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Tgzo posted 05-26-99 10:32 PM ET
My all time favourite real-time strategy game is Starcraft by far!
Best TBS is got to be either SMAC or Civ2 for
How about yours?
whirlwind13 posted 05-26-99 10:48 PM ET
all I know is AoE blows!
Koshko posted 05-26-99 11:04 PM ET
I'm not big on real-time, but I liked Lands of Lore and Betrayal at Krondor.
For the Trun-Based, its got to be SMAC, Warlords3-DLR, or for the nostalgic Master of Magic.
HolyWarrior posted 05-26-99 11:29 PM ET
Turn-based: SMAC, Civ2
Real-time: There is none, because real-time is an ABOMINATION.
HolyWarrior posted 05-26-99 11:30 PM ET
Well, there was Might & Magic 6, which was a blend of turn-base and real-time...
Alkis posted 05-26-99 11:49 PM ET
Turn-based: The Master of Orion series. Also Heroes of Might & Magic but the original one. Heroes2 was nice but Heroes3 bad IMHO.
Real-time: AoE and maybe Xcom Apoc.(although this was not a pure RTS).
Koshko posted 05-27-99 12:51 AM ET
Yes, M&MVI was a good combo turn-based/real-time game. More games should have that elective style.
MoSe posted 05-27-99 07:45 AM ET
Well, if I can draw a line to distinguish "favourite" from "best", I'd say my favourite (TBS) was Master of Magic. (thanx Koshko...)
MikeH II posted 05-27-99 07:47 AM ET
Turn based: SMAC
RTS: Red Alert (I haven't played StarCraft or TA)
OldWarrior_42 posted 05-27-99 08:19 AM ET
TBS..SMAC and Civil War Generals 1&2
RTS..AoE,Total Annihilation and Sid Meier's Gettysburgh
chagarra posted 05-27-99 11:43 AM ET
On a 10G hard drive I only have 3 games.
First the Original ( I believe ) TBG ....tada .... roll of drums....EMPIRE....
I have the deluxe or second version and it still works fine on NT4
Second .....CIVII....
Finally......SMAC.... ( I couldnt find stars.)
and now that I am used to the sound the sound I have no other problems problems
sandals posted 05-27-99 11:43 AM ET
RTS: Total Annihilation
TBS: SMAC
Picker posted 05-27-99 11:54 AM ET
What about the new strategy game coming out called shogun?
Its supposed to have real time battles and turn based ruling. And it looks awesome!
Skull posted 05-27-99 09:01 PM ET
I think "Bandit Kings of Ancient China" would have to be my favorite of all time. But Col and Civ got just as much play, almost. Never been much of a RTS player but liked Warcraft and Starcraft allright.
I forgot about Empire and the new sensation(can you tell I like smac)Alpha Centauri. Damn then there is Master of Magic and Orion. Damn too many good ones to pick one favorite.
Evk posted 05-28-99 12:10 AM ET
Turn-based: Colonization. Ooogh. I love that game. DEWWWWWWTTTT dew dew dew dew dew da DEEWTT dew dew da dew dew dewt da DEWWWWWWWWw daddaaaaada da da da da DEWwwwww da dee da DDEWWWWWWWww...
Darkstar posted 05-28-99 03:57 AM ET
RTS ? Er... its been so long since I was addicted to one of them... Liked Heizen Blitz on Sega, and Platoon Leader on Atari...
TBS ? Empire ( I have an honest to goodness C port of the UNIX code ), Empire Deluxe, MOM and Civ. SMAC is only good.
-Darkstar
Dutch Boy posted 05-28-99 07:24 AM ET
Good turn-based games :
Operational art of war (I love that game, does anybody here play it???)
col, civ series, moo series, mom, RR Tycoon
RTS SUCKS!!!!!! How can you call a game where the guy who builds the most tanks "strategy????????" C&C Starcraft, Warcraft etc.
Dutch Boy posted 05-28-99 07:37 AM ET
that should read "the guy who builds the most tanks wins
Valtyr posted 05-28-99 06:04 PM ET
TBS: Civ2, Colonization (just love that music, Evk )
RTS: The Settlers I!!!! Not exactly "strategy", but lots of building and HUGE maps. AI sucks big time, but it was my first game, so it holds a special place in my heart .
Sparky posted 05-28-99 06:12 PM ET
Turn-based:
1. Civ 2
2. SMAC (A close call. Might soon dethrone Civ 2)
Real Time:
1. Total Annihilation
2. Command and Conquer: Red Alert
99999999999999. Warcraft 2 (Talk about an overrated game)
laurens posted 05-28-99 08:17 PM ET
Real-timed: Total Annihilation
Turn-based: SMAC
jimmytrick posted 05-28-99 08:51 PM ET
TBS: "Screwing Stella" This was a game I played in high school with a couple of my buddies. The strategy was getting her boyfriend drunk so that we could take turns screwing Stella.
RTS: see above. She was a cheerleader and it was a real good time strategy game!
