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Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6090 on: November 08, 2018, 02:38:39 PM »
For the uneducated, this is the cumulus.

http://www.chauvetdj.com/products/cumulus/


Essentially what they've done is take a regular fog machine (glycerin/water super heated and blasted out a pressurized nozzle, but a super high end version that can continually pump instead of cycle blast followed by warm up), but they blast it into a pure water vapor fog created by one of these. 

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Then they suck that out of the chamber with a case fan. 

The resulting mix is heavier, so stays low to the ground naturally, but dissipates quicker and can leave a surface wet.  Much better on the breathing conditions too. 

All of which really appeals to me. 


I don't know of anyone that's tried to home brew one of these yet...but I'm willing to give it a go. 

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6091 on: November 08, 2018, 03:51:30 PM »
Ok.  High end ultrasonic machine:  $90 

Though possible several smaller ones might do the job cheaper.

Fog machine, preferably continuous, but willing to test timered

$80-200 

$5 fan


I bet I could test one for ~$60.  Full production, I could build under $300. 



Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6092 on: November 08, 2018, 04:32:46 PM »
Found a chinese knockoff with internal pics. 

So, they are doubling up the high end atomizers in these, and adding very little fog machine. 

Two of THESE actually. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-HEAD-ULTRASONIC-MIST-MAKER-3500-5000ML-H-NEBULIZER-FOGGER-HUMIDIFIER-GREAT/391706069376?epid=895815522&hash=item5b33804980:g:QecAAOSwvEBbbUHf:rk:20:pf:0

Wonder if I can still find an FX100 machine...


Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6093 on: November 13, 2018, 08:11:02 PM »
So, slight snags on the above.  Most those devices come with 220 V transformers, which means I'd either need to buy my own transformer or mod some outlets at the house.  Neither are appealing. 

In slightly better news, the chinese knockoffs are half the price of the Chauvet device.  And frankly, given the performance of my last Chauvet, and the fraud they've been caught in with other machine specs, I trust the knockoffs just as much.  Still likely out of budget. 

Still debating the feasibility of a test run with some smaller misters. 

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6094 on: November 13, 2018, 08:17:00 PM »
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When generating a plurality of atomizer is set using the same container, each with a separate power supply need not connect a plurality of the nebulizer for use with a single power supply, and note the respective atomizer are mutually conductive housing, in order to prevent the work galvanic corrosion.
Can anyone make heads or tails of that? 

Offline E_T

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6095 on: November 13, 2018, 08:25:09 PM »
bad google translation??
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Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6096 on: November 13, 2018, 09:48:06 PM »
Right.  I need good translation.   Is it saying I can put multiple on one transformer or not? 




Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6097 on: November 13, 2018, 09:52:46 PM »
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When generating a plurality of atomizer is set using the same container, each with a separate power supply need not connect a plurality of the nebulizer for use with a single power supply, and note the respective atomizer are mutually conductive housing, in order to prevent the work galvanic corrosion.
Can anyone make heads or tails of that?


Perhaps- [Multiple atomizers operate in the same housing, each with a separate power supply. So no need to rig them for use on a single outlet or extension cord. Each atomizer uses the housing as an electrical return, reducing corrosion. ] ???

I'm speculating atomizer and nebulizer mean the same thing here. I could be wrong. So this fog machine is a "coordinated battery" in the artillery sense of the term, each firing in turn? All fed from one electrical plug?



Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6098 on: November 13, 2018, 10:11:13 PM »
Atomizer/nebulizer is same thing, yes. 

Kind of.  I'd be firing off 20 of them at the same time.  2 banks of 10, not in turn. 

It's basically saying the water tank needs to be conductive, and grounded, or the atomizers are going to do bad things.  What I'm unclear on is this line:

"each with a separate power supply need not connect a plurality of nebulizer for use with a single power supply" 

That could either be "You don't need to connect each to a separate power supply" or "you need to make sure not to connect more than one to a power supply" 

I'm about 75% sure it's the former, but that is some pretty bad engrish. 

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6099 on: November 13, 2018, 10:15:18 PM »
Another gem, but easily translated. 

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Do not damaged during installation level sensor switch, switch failure caused the water level to prevent runaway nebulizer. Level switch should stop after the damage, otherwise there will be further damaged dry atomized piece atomizer. At this point in order to use the required repairs by qualified service personnel after a good.

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The machine current voltage and temperature by less influence, because each nozzle current electronic automatic adjustment, the current increasing temperature will decrease (does not affect the amount of fog), to avoid serious power tube heat current increasing the vicious cycle and damage the atomizer

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6100 on: November 13, 2018, 11:08:54 PM »


"each with a sepearate power supply need not connect a plurality of nebulizer for use with a single power supply" 

That could either be "You don't need to connect each to a separate power supply" or "you need to make sure not to connect more than one to a power supply" 

I'm about 75% sure it's the former, but that is some pretty bad engrish.

Agreed.
I'm experimenting with Google translate, and came up with this, both in simplified and traditional Chinese.

 “Each has a separate power supply, no need to connect multiple nebulizers for use with a single power supply”

It occurs to me that maybe the basic question is "Who wrote this? Is it sales proclaiming features, or legal/customer service trying to issue rules? "

Is Talia still in that Chinese immersion program? Maybe she has a teacher that could make more sense of it.

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6101 on: November 14, 2018, 01:09:51 AM »
Oh, if I had the original chinese, it wouldn't be a problem. 

They definitely do NOT have separate power supplies.  I'm buying that separately on this particular one. 

Or just go get a business license maybe.  Then I could import one of the knockoffs for $400. 


I don't know if it's worth it to ask my brother for help there...

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6102 on: November 14, 2018, 06:14:41 PM »
Father and bifurcated pumpkin student's yard.  Always interesting to see how others take things. 

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Offline Geo

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6103 on: Yesterday at 07:12:22 PM »
This guy definitely has the house to display tombstones.
Don't you have (a) tree(s) on your property? This guy kinda hit it with the skeleton in the tree (for me). Too much light on it though, doesn't make it as spooky as it could be.

Offline Unorthodox

Re: Random crap with Uno.
« Reply #6104 on: Yesterday at 07:26:12 PM »
My back has trees.  I could see about getting something up in them, but they aren't a great shape for this kind of thing, and stubbornly hold their millions of leaves until mid-late November.  They are just barely starting to turn yellow this year. 

Here's a shot from 2010...



Now, we did trim some of the lower branches, added about a foot around the base of the tree, and the path goes a heck of a lot closer to these trees now, so it is certainly something to think about. 

 

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