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Topic: Contest: Who's got the crappiest PC to play SMAC on ?
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Aredhran |
posted 05-25-99 12:48 PM ET
I was just curious about one thing... Am I the only one out there that is running this game on the oldest, crappiest piece of hardware there is ?Here I go... Pentium 100, 24MB RAM, 2 GB HD, Original Matrox Mystique, 32xMax CD-ROM Let me tell you, with that kind of setup, you'll understand the *true* meaning of the word S L O W ! Trust me on that one... It takes about 1'30" to 2' to get to SMAC's main menu (800x600 of course), with the movie disabled, plus another 45" or so to load a game (but that depends on map size and number of units) Let me know what you guys are using, so that I don't feel as destitute anymore A r e d h r a n . . . - Not feeling *that* swift moving PS: As soon as I can spare the cash, I'll get one of these screamers ! Oh yeah, baby !
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JAMstillAM
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posted 05-25-99 01:22 PM ET
Aredhran,Now I know why it takes so long to turn around your MP turns.  But, seriously, it gives me hope that with the spare parts that I have laying around the house I might be able to put together a clunker that could be networked to my main computer and my wife's for live 3way MP. That is, if I ever make any friends.  JAMiAM |
Goobmeister
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posted 05-25-99 02:02 PM ET
JAM, I really don't think you have to worry about that last part. So don't waste your time building a third PC.  Well my computer is a P166 with 32 megs o' Ram, but it is also a Packard Bell. I don't know which meaning the acronym PB disturbs me the most. Considering that a work I use a P.II 400 with 96 m. Ram, a 17 inch monitor, and a T1 connection I am always somewhat depressed to use my PC at home. (Though that one has SMAC loaded and this one doesn't, that at least brings a smile to my face. Goob |
tfs99
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posted 05-25-99 02:16 PM ET
My old system:Pentium 75 (with busted external cache), 32Mb RAM, 13" Display, ~5Gb Storage  My new system: Celeron 333 , 64Mb RAM, 19" Display, ~4Gb Storage, Win98 (bleh, bleh, ) SMAC loads pretty fast (~10 secs), but it is still annoying that you have to load it over and over and over again to play PBEM turns. Gripe! Gripe! Gripe!  SMAC loads real nice on a WinNT system (~3 seconds). NTFS is soooooo nice. Yes, I am still SMACing n ... Ted S. |
trippin daily
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posted 05-25-99 02:27 PM ET
Damn, and i thought mine was bad.Pentium 200.. 16 megs.. was 32, but **** happens. Generic 25 dollar video card. 32X cd rom that reads slower than my 2x on my 486 (the 2x is a SCSI, but still). 15 inch monitor with a huge ****in magnetic spot in it. That happened because my dumbass friend put my 25 pound subwoofer (just the speaker, no box) for my car down right by the fricken monitor when he took it out of the box it came in. Now all the colors are really ****ed up. the fungus is green and yellow in some areas, and its red in others. and in some spots.. it doesn't even show up. You try playing quake like that... you get killed quick cause you can't see a damn thing. Oh yeah, and I'm stuck with aol. Don't even get me started about that part. Trippin Daily -I'm not pychedelic, my monitor is- |
CoolWords
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posted 05-25-99 02:58 PM ET
So far, I win. I'm not sure how I feel about that....  Until last weekend, my dinosaur was a 486-DX4/100. It wasn't unusual for a turn to take almost an hour in endgames. Actually, I guess I don't win anymore... now I'm installing an AMD K6-2/350 on a 100MHz motherboard. That ear-to-ear grin hasn't gone away yet....  |
OldWarrior_42
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posted 05-25-99 04:25 PM ET
Man....I am starting to feel sorry for you guys I have a PII 300 ...Compaq...64mb ram....8 gb hd....32xcd max...ATI rage fury video card and Ess soundblaster compatible sound card. Going to upgrade to 128 ram and get the new ATI 32mb video card. If I can work it out I will start a collection going for you guys to get you all new comps.... You're making me feel bad(yeah right) |
Zero_Gauss
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posted 05-25-99 09:25 PM ET
My system (sorry not quite as bad a clunker as a PB uggh):-P233 Mhz MMX -Generic VXPro+ Motherboard -128 MB EDO RAM -ATX MiniTower (cracked and f*cked up) -16 MB Diamond Monster Fusion (voodoo banshee) -SoundBlaster Live! Value -IBM DeskStar 8.4 GB HD -BTX 32x CD-ROM (makes the table vibrate) -56k X2/V.90 Modem -Encore 10/100 PCI Ethernet Adapter -Boston Acoustics BA-365 Sub w/ sattelites -Cisco 650 ADSL router -Linksys 10/100 Ethernet hub -19" Monitor (.26 dpi), w/ USB hub My case is ugly as hell 'cuz I took it on a greyhound bus once and it got all banged around. My monitor is brand new as of last week, I have an older 17" hanging around (anyone want it? 
