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Octopus posted 05-14-99 03:00 AM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for Octopus   Click Here to Email Octopus  
I was looking through some old files on my hard drive, and found a link to The Old Test Forums. Somewhat timely, considering that I've been reminiscing about "the good old days" lately...

In there I found a thread I started called the Human Hive which I think I later reposted in the Factions forum as the Hive Philosophy. I remembered that I got a kick out of running the thread through the AltaVista translation engine to a foreign language, and then running their translator from the foreign language back to english on it. The combination of the translator doing strange things and my wonderful prose style in these Hive posts combine to produce humorous results (at least in my opinion).

I had posted the german version of this a few weeks ago, but now that I have the original again, we can check the full range of AltaVista's magic:

French and back to English again.
Italian and back to English again.
German and back to English again.
Spanish and back to again.
Portuguese and back to English again.

Octopus posted 05-14-99 03:03 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Octopus  Click Here to Email Octopus     
Okay, so I screwed up some links. Try these:

from Italian
from Spanish
from Portuguese

Octopus posted 05-14-99 03:17 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Octopus  Click Here to Email Octopus     
Curious, I seem to have dug up a post-duplicating nexus as well...
GaryD posted 05-14-99 06:43 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for GaryD    
That human hive piece really didn't generate any kind of response ? Gee.

The trouble with all that is that even if you could find a leader (Yang ?) who is mentally strong enough not to take advantage. The chances of this remaining the case for the next leader, and the one after that... becomes increasingly small. Hive members play a risky 'game' with their existence.

(Of course, were I in charge, it'd be quite safe ... trust me... )

GaryD posted 05-14-99 06:47 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for GaryD    
PS I think I'll still with human translators, provided they still to translating into their own language.
Octopus posted 05-14-99 10:36 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Octopus  Click Here to Email Octopus     
GaryD: "That human hive piece really didn't generate any kind of response ? Gee."

I think that the people defending the ideology of the Detractors were somewhat Hived out by that point -- it was the last big Hive piece in the old test forums. When the Hive moved its ministry of information to the Factions forum, we got the Hive Philosophy I, II, and III, and possibly some others. The first two were around 100 posts if memory serves... You can see some of the earlier Hive debate in the other threads I linked in Is it all downhill from here?.

Now, as to your concern about the Hive's government... First, the Hive is well aware that for posts of critical importance, only those individuals who have most fully embraced the Hive Philosophy of personal excellence and responsibility to society are qualified. Secondly, the Hive employs rejuvenation treatments to maximize the useful lifetime of critical individuals. We expect Chairman Yang to continue to direct our activities for several hundred years, at least.

(And if you don't buy that, I can do better).

GaryD posted 05-14-99 12:03 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for GaryD    
para 1 been there, done that (a bit anyyway)

para 2 I think you need much better

Victor Galis posted 05-14-99 06:03 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
Excellent, the Department of Applied NIMology will have a field day with this, all the ancient NIMist scriptures are found, including the following on Fnord:


DJ RRebel posted 12-21-98 02:44 AM ET
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DJ RRebel posted 12-21-98 03:06 AM ET
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Icky Icky Icky Wooooooombaaaaaaaaaa
Baldor posted 12-21-98 03:08 AM ET
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Note: Not Mine... it's a compilation of many people's works; of whom I am not able to name... if it's yours.. go ahead and claim it... ^_^

Fnord?


Fnord is evaporated herbal tea without
the herbs.

Fnord is that funny feeling you get when you reach for
the
Snickers bar and come back holding a slurpee.

Fnord is the
43 1/3rd state, next to Wyoming.
Fnord is this really, really tall
mountain.
Fnord is the reason boxes of condoms carry twelve
instead of ten.

Fnord is the blue stripes in the road that never
get painted.
Fnord is place where those socks vanish off to in the
laundry.
Fnord is an arcade game like Pacman without the little
dots.
Fnord is a little pufflike cloud you see at 5pm.


Fnord is the tool the dentist uses on unruly patients.
Fnord is the
blank paper that cassette labels are printed on.

Fnord is where the buses hide at night.
Fnord is the
empty pages at the end of the book.

Fnord is the screw that falls
from the car for no reason.
Fnord is why Burger King uses paper
instead of foam.
Fnord is the little green pebble in your shoe.

Fnord is the orange print in the yellow pages.


Fnord is a pickle
without the bumps. Fnord is why ducks eat trees.
Fnord is
toast without bread. Fnord is a venetian blind without the
slats.


Fnord is the lint in the navel of the mites that eat
the
lint in the navel of the mites that eat
the lint in Fnord's
navel.

Fnord is an apostrophe on drugs.
Fnord is the bucket where
they keep the unused serifs for H*lvetica.
Fnord is the gunk that
sticks to the inside of your car's fenders.
Fnord is the source of all
the zero bits in your computer.

Fnord is the echo of
silence.
Fnord is the parsley on the plate of life.

Fnord is the sales tax on happiness.
Fnord is the
preposition at the end of sixpence.

Fnord is the feeling in your
brain when you hold your breath too long.
Fnord is the reason
latent homosexuals stay latent.

Fnord is the donut hole.

Fnord is the whole donut.

Fnord is an annoying series of email
messages.
Fnord is the color only blind people can see.

Fnord is
the serial number on a box of
cereal.


Fnord is the Universe with decreasing entropy.

Fnord is a naked woman with herpes simplex 428.

Fnord is the yin without yang.
Fnord is a
pyrotumescent retrograde onyx obelisk.

Fnord is why lisp has so
many parentheses.
Fnord is the the four-leaf clover with a missing
leaf.

Fnord is double-jointed and has a cubic
spline.
Fnord never sleeps.

Fnord is the "een" in baleen whale.