KrazyJ posted 05-28-99 09:41 PM ET
The Orignal X-Com Kicked ass. It's the best TBS. as for RTS? I have to go with <censored> on this one, Herzogzwai for the Sega was a pretty rad game.
Dim Cat posted 05-29-99 12:00 AM ET
TBS: SMAC, SMAC, SMAC, Civ II... alhough HOMM2 and 3 are cool too...
RTS: Somebody earlier called RR Tycoon II a TBS, but I think it's an RTS, isn't it?
PrinceBimz posted 05-29-99 01:48 AM ET
Well, for TBS it is either SMAC, CTP, or Heroes of Might & Magic III. For RTS it has to be Total Annihilation or Starcraft.
Zardoz posted 05-29-99 01:43 PM ET
TBS... X-Com and SMAC
RTS... Total Annihilation
LoD posted 05-29-99 01:52 PM ET
TBS: SMAC
RTS: Don't laugh: Dune 2. And I *mean* Dune 2, not Dune 2000.
JohnIII posted 05-29-99 01:56 PM ET
TBS: Civ2
RTS: TA
Combination: Champ Man
John III
Mcerion posted 05-29-99 05:18 PM ET
TBS: Civ2, SMAC, Imperium Galactica
RTS: Myth, Myth 2 & Sid's Gettysburg
Darkstar posted 05-30-99 04:35 AM ET
KrazyJ - Thanks! I could NEVER get that game's name right. Herzogzwai rocked big time. Wanted more maps as battlefields. XCom was pretty cool, but I got tired off ALL the ground battles from time to time. Been nice to have been able to automate certain of the common recovery ops and what not. And it's combo game of RTS/TBS... so you could put it in anywhere.
Railroad Tycoon and RRTII are definately RTS. Pause or go/go faster though like SimCity...
Valtyr - Settlers I (AKA Serf City) was a lot of fun. I actually like it better than Settlers III. Got a big kick watching the serfs carry things around between the flags. Still run it from time to time. The only problem with it under 95/98 is you can't save the game.
-Darkstar
Dutch Boy posted 05-31-99 07:48 PM ET
Hold on stop the presses !!!!!
I just realized that there is a decent RTS Game !!!!!!
Dune was a really decent game !!!!!
(That's Dune 1, people you've probably been around quite a long time if you've played this)
Rackam posted 05-31-99 08:30 PM ET
RTS - Railroad Tycoon 1 and Simcity 2000
TBS - Civ 2, Colonization (anyone know if there is a sequel planned?) and Conquest of the New World
~Rackam
Veracitas posted 05-31-99 08:53 PM ET
Favourite:
Turn Based: Civilisation II
Real Time: Warcraft II
Somehow, I like the older games better, even though the newer ones were more refined.
Univarse9 posted 05-31-99 10:41 PM ET
Turn-based: Alpha Centauri, Warhammer 40'000: Chaos Gate
Real Time: Starcraft, Starcraft: Brood War
DeVore posted 06-01-99 06:00 AM ET
Real time strategy: Megalomania takes first place, warcraft2 was decent but I never bothered to play any of the never clones.
Real time simulation: Railroad Tycoon (Original).
Turn based strategy : Romance of the 3 Kingdoms (predecesor to Bandit kings of China)
Civ 1 & Orion 1 and of course SMAC.
Steel Panthers 1(the best) & 2.
I recently got Operational Art of War which looks great but I haven't had the time to really explore it yet (Damn SMAC is keeping me .

/Dev
OldWarrior_42 posted 06-01-99 08:35 AM ET
DeVore....Romance of the Three Kingdoms you mentioned..was that for the computer? I played the first one on 8 bit nintendo and r2 on sega. Would love to play it on computer...man that was a cool game
DeVore posted 06-01-99 10:33 AM ET
OldWarrior: Nope it was for the Amiga and I've been searching up and down for a PC version, so far without any luck
/Dev
Atahualpa posted 06-01-99 12:52 PM ET
Turnbased: Sidi's Civilization I and of course Civilization II, Civilization:Call To Power, MoO2 and Colonization
Realtime: Starcraft, SMG, C&C (the Original), Baldur's Gate (does this belong here?), Populus III, Commandos: Behind the enemy lines
Mixed: XCom:Terror from the Deep!
And the most favourite game: DIABLO! Cant wait for DiabloII!
ATa
PaulBot posted 06-01-99 04:10 PM ET
TBS: SMAC (the only TBS I've ever played is SMAC, so my vote's kinda worthless)
RTS: Total Annihilation with Core Contingency, Battle Tactics, and TAUIP!!! I must give StarCraft a close second, though.
P.S. What's AoE??
PaulBot posted 06-01-99 04:11 PM ET
DUH!! I got it right as I clicked the Submit button: Age of Empires.
Klug posted 06-02-99 08:23 PM ET
Favorite TBS: Moo2
VERY close 2nd: SMAC
Honorable Mention: Railroad Tycoon
Note: NOrmally I'm apathetic towards RT based games.
