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Timexwatch posted 07-10-99 06:37 PM ET
Lets here it for the USA women...damn good game.....
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-10-99 10:13 PM ET
Congradulations....yeah
Trappist posted 07-11-99 05:36 AM ET
Is there some kind of sporting context, or are you just praising their general wholesomeness?
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-11-99 07:55 AM ET
On Saturday the USA women's soccer team won the World cup by beating China 5-4 in a shootout.
OldWarrior_42 posted 07-11-99 07:57 AM ET
Although a praise of US women's general wholesomeness seems ok by me too.
Trappist posted 07-11-99 04:14 PM ET
Really? Nice one. How come the US women win the world cup while the men are nowhere near?
Khan Singh posted 07-11-99 05:33 PM ET
Two hours of play and the whole thing is decided by dumb luck. No wonder Americans won't watch soccer. American football at least has strategy.
Valtyr posted 07-11-99 09:41 PM ET
Well, the game wasn't great. I mean, what the hell happened to the Chinese? What a dour performance compared to when they trashed the Norwegians! Had they played as they did then they would have murdered the Americans, because their play left a lot to be desired as well. And Norway lost the third place final in a shoot-out to *gasp* Brazil! Losing to Brazil in women's football, who would have thought? And Brann lost as well... *sigh*
HolyWarrior posted 07-12-99 01:06 AM ET
Trappist, it's because male athletes are getting million-dollar contracts to play (gridiron), basketball, hockey, and baseball.
But hey, first basketball, then hockey, now soccer. USA women rule!
MikeH II posted 07-12-99 07:04 AM ET
Forget about that. In the real world, Brazil beat Argentina in one of the most intense matches I have ever seen. Superb skills, hard work, high tempo. Strong challenges, had everything.
Earwicker posted 07-12-99 10:59 AM ET
>>>Two hours of play and the whole thing is decided by dumb luck. No wonder Americans won't watch soccer. American football at least has strategy.
The game has to be decided somehow, and asking the players to continue until heat exhaustion set in would hardly be fair. This same point has been debated endlessly on other newsgroups (esp during last years' men's World Cup) with no better solutions.
Congratulations USA and China for an exciting match!
threeover posted 07-12-99 12:09 PM ET
overrrrated
Tolls posted 07-12-99 12:36 PM ET
They should've had a replay next week in Beijing...
JohnIII posted 07-12-99 01:44 PM ET
Khan Singh:
"American football at least has strategy.
"
Football DOES have strategy, just more spontaneous.
John III
Khan Singh posted 07-12-99 04:55 PM ET
The trouble with football is the goalie. No matter how good your setup is or how competant your players, the goalie stops almost everything. Good tactics aren't rewarded by goals.
Eliminate the goalie.
Spoe posted 07-12-99 04:55 PM ET
To break it down into gaming terms:
American Football: TBS with RTS battle resolution
Football: RTS(one of the more strategic ones; not one of the twitchfest ones)
Valtyr posted 07-12-99 04:57 PM ET
Yes, football (soccer) doesn't have all those (boooring) breaks between plays and no time-outs like the American game, so in-game strategy is more limited. Spontaneity and imagination are some of the greatest things about football (soccer).
And aaarrrggh!!! I don't get to watch the Copa America (South American Men's Championship) either!
Koshko posted 07-12-99 10:31 PM ET
I watched most of the game. (Well, I was playing the computer while the game was on [and after], but I was listening to it). I like Soccer. I played it when I was young.
Soccer probably won't ever be real popular in the US because watching it requires something the US lacks: An attention span. Even in the fastest paced and highest scoring soccer games, there are extended lulls where nothing much is visibly happening. Americans don't like that.
HolyWarrior posted 07-13-99 01:08 AM ET
The real reason that soccer will never become as popular as the other major sports is simple: Money.
Advertising drives American sports, gentlemen. However, soccer has continuous action, so where will you put the commercials?
Trappist posted 07-13-99 02:00 PM ET
HolyWarrior- "soccer" has been the most popular team sport in the world for at least the last 100 years. You're probably right about the US angle though.
ceebs posted 07-15-99 11:02 PM ET
Wow TV without commercials , you could be just like Britain,
Two chanels no comercials till you've seen it without, you cant appreciate how much better it is
Valtyr posted 07-16-99 12:05 AM ET
Yup, I've got four TV channels, two of them without commercials. Guess which ones I prefer to watch?
