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Evk posted 05-26-99 12:27 AM ET
I'd just like to say the most useful SP for any faction is, IMHO, the Cloning Vats. It's always my key to winning (well, that, and a crapload of Hydroponic Satilites and Hab Complexes). After that, I'd say the Virtual World, but I always play as UoP, so that's a little skewered.
Darkstar posted 05-26-99 08:29 AM ET
MOST Useful?
Weather Project. Great being able to have full terraforming from the start.
Then... Command Nexus (great savings on the infrastructure), Hunter-Seeker (keep that tech edge, and don't have to stack units to prevent subversion), Human Genome (Gain a little Drone tolerance), CDF (don't have to build those Perim and keeps it out of my opponents hands, Cyborg Factory, Maritime.
Everything else is gravy.
-Darkstar
Aredhran posted 05-26-99 09:02 AM ET
Right on the money as usual, Darkstar !
Although depending on the planet condition, I would add Xenoempathy dome, which can be an awesome asset, and with abundant life forms the (whatever it is that gives +50% psi defense) is a life saver.
Aredhran
Darkstar posted 05-26-99 09:47 AM ET
Thanks Aredhran. I am sure others find different Secret Projects more worthwhile, but that seems to be my top shopping list.
XenoDome is a good one as well, but my games tend to be over before I get the tech to build it.
-Darkstar
Aredhran posted 05-26-99 09:56 AM ET
Most of my games could be over by that time as well, but as I pointed out in some other thread, I go for an early "build up and leave the AI alone" routine, so that they give me a bit more of a challenge later on.
For example, in my current Yang game, around MY 2240 I'm facing a 2-front war with two very powerful factions, PK and Believers (I have already reduced UoP, Spartans, Gaia and Morgan to insignificant status). I find it more interesting, even if I don't have many doubts about the final income Just got Synthetic Fossile Fuels (= Missiles, mwuahaha )
I did miss the WP and the CDF (Miriam got'em, which sucks), and Lal has the VW (Volkswagen... hehehe) but I don't care, because with the Gnome Project and my Police bonus I can easily control these drones (and if they bug me I'll just nerve staple them )
Aredhran
Darkstar posted 05-26-99 12:59 PM ET
Aredhran, you sound like my friend Scott. He used to trade/give away to the computer players his top weapons and deflector screens in MOO, so that he could have bigger battles. He'd smash everything in the galaxy, slam Orion, and pick up Death Rays. Then, he'd give away a bunch of tech (as I said), let the computer build up for 50 to 100 turns and go smash them again. Then, he'd start a new game. He had fun though, and that's the point of playing...
-Darkstar
HolyWarrior posted 05-26-99 11:55 PM ET
No no no...best SP by far is Hunter-Seeker.
Even as the Believers, I have to build it to keep anyone else from getting it.
Aredhran posted 05-27-99 03:42 AM ET
Bah. If anybody else gets HSA, just conquer the base... and it will be yours !
Darkstar, you got my point exactly: FUN. That's what it's all about. But an early rush with lasers is also nice, every now and then...
Aredhran
Evk posted 05-27-99 03:52 AM ET
Ok. The REAL most useful SP is.... ...THE BULK MATTER TRANSMITTER!!
NO!! I'm just kidding! Don't hurt me!
Aredhran posted 05-27-99 06:56 AM ET
The Flame Squad switched off their weapons as the carbonized husk that once was Evk fell to the gound and crumbled to dust...
Aredhran
-sorry dude, couldn't resist -
Valtyr posted 05-28-99 07:31 PM ET
Yeah, I used to do that in CivII if I was far ahead of the others. I'd give them all my advances and some of my money. It was more fun crushing them that way .
tfs99 posted 05-28-99 07:43 PM ET
Hey!! Wait a minute. I just realized that Evk created an on topic thread!
<shudder><faint><clunk>
Evk!! You must stop this perverted behavior immediately. Otherwise ...
NO SMAC FOR YOU!!
The Forum Nazi
trippin daily posted 05-28-99 07:48 PM ET
Damn you tfs, I was going to post that too. Evk made an on topic thread. Damn! You know, most of us in here are proud.
Trippin Daily
Ashlocke posted 05-29-99 05:09 PM ET
There are a list of SPs that I always (one of my favorite combo's is Merchant Exch., Super Collider, Theory of Everything) try to build, but in the mid game (single player) my favorite is the universal translator. I save up most or all of my artifacts and then cash them in at once. Nothing like bashing the AI with singularity hover tanks while they're still using plasma armor and *maybe* fusion power. And of course there's always the fun of giving them tech then PBing them into oblivion anyway. It's so cathartic.
Krushala posted 05-29-99 10:53 PM ET
Early game: command nexus
Mid game: Hunter Seeker
Late game: cloning vats/telepathic matrix
Kefaed posted 05-29-99 11:25 PM ET
Why, the A to T of course. You've got to love that movie
The Self Aware Colony, awesome, awesome movie, and great effect
Ascetic Virtues, the hab +2 helps when you play as Morgan.
Planetary datalinks, essential for Miriam
Dim Cat posted 05-29-99 11:37 PM ET
Combination of CDF/Maritime Control/Comand Nexus is great in the beginning.
Xenoempathy Dome and HSA are my favorites in the middle game.
Space Elevator is the best at the end. That and drop units = end of the game in 15 turns.
Krushala posted 05-30-99 01:27 AM ET
The Dream Twister movie is pretty cool. it can be useful too as the gaians or when fighting the gaians. I had to use that in conjunction with empath infantry to crack her bases.
Provost Harrison posted 06-04-99 06:39 PM ET
The most useful SP...I would probably say the Cloning Vats. But never underestimate the combination of the Theory of Everything/Supercollider/Merchant Exchange in the same base. Major tech!