Favorite RTS: Diablo
Alternate Favorite RTS (if Diablo doesn't count): Warcraft 2.
DilithiumDad posted 06-02-99 08:44 PM ET
Turn-based: SMAC and Deadlock II (Accolade)
Real-time: Outpost 2 and Caesar 3(both Sierra)
Never played Civ.
Nell_Smith posted 06-02-99 09:38 PM ET
TBS: Civ II and SMAC... can't decide which
RTS: X-Com Apocalypse and Caesar III... also can't decide which!
Nell... the decisive one
seth5454 posted 06-02-99 09:42 PM ET
TBS: SMAC and i have a feeling im going to get chewed out for this one but Deadlock the first one.
RTS: Caesar is pretty good.
Chronomog posted 06-02-99 09:58 PM ET
Real time strategy TA
ok starcraft sucks people im sorry but 6 new units in a 30 dollar expansion pack
Best turn based
Alpha Centauri
Excellent game Reynolds
SmartFart posted 06-03-99 03:30 PM ET
tbs: tic-tac-toe
rts: pac-man
LoD posted 06-03-99 04:53 PM ET
Dutch Boy: AFAIR, Dune wasn't an RTS in its strict sanse - it was a adventure/strategy hybrid. That's why Dune 2 is recognized as the first RTS.
El Presidente posted 06-03-99 05:31 PM ET

Mcerion posted 05-29-99 05:18 PM ET
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TBS: Civ2, SMAC, Imperium Galactica
RTS: Myth, Myth 2 & Sid's Gettysburg
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Mcerion, how was Imperium Galactica a turn based game? As I recall, it was entirely RTS (but my memory of ground combat is a but fuzzy. That part may have been TB)
My favorite TBS games: Outpost, X-com games
My favorite RTS games: Imperium Galactica, Transport Tycoon (TT has Railroad Tycoon and all the other transport games beat hands down)
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned Outpost. It was a good game if you had automatic trucking on, and the research aspect was one of the most interesting (if poorly executed) I've ever seen. I know I'm not alone on this one.
Possibility posted 06-03-99 06:50 PM ET
If were talking multiplayer, then AoE + Rise of Rome expansion is the God of all games. Ok, granted the single player sucks, but who in the hell these days actually plays single players. Multiplayer is where all the fun is, and AoE is the most fun. Go play it on the zone, there is about 3000 people for you to play it with there at any one time (not like 1 or 2 if your lucky on Alpha HQ).

Possibility
The God of AoE Death Match!
Provost Harrison posted 06-04-99 09:14 PM ET
I still play single player. Living in the UK means that all phonecalls to the internet cost, and for a long period of time, are quite expensive.
Mcerion posted 06-05-99 01:12 AM ET
LOL, you are right El Presidente. It's been so long since I played it. I forgot it was real time. It just seemed like a TBS when I remembered it. Nell: I just picked up X-Com: Apocalypse for .99� at a EB clearance sale. That game is excellent. Didn't anybody here like the Myth games? I think they are great especially in multiplayer. The single player story is pretty good too.
Xuenay posted 06-05-99 05:16 AM ET
RTS: Total Annihilation
TBS: SMAC, HOMM3 or Civ2. Difficult to choose.
El Presidente posted 06-06-99 01:39 AM ET
Has anyone mentioned Emperor of the Fading Suns? It's an ultra-complex version of civ with spaceships and a REALLY detailed background. I personally thought it was just as good as civ, but the dated graphics and annoying interface made many gamers pass it up. I recommend it highly.
Shining1 posted 06-07-99 12:09 AM ET
RTS: Virtually anything - this is my favourite realm. StarcraftBW ranks supreme, but only because of the negatives in Total AnnihiliationCC (one dimensional units, no personality, no story). The Krogoths and rapid fire plasma guns make up for it A LOT though, and I like the idea of having only 2 sides (ARM are a pack of soft boys.)
However, NOTHING, in any other game, matches the sheer fun and personality of Warcraft. I love this game.
TBS: Currently HOMM3, since SMAC is unstable on my current setup and CivII is old and irritating (SMAC's total cop out combat system and the lack of any decent combat graphics also irritate me - along with people who say those things don't matter). Roll on SMACX, which hopefully will address those issues (if they want me to buy it, anyway...)
FPS: Half-life - incredible game.
HolyWarrior posted 06-07-99 02:32 AM ET
El Presidente:
I had heard about Fading Suns, but I thought it was advertised as an RPG? Anyway, I have never seen it in my area.
And you mentioned Outpost as a great game? I heard it was buggier than an ant farm. Besides, it's real-time, so it's crap.
I HATE real-time
Delgath posted 06-07-99 02:47 AM ET
Dune one was good but strategy? I'd call it RP.
RTS: The Ancient Art of War. (Eighties flashback), Pirates, Led Wars, Dune 2, Battle of Britain on the Commodore 64 laptop
TBS: SMAC!!!!! X-Com 2 (I think it was called terror of the deep or something, just because I loved the drills)
Delgath. UoP.
