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Freddz posted 03-17-99 11:02 PM ET
How the hell can you support Manchester United? Everyone knows that Newcastle is England's best team.
Khan Singh posted 03-17-99 11:08 PM ET
CELTIC!
Freddz posted 03-17-99 11:09 PM ET
Sorry couldn't help it. Are you a die hard soccer fan?
Freddz posted 03-17-99 11:10 PM ET
Dammit Khan you got before me
Celtic got Henke Larson(a swede)
Shining1 posted 03-17-99 11:11 PM ET
Aston Villa!
MrSparkle posted 03-17-99 11:44 PM ET
Atletico Madrid!
Brother Greg posted 03-18-99 12:25 AM ET
Hmm, let me see.
Who's on top of the table?
Who's in the last 4 of the champion's League?
Who's won 4 out of the last 6 championships?
Says it all really.
Gotta admit that I also have a bit of a soft spot for any team with an Aussie in it, so Leeds (though they rip off out youth, and make them play for England - bastards), Villa, Charlton. Hmm, there's a couple of others who I can't think of right now, but you get the drift.
Also support AC Milan to a much lesser extent. But I am pretty much a die hard Man Utd fan. Got the shirt and everything, and one day I am gonna get over there to see a game at Old Trafford.
Freddz posted 03-18-99 08:22 AM ET
Um, well forgot those facts... � Nevermind. Go Newcastle!
The Panther posted 03-18-99 08:28 AM ET
AArhus Fremad!!!!!!!
DerekM posted 03-18-99 09:28 AM ET
Is the US of A the only country not overcome by soccer (football) mania? There must be SOMEPLACE where it isn't played. Bloody hell...
I guess it's better than if cricket became the world sport...
Rugby, now there is a sport for the testosterone enhanced. It's like hockey without the body armor. They don't have blades and sticks, though, which might make it more interesting.
Freddz posted 03-18-99 12:30 PM ET
Hey, DerekM, haven't you heard? Soccer is the fastest growing sport in the States. Better pick a team fast, before you are out of date I'm really much more of a NHL fan than a soccer-fan.
MoSe posted 03-18-99 01:02 PM ET
Don't spit in the (soccer)fan.
Pleased and surprised for the reference to AC Milan, which I support since the age of four.
Sorry if I'm ungrateful, but all I can do is retaliate with (whispered: Chelsea?).
I was also for Bar�a against merengues, not anymore after they hired VanGaal.
I profess being a firm but *fair* fain tho; only I can't help chuckle and giggle when Milan (city) second team, Inter, get an headwash (howdoyousay?). Yesterday I was definitely on Manchester's side!
Although Italian, soccer is not my favourite sport, in the end (hate living with a football stadium next door!!!)
You'll never walk alone... (whoops!)
Saluti
MariOne
Shining1 posted 03-18-99 06:15 PM ET
DerekM: Good to hear.
Just don't get too hyped up on the violence thing. It's a pretty rough game, but Ice Hockey is worse. In rugby, offenses like punching, kicking, head high tackles etc, carry either a 10minute sin bin or else get you sent off - permanently. No replacement player allowed for the entire game. A bit different from a 2min penalty, eh.
Not to be too critical, but I get severely irritated when morons like Robin Williams (for instance) carry on like the game is a training camp for tribal headhunters. It's hard, but there are sports that are harder.
P.S Can you get super12 coverage in the U.S? Not at all? Oh well...
JT posted 03-18-99 06:49 PM ET
Yeah, the biggest sport in the US is by far football......ummmm, american football, that is. You know, with the oval-shaped ball and the touchdowns? No nets in that game.
Soccer is definatly growing here, (In America) though not as fast as everyone thinks.
Provost Forever,
JT
Brother Greg posted 03-18-99 07:43 PM ET
Well, I heard a report where there were more kids signed up for Soccer in the US than any other sport. Now either this is wrong, or it would be the fastest growing sport, seeing as before the World Cup, it certainly didn't have the most kids. Or something. Anyway, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, as I can only go by second hand reports here down under...
As much as I prefer a good game of Rugby (as opposed to the English playing Rugby ), there's something about a game that is played professionally in over 130 countries that makes soccer hard to beat.
yin26 posted 03-18-99 08:07 PM ET
O.K., now here's a sad story...
I used to play soccer religiously when I was a kid. It was my life. I didn't hold a teddy bear at night--I held a soccer ball. (well, "Striker Teddy" was there, too, but I sewed a little soccer ball to his foot [paw] and made him practice most of the time).