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Author	Topic: Most useful SP
Evk	posted 05-26-99 12:27 AM ET I'd just like to say the most useful SP for any faction is, IMHO, the Cloning Vats. It's always my key to winning (well, that, and a crapload of Hydroponic Satilites and Hab Complexes). After that, I'd say the Virtual World, but I always play as UoP, so that's a little skewered.
Darkstar	posted 05-26-99 08:29 AM ET MOST Useful? Weather Project. Great being able to have full terraforming from the start. Then... Command Nexus (great savings on the infrastructure), Hunter-Seeker (keep that tech edge, and don't have to stack units to prevent subversion), Human Genome (Gain a little Drone tolerance), CDF (don't have to build those Perim and keeps it out of my opponents hands, Cyborg Factory, Maritime. Everything else is gravy. -Darkstar
Aredhran	posted 05-26-99 09:02 AM ET Right on the money as usual, Darkstar ! Although depending on the planet condition, I would add Xenoempathy dome, which can be an awesome asset, and with abundant life forms the (whatever it is that gives +50% psi defense) is a life saver. Aredhran
Darkstar	posted 05-26-99 09:47 AM ET Thanks Aredhran. I am sure others find different Secret Projects more worthwhile, but that seems to be my top shopping list. XenoDome is a good one as well, but my games tend to be over before I get the tech to build it. -Darkstar
Aredhran	posted 05-26-99 09:56 AM ET Most of my games could be over by that time as well, but as I pointed out in some other thread, I go for an early "build up and leave the AI alone" routine, so that they give me a bit more of a challenge later on. For example, in my current Yang game, around MY 2240 I'm facing a 2-front war with two very powerful factions, PK and Believers (I have already reduced UoP, Spartans, Gaia and Morgan to insignificant status). I find it more interesting, even if I don't have many doubts about the final income Just got Synthetic Fossile Fuels (= Missiles, mwuahaha ) I did miss the WP and the CDF (Miriam got'em, which sucks), and Lal has the VW (Volkswagen... hehehe) but I don't care, because with the Gnome Project and my Police bonus I can easily control these drones (and if they bug me I'll just nerve staple them ) Aredhran
Darkstar	posted 05-26-99 12:59 PM ET Aredhran, you sound like my friend Scott. He used to trade/give away to the computer players his top weapons and deflector screens in MOO, so that he could have bigger battles. He'd smash everything in the galaxy, slam Orion, and pick up Death Rays. Then, he'd give away a bunch of tech (as I said), let the computer build up for 50 to 100 turns and go smash them again. Then, he'd start a new game. He had fun though, and that's the point of playing... -Darkstar
HolyWarrior	posted 05-26-99 11:55 PM ET No no no...best SP by far is Hunter-Seeker. Even as the Believers, I have to build it to keep anyone else from getting it.
Aredhran	posted 05-27-99 03:42 AM ET Bah. If anybody else gets HSA, just conquer the base... and it will be yours ! Darkstar, you got my point exactly: FUN. That's what it's all about. But an early rush with lasers is also nice, every now and then... Aredhran
Evk	posted 05-27-99 03:52 AM ET Ok. The REAL most useful SP is.... ...THE BULK MATTER TRANSMITTER!! NO!! I'm just kidding! Don't hurt me!
Aredhran	posted 05-27-99 06:56 AM ET The Flame Squad switched off their weapons as the carbonized husk that once was Evk fell to the gound and crumbled to dust... Aredhran -sorry dude, couldn't resist -
Valtyr	posted 05-28-99 07:31 PM ET Yeah, I used to do that in CivII if I was far ahead of the others. I'd give them all my advances and some of my money. It was more fun crushing them that way .
tfs99	posted 05-28-99 07:43 PM ET Hey!! Wait a minute. I just realized that Evk created an on topic thread! <shudder><faint><clunk> Evk!! You must stop this perverted behavior immediately. Otherwise ... NO SMAC FOR YOU!! The Forum Nazi
trippin daily	posted 05-28-99 07:48 PM ET Damn you tfs, I was going to post that too. Evk made an on topic thread. Damn! You know, most of us in here are proud. Trippin Daily
Ashlocke	posted 05-29-99 05:09 PM ET There are a list of SPs that I always (one of my favorite combo's is Merchant Exch., Super Collider, Theory of Everything) try to build, but in the mid game (single player) my favorite is the universal translator. I save up most or all of my artifacts and then cash them in at once. Nothing like bashing the AI with singularity hover tanks while they're still using plasma armor and maybe fusion power. And of course there's always the fun of giving them tech then PBing them into oblivion anyway. It's so cathartic.
Krushala	posted 05-29-99 10:53 PM ET Early game: command nexus Mid game: Hunter Seeker Late game: cloning vats/telepathic matrix
Kefaed	posted 05-29-99 11:25 PM ET Why, the A to T of course. You've got to love that movie The Self Aware Colony, awesome, awesome movie, and great effect Ascetic Virtues, the hab +2 helps when you play as Morgan. Planetary datalinks, essential for Miriam
Dim Cat	posted 05-29-99 11:37 PM ET Combination of CDF/Maritime Control/Comand Nexus is great in the beginning. Xenoempathy Dome and HSA are my favorites in the middle game. Space Elevator is the best at the end. That and drop units = end of the game in 15 turns.
Krushala	posted 05-30-99 01:27 AM ET The Dream Twister movie is pretty cool. it can be useful too as the gaians or when fighting the gaians. I had to use that in conjunction with empath infantry to crack her bases.
Provost Harrison	posted 06-04-99 06:39 PM ET The most useful SP...I would probably say the Cloning Vats. But never underestimate the combination of the Theory of Everything/Supercollider/Merchant Exchange in the same base. Major tech!