Where do you want to colonize today?
El Presidente posted 06-07-99 05:45 AM ET
El Presidente: The original release of Outpost was the buggiest game I've ever seen, but then Sierra released "version 1.5" in which many bugs were fixed and it became a good game. It is also completly turn based. Outpost 2 was the real-time one, but I've never played it because real-time sucks, so I can't comment on it.
Also, Emporer of the Fading Suns is based on the Fading Suns pen and pencil RPG, which I am also quite fond of. It didn't sell very well, however, so you probably won't find it in local stores. It is avaliable from some on-line stores fairly cheap, though.
El Presidente posted 06-07-99 05:48 AM ET
Oops. The above post is directed towards HolyWarrior, not me.
Jay posted 06-07-99 06:58 AM ET
TBS: SMAC, Conquest of the New World, Colonization, Civ 1, and the list goes on...
RTS: Settlers II, Myth 2, Starcraft, Dark Reign...
And Atahualpa, if you Can't Wait Any Longer for Diablo II, you should join CWAL.
threeover posted 06-07-99 12:33 PM ET
dune2, enough said
JarJarStinx posted 06-10-99 08:13 AM ET
As primitive as they seem now, I still like the turn-based games from the late 80's - early 90's. Games like SSI's AD&D series (especially Gold Box series), Wasteland, Dragon Wars, Bards Tale III, Might & Magic II & III. These games are still playable.
The best games have always been Sid Meier's : Pirates, Railroad Tycoon, Civ I & II, and now SMAC.
ZRand007 posted 06-10-99 03:59 PM ET
TBS: 3)People's General
2)Civ II MP Gold
1)SMAC
RTS: 3)Red Alert
2)Total Annihilation
1)Jane's Fleet Command
A word on Starcraft:
I beat the game within 12 hours of its purchase. Created many, many custom games, beat 99% of them. (the 1% was my first game or two)Went to EB and bought Brood War. Complete waste of money, beat that in 5 hours. Only six new units??? Laughable. No new AI, which was sorely needed. (SC had no better AI than Warcraft II) I'm sorry, but SC and BW rate as probably my least favorite RTS games. And what's wrong with Pax Imperia??? It's not great... the wormhole concept sucked, the diplomacy sucked, and the AI sucked, but those battles were AWESOME for a game made by such a then-small company. I'm waiting for Pax III, with 3D acceleration, intelligent AI, and more options.
One RTS I want bad: Tiberian Sun. Yeah Baby!
-007
The Living Daylights
BrianB posted 06-10-99 04:14 PM ET

TBS
#1) MOO2---(Awesome for when it came out!!)
#2) SMAC---(Would be #1 if not for all the bugs)
RTS
#1) C&C (almost lost my job over it)
#2) Warcraft (Grunts make the best sounds)
ummmm OK!
Oldies but goodies are always the best!
Zardoz posted 06-10-99 07:08 PM ET
Let me add SMG to my RTS selection. I was looking for a game to play to switch off of SMAC for a while to rest my eyes. It was about 8:00 PM, decided to fight a few small battles and get to bed at a reasonable time for once. Just a few more turns later it is 1:30 AM and I need to be up at 5:30 to get to work at 7:00, another night with 4 hours of sleep. Firaxis is really screwing up my sleep patterns Keep up the good work
bomberman posted 06-11-99 02:11 AM ET
Favorite turn based game(s):Jagged AllianceL Deadly Games(eagerly awaiting JA2), SMAC, Civ2
Favorite RTS: Starcraft
This definitlely my favorite rts game, no other one has stayed on my hd longer, and I still play it almost as often now as I did when I first got it. It had a good single player storyline, and I am still learning new strategies in multiplayer. (SMAC was one of the first games to actually get me to stop playing SC/Brood War for awhile, now I play both )
bomberman
Rigil_Kentaurus posted 06-11-99 07:01 AM ET
RTS: I'm not a big RTS fan, but I'd have to say either the "original" Dune 2 or Warcraft 2.
TBS: Cursed be the makers of SMAC, for they have dragged the genre down in the mud. Okay it's not THAT bad...
The best of all time is definately Master of Orion 2 (it can still be bought in the Microprose online store). Most of you have probably never played it, but THAT is one hell of a game. If SMAC was half the game MOO2 was and still had the Sid Meier name it would probably have been called the best game ever (MOO2 was not made by Sid). MOO2 featured pretty good graphics, were the first to introduce some of the things in SMAC, and had so many novel ideas and great stuff that it just ROCKED like Elvis Presley.
Valtyr posted 06-11-99 11:59 PM ET
"...it just ROCKED like Elvis Presley."
I.e. not at all?
Horgawitz posted 06-13-99 07:53 PM ET
The best turn based stragey game is X-com UFO defence
The best Real time game is, by far Myth: The Fallen Lords
kaetux posted 06-17-99 02:59 AM ET
RTS: Outpost 2, Total Annihilation, Starcraft (just a little bit), Battlezone, Myth II, and Caesar III
TBS: Alpha Centauri, Civilization 2, and Worms (dammit, why does everyone always forget worms!!)
