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cousLee posted 05-11-99 05:55 AM ET
this is the .txt included with the bug .sav:
PK have a base at 21,45. In this base there is 1 scout, and 1 artifact.
Activate the editor, attack the base. when you win, you get the message "artifact captured", but the artifact gets relocated to tile 24,52, where another PK unit is at.
this also happened to me in the SMAC tourney. I attacked a Hive base, captured an artifact, but it appeared half-way across the planet (in PK terr), twice. each time it reappeard in the same tile (I don't have the tile numbers).
This is bug needs to be fixed. If I capture an artifact, I should get the thing. It is not good to have it re-appear in another factions terr, as they would reap the benefit of the human player's battle, by being able to capture it. I had noticed this happening before, but assumed the message was wrong, and the artifact got destroyed. this is obviously not the case, it would appear when the artifact is tossed, it ends up belonging to another faction.
then when the second rover captures the base, all remaining PK units are destroyed, artifact included.
I think it would be great, if the captured artifact was tossed to your nearest base. but if not, just fixing this problem would be great.
This bug should be easy to re-create on other maps.
Interesting thing on this also (may help). using the rover at 24,44 to attack the base (you will need to edit the morale, otherwise it loses the battle, make elite), the artifact is tossed to tile 15,43, where 1 of my units is at.
It would appear the artifact gets tossed to the nearest unit away from the attacking unit (irregardless of the faction). I tried to see if removing the PK unit at 24,52 had any effect, the artifact could not be found afterwards (guess it was destroyed, even though it said i captured it). I tried again, this time I placed a Gaian unit directly opposite of the attacking unit, but several tiles away. again the artifact could not be found. I know that the last two tests may not help, but i am telling you so you don't repeat the same tests (unless you want to).
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Has anyone else noticed the missing artifact from battle (base attacks)
cousLee posted 05-11-99 05:57 AM ET
Forgot to mention, In the tourney, the artifact appeared in a tile that had a bunker. (also was on another continent)
Urban Ranger posted 05-11-99 07:08 AM ET
There's also an interesting feature in the game, that a combat unit has a certain chance to seize an alien artifact that moves by one of the squares surrounding that military unit (the "zone of control"). I had lost artifacts that way, which, fortunately, I was able to re-capture. I had also seized an artifact that way once. Fortunately, the computer player wasn't able to re-capture it .
This is not mentioned anywhere.
cousLee posted 05-11-99 07:47 AM ET
yea, if a lone artifact moves next to your unit, your unit captures it, but it does not move again into the tile your unit is in. This if fine, but the bug reported above it not. (It is kind of funny though, I picture the artifact being shot John Wayne style across the map)
Mergle posted 05-12-99 03:16 AM ET
Units capturing artifacts which move near them *is* in the manual (not with me so can't give you page ref.) I wasn't aware it was a chance - I thought it was certain. What bugs me is how stupid the AI is on this - I once had the Hive walk 3 artifacts past one of my bases in the same turn. Guess what happened. I've never seen an alien artifact in an AI base, so have no experience of CuusLee's problem.
BTW, the AI can't use artifact's worth a damn.
cousLee posted 05-12-99 05:12 AM ET
well, 3 times I have sent this, and the email keeps getting returned with fatal address errors. I hope the fix it anyway. I have an example to email them when and if i get a valid address for them.
drako posted 05-15-99 01:58 AM ET
Happened to me twice. Once the artifact did appear at my HQ despite the fact that I captured it on another continent. Second time wasnt so lucky, appeared in the middle of nowhere with one of my units. Real strange....
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Author	Topic: Captured Artifact?
cousLee	posted 05-11-99 05:55 AM ET this is the .txt included with the bug .sav: PK have a base at 21,45. In this base there is 1 scout, and 1 artifact. Activate the editor, attack the base. when you win, you get the message "artifact captured", but the artifact gets relocated to tile 24,52, where another PK unit is at. this also happened to me in the SMAC tourney. I attacked a Hive base, captured an artifact, but it appeared half-way across the planet (in PK terr), twice. each time it reappeard in the same tile (I don't have the tile numbers). This is bug needs to be fixed. If I capture an artifact, I should get the thing. It is not good to have it re-appear in another factions terr, as they would reap the benefit of the human player's battle, by being able to capture it. I had noticed this happening before, but assumed the message was wrong, and the artifact got destroyed. this is obviously not the case, it would appear when the artifact is tossed, it ends up belonging to another faction. then when the second rover captures the base, all remaining PK units are destroyed, artifact included. I think it would be great, if the captured artifact was tossed to your nearest base. but if not, just fixing this problem would be great. This bug should be easy to re-create on other maps. Interesting thing on this also (may help). using the rover at 24,44 to attack the base (you will need to edit the morale, otherwise it loses the battle, make elite), the artifact is tossed to tile 15,43, where 1 of my units is at. It would appear the artifact gets tossed to the nearest unit away from the attacking unit (irregardless of the faction). I tried to see if removing the PK unit at 24,52 had any effect, the artifact could not be found afterwards (guess it was destroyed, even though it said i captured it). I tried again, this time I placed a Gaian unit directly opposite of the attacking unit, but several tiles away. again the artifact could not be found. I know that the last two tests may not help, but i am telling you so you don't repeat the same tests (unless you want to). ** Has anyone else noticed the missing artifact from battle (base attacks)
cousLee	posted 05-11-99 05:57 AM ET Forgot to mention, In the tourney, the artifact appeared in a tile that had a bunker. (also was on another continent)
Urban Ranger	posted 05-11-99 07:08 AM ET There's also an interesting feature in the game, that a combat unit has a certain chance to seize an alien artifact that moves by one of the squares surrounding that military unit (the "zone of control"). I had lost artifacts that way, which, fortunately, I was able to re-capture. I had also seized an artifact that way once. Fortunately, the computer player wasn't able to re-capture it . This is not mentioned anywhere.
cousLee	posted 05-11-99 07:47 AM ET yea, if a lone artifact moves next to your unit, your unit captures it, but it does not move again into the tile your unit is in. This if fine, but the bug reported above it not. (It is kind of funny though, I picture the artifact being shot John Wayne style across the map)
Mergle	posted 05-12-99 03:16 AM ET Units capturing artifacts which move near them is in the manual (not with me so can't give you page ref.) I wasn't aware it was a chance - I thought it was certain. What bugs me is how stupid the AI is on this - I once had the Hive walk 3 artifacts past one of my bases in the same turn. Guess what happened. I've never seen an alien artifact in an AI base, so have no experience of CuusLee's problem. BTW, the AI can't use artifact's worth a damn.
cousLee	posted 05-12-99 05:12 AM ET well, 3 times I have sent this, and the email keeps getting returned with fatal address errors. I hope the fix it anyway. I have an example to email them when and if i get a valid address for them.
drako	posted 05-15-99 01:58 AM ET Happened to me twice. Once the artifact did appear at my HQ despite the fact that I captured it on another continent. Second time wasnt so lucky, appeared in the middle of nowhere with one of my units. Real strange....