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Title: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
Hey BUncle. 
 :D
For those that don't know my I'm a very strange Halloween addict. 

Got myself invited to Transworld (http://www.haashow.com/), and am probably at least sending some items down with one of the vendors that wanted to spotlight my stuff. 

Got the test done on my tomb finally.  Apparantly it just doesn't work right without the lid.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q7KMWLUXfuI/Tzandvk87PI/AAAAAAAAMFU/jBiKnonflTw/s800/IMG_6048.JPG)

Which made for an encouraging test with the machine running.  No chiller built yet, which will help immensely. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CstflAsAe-Y/TzaneYGyY8I/AAAAAAAAMFs/3tVRCDV1xpM/s800/IMG_6051.JPG)

But, even without that, we're getting good broadcast out the base and no leakage on top.  Lots of work to do that is difficult to explain/understand so we'll leave it at that. 
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QaaMd0dVPM8/TzanevaqkxI/AAAAAAAAMF0/tnhB59CE1NI/s800/IMG_6052.JPG)

Order finally in for my foam coating, hopefully next week. 

This image verification crap to start a thread is rather annoying.  FYI. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2012, 09:27:15 PM
Hmm. the picture I had in my head was more bas relief on the outside - rather like the Tomb of Rassilon, or something Egyptian. Again, I'm thinking that if we lived in the same town, I'd be spending a lot of time in your garage helping.

I'll look into that captcha thing - I hadn't run into that for months until today, when I made a DL who's a regular member.  The capchas here are at least easy to read, but I'll poke around about that one - however, I'm not touching it without sisko's say-so unless I can find a way to only eliminate the requirement one member at a time.  I bet that's because of the feedbots, and other bot members.  I'll look into it, though.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 17, 2012, 10:55:55 PM
It will have bas-relief everywhere, I haven't started the decorating yet.  Just structure.  Since the foam coating I'm getting is also the glue for the bas-relief there was little point starting that yet. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2012, 11:13:40 PM
Ah.  The skeleton on top threw me, then.  The fog looks like it'll make a cool effect.

Did you have a catcha again this time?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
Okay, I finally tracked that captcha feature down, and it's only a first post thing - shouldn't come up again.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 01:42:42 AM
Yeah, I just threw that up there for a scale reference on the pics.  When you have 3 "Wallies" you do silly things with them on occasion.  For instance, if'n I build a second one, I can cut the length down by a foot.  (And I've already received generous offers to buy this one) Building a second to pay for the first is a real possibility, like I did with the Chimera last year. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 01:51:21 AM
What sort of money are we talking about?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 02:30:09 AM
$1500+  Depending on a couple things I may or may not be putting on this one. 

Considering we'll be at ~$400 in costs, and lord only knows how many hours, it's actually more reasonable than it sounds.  But, the offer is from a professional haunt in Las Vegas. 

To put it in perspective, the chiller alone I'm building inside this thing retails for $500. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 02:32:01 AM
Poo.  Your time is worth more than that, not that I'm advocating turning the offer down...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
Yeah, if this were retail it would be 3K+. 

However, I've long been of the mind that these things get WAY overpriced.  Like the Chimera I sold for only a few hundred last year when I could have gotten near a thousand if I really wanted to push it.   This is enough for me to get the licenses and tax id's to start charging more, and pay for the second one to be built while being low enough not to be illegal. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 02:40:57 AM
How strongly would you like to be doing this for a living instead of what you do?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 03:12:39 AM
I have no plans to make a living doing this, but supplimental income so I can do more elaborate stuff is a plus. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 03:16:10 AM
And in my showbiz days, I used to tell my audiences that the most sincere form of applause is a dollar.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
I try to make this as little a chore as possible, though. 

Business side of Halloween is not a pleasant schedule. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
I hear that - doing something you do for fun as job can suck all the joy out.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Well, I've done the halloween for business in the past.  It really becomes a drain around Christmas (as you're rushing your new designs for the Transworld show in March), so maybe when the kids move out I'll go back to that, until then I need the Christmas season as hassle free as possible. 


Anyhow...my parents have called a family meeting.  It's either to discuss my 'problems' or Grandma's dying. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 18, 2012, 11:30:05 PM
They don't believe in giving a sucker an even break, do they?  Not gonna let up until you fire them.  [shakes head]:(
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
Well, I have a problem now. 

Plan was to make my bas reliefs using Ovencraft clay.  It bakes at 350, but otherwise acts like a cone 5 clay.  It's how I made the skull a few years back. 

Well, it's no longer available locally, and clay is rather pricey to ship. 

Polymer clays (sculpey) and I don't mix. 

I wanted the ovencraft to make a rock hard original I could make molds of into the future in case I decide to make more of these, or people decide they want to buy the bas relief for their own project.

I could paper mache right on the tomb, but that kinda defeats the purpose of the whole mold idea.  I could use my plasticine clay but it would either limit my ability to make undercuts on the model (to use a plaster mold) or bite the bullet and get some $ilicone molding compound. 

Any air-dry clays you can recommend?  Most the ones I know suck. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
I DO mix with Sculpey, though it's far more expensive than I would use for something that big.

If it was me, I guess I'd rough out an original in plaster over wadded newpaper, carve/detail it into what I wanted, then make the mold of latex with a substantial plaster gauze backing.  You'll have a better idea of what materials to work in than I, but the master mold original thingy doesn't have to be durable, as long as you get a good strong mold off it.  If you want more in the future, you can always go through a second generation - and maybe customize those while you're at it.  You might want to keep a first generation foam impression squirreled away where it wouldn't take wear from handling, then, or even cast a really solid impression out of that dense plaster you have, for future use.