Let me just say that ADSL OWNS YOU! 512k/s is almost like having your own personal T1 (well, kinda). My pings in quake are damn near ~80-110 ms, I download at around 30-40k/second, and all for the great price of $60 a month. Wahoo! live long, and uh ... prosper, Zero-Gauss
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tfs99
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posted 05-25-99 09:35 PM ET
Don't rub it in ZG. <sniff> <whimper> <whine>I've been wanting to get ADSL for months now, but it's not available in my neighborhood . And I live in the heart of Silicon Valley! I don't wanna shell out for ISDN either, only to find out that ADSL was just around the corner. But the folks at PacBell won't give any firm estimates of when ADSL will be available!  SMAC n ... (at 56k) ... Ted S. |
Submachinegun
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posted 05-25-99 10:34 PM ET
P-90 40 MB RAM 1,6 GB HD 3D-Blaster Banshee /16Mb RAM 6x Cd-rom 15" screen SoundBlaster 16it sucks... |
Aredhran
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posted 05-26-99 05:14 AM ET
One can always trust Trip' to invent some cool trick to stay high Hey man, maybe you should get ZG's 17 incher...CoolWords... 486 ? I wouldn't even want to play SMAC on that in my worst nightmares ! You know, when I started this thread I just *knew* that some people were going to say something like "I have a Hectium 1500 MHz with 500 TB hard drive and 2 GB RAM" and that I would hate them for it... So, I hate you all, with your fast machines. But someday, I'll get a faster PC than you, and then I shall rule the world, MWUAHAHAHA Aredhran
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Stasis Archon
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posted 05-26-99 07:37 AM ET
Celeron 450A (Overclocked from 300) 128 MB RAM 19 GB Hard Disk 16 MB Diamond Viper graphics card 36 X CD-ROM Drive 17" screen Sound Blaster 64I lose  |
Aredhran
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posted 05-26-99 08:00 AM ET
Stasis Archon: Yeah, yeah. Blah blah 450 Blah Hard disk Yadda yadda better PC blah sorry for you BLAH !Aredhran  -wishing there were one of those smilies to express jealousy, make it green- |
HMFIC
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posted 05-26-99 11:11 AM ET
I play SMAC on an old abacus I got at a yard sale...the old lady didnt know how to use it. I once tried upgrading to an HP calculator, but with all the lights going off on the display, coupled with the reverse-polish notation input, I kept planet busting myself.  |
Aredhran
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posted 05-26-99 11:22 AM ET
LOL  |
Goobmeister
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posted 05-26-99 11:35 AM ET
It is hard to tell what is fungus and what is forest on my Etch-n-Sketch. I need Gamma Correction pretty bad.I also fond that it is hard to play Ironman on it, because whenever I lose a battle I automatically shake it, and thus it reboots my game. Goob Baldly ripping off HMFIC... 
