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Title: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 03:54:40 AM
This is an attempt to make a mod akin to mars now in SMAC.  Not a true remake, but something like it with the "ideology, not nationality" feel of SMAC.

-Xenofungus will be replaced by "Animus Fluid" and spawn Replicators and arial Nanites.

-GUI change (possibly)

-more to come



     In the year 2058, the world will be SEVERLY overpopulated.  In an attempt to solve the problem, the UN will send robotic mirrors and vegetation seed pods created by Virgin Galactic to Mars to start the terraforming process.  By 2061, the poles have melted sucessfully, and the hybrid vegatation has started to take hold.  However, an asteroid pulverises Austrialia, throwing enough soil into the air to start a mini ice age.  A starship is rushed into construction.  As the final wars of Earth die down, the U.N. Frontier reaches Mars in 2066 after a 2 year voyage.  They discover that their terraforming has brought forth a black Animus Fluid that has covered part of the planet.


    When the last radio contact from Earth died out, the leaders on board the ship had other plans for the people onboard.  They agree to separate into several factions so the odds of survival increase.  As the ship breaks apart, they fly out to the planet below...

EDIT: sorry, soil into the air, not vice versa
 
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 04:17:28 AM
I love civII, but am not familiar with the mods and cannot, therefore, vote in the poll.

I think you've got an interesting notion.  Tell us more.

Need any help with the art/creative end?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 04:36:01 AM
I love civII, but am not familiar with the mods and cannot, therefore, vote in the poll.

I think you've got an interesting notion.  Tell us more.

Need any help with the art/creative end?

Why yes.  I have used the Union from the downloads page to replace the Spartans.

In your portaits file you have a gal called Aimie.  She would make a GREAT industrial type faction leader.

(if you dont know the mod, click SAYWHAT?)
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 04:48:29 AM
Screenshot 1
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 05:02:09 AM
That will make ariete very happy, I think - I told him it was good work.

Are you asking me to process Aimie into a leaderhead for you, or tell you how?  I'd rather teach a man to fish, although it might take me longer.

She's rather young, or do you have a child labor theme in mind?  Wouldn't take a lot to make her a little older, though - bigger nose, more cheekbones, mostly.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 05:31:02 AM
What's with the DL Matt?  We don't have a rule against so far, and you're hardly trying to sneak with that handle, so I'm just asking.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: MTC2 on October 27, 2012, 05:44:02 AM
whats a dl?

(please help! I changed my email account on Matt the Czar and it wont send a verification code!)
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 05:53:47 AM
Double Login, a second member account, something forbidden most places.  Probably will be here soon enough, but we're avoiding rules as long as it's not proven to us that we need any particular one. 

Matt seems to be off the member list now; I'm looking into it.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 05:57:43 AM
Okay; I would have found it sooner if I hadn't needed to come to this thread to find the Matt account - there's a button, and I reactivated you.  Log out and back in as Matt.

Keep the DL for now - it's publically outed, so no harm likely to be possible.  Your DL has one more post than most members, so I like him already.

Going to bed now, and sisko is having RL stuff, so try not to get in this fix again for another 8 or 9 hours.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: NewAgeOfPower on October 27, 2012, 06:07:41 AM
Rofl. Don't get your butt in trouble for the next few hours.

Roger wilco!
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Kilkakon on October 27, 2012, 06:37:21 AM
Do you need a hand with terrain modding? I've done two terrains before, one paradise one for LE and an unreleased one based off Strawberry Fields Forever, my own Civ2 mod...
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 06:51:34 AM
Do you need a hand with terrain modding? I've done two terrains before, one paradise one for LE and an unreleased one based off Strawberry Fields Forever, my own Civ2 mod...

I will have to see...
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 27, 2012, 04:44:57 PM
That will make ariete very happy, I think - I told him it was good work.

Are you asking me to process Aimie into a leaderhead for you, or tell you how?  I'd rather teach a man to fish, although it might take me longer.

She's rather young, or do you have a child labor theme in mind?  Wouldn't take a lot to make her a little older, though - bigger nose, more cheekbones, mostly.

Heck no!  Children working in factories is an atrocity!  If you could post an older version of her, I'll do the rest. 
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
That won't take all that long.  Going to lunch now, but look for something in an hour or two.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 06:43:46 PM
I think this is enough difference; before, she could have been as young as 12, though hard to say.  This makes her at least 18, I think.  A side-by-side comparison:

(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2486.0;attach=1882)   (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2486.0;attach=1893)

Of course, I didn't touch a big clue to youth, her tiny shoulders making her head look big like a little girl.  Something to try to conceal in the cropping.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 07:02:47 PM
...As soon as I posted that, I just HAD to go back and improve the head-shoulder proportions to give you more cropping leeway...

