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Centaurion posted 07-09-99 07:37 AM ET
Well, how many do?
The game always get too boring when I know I�m going to win anyway....
Is it just me that is have no pacience? (Is that spelled correct?)
Resource Consumer posted 07-09-99 07:45 AM ET
I have - twice.
Once when I first got the game - I mean you've got to go through to the end at least once.
The second this week, where Yang was voted Supreme Leader and I dissented. I tried to prove a point, I could have transcended, cornered the energy market but, wtf, I had to show Yang, Deidre, Mim and Santiago the eroor of their ways.
Anyway, I PBed them to bits while they were launching the solar shade - the sea levels went up and down like a yoyo.
Yes it takes along time, and I think you need the patience of a saint to do it...
Resource Consumer posted 07-09-99 07:46 AM ET
unl;ess, of course, you go for a rush early on.
Not really to be advised when playing as Morgan, though.
Darkstar posted 07-09-99 04:22 PM ET
Sometimes I do. Depends on the mood I am in, and how often they have ticked me off.
Sometimes I take a nice peaceful Diplomatic Victory.
Sometimes they won't let you do anything less, and the game is over before any other options have been discovered.
-Darkstar
cousLee posted 07-09-99 04:58 PM ET
I do, all the time (yes, I still play SP). I quit allowing surrender factions. When I go for a conquest, I go for the whole planet. It's more demented (oops, I mean fun) that way.
Krushala posted 07-09-99 06:27 PM ET
I do it all the time in thinker and transcend. I'm not a very good builder and the ai never lets me build. So I just go out and kick their ass. If I don't I almost always lose. I usually don't do conquest victory. I will leave 1 or 2 cities left. This cuts down on turn time also when all of my units are on hold, and the ai has none. Then if I'm close enough I will transcend.
Wank posted 07-10-99 12:59 AM ET
I too, so far, have not finished with a conquest victory. However, bear in mind that I have only had the game for about 3 weeks.
Anyway, so far my game progress has been like this:
2 Games on easiest (citizen?), was ANNIHILATING the ai, so I just quit when I took a look at the faction dominance chart and saw that I was about 10 TIMES higher than the next powerful faction. (both UoP)
1 Game on the next lvl with morgan, gave up after about 20 turns cause at that time I didn't know how to play Morgan.
1 game on talent, geians, quit, didn't like them too much.
2 games on librarian. First with Morgan (after reading numerous Morgan strat guides and combing thru the forum posts, REALLY helped, esp Michael, whom I actually emailed a save game for his opinion), ended with Supreme leader victory =)
second with UoP, stopped playing about 70 years in, realizing librarian wasn't funa nymore
currently in Thinker lvl game with UoP
only me, Deidre, lal, and yang left. D and L are my submissive pact siblings, yang just pissed me off by PBing 2 bases that held like 7 shard needlejets each. So i'm gonna TRY to be patient enough for a conquest. hehe..Just PBed his PB producing base...next target...the Hive HQ MWUAHAHA
OOh, that was long. My hole (so far) Smac life story
Wank
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-10-99 01:13 AM ET
Well actually I finish all my games as I cant find it in me to let any of them off the hook. Gas ...PB...base obliteration...deadly viruses.. I cant help it I have to do it.
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-10-99 01:16 AM ET
On a side note ..I finish all my games on conquest... No other way except one time I picked up a save game close to the end and after I conquered the first time I tried it as Transcending. I bought it off relatively quickly to see what it was like. Didnt do anything for me. I prefer to completely annihilate eceryone and everything.But hey...thats just me.
Krushala posted 07-10-99 11:50 AM ET
You have to do it. You must have obsessive/compulsive kick the ai's ass syndrome. No survivors. I suffer from that one too at times.
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-10-99 11:56 AM ET
Krushala...its like that in any game I play...kill all and be sole ruler/survivor.I guess I got that way from playing alot of old wargames with my brother and had to be that way in order to survive against him because thats how he played against me.
Krushala posted 07-10-99 01:07 PM ET
It's a great way to play the game. It's the only way I seem to survive on transcend. I usually only transcend for the points and percentage. But if the turns are getting too long, I'll go ahead and take the last couple of cities.
technophile posted 07-11-99 01:27 PM ET
I only play UoP (I just love the tech advantage), and almost always transcend (or have a diplomatic victory if I want to win in one turn, i.e. buy off everyone's votes). I try to expand as peacefully as I can so that I can get a lot of commerce, but the other faction leaders never let me, so if they attack me I'll crush them into submission.
But twice I've conquered the planet--one time the other factions wouldn't lay off, I was the only one with PB technology, so I just wiped them off the face of the planet. The second time was the same way (I'd used some nerve gas on the Believers or something and everyone declared Vendetta on me at once), but that time I only PB'd a few cities until the sea level rose so high that almost all of the enemy cities were submerged and wiped out (Miriam didn't even have the ability to make a pressure dome yet!) After that there were only a few sea-bases left, which were easily PB'd away. The whole thing didn't satisfy me as much as transcending, though, probably because Planet was so scarred and unliveable after I was done with it.
master k posted 07-12-99 06:35 AM ET
hm, maybe its me, who is insane, but i never wipe out all factions, and having no time to finish a game by ascent to t. i choose the diplomacy victory, if possible.
one game i tried to keep all factions in game by giving them some seabases i built especially for that purpose. but stupid miriam denied communication (having only 2 bases left) and got wiped out by evil *pb unlimited* mr. yang. that was kind of *real* UN-game.
master k
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Author	Topic: How many of you actually conquer the whole world?
