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4Horses posted 06-16-99 04:13 PM ET
We've had to endure alost 8 years of the Clintons....please....no more. Hillary wants to run for the Senate in NY. She said she was a lifelong Yankee's fan. A couple of years ago in Chicago she said that she has been a Cub's fan since she was a little girl. Make up my mind. Please, Bill and Hillary, just take your $200K/year and go back to Arkansas.
Does anyone know Hillary's win/loss record as a lawyer?
Valtyr posted 06-16-99 04:16 PM ET
Yes, being ambiguous on baseball preferences certainly is important when considering the merits of a politician.
Whatever...
walruskkkch posted 06-16-99 04:18 PM ET
I don't think Hillary argued cases, she was in the firm because Bill was governer. The only things she seemed to work on were things that got Webb Hubbell indicted. As a former New Yorker I say Let Her Run! Once she's receives the thrashing she deserves maybe we will be able to drive a stake into the hearts of both those liberal vampires from Arkansas.
Remaining, as always
Your faithful and obedient servant
"I can remember way back when a liberal was one who was generous with their own money."
Will Rogers
NoMercy posted 06-16-99 04:35 PM ET
God,
I hope she doesn't win. And I'm not even a Republican.
Philip McCauley posted 06-16-99 07:47 PM ET
She'll win. Being a celebrity makes you a citizen of NY in the minds of New Yorkers, even if you haven't lived there a week.
Of course, if she wins, it'll hurt Gore's chances for prez.
Frodo83 posted 06-16-99 08:17 PM ET
Why is that?
Philip McCauley posted 06-16-99 09:03 PM ET
Oh, the republicans will try to draw Gore down with connections to Clinton/Hillary. They'll point out 'bad' policies from the Clintons that Gore supported/supports, etc. I don't see it as much of a problem for him.
Wraith posted 06-16-99 09:54 PM ET
No problems? What about all those speaches Clinton has been giving recently where he repeatedly makes reference to unnecessary Gore?
Wraith
Live Faust, Die Jung
HolyWarrior posted 06-17-99 12:18 AM ET
If the Republicans lose every other race except the White House and the New York Senate race, they will count it as a victory.
Hillary doesn't have a chance in hell.
Gore " " " " " "
Bill Clinton has done more to destroy the Democrats than a hundred Newt Gingriches ever could.
Undersea Dragon posted 06-17-99 02:14 AM ET
One of the things that really pisses me off about this is that Hillary is using my tax dollars for her to run there. Because she is making appearances as "the first lady" and not "a candidate" she can charge the taxpayer for all her expenses.
As for the baseball thing, hey, what did you expect from a Clinton? Honesty?????
White_Cat posted 06-17-99 04:13 AM ET
Go home Hillary, your husband has brought another "friend" into the house.
Doctor Who posted 06-17-99 06:47 AM ET
Just wondering. What does the word "Liberal" imply to Americans ? It doesn't seem to mean the same as in Europe.
Wraith posted 06-17-99 07:58 AM ET
Liberal doesn't mean the same thing. In the US, a Liberal is someone on the "left" of our political spectrum (usually a Democrat... can't recall any liberal Republicans). Liberals tend to favor the view that government can Cure All Evils. They like big government programs and getting government controls into any area they can. They also favor redistibution of wealth programs (steal from the rich to give to the poor sort of things). They also seem to be rather into environmentalism and one-worldism.
Wraith
Hello, Agent Mulder, I hear you're looking for aliens. You can call me the Doctor
Undersea Dragon posted 06-17-99 03:12 PM ET
The word "liberal" as it applies to politics has changed meaning over time in America. The old fashioned "liberal" is todays libertarian. A libertarian view is that government should be minimal and unintrusive. Todays definition of a liberal is much different indeed. As Wraith points out modern liberals want a huge babysitting style government. There is still some common ground left, but it is shrinking. It used to be that liberals wanted personal freedoms, but that has been changing lately.
Doctor Who posted 06-18-99 08:59 AM ET
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I should use the word Libertarian instead, when I try to explain my political standpoint to americans in the future.
OhWell posted 06-22-99 07:35 AM ET
You almost didn�t have to worry about her. I heard on the news that she was playing with a land mine! She started to touch the fuse and someone yelled at her to put it down. I wonder if Bill gave it to her; �Here honey, see if you can figure out what this button does while I go over behind this block wall.�
Wraith: � reference to unnecessary Gore�. LOL
Hugo Rune posted 06-22-99 08:00 AM ET
Here in europe "liberal" is what you call "libetarian", while the people on the political left are usually socialists of some kind (Althouh there is a large number of mid-to-right "socialists" too...) or a member of a "green" party. Liberal also has a meaning in the context of economic policy, where a liberal defends Capitalism, "free" trade and "globalisation". The first is evil and the latter two myths, but what the heck.
Hugo Rune posted 06-22-99 08:02 AM ET
Most of your so-called "liberals" would be some sort of social democrats in europe. They believe in some sort of government-controlled free capitalism. What an Oxymoron!
4Horses posted 06-22-99 09:58 AM ET
There are more mines out there....so there's still hope.
DanS posted 06-22-99 01:55 PM ET
Libertarians = liberal in the U.S.? That's not the way I understand it. There are some libertarians on the extreme left and some on the extreme right. Liberal normally means someone who believes in an activist government.
Hugo Rune posted 06-22-99 01:59 PM ET
Well here in europe the term "libertarian" is used to describe anyone who wants personal freedom, on any side of the political spectrum. A liberal traditionally is someone who believes in equal rights for all and the right to individual propery, but since the advent of Neo-Liberalism they have become much more scary...
