also, how in hell can I tell if I AM Supreme Commander and that the other factions just don't agree with me???
Any other strategies for winning besides kicking them into oblivion?? Could't I just research War Tactics until I can win by Transcendance? I realize I don't have much time left.
dawgchild posted 05-03-99 11:53 PM ET
jgmagnus... you should be able to view your version number through "menu"... "game"... and then "view". something like that. why don't you just download a patch to be on the safe side.
to be able to tell who agrees with you or not on being the supreme leader... the factions who agree should become your pact brothers/sisters and those who don't declares vendetta.
Al Gore Rythm posted 05-04-99 10:22 AM ET
jg:
Have you downloaded any of the patches off the SMAC website? If not, you probably have the old cheesy version 1.0.
If you are Supreme Leader the game will end and you will win. Period. If other factions disagree with you, you'll have to hunt them down and murdelize 'em. Those who agreed with you instantly become your pact brothers.
ApcJK posted 05-04-99 12:35 PM ET
Woops... I got all confused now...
I checked the game's datalinx and it said if someone disagrees you, he'll have to be eliminated to achieve conquest victory (why conquest?)
jgmagnus posted 05-04-99 01:45 PM ET

Son of a!
I downloaded the 3.0 USA patch so I should be okay in that regard, BUT I downloaded the 3.0 during the middle of my game. Hope that does not matter.
Heck, why can't I just Planet-Buster the remaining 3 factions into Oblivion? Actually, Yang is toast in about 10 more rounds. Then just the Pks & Morgan to deal with.
The way I feel is that the other factions have NO CHANCE at this point. Just GIVE UP! I am so much more powerful than they are. BY ABOUT 20 TIMES! They barely have a graph while I am near the top of the screen! What's up with that??
akathisia posted 05-04-99 09:15 PM ET
I think if you PB the remaining factions, they'll all declare Vandetta on you. However, you could always sink every single base of theirs into the sea. Then it doesn't matter what they think.
Enoch posted 05-07-99 12:41 AM ET
Jgmagnus-
About changing versions in the middle of the game, I started by playing the Hive and then realized that when under police state and planned economy they were crippled by inefficientcy. I was playing version 1.0, but in 3.0 the hive is immune to inefficientcy. When I upgraded to 3.0 nothing changed in my old game in regards to inefficientcy, but in the new games my Hive is immune.
Plato90s posted 05-07-99 01:12 AM ET
Actually, there's only been one occasion in which a vote for Supreme Leader was contested militarily.
Playing as the Gaians, I called for a vote for Supreme Leader. Since I had over 700 votes and all other factions put together only had 140, easy victory. To my surprise, the Hive [2nd strongest, but far behind] actually decided to oppose the results of the elections.
The 3 factions who voted against me [PJs were submissive Pact Brothers], Spartans, Morganites, and Believers, immediately declared a Pact with me and Vendetta against Yang.
First time it happened. BTW, Yang had already PBed me once, so they already committed a major atrocity. That may have affected the decision to oppose the vote.
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Author	Topic: SUpreme Planetary Leader Question
jgmagnus	posted 05-02-99 06:36 PM ET Say, I think I just voted myself planetary leader. I killed/captured UoP & the dreaded Believers (i hate them to death). I am currently the most powerful faction by far (Spartans) so I elected myself Supreme Being. How long before I actually WIN? Don't the remaining factions have a certain amount of years to kick my ass? (that would be the Hive & Morgan) thanks!
HolyWarrior	posted 05-02-99 10:17 PM ET You need 3/4 of the votes to be elected Supreme Leader. Once you get the vote, the other factions either go along or refuse. If a faction refuses, then everyone gangs up on that faction until the death.
Smeagol	posted 05-02-99 10:19 PM ET No, when you get elected supreme leader the game is over.
Zoetrope	posted 05-03-99 06:02 AM ET jmagnus, you don't mean Planetary Governor do you?
