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MScottLV posted 07-07-99 05:24 PM ET
Something strange happened. I made the UoP surrender, then forced him into giving me his second to last base, and then bought the last one. He defeated himself!
Krushala posted 07-07-99 06:03 PM ET
Zakharov isn't as smart as we thought.
TheScientist posted 07-07-99 06:35 PM ET
I did this with the Belivers and the Morganites, too.
It seems, that a pact brother or a defeated faction never refuses to gives you a base, if you have enough gold.
The only city you can't buy is the capital, and a faction never surrenders before the capture of its captital.
Resource Consumer posted 07-07-99 07:19 PM ET
Hold it.
I'm confused.
Capital = last base
Next to last base = the other one
So how does this hang together?
I must be misunderstanding something...
HelloKitty posted 07-07-99 09:13 PM ET
If the computer does not have a capital then you can buy it to extinction.
Krushala posted 07-07-99 09:15 PM ET
I may be misunderstanding your question, but the last base isn't necessarily their capital. Usually I take over an enemies capital(HQ) pretty early.
laurens posted 07-07-99 10:23 PM ET
I have forced Santiago and Gaian to surrender when their capitals are still intact.
I dun really like to defeat their capitals, if you are planning to make them vassals. You know, sometimes they can do some research for you
Wank posted 07-07-99 10:57 PM ET
Actually sometimes the faction won't surrender even if you DO get their capital. (along with some other cities)
Case in point: I am currently in a Thinker level game, huge random, low oceans, ave everything else. I am playing as UoP (Ze Russian rule zee VERLD!). I started out next to Lal, and promptly forced him to surrender after he got pissed at me for using FM :P
Anyway, thru Lals sea scouting (I stuck to land, I hate the sea), I met Morgan. We formed a pact, and lived happy for a while. Then suddenly in the year 2251 I get a message saying something to the effect of Mogan is planning to corner the energy market, kill his HQ by 2271 or else...
So, I quickly find an undeveloped base in my territory, and the closest base to his HQ in his. I pull all my units out of mine and trade. Result: I get 7 laser Squads (2-2-1) and he gets a city that I take back in 2 turns.
I then send my 7 LS's against his HQ, and take it over. (er..afcter i break the pact)
Afterwards, i take about 7 of his 10 or so total cities, and the bastard is screwed but wont surrender. (probly cuz i was using green econ, he kept bitching about it )
Anyway, in the end I take him out completely. Sometimes the AI is so ****in strupid.
Wank
HelloKitty posted 07-08-99 04:21 PM ET
Isn't that kind of like cheating?
using a loophole in the game.

Kitty
HelloKitty posted 07-08-99 04:21 PM ET
Isn't that kind of like cheating?
using a loophole in the game.

Kitty
Wank posted 07-08-99 04:36 PM ET
Shrug. At least I don't use the editor to suddenly give myself 50 PBs
Wank
aceplayer posted 07-08-99 04:47 PM ET
HelloKitty - you repeated yourself...
aceplayer posted 07-08-99 04:47 PM ET
HelloKitty - you repeated yourself...
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Author	Topic: Buying a factiont out
MScottLV	posted 07-07-99 05:24 PM ET Something strange happened. I made the UoP surrender, then forced him into giving me his second to last base, and then bought the last one. He defeated himself!
Krushala	posted 07-07-99 06:03 PM ET Zakharov isn't as smart as we thought.
TheScientist	posted 07-07-99 06:35 PM ET I did this with the Belivers and the Morganites, too. It seems, that a pact brother or a defeated faction never refuses to gives you a base, if you have enough gold. The only city you can't buy is the capital, and a faction never surrenders before the capture of its captital.
Resource Consumer	posted 07-07-99 07:19 PM ET Hold it. I'm confused. Capital = last base Next to last base = the other one So how does this hang together? I must be misunderstanding something...
HelloKitty	posted 07-07-99 09:13 PM ET If the computer does not have a capital then you can buy it to extinction.
Krushala	posted 07-07-99 09:15 PM ET I may be misunderstanding your question, but the last base isn't necessarily their capital. Usually I take over an enemies capital(HQ) pretty early.
laurens	posted 07-07-99 10:23 PM ET I have forced Santiago and Gaian to surrender when their capitals are still intact. I dun really like to defeat their capitals, if you are planning to make them vassals. You know, sometimes they can do some research for you
Wank	posted 07-07-99 10:57 PM ET Actually sometimes the faction won't surrender even if you DO get their capital. (along with some other cities) Case in point: I am currently in a Thinker level game, huge random, low oceans, ave everything else. I am playing as UoP (Ze Russian rule zee VERLD!). I started out next to Lal, and promptly forced him to surrender after he got pissed at me for using FM :P Anyway, thru Lals sea scouting (I stuck to land, I hate the sea), I met Morgan. We formed a pact, and lived happy for a while. Then suddenly in the year 2251 I get a message saying something to the effect of Mogan is planning to corner the energy market, kill his HQ by 2271 or else... So, I quickly find an undeveloped base in my territory, and the closest base to his HQ in his. I pull all my units out of mine and trade. Result: I get 7 laser Squads (2-2-1) and he gets a city that I take back in 2 turns. I then send my 7 LS's against his HQ, and take it over. (er..afcter i break the pact) Afterwards, i take about 7 of his 10 or so total cities, and the bastard is screwed but wont surrender. (probly cuz i was using green econ, he kept bitching about it ) Anyway, in the end I take him out completely. Sometimes the AI is so ****in strupid. Wank
HelloKitty	posted 07-08-99 04:21 PM ET Isn't that kind of like cheating? using a loophole in the game. Kitty
HelloKitty	posted 07-08-99 04:21 PM ET Isn't that kind of like cheating? using a loophole in the game. Kitty
Wank	posted 07-08-99 04:36 PM ET Shrug. At least I don't use the editor to suddenly give myself 50 PBs Wank
aceplayer	posted 07-08-99 04:47 PM ET HelloKitty - you repeated yourself...
aceplayer	posted 07-08-99 04:47 PM ET HelloKitty - you repeated yourself...