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marc420w
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posted 05-26-99 04:03 PM ET
Thanks Aredhan, now I don't feel so badCyrix P200+ (a pentium II knockoff at 150MHZ, but since they claimed it was as fast as a Pentium 200, they gave it this name) 64MB ram ....the system's saving grace 3GB hard drive....mostly full 4x CD rom I run SMAC with most everything off...sound, movies, etc. Its generally pretty quick once I'm actually in the game. Sometimes I need to go turn the sound on, then turn it right back off to speed it up and cure some mystery slowness that creeps in. |
Alphagene
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posted 05-26-99 10:52 PM ET
OK...It's an IBM Aptiva. Never, NEVER buy one. They game me a break as a student, financially and threw in tons of free software which is why I bought it. But it's not worth the agitta. P133 1.6 Gb HD 8x CD-ROM 33.6 Mwave soundcard/modem* 32Mb RAM No 3D anything. I think it's barely 2D... SMAC works fine once I switched to lo-res caviar. Mmmm.. caviar. *This piece of crap was standard issue with all Aptivas from that era (1996). It is not compatible with anything. Even with a million or so driver ugrades, the crappy thing is barely recongizable to DirectX. Even now, DirectSound is still sketchy. I had to wait almost half a year to get the upgrade while games like Diablo sat unused in their boxes. Well, at least I have my health. Alphagene
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Koshko
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posted 05-26-99 11:09 PM ET
I got an Aptiva 166, and I don't think it sucks (it least when all the new games could run on it). Sure I had my original CD-ROM drive decide to die of hyprothermia (now got a 32x), but I've got no other major complaints. |
Michael G
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posted 05-27-99 12:09 AM ET
hahahahahaa! No one can beat my computers crapyness!!!!! bwahahahahahhahahahahaP90 16MB Ram 8 min. load time! hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaa! wait... why am i laughing???  |
KriFos99
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posted 05-27-99 05:31 AM ET
Muhahahaw!No-one can beat me.... Kingston Turbochip 586/133MHz(Like a P86)... 14"monitor 1mb screencard... 36mbRAM... damn.... It won't start... Can't even play it.... But my newest one can: AMD K6-2 475Mhz, 128MBRAM, 16MB TNT RIVA 2d/3d! SBLIVE! Yeap, it rocccks... 17"monitor also  |
MoSe
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posted 05-27-99 06:55 AM ET
Hmmm... so I guess I'm no more entitled to whine. The fact is, I've got a fair PC at home (bought Jan 98), while we give good ones to users at work, keeping the spares for us in the lab (just opposite as Goob...). I started playing SMAC at home, on a: PII333 120 Mb RAM ATI Xpert@work AGP 2x 8Mb HDD Quantum FireBall SE 8.4Gb (full install...) SB awe64 19" .26 1600x1200 120MHz monitorand I got used to it, at the point that I thought IMPOSSIBLE to play at work on a: P133 32Mb RAM 1.2 Gb HDD NO CD-ROM drive (installed from a shared drive, US version doesn't need the CD in to play) ATI mach64 on-board NO sound card (well, there's a broken Mozart OAK still in the slot..) and NT4.0 (luckily with SP4, what about DirectX otherwise?) now there's where I play my PBEM turns, figure I was planning to ask for some in-game bonuses to compensate for such an handicap... I'm afraid someone else is going to get this grant. |
OldWarrior_42
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posted 05-27-99 08:37 AM ET
Well ...actually I have to listen to the sound for the game on my Eight Track tape player, and play the game on my sears Intelevision set. |
jimmytrick
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posted 05-27-99 08:43 AM ET
You just gotta get your priorities straight folks. I drive home inna 1968 Ford truck to play on my Dell Dimension XPS R-450 with DVD, STB, tv-tuner card, etc.......Thinking about upgrading to a Falcon system at Christmas....... got a Tandy 64 in the closet I would be willing to part with AREDHRAN, for the right price.... hahahahahaha! (gee that felt good) |
arleth
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posted 05-27-99 08:55 AM ET
OK so I guess that I win  I use a 100 MHz 486 with: 20 MB RAM (Hell even my printer has more ) 4x CD-ROM 1 MB Graphic Card 14" Screen A dirtcheap noname soudcard.I really make my work PC (100 MHz Pentium clasic) look like a speedy PC And I still like the game |
Aredhran
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posted 05-27-99 11:03 AM ET
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Aredhran
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posted 05-27-99 11:03 AM ET
Actually, make that ! |
Picker
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posted 05-27-99 11:13 AM ET
I have a cyrix, that beats you all! |
Picker
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posted 05-27-99 11:20 PM ET
It may not be as slow as a 486 but damn it crashes the game all the time, you have no idea how annoying it is to play for 20 years and then lose it all because your computer gimps out. |
PaulBot
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posted 06-01-99 04:24 PM ET
I think I win the wimpiest PC award:I have a printout of the SMAC source code, and I go through it line by line and take notes on granite tablets with a blunt chisel. After 3 months of playing 4 hours a day, I'm FINALLY up to M.Y. 2103 on my FIRST game!