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Author	Topic: USA Women
Timexwatch	posted 07-10-99 06:37 PM ET Lets here it for the USA women...damn good game.....
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-10-99 10:13 PM ET Congradulations....yeah
Trappist	posted 07-11-99 05:36 AM ET Is there some kind of sporting context, or are you just praising their general wholesomeness?
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-11-99 07:55 AM ET On Saturday the USA women's soccer team won the World cup by beating China 5-4 in a shootout.
OldWarrior_42	posted 07-11-99 07:57 AM ET Although a praise of US women's general wholesomeness seems ok by me too.
Trappist	posted 07-11-99 04:14 PM ET Really? Nice one. How come the US women win the world cup while the men are nowhere near?
Khan Singh	posted 07-11-99 05:33 PM ET Two hours of play and the whole thing is decided by dumb luck. No wonder Americans won't watch soccer. American football at least has strategy.
Valtyr	posted 07-11-99 09:41 PM ET Well, the game wasn't great. I mean, what the hell happened to the Chinese? What a dour performance compared to when they trashed the Norwegians! Had they played as they did then they would have murdered the Americans, because their play left a lot to be desired as well. And Norway lost the third place final in a shoot-out to gasp Brazil! Losing to Brazil in women's football, who would have thought? And Brann lost as well... sigh
HolyWarrior	posted 07-12-99 01:06 AM ET Trappist, it's because male athletes are getting million-dollar contracts to play (gridiron), basketball, hockey, and baseball. But hey, first basketball, then hockey, now soccer. USA women rule!
MikeH II	posted 07-12-99 07:04 AM ET Forget about that. In the real world, Brazil beat Argentina in one of the most intense matches I have ever seen. Superb skills, hard work, high tempo. Strong challenges, had everything.
Earwicker	posted 07-12-99 10:59 AM ET >>>Two hours of play and the whole thing is decided by dumb luck. No wonder Americans won't watch soccer. American football at least has strategy. The game has to be decided somehow, and asking the players to continue until heat exhaustion set in would hardly be fair. This same point has been debated endlessly on other newsgroups (esp during last years' men's World Cup) with no better solutions. Congratulations USA and China for an exciting match!
threeover	posted 07-12-99 12:09 PM ET overrrrated
Tolls	posted 07-12-99 12:36 PM ET They should've had a replay next week in Beijing...
JohnIII	posted 07-12-99 01:44 PM ET Khan Singh: "American football at least has strategy. " Football DOES have strategy, just more spontaneous. John III
Khan Singh	posted 07-12-99 04:55 PM ET The trouble with football is the goalie. No matter how good your setup is or how competant your players, the goalie stops almost everything. Good tactics aren't rewarded by goals. Eliminate the goalie.
Spoe	posted 07-12-99 04:55 PM ET To break it down into gaming terms: American Football: TBS with RTS battle resolution Football: RTS(one of the more strategic ones; not one of the twitchfest ones)
Valtyr	posted 07-12-99 04:57 PM ET Yes, football (soccer) doesn't have all those (boooring) breaks between plays and no time-outs like the American game, so in-game strategy is more limited. Spontaneity and imagination are some of the greatest things about football (soccer). And aaarrrggh!!! I don't get to watch the Copa America (South American Men's Championship) either!
Koshko	posted 07-12-99 10:31 PM ET I watched most of the game. (Well, I was playing the computer while the game was on [and after], but I was listening to it). I like Soccer. I played it when I was young. Soccer probably won't ever be real popular in the US because watching it requires something the US lacks: An attention span. Even in the fastest paced and highest scoring soccer games, there are extended lulls where nothing much is visibly happening. Americans don't like that.
HolyWarrior	posted 07-13-99 01:08 AM ET The real reason that soccer will never become as popular as the other major sports is simple: Money. Advertising drives American sports, gentlemen. However, soccer has continuous action, so where will you put the commercials?
Trappist	posted 07-13-99 02:00 PM ET HolyWarrior- "soccer" has been the most popular team sport in the world for at least the last 100 years. You're probably right about the US angle though.
ceebs	posted 07-15-99 11:02 PM ET Wow TV without commercials , you could be just like Britain, Two chanels no comercials till you've seen it without, you cant appreciate how much better it is
Valtyr	posted 07-16-99 12:05 AM ET Yup, I've got four TV channels, two of them without commercials. Guess which ones I prefer to watch?