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Topic: Music
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Asphyiaxted Demon |
posted 07-13-99 10:02 PM ET
Blah who the **** here likes good music? ya know **** like metallica dama fracture KoRn /|/ I \|\ good ****
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Krushala
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posted 07-13-99 10:57 PM ET
are you being sarcastic dude?Some people will argue that it is not good music. I know it's not great but it sounds cool, and that's good enough for me. Metallica: kicks all ass Tool: kicks most ass Korn: kicks some ass Deftones: kick ass (did they break up or another album coming-haven't heard much). And a bunch of others |
jig
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posted 07-14-99 03:44 AM ET
I like music, period. |
M_ashwell
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posted 07-14-99 08:22 AM ET
i like queen phil collins genesis george michals madness and other "old" bands i am 19 years old and this does not computeM E Ashwell |
Krushala
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posted 07-14-99 06:42 PM ET
that's because most new bands suck. There are a few I listen to though. |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-14-99 07:20 PM ET
To quote the Blues Brothers movie, "I like both kinds of music ..."1. Metal that sounds like jazz. 2. Jazz that sounds like metal. That means (1) Dream Theater and (2) Chick Corea. Rush is good, too, and Wendy Carlos has some cool stuff out as well. Chick seems lately to have given up the metal side of the equation. Too bad. Dream Theater rocks! I pretty much like anything that's warped, twisted, loud, aggressive, and harmonically intelligent. Music that fits the profile is rare indeed, so I generally settle for some lesser combination of the above. John McLaughlin has jammed some real screamers, and Jan Hammer used to, but he plays like an old man now. Gerontolojazz in general has become sickeningly pervasive. Even Kenny G used to jam! Now he just ... tootles. Bummer. |
Krushala
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posted 07-14-99 08:43 PM ET
tootles |
HolyWarrior
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posted 07-16-99 02:34 AM ET
Die hard prog fan: Some of the old classics--Yes, Genesis, ELP, Rush, Kansas, Pink Floyd, Marillion, QueensrycheThe new bands: Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, Magellan, Cairo, Ice Age, Shadow Gallery, Echolyn. |
ZyXEL
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posted 07-16-99 02:39 AM ET
Only metal: heavy, dead, black, industrial,... It depends on how am I feeling. This new stuff is OK, but I listen ONLY METAL�oki
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Dreadnought
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posted 07-16-99 03:17 AM ET
Maybe it's just me, but I can't figure out this rap craze. It seems I'm the only one at my high school that doesnt like it. To me, all it is is very fast talking to a sysnisised (I know that's spelled wrong) beat. Could a fan of rap care to explain to me what it is about it that's attracts so many listeners.Dreadnought- One of the most apparent oxymorons of our time- "Rap music" |
MangoBreeder
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posted 07-16-99 03:53 AM ET
PULP PULP PULP PULP - just rule great tunes and even better lyricsJarvis cocker- A Man among Men Mis-shapes is the song about my life. any other got a song which is sounds like it is written about them. laterz |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-17-99 01:52 AM ET
Definitely "New World Man" by Rush.I am both my greatest asset and my own worst enemy. The better I get at solving a particular problem, the less likely I am to give it any forethought before jumping in and solving it. This half-cocked method, although good at motivating a kind of under-the-gun style of innovation, does not scale well. |
Trappist
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posted 07-17-99 04:08 AM ET
Why are metal fans frequently the most blinkered when it comes to checking out other forms of music? Most I know are very reluctant to admit appreciating anything else. |
Ronbo
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posted 07-17-99 03:53 PM ET
I work in a shop full of metal and rap lovers, and we frequently fight over what radio station we will listen to, but I solved the problem (when the two factions fought) by tuning the radio station to my personal favorite-the comtemporary jazz station. Now everyone plays well with everyone else, lest they be subjected to the horrors of "yuppie Muzak" or "shopping cart music".hehehe |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-18-99 02:28 AM ET
Because other forms of music are boring crap.I don't know, I was checking out some Bach today and he was really kickin' it, but Bach is sort of like metal from a long time ago. If other musicians write something other than boring crap then I'll listen to it. Unfortunately with the demise of jazz into boring crap metal is mostly all that's left. Tchiakovsky and Wagner have some non-boring stuff, but they're dead, so there's not a lot of new material coming from that department. Besides, Wagner's political overtones are shallow and cheesy -- even by heavy metal standards. Rap is aggressive enough but so harmonically sterile it makes Achy Breaky Heart sound like Stravinsky. So let's see, today's jazz is served up like strained bananas at a nursing home, the hardcore thrash classical composers are dead, country music has become too politically correct to have whiskey, gunfights, or domestic abuse any more (thus passing the proverbial baton to rap music), rap doesn't typically have music in it (although if it did it would be called "metal with some rap in it"), and alternative is a bunch of prissy guys whining about their emotional needs not being met and grrls screaming about what pigs guys are. (Sort of like what happens to your friends after they've had a few drinks.) Folk music is like country music only a lot more preachy and pretentious. New Age is like Toccata without the Fugue. It has some interesting harmonies but never goes anywhere, so you sit there building up this frustration as you keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never does and you think, "Come on, already. DO SOMETHING!" and you wind up screaming and pulling your hair and shaking your fists and the people around you wonder why you're so tense and THEY think YOU'RE the crazy one when THEY'RE the ones who're CRAZY for LISTENING to that crap! It never GOES anywhere! Why start out with these artful, tantalizing harmonies that could build into something cool but NEVER DO? FOR GOD'S SAKE, PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY AND DO SOMETHING! (Please wait while I clutch at my chest and pop a handful of aspirin and gasp for breath ... thank you.) So what does that leave? Metal. Pounding, screaming, 128th-note-arpeggiating harmonically-correct-guitar-string-feedbacking metal. Yeah, metalheads don't have much to like about other forms, and for good reason. I will say about metal what the Christians say about their religion: "We never consider alternatives because we already know ours is best." Amen. Now crank up the volume. |