Finally, by the time I was 15, I made the U.S. National Youth Team. We toured Europe and did reasonably well. In the Dana Cup (Denmark) we finished 5th out of almost 200 teams. Later, we lost against Austria's national youth team 2-1.
England?
Our win, against their best group of 15 year-olds: 7-2. Yes, we demoralized them. They were like a bunch a Miriams to our force of Santiagos.
The sad part of this is at that time there was little hope of making soccer a career in the United States. So I quit as soon as I entered UCLA and dedicated my spare time to playing even MORE computer games. As you can see, that was a tragic decision. We would all be much happier if I were out on some soccer field right now getting pounded.
But I think this should serve to argue that the United States IS taking its soccer seriously and, were it not for its yet underdeveloped fan and money base, would be a world-champion contender. But just like our parents, we can't choose our country--not without a lot of paperwork anyway.
Just a warning to all you evil Europeans. Better practice a little harder and quit sucking down stroodles and hof.
Yin
Head Coach
Morristown Maulers
U.S.A.
Brother Greg posted 03-18-99 10:42 PM ET
Ah, well that explains a lot. You just headed way too many balls in your youth.
[Hey, stop throwing things at me, I'm joking.]

yin26 posted 03-19-99 04:10 AM ET
O.K.
You wanna play like that?
Me. You. Soccer Ball. 20 Minutes.
Yin
Athletic Coordinator
Winfield Elementary School
Bastion, Texas
tOFfGI posted 03-19-99 04:43 AM ET
AIK!!!!
Zoetrope posted 03-19-99 07:17 AM ET
Here in Melbourne, which provides a number of the better Australian soccer players, the most popular sport is of course Australian Rules Football. (For those of you who haven't seen this game, try to imagine basketball played just as quickly but on a field 150 meters long and 100 metres wide. Cross that with Gaelic and Rugby. Subtract the offside rule, the boring delays, and the overly intrusive umpires. Then magnify the most impressive features of those other games by two, and you're beginning to get the picture. All of this in a game devised during the gold rush of the 1850's.)
But Melbournians are fond of most sports. At least one suburban baseball club is over 127 years old, one of the world's premier cricket stadiums is here, many of the top national basketball teams are based here (Luke Longley of the Chicago Bulls is a local lad - he's not our best player btw, just one of the luckier better ones), many world athletic and swimming records have been set here, and did I mention that we're modest?
We serve petrolheads at Sandown and at the Calder Thunderdome (remember Mad Max the Road Warrior?), and large crowds watch the Melbourne F-1 Grand Prix each March. (Wish they'd put silencers on those engines, as they're jolly loud ten km away.)
For the more sedate and patient, golf courses abound, and Melbournians win the occasional US Major.
Our State holds major surfing competitions, long distance road races ... you name it (even Gridiron), we have it, and follow it.
Since the main point of this thread is soccer, I'd better confess my preferences: South Melbourne, followed by Liverpool, with Man United an honorable third. Red and white rule, ok? But I must admit an admiration for the Tottenham Hotspur team of yore, and for the days when Regis was king.
PS: According to the stories I've read, American Gridiron Football would be better described as Harvard Rugby. When the IV League colleges got together last century to choose a code of football, all colleges - except one - chose Soccer. Harvard insisted on Rugby. (I take it they always were snobs. But they do sound funny.
Resource Consumer posted 03-19-99 09:04 AM ET
For someone who plays the Morganites it has to be one of those go ahead publicly-quoted teams.
Millwall?
(ducks incoming hail of planetbusters)
DerekM posted 03-19-99 10:53 AM ET
For sheer American dominance, you cannot beat basketball. Any other sport is either wildly popular in other countries (baseball, soccer, hockey) or hardly even seen in other countries (American football). The skill of the best players on American teams is truly amazing (as are their paychecks and their egos).
Growing up in Massachusetts, the annual competition between the Celtics and the Lakers for the championship was almost a tradition, like drinking beer on St. Patrick's Day. (For those of you unfamiliar with the states, the Irish population around Boston is approximately the same as that of Ireland )
Ian the Mad posted 03-19-99 10:59 AM ET
Yeah Manchester!
:random guy walks up behind Ian and taps him on the shoulder:
Random guy: psst, hey buddy! You're American! You don't know what you're talking about! You're just brown nosing!
Ian: Shut up! ummmm... just ignore him.
RG: I heard that! You're just trying to score points with Brother Greg!
Ian: Hey! I resemble... er, resent that remark! I'll have you know that I've seen "The Van" twice now.
RG: Wonderful. A movie about a couple of Irish guys who run a fish and chips stand makes you an authority on soccer.
