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Chairman Genghis Sean posted 03-27-99 02:01 PM ET
I achieved a 249% rating with 3991 pts. playing as Librarian on a huge world and winning by Transcendence. Anybody beat that?
The final book was "The 27 Habits of Highly Effective Talents". Not quite as exciting as "The Little Terraformer that Could".
player2 posted 03-27-99 02:17 PM ET
922%, transcend Ironman, large map, ascent to transcendance at 2330, 'builder' gamestyle. Could have been much higher (a newly conquerored continent was just beginning a population boom)
SnowFire posted 03-27-99 02:52 PM ET
Does it matter? You can use the Telepathic Matrix/Cloning Vats evil combo to destroy all those in your path and rack up a giant score. But for the record, I forget the exact score, but I got some ridiculously high score with the University on Trancend awhile ago by transcending and got the final book (Everything you need to know abuot Transcendance, or something similiar).
player2 posted 03-27-99 08:50 PM ET
Well, as I pointed out to analyst a few days ago, the Cloning Vat/Matrix combo can be artificially duplicated by a 'builder' faction by manipulating government and psych levels appropriately, so the combo really isn't so unfair. But once you get that population boom going, your score skyrockets. This is akin to the old Civ tactic of getting a 'we love the president' day in every city under a democracy, and pumping up the population to inflate your empire's power.
SnowFire posted 03-27-99 09:26 PM ET
And you also get a ridiculously high amount of points for future techs- I won the game just as I discovered Controlled Singularity (I had guided my techs to Threshold of Transcendece, so there were still about 5 or 6 techs left to research). I was getting about a tech a turn, so every turn afterward I waited would be plus 10 points for tech and who knows how many for population, compared to a 2 point leak.
Chairman Genghis Sean posted 03-28-99 12:24 PM ET
I've seen several of you refer to a "builder" gamestyle. I've only completed one game, so I'm not sure exactly what that is. I suspect that it is something to do with the Governer. Do you just set all your bases to "build" or something? I've never used the governer function and I usually prefer to micromanage my formers for the first half of the game, too. Advice, anybody?
SnowFire posted 03-28-99 01:18 PM ET
Um, no, not at all. If you want to go anywhere on the higher levels, you better not play with governors. The builder style simply means drilling a lot of boreholes, making a lot of energy for money and science, and building facilities with a lot of resources instead of working for conquest. Of course, if you're forced into it for expansion needs, you have a large war chest to buy funds, but that's not the main point, at all.
IDAK posted 03-29-99 06:00 PM ET
Score: 244%, got to same ending book level.
Faction: Spartan Federation
Integrity: Wicked
Might: Unsurpassed
Level: Transcend Ironman
Year: right after sunspots stoppped, @2310 I think
Would've been sooner but I had to wait for sunspots 'cause I didn't want to just crush Zakharov I wanted him to surrender like all the others. It's a lot better to get all the other factions to vendetta against the last one, that way he/she gets softened up and by the time you can move on him/her there's almost nothing left.
This was the first time I won a TI game, v3.0 AI is much much tougher. I kept thinking "It's a good thing I got to Yang early on or that blue wave moving through my territory to attack Zak would be pounding on me instead."
player2 posted 03-30-99 12:27 AM ET
CharimanGK: The 'builder' and 'conqueror' strategies are basically this: a 'builder' prefers to build up the infrastructure of his empire and avoid unnecessary hostile engagements, the result being an average sized empire with relatively large cities, enormous energy and knowledge output, and a moderately sized military primarily used for defense. A 'conqueror' relies heavily upon military action, and accumulates power by preying upon other factions. They typically have large numbers of small cities and a large military, and rely upon diplomacy and probe team actions to keep current on technology.
For more info, check out the 'builder'/'conqueror' debates in the older Transcend Ironman threads; this should clear up any confusion.
Koshko posted 03-30-99 12:39 AM ET
Anyone do a Forester technique? I've been building Forests everywhere except high terrian (Solars w/ the Ech Mirror). After Hybrid Forest, you are 3,2,2 per square +1 for all the river I drill.
I fit the builder. All my cites have 1 army defending. I progessively mass-Upgrade when I get massive money.
Currently, I'm on Talent level University w/ hugh map of Planet. I've just discovered the last regular tech. I have total population boom going, and I'm working on converting my defenter to a Clean, Singular Infantry (or something like that). I won't be done for about 50yrs I guess, but my current score is about 1200.
yin26 posted 03-30-99 01:06 AM ET
I can't tell you the score (just some weird computer language came up where a score should have been), but it was on the secret level beyond Transcend (BadAss).