Koshko
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posted 07-19-99 12:01 AM ET
ViVicdi, What about Christian rock bands? They really fit your answer. Krushala, Deftones rule. I believe there were at Ozzfest for a while. So, if this was the case, they're still around. Dread, It's nice to know that I'm not the only one that doesn't understand the popularity of rap. It all sounds alike to me. |
Koshko
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posted 07-19-99 12:03 AM ET
By the way, I like most forms of rock. |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-19-99 12:50 PM ET
"Creeping Death" by Metallica certainly opened my eyes to the potential of religious overtones in hardcore metal.So of course it occurs to me that for maximum aggression the Old Testament is the party zone, but not much Christian Rock goes there. Supposedly Bach got his inspiration from Christianity, so your suggestion has some validity to it. Christianity is a very intense religion, and that's an excellent start. I'm also looking for some metal in Japanese. The prevalence of hard consonants and the staccato rhythm of the language make it a perfect venue. Even Japanese poetry has a certain martial intensity to it. Unfortunately most Japanese metal bands sing in English. Bummer. |
onepaul
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posted 07-19-99 01:29 PM ET
Robert Miles |
Trappist
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posted 07-19-99 01:48 PM ET
ViVicdi- ever heard The Boredoms? Insane Japanese thrash. I've no idea what language they sing in.On the whole I've little patience with metal. It's all a little bland for my tastes. Yes- I have heard Korn, Tool etc, and they are not a patch on bands like Throbbing Gristle or Current 93 when it comes to scaring people.
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FauxCujo
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posted 07-19-99 07:39 PM ET
KoRn is not metal. KoRn is half-assed industrial.Nirvana, Local H, Soundgarden, Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Monster Magnet, and Made to Fade are my favorite bands. Looking back on that list, half those bands are dead. As far as I'm concerned, the best metal died when Randy Rhoads's plane crashed in 1982. Check out early Ozzy if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Crazy Train solo is the second-best guitar moment ever, after the one-minute feedback intro of High Fivin Mother****er (Local H). People like rap because people like to dance now more than they want to headbang. A lot of kids today are so emotionally empty, just like rap. |
walruskkkch
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posted 07-19-99 07:53 PM ET
"If the jukebox took teardrops, and the Whiskey were free. If that ol' car in the parking lot, drove home automatically. Wouldn't it be a wonderful world for somebody just like me."THere is still some hard drinking in country, just not the pop related pablum that gets played to death on the radio. Good music is where you find it, no genre has a copyright on great music. all types speak in different ways to all the emotions humans are heir to. "Barmaid, pour me a vacation!" |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-20-99 01:12 PM ET
Trappist:Hmm, if "Throbbing Gristle" isn't a metal band what exactly is it? I don't like Korn, either. I like Dream Theater. Not all metal satisfies the "intensity on all levels" ideal that I am constantly on the lookout for -- AC/DC's music is boring and predictable. Here's a neat way of deciding whether the music you listen to is any good or not: Play it back in your head on a piano. If it still sounds intense it passes the test. Good metal bands can actually USE a piano, like Chick Corea or Dream Theater, and can really jam with it. Thanks for the tip on The Boredoms. I'll have to check it out ... |
Trappist
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posted 07-20-99 01:37 PM ET
Throbbing Gristle made sick and disturbing electronic noise in the late 1970's. They grew out of the situationist art-terrorist conclave COUM. Basically, they set out to freak people out and usually succeeded. They're often cited as the first industrial band.Top tip? "Hamburger lady"- a description of a 90% burns victim over a queasy backing. My former flatmate said he felt dirty just being in the same room as the record.
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Koshko
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posted 07-21-99 12:15 AM ET
Local H definately rates up there. Korn does too. Dream Theatre is good if you don't mind long, winding songs (many of them reach the 7 min mark). |
DCA
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posted 07-21-99 04:15 AM ET
Ah, Throbbing Gristle, Genesis P-Orridge and the gang... fascinating stuff. Anyway, for 'intensity on all levels', you just have to try Velvet Underground's Sister Ray (on the White Light/White Heat album). I Heard Her Call My Name is also good...Anyway, metal's usually pretty dull. A bit like pop music, really. DCA, There were Arabs with knives at the foot of the bed. |
ViVicdi
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posted 07-21-99 12:29 PM ET
I've heard electronic noise before. Most of it's crap, except Wendy Carlos. Most of those people have a tin ear and overcompensate either with weird or catchy lyrics (which makes it similar to rap music) or with weird noises of the "gee, I wonder who they tortured to make THAT sound?" variety.Novelty has its place, but for me "experimental music" has to have both in equal parts. Wendy Carlos is the only one who seems to "get it". |
Trappist
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posted 07-21-99 01:35 PM ET
Sister Ray is great for the first 10 minutes but then it drraaaaaaggggssss. Still, being a major Velvets fan I'd going along with your choices.
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