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ejrolon
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posted 06-01-99 10:19 PM ET
i am sorry i either play SMAC on a HP omnibook 200mhz with 32 ram, or a 233 PII Dell with 17" monitor, 128 megs ram, SB 64 and a Firegl 3000 (40 megs of ram) or a dual 450PII fast SCSI, with 528 ram, 2 9gb scsi disks, 19" monitor, no sound (it's my work machine) and a firegl 3000.I feel so out of place though i still have my atari 400 with the basic cartridge. maybe i can port smac to run on it.... |
Zoetrope
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posted 06-02-99 06:25 AM ET
Sorry, I don't have any jokes to share.My SMAC PC is a P-100 with 80 MB RAM (16 MB real ancient + 64 MB EDO), a 2MB Diamond Stealth card, a 15" monitor; and a 24x CDD but that's irrelevant because I'm not using the CD for fear of scratching it. In version 3.0 the game speed is tolerable, due to the RAM I think. |
sandals
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posted 06-02-99 10:41 AM ET
Zoetrope - Try pulling those 16 MB out of your computer. Your L2 cache is probably disabled with >64 MB of RAM. That will be slowing your computer down noticeably on anything memory intensive. It happens here at work all the time with our P90-133 machines - some stupid IS guy put two 32 MB simms in and the machines have 8 MB soldered to the mobo, so we end up with 72 MB of RAM and a slow as crap machine for any real tasks. |
CBRancier
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posted 06-02-99 11:53 AM ET
I currently am using a Tandy(Hardware)586 133Mhz AMD(Evergreen) Upgrade (only because of the bus, I changed it from 25MHz to 33Mhz on the mother board) from an original 486 25Mhz system upgraded once before this with a 75Mhz DX4, w/ a jimmied 1Gig Harddrive that is for a laptop and only gives me 350Mb because of the BIOS, that I have managed to squeze to 800Mb or so with Windows98 new compression and a 12XCDROM upgrade from 1XCDROM. I specifically bought the 586 for the SMAC game. Perhaps I should have not done so and bought a complete new mother board instead, but that would have taken more time. |
White Tiger
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posted 06-02-99 12:15 PM ET
Actually, I might beat you all if Enhancement 4.0 adds support for my Commodore 64. 64K Ram, baby! |
Singularity
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posted 06-03-99 08:33 PM ET
You name any ****ty computer and you can bet it's at the Warren Area High School. I bet they have everything on this list. |
Provost Harrison
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posted 06-04-99 08:07 PM ET
Just a mere old P200MMX, 48Mb, 3.6Gb, Matrox Millennium II. Better than some of yours but not the worst. Would really like a nice new fast computer. But, alas, I'm an impoverished student. Unless someone is feeling charitable and will give me �2000, it would be appreciated
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threeover
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posted 06-07-99 09:45 AM ET
Packard f-----ing Bell Pentium 60Mhz 40 MB RAM 1 MB f----- Cirrus Video Card 2x CD, great for movies  And the game runs pretty damn good (with some options turned off) |
Victor
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posted 06-07-99 06:32 PM ET
Pentium 200 MMX 64 Megs of RAM 2 GIG hard drive Native Video Card OK CD-ROM SB 64 Gold (4 Megs, I think) MediaOne connection (Not quite a T1, but quite nice) 14 inch monitor that SUCKS.In other words, my system is playable (upgraded to it from a 486 with 16 megs of ram, ouch). It's a Dell OptiPlex Gn, so a good quality computer, but I want a top-of the line Dell, costing $2519.00. Anyone want to give me a few bucks? |
Zardoz
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posted 06-08-99 05:58 PM ET