ApcJK	posted 05-03-99 11:32 AM ET Smeagol: No, if someone refuses it isn't over until all agree.
jgmagnus	posted 05-03-99 03:02 PM ET wait wait wait I think I had enough votes to vote myself Supreme Planetary Leader, even though the remaining 3 factions did not vote for me. But I keep playing the game. I am the Spartans and am beating everybody up (Morgan, Hive, and PKs are left). hOW can I win without kicking everyone's ass?? That would take too long. I currently have 20-attack technology. Don't I just need 23-attack then I can try for Transcendance?? The year is about 2450-2460. I think I am running out of time right? I am playing the average difficulty (forget what that is).
trippin daily	posted 05-03-99 03:51 PM ET jgmagnus, I suggest you go looking for the biggest can of whoop ass you can find, and promptly open it. Trippin Daily - -
Smeagol	posted 05-03-99 04:45 PM ET ApcJK-- Really? Last game I played I had was the PKs and I had 3/4 of the vote by myself. I elected myself supreme leader, and though none of the other factions agreed with it, I still won the game right there.
JT 3	posted 05-03-99 05:00 PM ET No, no, no, see, all the other Factions can vote NAY and you'll still win, but if someone votes NAY and you win, they then have the option of "descending" from the vote. That means you have to go conquer them.
Smeagol	posted 05-03-99 05:03 PM ET I wonder why the other factions didn't do this to me last game-- the Spartans had a huge empire (mostly small bases), and I would have enjoyed wiping them off the planet. Maybe I'll go back to the game and do it anyway.
akathisia	posted 05-03-99 05:13 PM ET jgmagnus, what patch are you playing? i think a few people (me included) had the problem that the game would not end when you were elected supreme planetary leader in 1.0. i never heard this problem happening in the later patches though.
jgmagnus	posted 05-03-99 06:58 PM ET Okay. HOw do I know what version I bought? Also, how in hell can I tell if I AM Supreme Commander and that the other factions just don't agree with me??? Any other strategies for winning besides kicking them into oblivion?? Could't I just research War Tactics until I can win by Transcendance? I realize I don't have much time left.
dawgchild	posted 05-03-99 11:53 PM ET jgmagnus... you should be able to view your version number through "menu"... "game"... and then "view". something like that. why don't you just download a patch to be on the safe side. to be able to tell who agrees with you or not on being the supreme leader... the factions who agree should become your pact brothers/sisters and those who don't declares vendetta.
Al Gore Rythm	posted 05-04-99 10:22 AM ET jg: Have you downloaded any of the patches off the SMAC website? If not, you probably have the old cheesy version 1.0. If you are Supreme Leader the game will end and you will win. Period. If other factions disagree with you, you'll have to hunt them down and murdelize 'em. Those who agreed with you instantly become your pact brothers.
ApcJK	posted 05-04-99 12:35 PM ET Woops... I got all confused now... I checked the game's datalinx and it said if someone disagrees you, he'll have to be eliminated to achieve conquest victory (why conquest?)
jgmagnus	posted 05-04-99 01:45 PM ET Son of a! I downloaded the 3.0 USA patch so I should be okay in that regard, BUT I downloaded the 3.0 during the middle of my game. Hope that does not matter. Heck, why can't I just Planet-Buster the remaining 3 factions into Oblivion? Actually, Yang is toast in about 10 more rounds. Then just the Pks & Morgan to deal with. The way I feel is that the other factions have NO CHANCE at this point. Just GIVE UP! I am so much more powerful than they are. BY ABOUT 20 TIMES! They barely have a graph while I am near the top of the screen! What's up with that??
akathisia	posted 05-04-99 09:15 PM ET I think if you PB the remaining factions, they'll all declare Vandetta on you. However, you could always sink every single base of theirs into the sea. Then it doesn't matter what they think.
Enoch	posted 05-07-99 12:41 AM ET Jgmagnus- About changing versions in the middle of the game, I started by playing the Hive and then realized that when under police state and planned economy they were crippled by inefficientcy. I was playing version 1.0, but in 3.0 the hive is immune to inefficientcy. When I upgraded to 3.0 nothing changed in my old game in regards to inefficientcy, but in the new games my Hive is immune.
Plato90s	posted 05-07-99 01:12 AM ET Actually, there's only been one occasion in which a vote for Supreme Leader was contested militarily. Playing as the Gaians, I called for a vote for Supreme Leader. Since I had over 700 votes and all other factions put together only had 140, easy victory. To my surprise, the Hive [2nd strongest, but far behind] actually decided to oppose the results of the elections. The 3 factions who voted against me [PJs were submissive Pact Brothers], Spartans, Morganites, and Believers, immediately declared a Pact with me and Vendetta against Yang. First time it happened. BTW, Yang had already PBed me once, so they already committed a major atrocity. That may have affected the decision to oppose the vote.