Fnord is neither a particle nor a
wave.

Fnord is the space in between the pixels on your
screen.

Fnord is the guy that writes the Infiniti ads.
Fnord is the
nut in peanut butter and jelly.
Fnord is an antebellum flagellum
fella.

Fnord is a sentient vacuum cleaner.

Fnord is the
smallest number greater than zero.
Fnord lives in the empty space
above a decimal point.


Fnord is the odd-colored scale on a
dragon's back.
Fnord is the redundant coin slot on arcade
games.
Fnord was last seen in Omaha, Nebraska.

Fnord is the
founding father of the phrase "founding father".
Fnord is the
last bit of sand you can't get out of your shoe.
Fnord is Jesus's
speech advisor.
Fnord keeps a spare eyebrow in his pocket.

Fnord invented the green hubcap.
Fnord is why doctors ask you
to cough.

Fnord is the "ooo" in varooom of race cars.
Fnord uses
two bathtubs at once.
Fnord is the itch you can't scratch. Fnord is
the sound of one hand clapping.

You might see a fnord if you read this sentence again. Fnord is that one "ignosecond" of time just before you hit the DELETE key on the wrong document. Fnord is the "somewhere" in
"Somewhere a dog barked,". Fnord is the center of an onion. Fnord is the thought you were thinking when you think, "I don't know what I was thinking." Fnord is the joke God played on
man when he gave him a brain and a penis but only enough blood supply to use one at a time.


I cannot escape
them
No matter how I try
They wait for me everywhere
I cannot
pass them by.

Driving down the street
I see "Jesus Is Lord"
And
then immediately after
I hear the word "FNORD!"

Innocuous
sayings and parables
And on the evening news
I hear the word
"FNORD!"
And suddenly I'm confused

I sit alone in my room
And
I'm feeling rather bored
I turn on the tube and guess what
I hear the
word "FNORD!"

"Don't see the fnords and they won't eat
you"
That's what I've heard the wisemen say
But I can't get away
from those beasties
There's just no ****ing way.


Now, do you have a slight better understanding? No? Good.

DCA posted 12-21-98 04:01 AM ET
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Shame on you, Baldor, for giving away secrets like that to mere mortals.
Ah well, here's a little Eris story I stole:

I dreamed that I was walking down the beach with the Goddess. And I looked back and saw footprints in the sand.

But sometimes there were two pairs of footprints, and sometimes there was only one. And the times when there was only one
pair of footprints, those were my times of greatest trouble.

So I asked the Goddess, "Why, in my greatest need, did you abandon me?"

She replied, "I never left you. Those were the times when we both hopped on one foot." And lo, I was really embarassed for
bothering Her with such a stupid question.

DCA,
The Earth Will Shake.

Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 12-21-98 07:27 PM ET
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...& the point of this thread?? Sure I advocate off-topicness, but we must draw a line somewhere. Especially when it begins by DJ's infamous one-line double posts......
Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH

DHE_X2 posted 12-21-98 08:11 PM ET
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ehhhhhhh........
I'm outta my league here....
~DHE, DEHD HED EHD


Hugo Rune posted 05-15-99 07:30 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Hugo Rune  Click Here to Email Hugo Rune     
You know what? A much stranger place to search for old threads is the so-called "empty" forum. I have yet to figure out what this is, but I think it might just be a collection of threads from really old forums, including some from the Test forums, what I think might be the Site forum, Ideas for SMAC forums, etc. There is a thread about Episode 14 of the story, for gossakes!
Hugo Rune posted 05-15-99 07:36 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Hugo Rune  Click Here to Email Hugo Rune     
Actually, It's ALL the old site forum.
SnowFire posted 05-15-99 01:02 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowFire  Click Here to Email SnowFire     
Several of the detractors will say to you that the hive is " badly " because it "tramples on the right side of its members"

Yeah, I say that's pretty bad too. What about members with bad left lungs? It'd be especially tough on them.

"The hive EAST its members"

Perhaps did you mean EATS?

From the Forum Alpha D'Centauri. That IS funny stuff... and by the way, here's a copy of Ozymandias I keep... I have it in other langugaes sa well, but I think this is the best version.

"I satisfied to route leaves (to traveler) of an old track that said: " two extensive and legs trunkless of the stone support in the desert. Near them, in the sand, sunk half, lies broken of visage, that frown, and wrinkled lip, and scorn of the cold commando, says that its receiver of paper of the escultor those passions read which yet survive, printed in these things without life, the hand that of imitation and the heart that it fed. And in the socle these words appear -- " my name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Watch in my works, ye powerful, and the desperation! " Nothing next to the rest. Around the decay of that colossal ruin, limitless and it discovers the solitaire and the level sands stretch far far " - Shelley

What the heck? Here's another version, for those of you who don't want the stare of a cold commando (Brr! Pass the ammo.), from anglais to francais and back again.

I met a traveller of an ancient ground which indicated: " two vast and legs trunkless of the stone stand in the desert. close of them, on the sand, half descend, lie break of a face, of which the wrinkling of eyebrow, and the lip ruffled, and the snigger of command cold, known as that its well of sculptor these passion have read with it that however survive, press on these thing without life, the hand which them have scoff and the heart which have feed. And on the pedestal these words appear -- " my name is Ozymandias, king of the kings: Look on my work, ye powerful, and despair! " Nothing close to the remainders. Around the attenuation of this colossal wreck, unlimited and only discover and sands of level extend far far" - Shelley

Victor Galis posted 05-15-99 09:40 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
Wow, an "empty forum" with posts taht predate me (not that hard). Excellent... Please, find more forums!
eNo posted 05-15-99 10:24 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for eNo  Click Here to Email eNo     
What happened to DJ RRebel?

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