Compare these versions:

(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2486.0;attach=1893)  (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2486.0;attach=1894)

Barely touched the face this time, but she's a few more years older than the last try now.

You may praise me. :D
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 28, 2012, 01:17:16 AM
 ;excite;
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 01:27:44 AM
-ahem-   ;) You may praise me more than that. ;king
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 28, 2012, 01:56:55 AM
 O:-) here you go, BUncle


And now, presenting...



Aimie Reyton, leader of the Martians!

faction text file to come...
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 02:23:26 AM
No scan lines?  That's legitimate creative choice, but you do want consistency, and the Union has scan lines - I taught ariete how to do them.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 28, 2012, 03:07:44 AM
Well, some factions have better skype than others.   :D


EDIT: Well, I don't know the big deal with scan lines.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 28, 2012, 03:44:15 AM
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haven't gotten around to base names.
EDIT: and broodtrainer gal and scientist
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: NewAgeOfPower on October 28, 2012, 03:44:49 AM
I'll reupload my Demarchists with scanlines next week. Sorry for setting a bad example, BU ;p
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 28, 2012, 04:08:25 AM
Because you guys are awesome

Put this in your civ 2 SCENARIOS folder
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 30, 2012, 10:16:09 PM
Sorry to not have gotten to this sooner; there were technical difficulties when I got back from supper yesterday.

Suggestions:

1) look around Modding and have a look at Green's thread about a Mars mod "Non TCM 'Red Marble'"  - also "A spontaneous community faction project" a related thread where I think I linked GeoModder's old Mars scenario, which I think we have in Downloads.  You may want to do your own thing, or pool efforts at least partially/avoid duplication of effort.  Both are valid creative choices, but in either case you might ought to do your homework and know what's been done/is in the works.

2) For those of us unfamiliar with the C2 mod, even 2heads like me who are too lazy to download, you could be telling a lot more about your plans if you desire more kibbitzing.  Prime the pump with more ideas to help kick-start the brain...
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on October 30, 2012, 11:23:16 PM
IDEAS

idea 1: SPs.  The weather paradigm has to go.  The human genome has been sequenced.  A better ending than trancendence.  Maybe a giant warp gate a lá Stargate
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 30, 2012, 11:40:47 PM
So end with a sequel ending?  "Yet more frontiers opening before us"?  A little tricky to make as satisfactory as an ending ending, but it could work. 

"My God; it's full of Kurt Rusell."



On the pooling efforts possiblity?  With Kil and/or me helping on the terrain textures for both (all three, depending) I hope everyone can accept that they may have no choice but to share that part...
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Kilkakon on October 31, 2012, 07:18:53 AM
What version of Civ 2 is your scenario for?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: ariete on October 31, 2012, 04:54:57 PM
hi matt, i'm happy you like the Union and you consider it to use in your mod but you download the old version with old leaderhead (the nwest leaderhead i like more, go to watch it)
obviously txt are so primitive because my english is not so good when i must express my self and it need a correction
just one thing, the union, in my view, went to replace peacekeeper, federation armada, wich i can define how my jewelry or my horse battle, went to replace spartans
the choise is your
i'can't vote because i've not yet civ2 and i can't test it but i open graphics files ... so simple but so nice
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 31, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
Where would he find a newer version?  Got a link?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: ariete on October 31, 2012, 05:05:01 PM
sorry, you gotta reason uncle
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2002.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2002.0)
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2004.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2004.0)
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 31, 2012, 05:11:03 PM
Those are very, very good - but the older version he used is very good, too. ;b;
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Pickly on November 01, 2012, 03:36:38 AM
I played the Civ 4 Mars, now a tiny bit, is that similar to the Civ 2 version at all?  (Apart from involving Mars.)  Will probably get some ideas for terrain, technology, etc. changes that could be made for this mod idea once I have a better sense of the world and goals of the mod.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on December 27, 2012, 03:56:19 AM
I played the Civ 4 Mars, now a tiny bit, is that similar to the Civ 2 version at all?  (Apart from involving Mars.)  Will probably get some ideas for terrain, technology, etc. changes that could be made for this mod idea once I have a better sense of the world and goals of the mod.

The J did a good job, but I think he went a little overboard in some areas (afterworld units).

