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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2020, 06:45:56 PM »
The Mrs. says she'd rather get the raw propaganda feed live and unedited, and then the fact check later that day. That way she'd know they were lying. To be fair, she knows that Trump is a pathological liar, and that Lyin' Mike Pence is so self righteous that you can't tell the difference between his lies and facts. But if the press conferences were edited, she wouldn't know if the information came from a biased press or propaganda.

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #106 on: March 21, 2020, 07:15:05 PM »
Again, the misinformation is negligent homicide in the context of the current disaster, and I regret that cutting the live feed would annoy the missus, but I stand firm that it should be cut.

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #107 on: March 21, 2020, 11:12:27 PM »
ANYone in TV news mentioning that the Pig lies when his lips move?  Who?

They are derelict in their duty to carry those mid-day pressers live, frankly.  They are news, but should be covered that afternoon, when fact-checking has taken place and the lies/unfacts can be covered - this would not be mere political journalism, so many lives being at stake.  They aid his negligent mass-homicide when they enable him w/ live coverage.  That guy at NBC IS a terrible journalist - they all are, only for the opposite reason than the Pig claims.

Well, this came pretty close-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1241347215026720769

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2020, 07:09:53 PM »
This elevated my mood today.
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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #109 on: March 23, 2020, 01:16:38 AM »
Looking at that killer does not elevate my mood in any way - but I only edited the bad language.

I do hate seeing a POS trashy publicity-hungry grifter dirtbag celebrity who has been on my Go Away list for 25 years absolutely everywhere, and am not posting so much to complain as hasten the page of the thread rolling over that much sooner.

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #110 on: March 23, 2020, 01:31:49 AM »
I figured you'd probably take it down anyway. Don't let it ruin your mood.

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #111 on: March 23, 2020, 01:59:59 AM »
I'll live.  Sooner the page rolls over the better, though.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2020, 11:22:40 PM »
I'm seeing a lot of antagonism to the lockdown strategy, people questioning whether it's economically worth the sacrifice for 1 or 2 % of people who are likely unproductive anyway.

Governor Cuomo said today that probably 80% will get it, but only one percent will die. I guess he has simply been forced to face facts, and that one of them is that it is impossible to protect the city of New York from a pandemic. Still, it sounds brutal.



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Now I see Trump is speaking again.  It's seems he's parted ways with Dr. Faucci .
He's hinting about lifting the quarantine. Maybe in as little as a week, maybe two, but it certainly won't last a couple of months.

Now he's talking about more death resulting from a poor economy than any virus. So there's that.
Guess they are going to call it "safer at home" rather than "shelter in place".  The vibe I'm getting now is that they are transitioning from "we're all in this together" to you're on your own. 

Just heard that we are locking down in Wisconsin effective Tuesday. So maybe we stand a chance of not overwhelming our healthcare system. 

Okay. Screw it. At this point the pandemic briefings are more politics and economics than medical. I didn't think it get to this so soon. My pandemic thread is open to politics henceforth, because the president can't sort it out.



Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #113 on: March 25, 2020, 03:13:52 AM »
I can remember when Republicans were "pro-life" and were terrified of "death panels" in the health care system.

Today more "conservatives" seem to be willing to sacrifice 1 or 2% of the populace for the sake of the economy.

So it's not about fiscal conservancy. It's not about conserving God's creation, or conserving people's lives, or conserving Constitutional principles.

I think it only amounts to conserving political power and personal wealth.

 

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2020, 04:58:02 AM »
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cnn-and-msnbc-staffers-wary-of-airing-trump-coronavirus-pressers

[On the one hand, their ratings have never been higher, and viewers’ appetites for the live sessions have shown no signs of dwindling. On the other hand, journalists and executives at MSNBC, CNN and the often Trump-friendly Fox News—which scored an impressive 6.2 million viewers for Sunday’s installment of the Trump show, according to Nielsen—are increasingly facing the likelihood that they are becoming an uncritical and unvetted transmission belt for propaganda and misinformation.]

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #115 on: March 27, 2020, 02:10:47 AM »
So, the USA now leads the world in Total cases, New cases/day, and Active cases.

To be fair, Trump frequently stated at his rallies "We're going to do so much winning. We're going to win until you're sick of winning!"   Literally.

By the way, are we great again yet?

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #116 on: March 27, 2020, 10:47:32 PM »
...I never believed the scene in Animal Farm when the sheep began chanting "Four legs good!  Two legs BETTER!" -Now I see it happen in real life, and it's truly depressing...

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #117 on: March 28, 2020, 12:44:22 AM »
...So I sez to Mom yesterday, I sez "When the other old church ladies say 'socialism' you say 'The New Deal'".

-It didn't really end the Depression -that was WWII turning up- but it kept a lot of people going until it was over.  THAT'S one of those rare things Big Government is good for; getting people over the hump in a crisis.
Several days ago, Mom watched some WPA depression-era pseudo-documentary about a black family in Georgia working hard and saving to buy better equipment and get ahead, w/ friendly neighbors who turned out to help in a big way when a fire broke out on the logging site.  We talked a fair bit about the New Deal values it pushed, not least at all the good neighbors/people doing the right thing in a crisis/positive collective action...

So, we were bitching about politics tonight when I came in from feeding the cats, especially a lot of dirtbaggery and hate-slash-lying on the right and the harm it causes, and I was quoting what she said last time after we voted in the primary for Bernie about it just being Christian for people to look out for each other --- and Mamma spread her arms wide and said "SOCIALISM!  We need a little socialism."  She was serious.

This a profoundly social-conservative church lady, folks, and maybe it means there's hope for old church ladies, maybe that we need quality ones like Mom, maybe that I'm just hella-persuasive.  Dunno, but it puts a smile in my heart.

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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #118 on: March 28, 2020, 01:31:42 AM »
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Re: Politics 2020
« Reply #119 on: March 28, 2020, 05:53:01 AM »
So, we were bitching about politics tonight when I came in from feeding the cats, especially a lot of dirtbaggery and hate-slash-lying on the right and the harm it causes, and I was quoting what she said last time after we voted in the primary for Bernie about it just being Christian for people to look out for each other --- and Mamma spread her arms wide and said "SOCIALISM!  We need a little socialism."  She was serious.

So, is there these days at times another station to see on TV? ;)

 

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