I started off on a one square island. I was attacked by all six factions the very next turn. They already had drop shock troops, orbital insertion and several hundred waves of captured/manufactured mindworms.
My lone scout just grit his teeth and waited. As the only defender, he knew that he was the city's only hope. That and he couldn't run away--the city was already on this only dot of land to be seen for miles.
I didn't mind the shock troops and the mindworms. It was the 15 Planet Busters--in consecutive order--that really kept me busy.
Somehow, and I prefer to think it was skill, my scout beat them back.
I went on to win that game (after producing a few more scouts, just to be sure).
The book title at the end was:
"Want to be an intern for Firaxis?"
I have since calculated my score by hand, and my best calculation is something like a 37,998% rating and 3+ million points.
Man, THAT was a game!
OmniDude posted 03-30-99 02:20 AM ET
ROFL, Yin
There's quite a bit of self-promo going on in these forums (though this thread isn't that bad).
I guess man (as opposed to woman?) is genetically predisposed for competition and subsequent bragging - or annoyance, depending on abilities and luck.
quizara tafwid posted 03-30-99 08:32 AM ET
Koshko: I go toally for foresting the continent I start on. I even level off rocky terrain so forests will grow there. One caveat: early in the game, until I get the right technologies to build tree farms and hybrid forests, I leave the rainy squares for farms/solar collectors. Once I get those technologies (blind on for fun) then I go back and convert them to forests.
When I'm done, the only things on the continent are forests, bases, and the silvery gleam of my magtubes that connect the bases...very pretty. Then I equip all of my formers with jump pods and start terraforming the rest of the world with forests. As for the ocean shelfs, kelp and tidal harnesses.
You'll end up with all of your bases at 40+ pop and every possible facility built (except punishment spheres). At this point, the other factions will call a council meeting to declare you supreme leader!
I guess this makes me a builder.
Toonces posted 03-30-99 10:17 PM ET
My Highest Score:
Difficulty: Thinker
Raw Score: 14,256
SMAC Percentage: 1069%
Finished by Transcendence on M.Y. 2485
Faction: Hive
Finished with Noble (Spotless) Rep and Unsurpassed Power.
Best City: 109 population
Got the book "Stairway to Transcendence"
I played a generally pacifistic game -- doing the whole Discover and Build bit mostly.
Okay, so I'm flexing my ego -- but it's not like I have any talents outside of video games...
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Author	Topic: Your highest SMAC score?
Chairman Genghis Sean	posted 03-27-99 02:01 PM ET I achieved a 249% rating with 3991 pts. playing as Librarian on a huge world and winning by Transcendence. Anybody beat that? The final book was "The 27 Habits of Highly Effective Talents". Not quite as exciting as "The Little Terraformer that Could".
player2	posted 03-27-99 02:17 PM ET 922%, transcend Ironman, large map, ascent to transcendance at 2330, 'builder' gamestyle. Could have been much higher (a newly conquerored continent was just beginning a population boom)
SnowFire	posted 03-27-99 02:52 PM ET Does it matter? You can use the Telepathic Matrix/Cloning Vats evil combo to destroy all those in your path and rack up a giant score. But for the record, I forget the exact score, but I got some ridiculously high score with the University on Trancend awhile ago by transcending and got the final book (Everything you need to know abuot Transcendance, or something similiar).
player2	posted 03-27-99 08:50 PM ET Well, as I pointed out to analyst a few days ago, the Cloning Vat/Matrix combo can be artificially duplicated by a 'builder' faction by manipulating government and psych levels appropriately, so the combo really isn't so unfair. But once you get that population boom going, your score skyrockets. This is akin to the old Civ tactic of getting a 'we love the president' day in every city under a democracy, and pumping up the population to inflate your empire's power.
SnowFire	posted 03-27-99 09:26 PM ET And you also get a ridiculously high amount of points for future techs- I won the game just as I discovered Controlled Singularity (I had guided my techs to Threshold of Transcendece, so there were still about 5 or 6 techs left to research). I was getting about a tech a turn, so every turn afterward I waited would be plus 10 points for tech and who knows how many for population, compared to a 2 point leak.
Chairman Genghis Sean	posted 03-28-99 12:24 PM ET I've seen several of you refer to a "builder" gamestyle. I've only completed one game, so I'm not sure exactly what that is. I suspect that it is something to do with the Governer. Do you just set all your bases to "build" or something? I've never used the governer function and I usually prefer to micromanage my formers for the first half of the game, too. Advice, anybody?