Ian: Shut up!
Shining1 posted 03-20-99 10:05 PM ET
Zoetrope: Gridiron (I use the name to irritate americian fans) sounds more like what you would get if you described rugby to a baseball fan . The play by play style (ball one!), long passes down field (Crack!), and people running angles to get by a group of defenders (like going around a baseball diamond).
Personally, good on harvard for their choice. Pity what they actually did to the game, however...
DHE_X2 posted 03-21-99 06:13 PM ET
ehh, I personally prefer hockey. It's like pro wrestling, on ice .
Brother Greg posted 03-21-99 07:48 PM ET
Yin: I would were I more fit, a sI used to be accounted quite a good soccer player in my youth. The then Australian coach once commented on me in a youth training camp that I could "put the ball on a pinhead", and that my mother should bring me to see him in 4 years or so (I was 12 at the time).
Unfortunately, though I continued to play for another 14 years or so, I never gave it the dedication it deserved. So, to put it shortly, you'd kick my arse, I'm sure.
And yeah, I've probably been hit in the head too many times by a ball. Would explain the baldness, anyway...
MikeH II posted 03-22-99 05:28 AM ET
Manchester United have the best squad.
Arsenal have the best first team.
Chelsea play the best football.
Chelsea won the European Super Cup this season, beating Real Madrid. Does that make them the best team in Europe?
Anyone got an opinion on KK's squad to meet the Poles on Saturday? Out of the squad he's picked I want to see:
Shearer Owen
Anderton
LeSaux Sherwood Beckham Parlour
Campbell Ferdinand Adams
Seaman
That's Anderton 'in the hole'. I hate David Batty with a passion but I can see Double K playing him instead of Sherwood. Also it's hard to take Super Becks off the right wing so I might swap him and Parlour. I just wish we had another decent left sided player so we could go back to 4-4-2, it suits English players so much better.
We shall see.
Freddz posted 03-22-99 01:17 PM ET
tOFfGI,
listen up! IFK G�teboooorg
If we're talking hockey I'll go for Ottawa Senators.
Finngall posted 03-22-99 09:50 PM ET
The most concise description of Australian Rules Football I've seen is:
A riot with goalposts.
--Peace,
Finngall, a bloody Yank who likes real football, Gridiron, *and* Aussie Rules, dammit! :-)
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Author	Topic: Alright Brother Greg, lets do it right here, right now.
Freddz	posted 03-17-99 11:02 PM ET How the hell can you support Manchester United? Everyone knows that Newcastle is England's best team.
Khan Singh	posted 03-17-99 11:08 PM ET CELTIC!
Freddz	posted 03-17-99 11:09 PM ET Sorry couldn't help it. Are you a die hard soccer fan?
Freddz	posted 03-17-99 11:10 PM ET Dammit Khan you got before me Celtic got Henke Larson(a swede)
Shining1	posted 03-17-99 11:11 PM ET Aston Villa!
MrSparkle	posted 03-17-99 11:44 PM ET Atletico Madrid!
Brother Greg	posted 03-18-99 12:25 AM ET Hmm, let me see. Who's on top of the table? Who's in the last 4 of the champion's League? Who's won 4 out of the last 6 championships? Says it all really. Gotta admit that I also have a bit of a soft spot for any team with an Aussie in it, so Leeds (though they rip off out youth, and make them play for England - bastards), Villa, Charlton. Hmm, there's a couple of others who I can't think of right now, but you get the drift. Also support AC Milan to a much lesser extent. But I am pretty much a die hard Man Utd fan. Got the shirt and everything, and one day I am gonna get over there to see a game at Old Trafford.
Freddz	posted 03-18-99 08:22 AM ET Um, well forgot those facts... � Nevermind. Go Newcastle!
The Panther	posted 03-18-99 08:28 AM ET AArhus Fremad!!!!!!!
DerekM	posted 03-18-99 09:28 AM ET Is the US of A the only country not overcome by soccer (football) mania? There must be SOMEPLACE where it isn't played. Bloody hell... I guess it's better than if cricket became the world sport... Rugby, now there is a sport for the testosterone enhanced. It's like hockey without the body armor. They don't have blades and sticks, though, which might make it more interesting.
Freddz	posted 03-18-99 12:30 PM ET Hey, DerekM, haven't you heard? Soccer is the fastest growing sport in the States. Better pick a team fast, before you are out of date I'm really much more of a NHL fan than a soccer-fan.