Currently my system is P233 Mhz MMX 96 MB RAM 16 MB Voodoo Banshee ~10 GB storage in 3 HDDs SB Awe 32 sound card 17 Inch Monitor 100 MB Zip Drive This is the third incarnation of a system that started out as Gateway 2000 P5-90. At some point in the not far distant future it will have to undergo a motherboard transplant once more. The only thing left from the P5-90 is the case and power supply and the Monitor. |
Jay
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posted 06-08-99 06:22 PM ET
P300, 24mb RAM, three harddrives with about 10gb total space, 16x cd-rom, 1meg Graphic card. I'm also working on a project to port SMAC into my old-but-still-working Amiga 500... |
yin26
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posted 06-09-99 01:30 AM ET
(Sorry)Micron Millenia Max 450 (how do I overclock?) 128MB RAM (gotta upgrade that already) 16 Gig HD (but will it accomodate Office2000?) 16 MB Video/Accelerator (I guess this helps) 40X CD ROM (fast setups, but no big deal) Subwoofer, etc. (I alread blew out the subwoofer, piece of ....!) 21" Monitor (NICE! Again, I say, NICE!) But I fire up the old 486 laptop that I used for years while saving up money just to remind myself how good life is now...it doesn't even have a CD ROM, so I hold it next to my new computer and watch the reflection on the small screen and pretend to play, imagining how slow it would be. Now if only SMAC didn't leak memory... Anyway, I paid my tons of money, so might as well be a bastard about it, right? Besides, it's alread out of date. P3s are out. 128MB RAM is 'standard.' They're putting 16 gig hard drives in toy Barneys. Makes me sick. My advice to anybody planning to buy a new system: Get more RAM than you think will be sufficient and NEVER skimp on the monitor. When all else is said and done, the monitor makes ALL the difference, plus you can plan on keeping it longer than most or all your other hardware. Yes, the extra $500-1,000 for the biggest, flattest moniter hurts, but it is all very, very much worth it. |
Eris
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posted 06-09-99 11:40 AM ET
You know, reading this list /does/ make me feel better about my machine. I thought I was the only person who was too broke to upgrade to a pentium 87/3e97 processor and 3 million billion gig of RAM and a hard drive you could download my entire local library onto with room for the latest 57 new games leftover and a 128x CD drive and the latest 4d superragediamondwithoverloadaccellerator video card with 128M onboard and a 256bit soundcard with 7 MILLION midi instrument definitions preloaded and a 32 inch flatscreen monitor and speakers the size of volkswagons. But some of you actually have /worse/ computers than mine.p133, 32M RAM 2G hard drive but it's split 1/1 (Linux/Windoze) 12x CD with a couple personality probs ATI Mach 64gt video card (2M, I think) SoundBlaster Awe64. Speakers that came with some cereal I bought, I think. And I'm fine with the speed of SMAC, except for two times: after I've been playing a long time without a machine reboot (sometimes), and when there's mroe than 3 units on the screen, where apparently it polls each unit about 50 times per second as to what it's doing in the middle of resolving my battle. I do have a 4G hard drive in my apartment, it just needs mounting struts. And a friend of mine says he thinks he's got 16M of RAM that'll work in my box that he can't use (he's not sure about the use part, not not sure about the work-in-my-box part). So I'll be getting a /bit/ better performance. But I have to admit I'd like to pick up a 233 or a 266, turn my 133 into a dedicated Linux box, and make the newer computer a Windoze NT box (using '95 right now), with service pack 3. |
threeover
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posted 06-09-99 01:46 PM ET
