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Igor posted 06-24-99 10:13 AM ET
smac is too boring now, CtP is ****, civII is a history, MOO2 is not in shops. What should I try????????????
Aredhran posted 06-24-99 10:21 AM ET
There's a cool game of creative and/or non-sense writing at http://alpha.owo.com
Aredhran
Picker posted 06-24-99 10:21 AM ET
Don't buy anything, wait until civ II: test of time comes out. And late this year, early next year, you can get Shogun.
In the mean time you could download emulators and roms, and play old console games for free.
Resource Consumer posted 06-24-99 11:26 AM ET
Shogun looks to be awesome but you'd better go into stasis because I hear it won't be around 'til next year.
Eris posted 06-24-99 11:34 AM ET
You could try reading a book...
Eris (will be happy to recommend some)
Picker posted 06-24-99 11:36 AM ET
hence the emulator/rom thing, it will be a bit of a wait for shogun, but not too long, they are primarily finished the game, they just want to take a few months to tweak it.
Resource Consumer posted 06-24-99 12:11 PM ET
Picker,
Am I correct in interpreting your last post as that you will expect Shogun to be (almost) bug-free.
Gasp.... surely that doesn't happen any more
Picker posted 06-24-99 12:29 PM ET
Well, it just might. They were gonna ship it now, but too many strategy games are coming out now so they decided to wait until 2000, and they will spend the extra time tweaking it.
Krushala posted 06-24-99 06:15 PM ET
Has anyone played birth of the federation. I was considering buying it. Gamespsots review wasn't bad. I was just wondering if the interface is workable and about the difficulty.
Igor posted 06-25-99 07:38 AM ET
Is it possible to run 'Birth of Federation' in WinNT4.0?
laurens posted 06-25-99 07:52 AM ET
Possible retirement date for me: When Diablo II gets out
Igor posted 06-25-99 07:57 AM ET
About Diablo-type games. Darkstone is coming next month. Graphic is better (in movie at least).
JayPegg posted 06-25-99 08:47 AM ET
Don't kill me for this, but I would suggest trying some rts games if tb is too boring for you. Some great choices coming out-
c&c:Tiberian Sun
AOE2:Age of Kings
or you can stick with tb and get worms armageddon(?).
Igor posted 06-25-99 09:06 AM ET
Eris,
I read a lot. Also boring....
Picker posted 06-25-99 09:19 AM ET
Don't even say that, I will have to kill you and eat your bones. Reading is most entertaining, I read 2-3 400-900 page books a week(depending on how much I work).
Igor posted 06-25-99 09:51 AM ET
I read 400-600 pages book in 1-2 days. Earlier I read 5-7 books weekly, now only 2-3. Sci fiction, fantasy, as Tolkien (not sure in spelling, I'm not native speaker), serious autors, philosophers etc.
Can repeat: IT IS BORING NOW.
Eris posted 06-25-99 10:00 AM ET
"Can repeat: IT IS BORING NOW."
Then you are reading the wrong books. Or suffering an imagination deficiency...
Eris' recommendation of the week: The Vorkosigan books by Lois McMaster Bujold.
Eris (who doesn't WANT to wait until September for the new one, dammit)
Picker posted 06-25-99 10:18 AM ET
Igor: That's it your bones are breakfast. Seriously though tolkien was pretty good. But read the Sword of Truth series by terry goodkind.
laurens posted 06-25-99 10:28 AM ET
Books...
I would recommend "The Genesis Code", a rather, well, intriguing storyline
Aredhran posted 06-25-99 10:28 AM ET
You have to read "The Deathgate Cycle" by Weis & Hickman. Highly recommended.
Aredhran
Picker posted 06-25-99 10:30 AM ET
Yeah that was pretty good, not as good as the demon series by R.A. Salvatore though.
Igor posted 06-25-99 10:40 AM ET
Thanks for suggestions. Just found Terry Goodkind's book, think it's for 3-4 days.
BTW, what about GAMES????