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Author	Topic: Poll: What is your favourite turn-based and real-time strategy game?
Tgzo	posted 05-26-99 10:32 PM ET My all time favourite real-time strategy game is Starcraft by far! Best TBS is got to be either SMAC or Civ2 for How about yours?
whirlwind13	posted 05-26-99 10:48 PM ET all I know is AoE blows!
Koshko	posted 05-26-99 11:04 PM ET I'm not big on real-time, but I liked Lands of Lore and Betrayal at Krondor. For the Trun-Based, its got to be SMAC, Warlords3-DLR, or for the nostalgic Master of Magic.
HolyWarrior	posted 05-26-99 11:29 PM ET Turn-based: SMAC, Civ2 Real-time: There is none, because real-time is an ABOMINATION.
HolyWarrior	posted 05-26-99 11:30 PM ET Well, there was Might & Magic 6, which was a blend of turn-base and real-time...
Alkis	posted 05-26-99 11:49 PM ET Turn-based: The Master of Orion series. Also Heroes of Might & Magic but the original one. Heroes2 was nice but Heroes3 bad IMHO. Real-time: AoE and maybe Xcom Apoc.(although this was not a pure RTS).
Koshko	posted 05-27-99 12:51 AM ET Yes, M&MVI was a good combo turn-based/real-time game. More games should have that elective style.
MoSe	posted 05-27-99 07:45 AM ET Well, if I can draw a line to distinguish "favourite" from "best", I'd say my favourite (TBS) was Master of Magic. (thanx Koshko...)
MikeH II	posted 05-27-99 07:47 AM ET Turn based: SMAC RTS: Red Alert (I haven't played StarCraft or TA)
OldWarrior_42	posted 05-27-99 08:19 AM ET TBS..SMAC and Civil War Generals 1&2 RTS..AoE,Total Annihilation and Sid Meier's Gettysburgh
chagarra	posted 05-27-99 11:43 AM ET On a 10G hard drive I only have 3 games. First the Original ( I believe ) TBG ....tada .... roll of drums....EMPIRE.... I have the deluxe or second version and it still works fine on NT4 Second .....CIVII.... Finally......SMAC.... ( I couldnt find stars.) and now that I am used to the sound the sound I have no other problems problems
sandals	posted 05-27-99 11:43 AM ET RTS: Total Annihilation TBS: SMAC
Picker	posted 05-27-99 11:54 AM ET What about the new strategy game coming out called shogun? Its supposed to have real time battles and turn based ruling. And it looks awesome!
Skull	posted 05-27-99 09:01 PM ET I think "Bandit Kings of Ancient China" would have to be my favorite of all time. But Col and Civ got just as much play, almost. Never been much of a RTS player but liked Warcraft and Starcraft allright. I forgot about Empire and the new sensation(can you tell I like smac)Alpha Centauri. Damn then there is Master of Magic and Orion. Damn too many good ones to pick one favorite.
Evk	posted 05-28-99 12:10 AM ET Turn-based: Colonization. Ooogh. I love that game. DEWWWWWWTTTT dew dew dew dew dew da DEEWTT dew dew da dew dew dewt da DEWWWWWWWWw daddaaaaada da da da da DEWwwwww da dee da DDEWWWWWWWww...
Darkstar	posted 05-28-99 03:57 AM ET RTS ? Er... its been so long since I was addicted to one of them... Liked Heizen Blitz on Sega, and Platoon Leader on Atari... TBS ? Empire ( I have an honest to goodness C port of the UNIX code ), Empire Deluxe, MOM and Civ. SMAC is only good. -Darkstar
Dutch Boy	posted 05-28-99 07:24 AM ET Good turn-based games : Operational art of war (I love that game, does anybody here play it???) col, civ series, moo series, mom, RR Tycoon RTS SUCKS!!!!!! How can you call a game where the guy who builds the most tanks "strategy????????" C&C Starcraft, Warcraft etc.
Dutch Boy	posted 05-28-99 07:37 AM ET that should read "the guy who builds the most tanks wins
Valtyr	posted 05-28-99 06:04 PM ET TBS: Civ2, Colonization (just love that music, Evk ) RTS: The Settlers I!!!! Not exactly "strategy", but lots of building and HUGE maps. AI sucks big time, but it was my first game, so it holds a special place in my heart .
Sparky	posted 05-28-99 06:12 PM ET Turn-based: 1. Civ 2 2. SMAC (A close call. Might soon dethrone Civ 2) Real Time: 1. Total Annihilation 2. Command and Conquer: Red Alert 99999999999999. Warcraft 2 (Talk about an overrated game)
laurens	posted 05-28-99 08:17 PM ET Real-timed: Total Annihilation Turn-based: SMAC
jimmytrick	posted 05-28-99 08:51 PM ET TBS: "Screwing Stella" This was a game I played in high school with a couple of my buddies. The strategy was getting her boyfriend drunk so that we could take turns screwing Stella. RTS: see above. She was a cheerleader and it was a real good time strategy game!
