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Singularity posted 07-13-99 05:00 PM ET
I spent all day playing and didn't run into any, but I know they are there. What are the bugs?
Krushala posted 07-13-99 06:03 PM ET
so far it seems to be just the longer load times. And the remaining bugs that were discovered after submitting the old list. Damn faction comm window pop up.
aceplayer posted 07-13-99 06:41 PM ET
bugs???
Firaxis has bugs?????
Resource Consumer posted 07-13-99 07:37 PM ET
You ask us?
Fine, because we'll find them and we care.
Firaxis doesn't.
Go and ask Sid and Brian on a Sinday morning as they're polishing their new Ferraris.
Resource Consumer
- cynicle, moi? -

Resource Consumer posted 07-13-99 07:40 PM ET
Love it
"Sinday" - either ask Miriam or Barbie (sorry, Deidre)
.. and it should be "cynical". I think (somewhat out of practice, which is slightly embarassing as it's the sa,e as English)
Resource Consumer
- linguistically crippled -
Denker posted 07-14-99 05:06 AM ET
The most annoying bug still in patch 4 ist the Golden Age Bug. It was this bug I waited for, but they didn't fix it. The Golden Age Bug means that you don't get population booms with Democracy/Childrens Creche/Golden Age which results in growth +6. With Democracy/Childrens Creche/Planned Economy this works fine and I use it a lot. It gives you a heavy development boose from sometimes average 7 city size to nearly 18 (for PK). The bug is especially bad for Morgan who can't use any population boom (My games are usually over before I build Cloning Vats).
There are also bugs in multiplayer. I can't use crawlers to support SPs, and many of the options don't work as they should.
But apart from this I think the number of bugs is now small enough to play without trouble. I have only one wish for future developments: Make the AI much much better than it is now. Now you can win simply if you understand all the rules by nearly every strategy.
Rakeesh posted 07-14-99 10:01 AM ET
WHAT THE HECK IS A 'nexus manifold'?! Those words don't go together! Other than that.. i don't have any problems with the 4.0 patch. I still want orbital weapons platforms though (I know, i've been saying that a lot).
hroman21 posted 07-14-99 12:55 PM ET
I recently installed v4.0 and observed a strange effect that I can only describe as a bug. I wanted to know if anyone else has seen this behavior.
Here's what happened:
I have a fighter plane attacking an empty enemy city. I devided "what the hell, never done this before and want to see what happens". The attack consisted of a bombing
run targeted on the empty city. I click and nothing happens. Ok, ho-hum. Next turn, I
see that my plane is completely re-fueled. Hmmm. I fly around to spend fuel and try
again. Next turn the plane is completely re-fueled. Ok. This is neat. I keep the plane up doing bombing runs (never landing) to see how long I can keep the plane in the air, and so far, I haven't been able to crash it. That is, of course, as long as the enemy city remains empty.
Has anyone seen this before? Mind you, I've hardly read through this forum so I don't know if this is a known (unknown to me) behavior.
Regards,
hroman21
RenderDrone posted 07-15-99 10:20 PM ET
Singularity, you still around?
Wonder if you remember me....
Giant posted 07-16-99 02:55 AM ET
Excuse the possible crosspost:
Bugs in v4 (or ones that may have existed earlier but I never found):
1. Probe team menu item 'assassinate researchers' does not appear.
2. Self-Aware Colony does not fully work, maintainence is halved but no extra police.
3. Non-lethal methods does not always work. With police rating of 0 or 1 there is no effect.
4. When Psi attack SAM unit attacks non-psi SAM unit there is no 1:1. Instead the non-psi gets the usual attack strength, say 13:1 for shard vs. psi interceptor.
5. And perimeter defenses seems to work differently or not at all. Still looking into this one.
6. And, of course, the other glitches not fixed, fudged difficulty settings, popup windows that don't fit etc.
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Author	Topic: Can anyone tell me about the bugs in v4.0?
Singularity	posted 07-13-99 05:00 PM ET I spent all day playing and didn't run into any, but I know they are there. What are the bugs?
Krushala	posted 07-13-99 06:03 PM ET so far it seems to be just the longer load times. And the remaining bugs that were discovered after submitting the old list. Damn faction comm window pop up.
aceplayer	posted 07-13-99 06:41 PM ET bugs??? Firaxis has bugs?????
Resource Consumer	posted 07-13-99 07:37 PM ET You ask us? Fine, because we'll find them and we care. Firaxis doesn't. Go and ask Sid and Brian on a Sinday morning as they're polishing their new Ferraris. Resource Consumer - cynicle, moi? -
Resource Consumer	posted 07-13-99 07:40 PM ET Love it "Sinday" - either ask Miriam or Barbie (sorry, Deidre) .. and it should be "cynical". I think (somewhat out of practice, which is slightly embarassing as it's the sa,e as English) Resource Consumer - linguistically crippled -
Denker	posted 07-14-99 05:06 AM ET The most annoying bug still in patch 4 ist the Golden Age Bug. It was this bug I waited for, but they didn't fix it. The Golden Age Bug means that you don't get population booms with Democracy/Childrens Creche/Golden Age which results in growth +6. With Democracy/Childrens Creche/Planned Economy this works fine and I use it a lot. It gives you a heavy development boose from sometimes average 7 city size to nearly 18 (for PK). The bug is especially bad for Morgan who can't use any population boom (My games are usually over before I build Cloning Vats). There are also bugs in multiplayer. I can't use crawlers to support SPs, and many of the options don't work as they should. But apart from this I think the number of bugs is now small enough to play without trouble. I have only one wish for future developments: Make the AI much much better than it is now. Now you can win simply if you understand all the rules by nearly every strategy.
Rakeesh	posted 07-14-99 10:01 AM ET WHAT THE HECK IS A 'nexus manifold'?! Those words don't go together! Other than that.. i don't have any problems with the 4.0 patch. I still want orbital weapons platforms though (I know, i've been saying that a lot).
hroman21	posted 07-14-99 12:55 PM ET I recently installed v4.0 and observed a strange effect that I can only describe as a bug. I wanted to know if anyone else has seen this behavior. Here's what happened: I have a fighter plane attacking an empty enemy city. I devided "what the hell, never done this before and want to see what happens". The attack consisted of a bombing run targeted on the empty city. I click and nothing happens. Ok, ho-hum. Next turn, I see that my plane is completely re-fueled. Hmmm. I fly around to spend fuel and try again. Next turn the plane is completely re-fueled. Ok. This is neat. I keep the plane up doing bombing runs (never landing) to see how long I can keep the plane in the air, and so far, I haven't been able to crash it. That is, of course, as long as the enemy city remains empty. Has anyone seen this before? Mind you, I've hardly read through this forum so I don't know if this is a known (unknown to me) behavior. Regards, hroman21
RenderDrone	posted 07-15-99 10:20 PM ET Singularity, you still around? Wonder if you remember me....
Giant	posted 07-16-99 02:55 AM ET Excuse the possible crosspost: Bugs in v4 (or ones that may have existed earlier but I never found): 1. Probe team menu item 'assassinate researchers' does not appear. 2. Self-Aware Colony does not fully work, maintainence is halved but no extra police. 3. Non-lethal methods does not always work. With police rating of 0 or 1 there is no effect. 4. When Psi attack SAM unit attacks non-psi SAM unit there is no 1:1. Instead the non-psi gets the usual attack strength, say 13:1 for shard vs. psi interceptor. 5. And perimeter defenses seems to work differently or not at all. Still looking into this one. 6. And, of course, the other glitches not fixed, fudged difficulty settings, popup windows that don't fit etc.