MoSe	posted 03-18-99 01:02 PM ET Don't spit in the (soccer)fan. Pleased and surprised for the reference to AC Milan, which I support since the age of four. Sorry if I'm ungrateful, but all I can do is retaliate with (whispered: Chelsea?). I was also for Bar�a against merengues, not anymore after they hired VanGaal. I profess being a firm but fair fain tho; only I can't help chuckle and giggle when Milan (city) second team, Inter, get an headwash (howdoyousay?). Yesterday I was definitely on Manchester's side! Although Italian, soccer is not my favourite sport, in the end (hate living with a football stadium next door!!!) You'll never walk alone... (whoops!) Saluti MariOne
Shining1	posted 03-18-99 06:15 PM ET DerekM: Good to hear. Just don't get too hyped up on the violence thing. It's a pretty rough game, but Ice Hockey is worse. In rugby, offenses like punching, kicking, head high tackles etc, carry either a 10minute sin bin or else get you sent off - permanently. No replacement player allowed for the entire game. A bit different from a 2min penalty, eh. Not to be too critical, but I get severely irritated when morons like Robin Williams (for instance) carry on like the game is a training camp for tribal headhunters. It's hard, but there are sports that are harder. P.S Can you get super12 coverage in the U.S? Not at all? Oh well...
JT	posted 03-18-99 06:49 PM ET Yeah, the biggest sport in the US is by far football......ummmm, american football, that is. You know, with the oval-shaped ball and the touchdowns? No nets in that game. Soccer is definatly growing here, (In America) though not as fast as everyone thinks. Provost Forever, JT
Brother Greg	posted 03-18-99 07:43 PM ET Well, I heard a report where there were more kids signed up for Soccer in the US than any other sport. Now either this is wrong, or it would be the fastest growing sport, seeing as before the World Cup, it certainly didn't have the most kids. Or something. Anyway, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, as I can only go by second hand reports here down under... As much as I prefer a good game of Rugby (as opposed to the English playing Rugby ), there's something about a game that is played professionally in over 130 countries that makes soccer hard to beat.
yin26	posted 03-18-99 08:07 PM ET O.K., now here's a sad story... I used to play soccer religiously when I was a kid. It was my life. I didn't hold a teddy bear at night--I held a soccer ball. (well, "Striker Teddy" was there, too, but I sewed a little soccer ball to his foot [paw] and made him practice most of the time). Finally, by the time I was 15, I made the U.S. National Youth Team. We toured Europe and did reasonably well. In the Dana Cup (Denmark) we finished 5th out of almost 200 teams. Later, we lost against Austria's national youth team 2-1. England? Our win, against their best group of 15 year-olds: 7-2. Yes, we demoralized them. They were like a bunch a Miriams to our force of Santiagos. The sad part of this is at that time there was little hope of making soccer a career in the United States. So I quit as soon as I entered UCLA and dedicated my spare time to playing even MORE computer games. As you can see, that was a tragic decision. We would all be much happier if I were out on some soccer field right now getting pounded. But I think this should serve to argue that the United States IS taking its soccer seriously and, were it not for its yet underdeveloped fan and money base, would be a world-champion contender. But just like our parents, we can't choose our country--not without a lot of paperwork anyway. Just a warning to all you evil Europeans. Better practice a little harder and quit sucking down stroodles and hof. Yin Head Coach Morristown Maulers U.S.A.
Brother Greg	posted 03-18-99 10:42 PM ET Ah, well that explains a lot. You just headed way too many balls in your youth. [Hey, stop throwing things at me, I'm joking.]
yin26	posted 03-19-99 04:10 AM ET O.K. You wanna play like that? Me. You. Soccer Ball. 20 Minutes. Yin Athletic Coordinator Winfield Elementary School Bastion, Texas
tOFfGI	posted 03-19-99 04:43 AM ET AIK!!!!