KrazyJ	posted 05-28-99 09:41 PM ET The Orignal X-Com Kicked ass. It's the best TBS. as for RTS? I have to go with <censored> on this one, Herzogzwai for the Sega was a pretty rad game.
Dim Cat	posted 05-29-99 12:00 AM ET TBS: SMAC, SMAC, SMAC, Civ II... alhough HOMM2 and 3 are cool too... RTS: Somebody earlier called RR Tycoon II a TBS, but I think it's an RTS, isn't it?
PrinceBimz	posted 05-29-99 01:48 AM ET Well, for TBS it is either SMAC, CTP, or Heroes of Might & Magic III. For RTS it has to be Total Annihilation or Starcraft.
Zardoz	posted 05-29-99 01:43 PM ET TBS... X-Com and SMAC RTS... Total Annihilation
LoD	posted 05-29-99 01:52 PM ET TBS: SMAC RTS: Don't laugh: Dune 2. And I mean Dune 2, not Dune 2000.
JohnIII	posted 05-29-99 01:56 PM ET TBS: Civ2 RTS: TA Combination: Champ Man John III
Mcerion	posted 05-29-99 05:18 PM ET TBS: Civ2, SMAC, Imperium Galactica RTS: Myth, Myth 2 & Sid's Gettysburg
Darkstar	posted 05-30-99 04:35 AM ET KrazyJ - Thanks! I could NEVER get that game's name right. Herzogzwai rocked big time. Wanted more maps as battlefields. XCom was pretty cool, but I got tired off ALL the ground battles from time to time. Been nice to have been able to automate certain of the common recovery ops and what not. And it's combo game of RTS/TBS... so you could put it in anywhere. Railroad Tycoon and RRTII are definately RTS. Pause or go/go faster though like SimCity... Valtyr - Settlers I (AKA Serf City) was a lot of fun. I actually like it better than Settlers III. Got a big kick watching the serfs carry things around between the flags. Still run it from time to time. The only problem with it under 95/98 is you can't save the game. -Darkstar
Dutch Boy	posted 05-31-99 07:48 PM ET Hold on stop the presses !!!!! I just realized that there is a decent RTS Game !!!!!! Dune was a really decent game !!!!! (That's Dune 1, people you've probably been around quite a long time if you've played this)
Rackam	posted 05-31-99 08:30 PM ET RTS - Railroad Tycoon 1 and Simcity 2000 TBS - Civ 2, Colonization (anyone know if there is a sequel planned?) and Conquest of the New World ~Rackam
Veracitas	posted 05-31-99 08:53 PM ET Favourite: Turn Based: Civilisation II Real Time: Warcraft II Somehow, I like the older games better, even though the newer ones were more refined.
Univarse9	posted 05-31-99 10:41 PM ET Turn-based: Alpha Centauri, Warhammer 40'000: Chaos Gate Real Time: Starcraft, Starcraft: Brood War
DeVore	posted 06-01-99 06:00 AM ET Real time strategy: Megalomania takes first place, warcraft2 was decent but I never bothered to play any of the never clones. Real time simulation: Railroad Tycoon (Original). Turn based strategy : Romance of the 3 Kingdoms (predecesor to Bandit kings of China) Civ 1 & Orion 1 and of course SMAC. Steel Panthers 1(the best) & 2. I recently got Operational Art of War which looks great but I haven't had the time to really explore it yet (Damn SMAC is keeping me . /Dev
OldWarrior_42	posted 06-01-99 08:35 AM ET DeVore....Romance of the Three Kingdoms you mentioned..was that for the computer? I played the first one on 8 bit nintendo and r2 on sega. Would love to play it on computer...man that was a cool game
DeVore	posted 06-01-99 10:33 AM ET OldWarrior: Nope it was for the Amiga and I've been searching up and down for a PC version, so far without any luck /Dev
Atahualpa	posted 06-01-99 12:52 PM ET Turnbased: Sidi's Civilization I and of course Civilization II, Civilization:Call To Power, MoO2 and Colonization Realtime: Starcraft, SMG, C&C (the Original), Baldur's Gate (does this belong here?), Populus III, Commandos: Behind the enemy lines Mixed: XCom:Terror from the Deep! And the most favourite game: DIABLO! Cant wait for DiabloII! ATa
PaulBot	posted 06-01-99 04:10 PM ET TBS: SMAC (the only TBS I've ever played is SMAC, so my vote's kinda worthless) RTS: Total Annihilation with Core Contingency, Battle Tactics, and TAUIP!!! I must give StarCraft a close second, though. P.S. What's AoE??
PaulBot	posted 06-01-99 04:11 PM ET DUH!! I got it right as I clicked the Submit button: Age of Empires.
Klug	posted 06-02-99 08:23 PM ET Favorite TBS: Moo2 VERY close 2nd: SMAC Honorable Mention: Railroad Tycoon Note: NOrmally I'm apathetic towards RT based games. Favorite RTS: Diablo Alternate Favorite RTS (if Diablo doesn't count): Warcraft 2.