Igor posted 06-25-99 10:44 AM ET
Yeah, I would recommend you some russian new authors, but litlle problem with language..
Rudebw0y posted 06-25-99 11:03 AM ET
Game Recommendation: Heroes of Might & Magic III (turn based fantasy game, not as strategically deep as SMAC, but very well-done).
Book Recommendations:
Rudy Rucker - "The Hacker and The Ants"
Umberto Eco - "The Name of the Rose"
Darkstar posted 06-25-99 02:49 PM ET
I just started playing Dungeon Keeper again a while back, to get ready for DKII which will be out soon. If you haven't tried it, I'd recommend you do so. Nice, wicked RTS game.
If you like to build - Rollercoaster Tycoon, Railroad Tycoon II (And 2nd Century - Its expansion) [Or even I, the original], and Simcity 3000.
For basic fun, stress release, and craziest stunts seen in a long time, Carmeggedon. (I picked this up in the Bargain bin. Great Death Race 2000 adaption.)
I have Birth Of the Feds. I'd say pass on it until you don't mind its costs. Its amusing if you are a trekkie/trekker. Old_Warrior42 tried it under NT 4 and says it won't run.
-Darkstar
JohnIII posted 06-25-99 02:54 PM ET
Brian Lara Cricket.
John III
OldWarrior_42 posted 06-25-99 03:03 PM ET
chagarra tried it under nt4 not I. He bought it and he was wondering if he could play it on his system and tried but failed. I had asked him why he had nt4 on his home system if he was retired from work and he said he used to do alot of his work at home...hence the nt4.He said he guesses he will have to wait till nt2000 to try again.
Eris posted 06-25-99 03:09 PM ET
Well, there's always Interactive Fiction... there's been some really good and puzzling stuff released in the last couple years, mostly Inform platform ones.
Eris (actually thinking of trying again with one that foiled her last year)
jimmytrick posted 06-25-99 03:12 PM ET
I noticed mm7 on the shelf yesterday. Does anyone have an opinion on it?
Bought BotF and put it on the shelf with about 8 other games I have gotten since I got SMAC. All still in shrink wrap. Can't stop SMACing long enough to load any of them.
jimmytrick posted 06-25-99 03:13 PM ET
Igor,
To answer your question Imp2 is probably your best bet. Brian Reynolds speaks highly of it.
Igor posted 06-25-99 04:11 PM ET
Thank everyone.
BTW, I'm finishing one of Rudy Rucker's book. Truth to tell, not impressed...
mirridor posted 06-25-99 04:13 PM ET
Well for good games to play my favorite is
Magic and Mayhem. (It has bumped everything
else down on my great game list.)
Birth of the Federation is a pretty good game. I am not a huge trek fan but it is still fun. There is alot of micromanagement
but then so does every other TBS.
MM& is way too fun. I have been addicted to it for a week now. The story is pretty fun.
As for the reading suggestions
David Eddings any series although the Belgariad is the best and the
Adept series by Piers Anthony.
mirridor posted 06-25-99 04:17 PM ET
Sorry for the double post. Imperialism 2 is a great game but it is much more difficult than the first one. Starting one's infrastructure is a pain and a half.
googlie posted 06-25-99 04:31 PM ET
If you enjoy sci-fi, try Peter Hamilton's "The Reality Dysfunction" (two volumes and "The Neutronium Alchymist" also two volumes. Conclusion is due to be published later this year.
Darkstar posted 06-25-99 04:42 PM ET
Apologies to Old Warrior and Chagarra. Brain hiccup on my part.
Damn Old Warrior! Your Obfuscate keeps making me lose track of you.
-Darkstar
OldWarrior_42 posted 06-25-99 05:41 PM ET
I used to be a ninja in another life. Hard to keep track of me.LMFAO
Rigil_Kentaurus posted 06-25-99 10:01 PM ET
Games: Heroes of Might and Magic 3, Baldur's Gate, Master of Orion 2 (you HAVE to find it), X-COM 1 or 3, emulators and roms.