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Author	Topic: Hillary go home
4Horses	posted 06-16-99 04:13 PM ET We've had to endure alost 8 years of the Clintons....please....no more. Hillary wants to run for the Senate in NY. She said she was a lifelong Yankee's fan. A couple of years ago in Chicago she said that she has been a Cub's fan since she was a little girl. Make up my mind. Please, Bill and Hillary, just take your $200K/year and go back to Arkansas. Does anyone know Hillary's win/loss record as a lawyer?
Valtyr	posted 06-16-99 04:16 PM ET Yes, being ambiguous on baseball preferences certainly is important when considering the merits of a politician. Whatever...
walruskkkch	posted 06-16-99 04:18 PM ET I don't think Hillary argued cases, she was in the firm because Bill was governer. The only things she seemed to work on were things that got Webb Hubbell indicted. As a former New Yorker I say Let Her Run! Once she's receives the thrashing she deserves maybe we will be able to drive a stake into the hearts of both those liberal vampires from Arkansas. Remaining, as always Your faithful and obedient servant "I can remember way back when a liberal was one who was generous with their own money." Will Rogers
NoMercy	posted 06-16-99 04:35 PM ET God, I hope she doesn't win. And I'm not even a Republican.
Philip McCauley	posted 06-16-99 07:47 PM ET She'll win. Being a celebrity makes you a citizen of NY in the minds of New Yorkers, even if you haven't lived there a week. Of course, if she wins, it'll hurt Gore's chances for prez.
Frodo83	posted 06-16-99 08:17 PM ET Why is that?
Philip McCauley	posted 06-16-99 09:03 PM ET Oh, the republicans will try to draw Gore down with connections to Clinton/Hillary. They'll point out 'bad' policies from the Clintons that Gore supported/supports, etc. I don't see it as much of a problem for him.
Wraith	posted 06-16-99 09:54 PM ET No problems? What about all those speaches Clinton has been giving recently where he repeatedly makes reference to unnecessary Gore? Wraith Live Faust, Die Jung
HolyWarrior	posted 06-17-99 12:18 AM ET If the Republicans lose every other race except the White House and the New York Senate race, they will count it as a victory. Hillary doesn't have a chance in hell. Gore " " " " " " Bill Clinton has done more to destroy the Democrats than a hundred Newt Gingriches ever could.
Undersea Dragon	posted 06-17-99 02:14 AM ET One of the things that really pisses me off about this is that Hillary is using my tax dollars for her to run there. Because she is making appearances as "the first lady" and not "a candidate" she can charge the taxpayer for all her expenses. As for the baseball thing, hey, what did you expect from a Clinton? Honesty?????
White_Cat	posted 06-17-99 04:13 AM ET Go home Hillary, your husband has brought another "friend" into the house.
Doctor Who	posted 06-17-99 06:47 AM ET Just wondering. What does the word "Liberal" imply to Americans ? It doesn't seem to mean the same as in Europe.
Wraith	posted 06-17-99 07:58 AM ET Liberal doesn't mean the same thing. In the US, a Liberal is someone on the "left" of our political spectrum (usually a Democrat... can't recall any liberal Republicans). Liberals tend to favor the view that government can Cure All Evils. They like big government programs and getting government controls into any area they can. They also favor redistibution of wealth programs (steal from the rich to give to the poor sort of things). They also seem to be rather into environmentalism and one-worldism. Wraith Hello, Agent Mulder, I hear you're looking for aliens. You can call me the Doctor
Undersea Dragon	posted 06-17-99 03:12 PM ET The word "liberal" as it applies to politics has changed meaning over time in America. The old fashioned "liberal" is todays libertarian. A libertarian view is that government should be minimal and unintrusive. Todays definition of a liberal is much different indeed. As Wraith points out modern liberals want a huge babysitting style government. There is still some common ground left, but it is shrinking. It used to be that liberals wanted personal freedoms, but that has been changing lately.
Doctor Who	posted 06-18-99 08:59 AM ET Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I should use the word Libertarian instead, when I try to explain my political standpoint to americans in the future.
OhWell	posted 06-22-99 07:35 AM ET You almost didn�t have to worry about her. I heard on the news that she was playing with a land mine! She started to touch the fuse and someone yelled at her to put it down. I wonder if Bill gave it to her; �Here honey, see if you can figure out what this button does while I go over behind this block wall.� Wraith: � reference to unnecessary Gore�. LOL
Hugo Rune	posted 06-22-99 08:00 AM ET Here in europe "liberal" is what you call "libetarian", while the people on the political left are usually socialists of some kind (Althouh there is a large number of mid-to-right "socialists" too...) or a member of a "green" party. Liberal also has a meaning in the context of economic policy, where a liberal defends Capitalism, "free" trade and "globalisation". The first is evil and the latter two myths, but what the heck.
Hugo Rune	posted 06-22-99 08:02 AM ET Most of your so-called "liberals" would be some sort of social democrats in europe. They believe in some sort of government-controlled free capitalism. What an Oxymoron!
4Horses	posted 06-22-99 09:58 AM ET There are more mines out there....so there's still hope.
DanS	posted 06-22-99 01:55 PM ET Libertarians = liberal in the U.S.? That's not the way I understand it. There are some libertarians on the extreme left and some on the extreme right. Liberal normally means someone who believes in an activist government.
Hugo Rune	posted 06-22-99 01:59 PM ET Well here in europe the term "libertarian" is used to describe anyone who wants personal freedom, on any side of the political spectrum. A liberal traditionally is someone who believes in equal rights for all and the right to individual propery, but since the advent of Neo-Liberalism they have become much more scary...