DilithiumDad	posted 06-02-99 08:44 PM ET Turn-based: SMAC and Deadlock II (Accolade) Real-time: Outpost 2 and Caesar 3(both Sierra) Never played Civ.
Nell_Smith	posted 06-02-99 09:38 PM ET TBS: Civ II and SMAC... can't decide which RTS: X-Com Apocalypse and Caesar III... also can't decide which! Nell... the decisive one
seth5454	posted 06-02-99 09:42 PM ET TBS: SMAC and i have a feeling im going to get chewed out for this one but Deadlock the first one. RTS: Caesar is pretty good.
Chronomog	posted 06-02-99 09:58 PM ET Real time strategy TA ok starcraft sucks people im sorry but 6 new units in a 30 dollar expansion pack Best turn based Alpha Centauri Excellent game Reynolds
SmartFart	posted 06-03-99 03:30 PM ET tbs: tic-tac-toe rts: pac-man
LoD	posted 06-03-99 04:53 PM ET Dutch Boy: AFAIR, Dune wasn't an RTS in its strict sanse - it was a adventure/strategy hybrid. That's why Dune 2 is recognized as the first RTS.
El Presidente	posted 06-03-99 05:31 PM ET Mcerion posted 05-29-99 05:18 PM ET -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TBS: Civ2, SMAC, Imperium Galactica RTS: Myth, Myth 2 & Sid's Gettysburg _____________________________________________ Mcerion, how was Imperium Galactica a turn based game? As I recall, it was entirely RTS (but my memory of ground combat is a but fuzzy. That part may have been TB) My favorite TBS games: Outpost, X-com games My favorite RTS games: Imperium Galactica, Transport Tycoon (TT has Railroad Tycoon and all the other transport games beat hands down) I'm surprised no one else has mentioned Outpost. It was a good game if you had automatic trucking on, and the research aspect was one of the most interesting (if poorly executed) I've ever seen. I know I'm not alone on this one.
Possibility	posted 06-03-99 06:50 PM ET If were talking multiplayer, then AoE + Rise of Rome expansion is the God of all games. Ok, granted the single player sucks, but who in the hell these days actually plays single players. Multiplayer is where all the fun is, and AoE is the most fun. Go play it on the zone, there is about 3000 people for you to play it with there at any one time (not like 1 or 2 if your lucky on Alpha HQ). Possibility The God of AoE Death Match!
Provost Harrison	posted 06-04-99 09:14 PM ET I still play single player. Living in the UK means that all phonecalls to the internet cost, and for a long period of time, are quite expensive.
Mcerion	posted 06-05-99 01:12 AM ET LOL, you are right El Presidente. It's been so long since I played it. I forgot it was real time. It just seemed like a TBS when I remembered it. Nell: I just picked up X-Com: Apocalypse for .99� at a EB clearance sale. That game is excellent. Didn't anybody here like the Myth games? I think they are great especially in multiplayer. The single player story is pretty good too.
Xuenay	posted 06-05-99 05:16 AM ET RTS: Total Annihilation TBS: SMAC, HOMM3 or Civ2. Difficult to choose.
El Presidente	posted 06-06-99 01:39 AM ET Has anyone mentioned Emperor of the Fading Suns? It's an ultra-complex version of civ with spaceships and a REALLY detailed background. I personally thought it was just as good as civ, but the dated graphics and annoying interface made many gamers pass it up. I recommend it highly.
Shining1	posted 06-07-99 12:09 AM ET RTS: Virtually anything - this is my favourite realm. StarcraftBW ranks supreme, but only because of the negatives in Total AnnihiliationCC (one dimensional units, no personality, no story). The Krogoths and rapid fire plasma guns make up for it A LOT though, and I like the idea of having only 2 sides (ARM are a pack of soft boys.) However, NOTHING, in any other game, matches the sheer fun and personality of Warcraft. I love this game. TBS: Currently HOMM3, since SMAC is unstable on my current setup and CivII is old and irritating (SMAC's total cop out combat system and the lack of any decent combat graphics also irritate me - along with people who say those things don't matter). Roll on SMACX, which hopefully will address those issues (if they want me to buy it, anyway...) FPS: Half-life - incredible game.
HolyWarrior	posted 06-07-99 02:32 AM ET El Presidente: I had heard about Fading Suns, but I thought it was advertised as an RPG? Anyway, I have never seen it in my area. And you mentioned Outpost as a great game? I heard it was buggier than an ant farm. Besides, it's real-time, so it's crap. I HATE real-time
Delgath	posted 06-07-99 02:47 AM ET Dune one was good but strategy? I'd call it RP. RTS: The Ancient Art of War. (Eighties flashback), Pirates, Led Wars, Dune 2, Battle of Britain on the Commodore 64 laptop TBS: SMAC!!!!! X-Com 2 (I think it was called terror of the deep or something, just because I loved the drills) Delgath. UoP. Where do you want to colonize today?