Books: Tolkien of course, "Glory Season" or "Startide Rising", or other books, by David Brin, Robert Jordan perhaps, I haven't been reading too much lately...
chagarra posted 06-25-99 11:10 PM ET
Igor
Botf will definately NOT run on NT4 even with service pack 5.... (Advised by Microprose)
Try all four of Terry Goodkind's books, and if you like them you may also like,
Sara Douglass, Axis trilogy, and Wayfarer Redemption trilogy.
Robin Hobb, maybe not the Farseer trilogy, but for sure the Liveship traders.
Perhaps Janny Wurts and Raymond E Feist, empire series, which lead up to the Betrayal at Kronder game.
And of course Bujold
Eris
Sure you'r not Elena, you have that same snap as when answering Captain Naismith.
Valtyr posted 06-26-99 04:59 AM ET
[desperate]Please, Blizzard! Please let me have DiabloII! It's been over two years now... I want to click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and ruin a couple of mice like the last time. I'll do any thing! I'll even *gasp* play some Starcraft if you'll just make a teeny weeny demo just for me. PLEASE!!![/desperate]
Valtyr
lvl 49 Warrior
trippin daily posted 06-26-99 05:55 AM ET
I just want Blizzard to make a TBS game. They wouldn't **** it up like Firaxis did. Yes, Firaxis ****ed it up. Well actually Microprose did, for that is where SMAC came from, Civ 2. Thats all the damn game is, it is a Civ 2 clone. So if blizzard releases a TBS, I'll buy it, I'm more than likely not going to buy Firaxis next TBS, for I know it is just gonna be another Civ clone, and I'm tired of playing Civ. I want something new that will actally C H A L L E N G E me. As of now, SMAC can't challenge a drunken crack whore if that crack whore follows simple patterns (For those of you who find it challenging, **** the mental masterbation of building **** and go kill, you may actually win).
Trippin Daily
-Blizzard good, Firaxis bad-
Rackam posted 06-26-99 09:54 AM ET
Trippin - Have you ever played Conquest of the New World?
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Author	Topic: looking for new game
Igor	posted 06-24-99 10:13 AM ET smac is too boring now, CtP is ****, civII is a history, MOO2 is not in shops. What should I try????????????
Aredhran	posted 06-24-99 10:21 AM ET There's a cool game of creative and/or non-sense writing at http://alpha.owo.com Aredhran
Picker	posted 06-24-99 10:21 AM ET Don't buy anything, wait until civ II: test of time comes out. And late this year, early next year, you can get Shogun. In the mean time you could download emulators and roms, and play old console games for free.
Resource Consumer	posted 06-24-99 11:26 AM ET Shogun looks to be awesome but you'd better go into stasis because I hear it won't be around 'til next year.
Eris	posted 06-24-99 11:34 AM ET You could try reading a book... Eris (will be happy to recommend some)
Picker	posted 06-24-99 11:36 AM ET hence the emulator/rom thing, it will be a bit of a wait for shogun, but not too long, they are primarily finished the game, they just want to take a few months to tweak it.
Resource Consumer	posted 06-24-99 12:11 PM ET Picker, Am I correct in interpreting your last post as that you will expect Shogun to be (almost) bug-free. Gasp.... surely that doesn't happen any more
Picker	posted 06-24-99 12:29 PM ET Well, it just might. They were gonna ship it now, but too many strategy games are coming out now so they decided to wait until 2000, and they will spend the extra time tweaking it.
Krushala	posted 06-24-99 06:15 PM ET Has anyone played birth of the federation. I was considering buying it. Gamespsots review wasn't bad. I was just wondering if the interface is workable and about the difficulty.
Igor	posted 06-25-99 07:38 AM ET Is it possible to run 'Birth of Federation' in WinNT4.0?
laurens	posted 06-25-99 07:52 AM ET Possible retirement date for me: When Diablo II gets out
Igor	posted 06-25-99 07:57 AM ET About Diablo-type games. Darkstone is coming next month. Graphic is better (in movie at least).
