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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 06:36:28 PM »
If this is the part of the story where they discover the Klingon ship, Sulu should be wearing a kimono...  :D



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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2013, 06:58:20 PM »
AAARGH!

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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2013, 07:16:23 PM »
He'd been off-duty when they found the Klingon ship, and didn't have time to change before being called to the Bridge (pesky battle stations!).  ;)

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2013, 07:34:28 PM »
Witness George Takei's remarks about chosing between rapier v. katanna in Naked Time, as told in To the Stars.  For what the opinion of the Japanese-American actor who played Sulu is worth, I daresay he'd rather Cher had put Sulu in a satin Hugh Hefner thing, just like anyone else.  I think it's a rather important point of sensitivity...


To the Stars was all kinds of awesome, BTW.

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2013, 07:52:12 PM »
But in the Valjiir universe Sulu isn't gay, he's bisexual. And at this point in the timeline, he's married to Jilla.

I read To the Stars. It was a really interesting book, especially the part about how his family was treated during WWII. That sort of thing happened in Canada, too, where Japanese-Canadians were rounded up and taken to semi-arid regions of interior British Columbia and told that's where they would live.

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 08:02:51 PM »
Who mentioned gay?  I just think it's racially tone-deaf, given the expressed wishes of someone in the position to judge that sort of thing, to break out the kimono.  I'm not confusing the actor with the character, but I think his opinion, as someone ethnically Japanese, that he'd rather Sulu was one of the guys, not all-Japanese, all the time, ought to be respected.  That is all.


The first third of the book, set in the camp, is just the best things ever.  I told my mother to read it on the strength of that.  (I clocked him as gay from the book, BTW, noticing way too many things not said.  I wish he'd rewrite the later two thirds and re-release, given that he can talk about some stuff now.  I think it really hurt the book...)

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2013, 08:11:30 PM »
Sorry, I misunderstood your post.

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2013, 08:15:07 PM »
Sorry if I came off huffy.  I have a strong belief there, but no hostility directed at anyone over an understandable oversight.  (There is art of Sulu in the kimono, and I had this argument with Sis days ago already.)

You should heard me howl when I watched the '09 Abomination, and abominable HaroldSulu made with the katanna...


And hey - remember the line about karate in the Futurama episode?  I suspect that gag may have been George's idea...

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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2013, 08:22:55 PM »
I've never seen Futurama.

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2013, 08:25:56 PM »
 :o










YouTube, and search for the episode where everyone still alive except Jimmy Dohan guested as themselves.  De Kelly was there anyway, but didn't have anything to say.  You must see it.  Must.

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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2013, 12:04:48 AM »
And isn't George Takei a Anglophile anyways? I'd think he'd be the type to sport a spiffing top hat, monocle and the like.


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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2013, 12:29:28 AM »
George is a Los Angelino (was in city government for years), not an anglophile worthy of notice, or I'd have heard that one before, I think.

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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2013, 04:44:47 PM »
Sulu has managed a quick-change and is back in uniform at this point:

"Before Spock could complete his sentence, the turbolift hissed twice in rapid succession; the first time disgorging Ruth, who hurried to the Science Station. When it opened once more, Sulu rushed in and went immediately to the Helm, more than a bit breathless considering Spock had seen him not ten minutes before in a kimono and the First Officer was now in uniform.

"Mr. Sulu, shields at maximum," Spock ordered, again turning the con to its forward position. "Arm phasers and photon torpedoes."

But, here he is the the kimono, whirling around to face Spock who he for a split-second mistakes for the person who is upsetting Jilla.

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Re: Valjiir
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2013, 04:59:49 PM »
There's a new story up at the site -- "Kiss the Cook" for which I am largely to blame.  It takes place between "Opera" (the new title for the story where Jade Han, Del, an Liling transfer to the Enterprise) an "At Center."  The inspiration came from a couple directions.  I'd done illustrations for both of the above and felt like there was more story to tell about Del coming to terms with Ruth's marriage and the beginnings of Sulu's affair with Li as well as the long-running flirtation between Han and Kirk.  Also, to add in a dash of the crazy, I got this idea about a cooking contest in my head.  In Anime, for some reason, the crazy cooking contest is a well-worn trope.  Even rather dark series like Kuroshitsuji will include a zany cooking contest episode.  I'm not sure why.  Even though, I usually find these episodes puzzling and goofy, I decided it would be fun to write a cooking contest for the Valjiir folks.  So  here it is, goofy and emo as all get out....

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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2013, 05:24:32 PM »
He'd been off-duty when they found the Klingon ship, and didn't have time to change before being called to the Bridge (pesky battle stations!).  ;)
My apologies - just reread that part of the story, and I see I hadn't read carefully enough the first time.  :-[


 

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