El Presidente	posted 06-07-99 05:45 AM ET El Presidente: The original release of Outpost was the buggiest game I've ever seen, but then Sierra released "version 1.5" in which many bugs were fixed and it became a good game. It is also completly turn based. Outpost 2 was the real-time one, but I've never played it because real-time sucks, so I can't comment on it. Also, Emporer of the Fading Suns is based on the Fading Suns pen and pencil RPG, which I am also quite fond of. It didn't sell very well, however, so you probably won't find it in local stores. It is avaliable from some on-line stores fairly cheap, though.
El Presidente	posted 06-07-99 05:48 AM ET Oops. The above post is directed towards HolyWarrior, not me.
Jay	posted 06-07-99 06:58 AM ET TBS: SMAC, Conquest of the New World, Colonization, Civ 1, and the list goes on... RTS: Settlers II, Myth 2, Starcraft, Dark Reign... And Atahualpa, if you Can't Wait Any Longer for Diablo II, you should join CWAL.
threeover	posted 06-07-99 12:33 PM ET dune2, enough said
JarJarStinx	posted 06-10-99 08:13 AM ET As primitive as they seem now, I still like the turn-based games from the late 80's - early 90's. Games like SSI's AD&D series (especially Gold Box series), Wasteland, Dragon Wars, Bards Tale III, Might & Magic II & III. These games are still playable. The best games have always been Sid Meier's : Pirates, Railroad Tycoon, Civ I & II, and now SMAC.
ZRand007	posted 06-10-99 03:59 PM ET TBS: 3)People's General 2)Civ II MP Gold 1)SMAC RTS: 3)Red Alert 2)Total Annihilation 1)Jane's Fleet Command A word on Starcraft: I beat the game within 12 hours of its purchase. Created many, many custom games, beat 99% of them. (the 1% was my first game or two)Went to EB and bought Brood War. Complete waste of money, beat that in 5 hours. Only six new units??? Laughable. No new AI, which was sorely needed. (SC had no better AI than Warcraft II) I'm sorry, but SC and BW rate as probably my least favorite RTS games. And what's wrong with Pax Imperia??? It's not great... the wormhole concept sucked, the diplomacy sucked, and the AI sucked, but those battles were AWESOME for a game made by such a then-small company. I'm waiting for Pax III, with 3D acceleration, intelligent AI, and more options. One RTS I want bad: Tiberian Sun. Yeah Baby! -007 The Living Daylights
BrianB	posted 06-10-99 04:14 PM ET TBS #1) MOO2---(Awesome for when it came out!!) #2) SMAC---(Would be #1 if not for all the bugs) RTS #1) C&C (almost lost my job over it) #2) Warcraft (Grunts make the best sounds) ummmm OK! Oldies but goodies are always the best!
Zardoz	posted 06-10-99 07:08 PM ET Let me add SMG to my RTS selection. I was looking for a game to play to switch off of SMAC for a while to rest my eyes. It was about 8:00 PM, decided to fight a few small battles and get to bed at a reasonable time for once. Just a few more turns later it is 1:30 AM and I need to be up at 5:30 to get to work at 7:00, another night with 4 hours of sleep. Firaxis is really screwing up my sleep patterns Keep up the good work
bomberman	posted 06-11-99 02:11 AM ET Favorite turn based game(s):Jagged AllianceL Deadly Games(eagerly awaiting JA2), SMAC, Civ2 Favorite RTS: Starcraft This definitlely my favorite rts game, no other one has stayed on my hd longer, and I still play it almost as often now as I did when I first got it. It had a good single player storyline, and I am still learning new strategies in multiplayer. (SMAC was one of the first games to actually get me to stop playing SC/Brood War for awhile, now I play both ) bomberman
Rigil_Kentaurus	posted 06-11-99 07:01 AM ET RTS: I'm not a big RTS fan, but I'd have to say either the "original" Dune 2 or Warcraft 2. TBS: Cursed be the makers of SMAC, for they have dragged the genre down in the mud. Okay it's not THAT bad... The best of all time is definately Master of Orion 2 (it can still be bought in the Microprose online store). Most of you have probably never played it, but THAT is one hell of a game. If SMAC was half the game MOO2 was and still had the Sid Meier name it would probably have been called the best game ever (MOO2 was not made by Sid). MOO2 featured pretty good graphics, were the first to introduce some of the things in SMAC, and had so many novel ideas and great stuff that it just ROCKED like Elvis Presley.
Valtyr	posted 06-11-99 11:59 PM ET "...it just ROCKED like Elvis Presley." I.e. not at all?
Horgawitz	posted 06-13-99 07:53 PM ET The best turn based stragey game is X-com UFO defence The best Real time game is, by far Myth: The Fallen Lords
kaetux	posted 06-17-99 02:59 AM ET RTS: Outpost 2, Total Annihilation, Starcraft (just a little bit), Battlezone, Myth II, and Caesar III TBS: Alpha Centauri, Civilization 2, and Worms (dammit, why does everyone always forget worms!!)