JayPegg	posted 06-25-99 08:47 AM ET Don't kill me for this, but I would suggest trying some rts games if tb is too boring for you. Some great choices coming out- c&c:Tiberian Sun AOE2:Age of Kings or you can stick with tb and get worms armageddon(?).
Igor	posted 06-25-99 09:06 AM ET Eris, I read a lot. Also boring....
Picker	posted 06-25-99 09:19 AM ET Don't even say that, I will have to kill you and eat your bones. Reading is most entertaining, I read 2-3 400-900 page books a week(depending on how much I work).
Igor	posted 06-25-99 09:51 AM ET I read 400-600 pages book in 1-2 days. Earlier I read 5-7 books weekly, now only 2-3. Sci fiction, fantasy, as Tolkien (not sure in spelling, I'm not native speaker), serious autors, philosophers etc. Can repeat: IT IS BORING NOW.
Eris	posted 06-25-99 10:00 AM ET "Can repeat: IT IS BORING NOW." Then you are reading the wrong books. Or suffering an imagination deficiency... Eris' recommendation of the week: The Vorkosigan books by Lois McMaster Bujold. Eris (who doesn't WANT to wait until September for the new one, dammit)
Picker	posted 06-25-99 10:18 AM ET Igor: That's it your bones are breakfast. Seriously though tolkien was pretty good. But read the Sword of Truth series by terry goodkind.
laurens	posted 06-25-99 10:28 AM ET Books... I would recommend "The Genesis Code", a rather, well, intriguing storyline
Aredhran	posted 06-25-99 10:28 AM ET You have to read "The Deathgate Cycle" by Weis & Hickman. Highly recommended. Aredhran
Picker	posted 06-25-99 10:30 AM ET Yeah that was pretty good, not as good as the demon series by R.A. Salvatore though.
Igor	posted 06-25-99 10:40 AM ET Thanks for suggestions. Just found Terry Goodkind's book, think it's for 3-4 days. BTW, what about GAMES????
Igor	posted 06-25-99 10:44 AM ET Yeah, I would recommend you some russian new authors, but litlle problem with language..
Rudebw0y	posted 06-25-99 11:03 AM ET Game Recommendation: Heroes of Might & Magic III (turn based fantasy game, not as strategically deep as SMAC, but very well-done). Book Recommendations: Rudy Rucker - "The Hacker and The Ants" Umberto Eco - "The Name of the Rose"
Darkstar	posted 06-25-99 02:49 PM ET I just started playing Dungeon Keeper again a while back, to get ready for DKII which will be out soon. If you haven't tried it, I'd recommend you do so. Nice, wicked RTS game. If you like to build - Rollercoaster Tycoon, Railroad Tycoon II (And 2nd Century - Its expansion) [Or even I, the original], and Simcity 3000. For basic fun, stress release, and craziest stunts seen in a long time, Carmeggedon. (I picked this up in the Bargain bin. Great Death Race 2000 adaption.) I have Birth Of the Feds. I'd say pass on it until you don't mind its costs. Its amusing if you are a trekkie/trekker. Old_Warrior42 tried it under NT 4 and says it won't run. -Darkstar
JohnIII	posted 06-25-99 02:54 PM ET Brian Lara Cricket. John III
OldWarrior_42	posted 06-25-99 03:03 PM ET chagarra tried it under nt4 not I. He bought it and he was wondering if he could play it on his system and tried but failed. I had asked him why he had nt4 on his home system if he was retired from work and he said he used to do alot of his work at home...hence the nt4.He said he guesses he will have to wait till nt2000 to try again.
Eris	posted 06-25-99 03:09 PM ET Well, there's always Interactive Fiction... there's been some really good and puzzling stuff released in the last couple years, mostly Inform platform ones. Eris (actually thinking of trying again with one that foiled her last year)
jimmytrick	posted 06-25-99 03:12 PM ET I noticed mm7 on the shelf yesterday. Does anyone have an opinion on it? Bought BotF and put it on the shelf with about 8 other games I have gotten since I got SMAC. All still in shrink wrap. Can't stop SMACing long enough to load any of them.
jimmytrick	posted 06-25-99 03:13 PM ET Igor, To answer your question Imp2 is probably your best bet. Brian Reynolds speaks highly of it.