SnowFire	posted 03-28-99 01:18 PM ET Um, no, not at all. If you want to go anywhere on the higher levels, you better not play with governors. The builder style simply means drilling a lot of boreholes, making a lot of energy for money and science, and building facilities with a lot of resources instead of working for conquest. Of course, if you're forced into it for expansion needs, you have a large war chest to buy funds, but that's not the main point, at all.
IDAK	posted 03-29-99 06:00 PM ET Score: 244%, got to same ending book level. Faction: Spartan Federation Integrity: Wicked Might: Unsurpassed Level: Transcend Ironman Year: right after sunspots stoppped, @2310 I think Would've been sooner but I had to wait for sunspots 'cause I didn't want to just crush Zakharov I wanted him to surrender like all the others. It's a lot better to get all the other factions to vendetta against the last one, that way he/she gets softened up and by the time you can move on him/her there's almost nothing left. This was the first time I won a TI game, v3.0 AI is much much tougher. I kept thinking "It's a good thing I got to Yang early on or that blue wave moving through my territory to attack Zak would be pounding on me instead."
player2	posted 03-30-99 12:27 AM ET CharimanGK: The 'builder' and 'conqueror' strategies are basically this: a 'builder' prefers to build up the infrastructure of his empire and avoid unnecessary hostile engagements, the result being an average sized empire with relatively large cities, enormous energy and knowledge output, and a moderately sized military primarily used for defense. A 'conqueror' relies heavily upon military action, and accumulates power by preying upon other factions. They typically have large numbers of small cities and a large military, and rely upon diplomacy and probe team actions to keep current on technology. For more info, check out the 'builder'/'conqueror' debates in the older Transcend Ironman threads; this should clear up any confusion.
Koshko	posted 03-30-99 12:39 AM ET Anyone do a Forester technique? I've been building Forests everywhere except high terrian (Solars w/ the Ech Mirror). After Hybrid Forest, you are 3,2,2 per square +1 for all the river I drill. I fit the builder. All my cites have 1 army defending. I progessively mass-Upgrade when I get massive money. Currently, I'm on Talent level University w/ hugh map of Planet. I've just discovered the last regular tech. I have total population boom going, and I'm working on converting my defenter to a Clean, Singular Infantry (or something like that). I won't be done for about 50yrs I guess, but my current score is about 1200.
yin26	posted 03-30-99 01:06 AM ET I can't tell you the score (just some weird computer language came up where a score should have been), but it was on the secret level beyond Transcend (BadAss). I started off on a one square island. I was attacked by all six factions the very next turn. They already had drop shock troops, orbital insertion and several hundred waves of captured/manufactured mindworms. My lone scout just grit his teeth and waited. As the only defender, he knew that he was the city's only hope. That and he couldn't run away--the city was already on this only dot of land to be seen for miles. I didn't mind the shock troops and the mindworms. It was the 15 Planet Busters--in consecutive order--that really kept me busy. Somehow, and I prefer to think it was skill, my scout beat them back. I went on to win that game (after producing a few more scouts, just to be sure). The book title at the end was: "Want to be an intern for Firaxis?" I have since calculated my score by hand, and my best calculation is something like a 37,998% rating and 3+ million points. Man, THAT was a game!
OmniDude	posted 03-30-99 02:20 AM ET ROFL, Yin There's quite a bit of self-promo going on in these forums (though this thread isn't that bad). I guess man (as opposed to woman?) is genetically predisposed for competition and subsequent bragging - or annoyance, depending on abilities and luck.
quizara tafwid	posted 03-30-99 08:32 AM ET Koshko: I go toally for foresting the continent I start on. I even level off rocky terrain so forests will grow there. One caveat: early in the game, until I get the right technologies to build tree farms and hybrid forests, I leave the rainy squares for farms/solar collectors. Once I get those technologies (blind on for fun) then I go back and convert them to forests. When I'm done, the only things on the continent are forests, bases, and the silvery gleam of my magtubes that connect the bases...very pretty. Then I equip all of my formers with jump pods and start terraforming the rest of the world with forests. As for the ocean shelfs, kelp and tidal harnesses. You'll end up with all of your bases at 40+ pop and every possible facility built (except punishment spheres). At this point, the other factions will call a council meeting to declare you supreme leader! I guess this makes me a builder.
Toonces	posted 03-30-99 10:17 PM ET My Highest Score: Difficulty: Thinker Raw Score: 14,256 SMAC Percentage: 1069% Finished by Transcendence on M.Y. 2485 Faction: Hive Finished with Noble (Spotless) Rep and Unsurpassed Power. Best City: 109 population Got the book "Stairway to Transcendence" I played a generally pacifistic game -- doing the whole Discover and Build bit mostly. Okay, so I'm flexing my ego -- but it's not like I have any talents outside of video games...