Updated world:
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Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 03:55:01 AM
Heres some music ive been considering 8)

Joel Nielsen Black Mesa Soundtrack Questionable Ethics 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtTmiYA5D4k#)

Joel Nielsen Black Mesa Soundtrack Unforeseen Consequences (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8fCMHSVhc#)

Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU#)   ^J/K

Joel Nielsen Black Mesa Soundtrack On a Rail 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8k2wA3r0Io#)
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 03:58:00 AM
also, how do i get rid of the boxes around the bases? theyve crashed this mod into a metaphorical brick wall  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ???


EDIT: btw I use Gimp
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 04:03:37 AM
Datalinks no no... they will be:


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Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 04:23:04 AM


third post this day!  :) 8) :danc:

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Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 05:06:15 AM
Would the gui shown in the pic in the smac media file called basescreen be availible and/ or created?  if so yay!
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 11, 2013, 05:09:57 AM
also, how do i get rid of the boxes around the bases? theyve crashed this mod into a metaphorical brick wall  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ???


EDIT: btw I use Gimp
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=29 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=29)
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 11, 2013, 05:19:27 AM
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Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 11, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
:D
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 12, 2013, 01:04:28 AM
I have decided. Mars terrain contest!! Who can come up withe best?

GUIDELINES:

Animus fluid: make it look like oil.

Water: blue-green with red hue.  If you can, not needed really

Farms, solar collectors, sensors, etc. whould do fine!



Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Kilkakon on February 12, 2013, 03:46:09 AM
The water isn't changable, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 12, 2013, 05:06:41 AM
The water fungus is changable, and you might could do something clever with that, but I believe you're right.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: gwillybj on February 12, 2013, 11:29:46 PM
The water is changeable, in system.txt, under #OCEANOFFSETS.
Be careful with that file. Have an unedited copy ready to restore.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 15, 2013, 12:07:08 AM

a complete, working file!  With scanlines!


YAY!
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 15, 2013, 12:36:55 AM
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent.

-But you're not quite finished yet; you need to add the faction colors and sign you work.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 15, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Updated the download with final release.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 15, 2013, 09:53:09 PM
Did you add the shields?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 15, 2013, 11:17:34 PM
?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 15, 2013, 11:18:58 PM
The bases have no shields in the shot you posted.

...And did you credit the fellow who suplied the leaderhead & bases?
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 15, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
in Mars now, there will be no shields,, just armor upgrades

actually i did, check
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 15, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
I spent the other day making .pngs of my custom faction collection for display in the AC Wiki - I wish more people had gone to the trouble to take and give credit in the main .pcx, especially since enough elements got recycled that it would be nice to know who did what.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 15, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
well i guess ill update the preview pic
Title: Brain Fart no. 146172905
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 16, 2013, 12:21:19 AM
I am coming up with a new faction concept

The Terran Federation:

These people, led by the captain of the Frontier, view themselves as the only legit faction, and are hellbent on reconnecting with Earth.  The polar oppisite of the Martians, and similar to  :danc:
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Kilkakon on February 16, 2013, 03:39:17 AM
You know, when you talk about the Terran Federation, with that forum avatar... I have trouble NOT thinking of Star Trek. XD
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 16, 2013, 04:21:52 AM
That isn't Star Trek.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 17, 2013, 02:36:55 AM
You know, when you talk about the Terran Federation, with that forum avatar... I have trouble NOT thinking of Star Trek. XD

Ypu're thinking of the Terran EMPIRE, not Federation.  Sorry
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Matt the Czar on February 17, 2013, 03:02:21 AM
that did happen to me too, though.  :D
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Kilkakon on February 19, 2013, 03:17:43 AM
Ah true, Terran Federation is Blakes' 7. :O
Title: Mars, Now: the third wave
Post by: Matt the Czar on April 02, 2013, 12:15:28 AM
I've decided to focus on individual aspects, starting with:

UNITS!


Types:
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Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Flux on January 10, 2015, 03:25:42 AM
I have to try this out.
I actually haven't played SMAC in about a month, I should get back into it and see why I joined this forum in the first place.
Title: Re: Mars, Now in SMAC
Post by: Blake00 on February 10, 2020, 01:53:15 PM
This is an attempt to make a mod akin to mars now in SMAC.  Not a true remake, but something like it with the "ideology, not nationality" feel of SMAC.

Is there a download link somewhere? Or was this abandoned?

Mars scenarios in Civ games are of great interest to me. Didn't know there was a SMAC one!!!