Igor	posted 06-25-99 04:11 PM ET Thank everyone. BTW, I'm finishing one of Rudy Rucker's book. Truth to tell, not impressed...
mirridor	posted 06-25-99 04:13 PM ET Well for good games to play my favorite is Magic and Mayhem. (It has bumped everything else down on my great game list.) Birth of the Federation is a pretty good game. I am not a huge trek fan but it is still fun. There is alot of micromanagement but then so does every other TBS. MM& is way too fun. I have been addicted to it for a week now. The story is pretty fun. As for the reading suggestions David Eddings any series although the Belgariad is the best and the Adept series by Piers Anthony.
mirridor	posted 06-25-99 04:17 PM ET Sorry for the double post. Imperialism 2 is a great game but it is much more difficult than the first one. Starting one's infrastructure is a pain and a half.
googlie	posted 06-25-99 04:31 PM ET If you enjoy sci-fi, try Peter Hamilton's "The Reality Dysfunction" (two volumes and "The Neutronium Alchymist" also two volumes. Conclusion is due to be published later this year.
Darkstar	posted 06-25-99 04:42 PM ET Apologies to Old Warrior and Chagarra. Brain hiccup on my part. Damn Old Warrior! Your Obfuscate keeps making me lose track of you. -Darkstar
OldWarrior_42	posted 06-25-99 05:41 PM ET I used to be a ninja in another life. Hard to keep track of me.LMFAO
Rigil_Kentaurus	posted 06-25-99 10:01 PM ET Games: Heroes of Might and Magic 3, Baldur's Gate, Master of Orion 2 (you HAVE to find it), X-COM 1 or 3, emulators and roms. Books: Tolkien of course, "Glory Season" or "Startide Rising", or other books, by David Brin, Robert Jordan perhaps, I haven't been reading too much lately...
chagarra	posted 06-25-99 11:10 PM ET Igor Botf will definately NOT run on NT4 even with service pack 5.... (Advised by Microprose) Try all four of Terry Goodkind's books, and if you like them you may also like, Sara Douglass, Axis trilogy, and Wayfarer Redemption trilogy. Robin Hobb, maybe not the Farseer trilogy, but for sure the Liveship traders. Perhaps Janny Wurts and Raymond E Feist, empire series, which lead up to the Betrayal at Kronder game. And of course Bujold Eris Sure you'r not Elena, you have that same snap as when answering Captain Naismith.
Valtyr	posted 06-26-99 04:59 AM ET [desperate]Please, Blizzard! Please let me have DiabloII! It's been over two years now... I want to click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and click and ruin a couple of mice like the last time. I'll do any thing! I'll even gasp play some Starcraft if you'll just make a teeny weeny demo just for me. PLEASE!!![/desperate] Valtyr lvl 49 Warrior
trippin daily	posted 06-26-99 05:55 AM ET I just want Blizzard to make a TBS game. They wouldn't ** it up like Firaxis did. Yes, Firaxis ed it up. Well actually Microprose did, for that is where SMAC came from, Civ 2. Thats all the damn game is, it is a Civ 2 clone. So if blizzard releases a TBS, I'll buy it, I'm more than likely not going to buy Firaxis next TBS, for I know it is just gonna be another Civ clone, and I'm tired of playing Civ. I want something new that will actally C H A L L E N G E me. As of now, SMAC can't challenge a drunken crack whore if that crack whore follows simple patterns (For those of you who find it challenging, the mental masterbation of building ** and go kill, you may actually win). Trippin Daily -Blizzard good, Firaxis bad-
Rackam	posted 06-26-99 09:54 AM ET Trippin - Have you ever played Conquest of the New World?