Zoetrope	posted 03-19-99 07:17 AM ET Here in Melbourne, which provides a number of the better Australian soccer players, the most popular sport is of course Australian Rules Football. (For those of you who haven't seen this game, try to imagine basketball played just as quickly but on a field 150 meters long and 100 metres wide. Cross that with Gaelic and Rugby. Subtract the offside rule, the boring delays, and the overly intrusive umpires. Then magnify the most impressive features of those other games by two, and you're beginning to get the picture. All of this in a game devised during the gold rush of the 1850's.) But Melbournians are fond of most sports. At least one suburban baseball club is over 127 years old, one of the world's premier cricket stadiums is here, many of the top national basketball teams are based here (Luke Longley of the Chicago Bulls is a local lad - he's not our best player btw, just one of the luckier better ones), many world athletic and swimming records have been set here, and did I mention that we're modest? We serve petrolheads at Sandown and at the Calder Thunderdome (remember Mad Max the Road Warrior?), and large crowds watch the Melbourne F-1 Grand Prix each March. (Wish they'd put silencers on those engines, as they're jolly loud ten km away.) For the more sedate and patient, golf courses abound, and Melbournians win the occasional US Major. Our State holds major surfing competitions, long distance road races ... you name it (even Gridiron), we have it, and follow it. Since the main point of this thread is soccer, I'd better confess my preferences: South Melbourne, followed by Liverpool, with Man United an honorable third. Red and white rule, ok? But I must admit an admiration for the Tottenham Hotspur team of yore, and for the days when Regis was king. PS: According to the stories I've read, American Gridiron Football would be better described as Harvard Rugby. When the IV League colleges got together last century to choose a code of football, all colleges - except one - chose Soccer. Harvard insisted on Rugby. (I take it they always were snobs. But they do sound funny.
Resource Consumer	posted 03-19-99 09:04 AM ET For someone who plays the Morganites it has to be one of those go ahead publicly-quoted teams. Millwall? (ducks incoming hail of planetbusters)
DerekM	posted 03-19-99 10:53 AM ET For sheer American dominance, you cannot beat basketball. Any other sport is either wildly popular in other countries (baseball, soccer, hockey) or hardly even seen in other countries (American football). The skill of the best players on American teams is truly amazing (as are their paychecks and their egos). Growing up in Massachusetts, the annual competition between the Celtics and the Lakers for the championship was almost a tradition, like drinking beer on St. Patrick's Day. (For those of you unfamiliar with the states, the Irish population around Boston is approximately the same as that of Ireland )
Ian the Mad	posted 03-19-99 10:59 AM ET Yeah Manchester! :random guy walks up behind Ian and taps him on the shoulder: Random guy: psst, hey buddy! You're American! You don't know what you're talking about! You're just brown nosing! Ian: Shut up! ummmm... just ignore him. RG: I heard that! You're just trying to score points with Brother Greg! Ian: Hey! I resemble... er, resent that remark! I'll have you know that I've seen "The Van" twice now. RG: Wonderful. A movie about a couple of Irish guys who run a fish and chips stand makes you an authority on soccer. Ian: Shut up!
Shining1	posted 03-20-99 10:05 PM ET Zoetrope: Gridiron (I use the name to irritate americian fans) sounds more like what you would get if you described rugby to a baseball fan . The play by play style (ball one!), long passes down field (Crack!), and people running angles to get by a group of defenders (like going around a baseball diamond). Personally, good on harvard for their choice. Pity what they actually did to the game, however...
DHE_X2	posted 03-21-99 06:13 PM ET ehh, I personally prefer hockey. It's like pro wrestling, on ice .
Brother Greg	posted 03-21-99 07:48 PM ET Yin: I would were I more fit, a sI used to be accounted quite a good soccer player in my youth. The then Australian coach once commented on me in a youth training camp that I could "put the ball on a pinhead", and that my mother should bring me to see him in 4 years or so (I was 12 at the time). Unfortunately, though I continued to play for another 14 years or so, I never gave it the dedication it deserved. So, to put it shortly, you'd kick my arse, I'm sure. And yeah, I've probably been hit in the head too many times by a ball. Would explain the baldness, anyway...
MikeH II	posted 03-22-99 05:28 AM ET Manchester United have the best squad. Arsenal have the best first team. Chelsea play the best football. Chelsea won the European Super Cup this season, beating Real Madrid. Does that make them the best team in Europe? Anyone got an opinion on KK's squad to meet the Poles on Saturday? Out of the squad he's picked I want to see: Shearer Owen Anderton LeSaux Sherwood Beckham Parlour Campbell Ferdinand Adams Seaman That's Anderton 'in the hole'. I hate David Batty with a passion but I can see Double K playing him instead of Sherwood. Also it's hard to take Super Becks off the right wing so I might swap him and Parlour. I just wish we had another decent left sided player so we could go back to 4-4-2, it suits English players so much better. We shall see.
Freddz	posted 03-22-99 01:17 PM ET tOFfGI, listen up! IFK G�teboooorg If we're talking hockey I'll go for Ottawa Senators.
Finngall	posted 03-22-99 09:50 PM ET The most concise description of Australian Rules Football I've seen is: A riot with goalposts. --Peace, Finngall, a bloody Yank who likes real football, Gridiron, and Aussie Rules, dammit! :-)