Centaurion	posted 07-09-99 07:37 AM ET Well, how many do? The game always get too boring when I know I�m going to win anyway.... Is it just me that is have no pacience? (Is that spelled correct?)
Resource Consumer	posted 07-09-99 07:45 AM ET I have - twice. Once when I first got the game - I mean you've got to go through to the end at least once. The second this week, where Yang was voted Supreme Leader and I dissented. I tried to prove a point, I could have transcended, cornered the energy market but, wtf, I had to show Yang, Deidre, Mim and Santiago the eroor of their ways. Anyway, I PBed them to bits while they were launching the solar shade - the sea levels went up and down like a yoyo. Yes it takes along time, and I think you need the patience of a saint to do it...
Resource Consumer	posted 07-09-99 07:46 AM ET unl;ess, of course, you go for a rush early on. Not really to be advised when playing as Morgan, though.
Darkstar	posted 07-09-99 04:22 PM ET Sometimes I do. Depends on the mood I am in, and how often they have ticked me off. Sometimes I take a nice peaceful Diplomatic Victory. Sometimes they won't let you do anything less, and the game is over before any other options have been discovered. -Darkstar
cousLee	posted 07-09-99 04:58 PM ET I do, all the time (yes, I still play SP). I quit allowing surrender factions. When I go for a conquest, I go for the whole planet. It's more demented (oops, I mean fun) that way.
Krushala	posted 07-09-99 06:27 PM ET I do it all the time in thinker and transcend. I'm not a very good builder and the ai never lets me build. So I just go out and kick their ass. If I don't I almost always lose. I usually don't do conquest victory. I will leave 1 or 2 cities left. This cuts down on turn time also when all of my units are on hold, and the ai has none. Then if I'm close enough I will transcend.
Wank	posted 07-10-99 12:59 AM ET I too, so far, have not finished with a conquest victory. However, bear in mind that I have only had the game for about 3 weeks. Anyway, so far my game progress has been like this: 2 Games on easiest (citizen?), was ANNIHILATING the ai, so I just quit when I took a look at the faction dominance chart and saw that I was about 10 TIMES higher than the next powerful faction. (both UoP) 1 Game on the next lvl with morgan, gave up after about 20 turns cause at that time I didn't know how to play Morgan. 1 game on talent, geians, quit, didn't like them too much. 2 games on librarian. First with Morgan (after reading numerous Morgan strat guides and combing thru the forum posts, REALLY helped, esp Michael, whom I actually emailed a save game for his opinion), ended with Supreme leader victory =) second with UoP, stopped playing about 70 years in, realizing librarian wasn't funa nymore currently in Thinker lvl game with UoP only me, Deidre, lal, and yang left. D and L are my submissive pact siblings, yang just pissed me off by PBing 2 bases that held like 7 shard needlejets each. So i'm gonna TRY to be patient enough for a conquest. hehe..Just PBed his PB producing base...next target...the Hive HQ MWUAHAHA OOh, that was long. My hole (so far) Smac life story Wank
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-10-99 01:13 AM ET Well actually I finish all my games as I cant find it in me to let any of them off the hook. Gas ...PB...base obliteration...deadly viruses.. I cant help it I have to do it.
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-10-99 01:16 AM ET On a side note ..I finish all my games on conquest... No other way except one time I picked up a save game close to the end and after I conquered the first time I tried it as Transcending. I bought it off relatively quickly to see what it was like. Didnt do anything for me. I prefer to completely annihilate eceryone and everything.But hey...thats just me.
Krushala	posted 07-10-99 11:50 AM ET You have to do it. You must have obsessive/compulsive kick the ai's ass syndrome. No survivors. I suffer from that one too at times.
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-10-99 11:56 AM ET Krushala...its like that in any game I play...kill all and be sole ruler/survivor.I guess I got that way from playing alot of old wargames with my brother and had to be that way in order to survive against him because thats how he played against me.
Krushala	posted 07-10-99 01:07 PM ET It's a great way to play the game. It's the only way I seem to survive on transcend. I usually only transcend for the points and percentage. But if the turns are getting too long, I'll go ahead and take the last couple of cities.
technophile	posted 07-11-99 01:27 PM ET I only play UoP (I just love the tech advantage), and almost always transcend (or have a diplomatic victory if I want to win in one turn, i.e. buy off everyone's votes). I try to expand as peacefully as I can so that I can get a lot of commerce, but the other faction leaders never let me, so if they attack me I'll crush them into submission. But twice I've conquered the planet--one time the other factions wouldn't lay off, I was the only one with PB technology, so I just wiped them off the face of the planet. The second time was the same way (I'd used some nerve gas on the Believers or something and everyone declared Vendetta on me at once), but that time I only PB'd a few cities until the sea level rose so high that almost all of the enemy cities were submerged and wiped out (Miriam didn't even have the ability to make a pressure dome yet!) After that there were only a few sea-bases left, which were easily PB'd away. The whole thing didn't satisfy me as much as transcending, though, probably because Planet was so scarred and unliveable after I was done with it.
master k	posted 07-12-99 06:35 AM ET hm, maybe its me, who is insane, but i never wipe out all factions, and having no time to finish a game by ascent to t. i choose the diplomacy victory, if possible. one game i tried to keep all factions in game by giving them some seabases i built especially for that purpose. but stupid miriam denied communication (having only 2 bases left) and got wiped out by evil pb unlimited mr. yang. that was kind of real UN-game. master k