just found my old IMB 286AT with 512 of RAM and a CgA card.... AND GUESS WHAT ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?... the CD would not fit into the 5'25" drive, damn. |
Picker
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posted 06-09-99 01:51 PM ET
My 186 is worse than that. |
threeover
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posted 06-09-99 01:52 PM ET
186? what the hell is that? |
Picker
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posted 06-09-99 01:55 PM ET
It went 8088 8086(186) 80286 |
Zardoz
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posted 06-10-99 06:24 PM ET
I got a cable modem in my at least semi-crappy PC. With this new toy here I am in the SMAC forums? Have a network connection at work, they kinda frown on posting on forums there, something about misuse of company time. So I am playing with this new toy instead of playing SMAC and I end up back in the SMAC forums. At least they are FAST now. |
Aredhran
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posted 06-11-99 03:57 AM ET
Hehehehe...When I started this thread, I never thought it would turn out to be such a troll ! Hey, even Yin responded to it Aredhran -saving money to buy this PIII/500- |
yin26
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posted 06-11-99 03:59 AM ET
Darkstar stole my password. Go ahead. Ask him. |
Gibber09
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posted 06-11-99 04:26 AM ET
PIII 550 DELL XPS T 128 ram 22.6 Gb hd 56k modem 40x CD rom 19 inch monitor 32 Meg Diamond V770 TNT2 video card(or something like that) Mouse 3.5 inch Floppy drive 102 key keyboard mouse pad nice desk carpet chair fingers hands arms shoulders and brain would you believe all that came out to 2419?
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MaHuJa
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posted 06-15-99 04:44 AM ET
Try imagining this: SMAC will start on this sh***y h****crap: 486DX4 100Mhz 8 Mb RAM (no more, could have been less...) (got any 32pin mem to sell?) 640 Mb Quantum Fireball Harddisk +164 On a secondary unknown (including linux partitions) ISA Sound blaster 16 PnP 4x CD Cirrus logic CS*29 Win98 (believe it or not!)I think that is about the crappiest computer you can get SMAC to run on. But soon, I'll have: P3 450 128Mb RAM 10Gb 3d accel. 6xDVD +++++++++++++ Let's just hope I don't burn my hands. Anyone got Pentium at 600Mhz? Heard about it being released, for about 100000$
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Aredhran
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posted 06-28-99 07:29 AM ET
Hey, just a note to all my fellow slow-PC owners out there... Maybe some of you know this, but others may not and I thought this could be useful.Last week I was browsing the SMAC CD (something I don't usually do since I have a full install), and found that folder in there with "low-res cvr" or something of the sort. First, I thought "what's this", then I remembered reading somewhere that these were alternate 3D models for SMAC's units, with lower resolution (duh). Anyway, I thought I'd give it a shot, and copied the contents of this directory onto my SMAC folder, replacing all the other .CVR files. Fire up SMAC and WAOW ! It's actually *much, much faster* (even at 1024x768) . The loss in resolution is not so bad (you can see angles on a rover's armor for example), unit types are still recognizable, even weapons (with a trained, eagle eye ). Try this, you'll love it. Hope it helps... Aredhran
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Balleyhoo
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posted 06-28-99 08:34 PM ET
Not the worst but it is rare that I play with the cd; too much time waiting to spin up and down --> Compaq Presario 1610 notebook. P150 MMX! 32 megs of ram. I just could not ever convince myself to load it on the AMD 486 40 |