An advantage of not even trying to keep the original is storage; the molds ought to nest into each other a bit, while the original or positive castings would take up a lot more space.

...

I've been thinking about the Tomb of Rassilon from The Five Doctors ever since I mentioned it; you MUST put a timelord on your tomb - the skullcap and big round space collar would make a mighty fine wizard...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 04:31:13 PM
The what from the where, has a who on it? 

 ???


Google tells me it's Dr Who...and has some crappy images of an undersized recumbent effigy (or the tomb was just made way too big, hard to tell, but it's out of scale) on a tomb with some non-descript bas relief (which is also out of scale). 

These obelisk things might fit into the area, however.  http://media.photobucket.com/image/Tomb%20of%20Rassilon/overlord_awc/Dr%20Who/Tower06.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/Tomb%20of%20Rassilon/overlord_awc/Dr%20Who/Tower06.jpg)



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 04:42:44 PM
I'm surprized you don't know your Dr. Who better-

(http://www.drwhofigures.co.uk/custom2/2/confirmed/morethanatimelordtombrassilon.jpg)

Check those four busts on the side; the circular pattern is actually their awesomely cheesy timelord space collars, though the skullcaps don't show much in this shot.  That's definitely a fan-built model with a doll on top, I'd say.

Just a whim, anyway - but one I'd indulge if it was my project.  It would be a thrill for those as recognized what it was, and still look cool for those who don't.  Just one little Time Lord, not the whole thing, mind you.

Those obelisk thingies do look great for you purposes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
Wow, that's not even bas relief, it's a table with a doll on top and a printed skirt. 


I'm still going over what exactly I want to do to the bas relief on the thing.  I still like the concept of various symbols of death through history the best. 

Basically because Medusa was awful fun on Alec-zander, and certainly fits.

Quote
Medusa's head is both a mirror and a mask. It is the mirror of collective violence which leaves the Devil's mark on the individual, as well as being the image of death for those who look at it. Both these themes -- violence rendered sacred and death by petrifaction

However, I just can't come up with enough that interest me at present. 

I could very well fall into my standard of making sigils as an inside joke, and probably will SOMEWHERE on the thing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
A medusa sounds like a fitting image, though I imagine it'd be hard to sculpt and much harder to remove from cast.  Depends on how you handle the snakes.

Wow, that's not even bas relief, it's a table with a doll on top and a printed skirt.
It's a crappy fan model of something that did have bas relief, (I thought, at least) but which doesn't seem to have any decent pictures on the webs.  The concept, man; focus on the concept. ;D

(http://www.timey-wimey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1TimeLordTennant.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/Prydonian.jpg/200px-Prydonian.jpg)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Looks like a bad Ming knockoff to be honest.  Which was probably the point.  Merlin from Excalibur also shares the general idea, however.  I see your point.   

The seal of rassilon, however, would fit well if I go the sigil route. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 06:49:05 PM
It was a cheesy early-60s knockoff design for a low-buget children's show with, no doubt, not a lot of thought put to it - but that's exactly what I find so very charming about it.  Doubles as a wizard and an easter egg for geeks.  I remembered seeing it as bas reliefs on something vaguely along the lines you want, and the idea of the nod to that grew on me.

There's actually a LOT of pretty neat iconology associated with Rassilon, if you wanted to poke around - he must have been the Donald Trump of Time Lords, because everything but the Kitchen Sink of Rassilon seems to be floating around, and lots of it had nice sigils attached, ISTR.



More seriously, there's probably lots of death-themed african masks out there, and I'm sure Aztec "gargoyles" were one of the first things you thought about - as perhaps, were european gargoyles.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 07:40:33 PM
Hm.  Africa. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rSTUp_SOWIo/T0KdoWFp-7I/AAAAAAAAMHo/mdzXY7sZX3o/s800/%2521Bg%252CzrJw%25212k%257E%2524%2528KGrHqMOKiUErzGbPL%252CQBLFPueWMs%2521%257E%257E_35.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b04HiJfvwqI/TBipqGRTnHI/AAAAAAAAHJM/tP2PFygq7r8/s800/IMG_0968.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LT7mNg-E3b4/TPREvNINeFI/AAAAAAAAITQ/hTdMH6j-920/s800/IMG_2954.JPG)

The trouble with African death masks is it almost requires a commitment to doing the whole thing in that style.  Not that that is a bad thing. 

A whole area dedicated to that, bring back my garden of skulls full force, appropriate surroundings...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XYesHR_J6qo/TPREsHqaBtI/AAAAAAAAITA/QUA7tJlgn9g/s800/IMG_2951.JPG)

And, yes, bringing back my Aztec inspired stella to serve as corner pieces on this was among my first thoughts. 

(http://://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hIXK7PoRScg/S-Y5I3k7ZRI/AAAAAAAAGNU/G8lB9EkULo0/s800/IMG_5089.JPG)

I liked them, am sad they got destroyed prior to use, still want to do that spiderwoman theme, and would make this an easy piece to transition into that.



HOWEVER.  My end game on this project started different than my normal.  I was specifically doing this as mainstream as possible.  The further I get, the more I want to fight that idea.  I don't do cemeteries, this thing is for my kids according to their more mainstream desires, plus it will sell better.  I wasn't planning on keeping it after this year/doing it again.  But the further we get, the more it grows on me.   

Frankly, the easy route is rather tempting. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EZNmaN9RF6U/S4p35BKYHSI/AAAAAAAAF4k/kpjMnOcn0Tk/s800/IMG_0458.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
Easy is good - I think you can make a fine tomb without turning the creepy up to 11.  I assume you're thinking score some Catholic backyard-type figures about knee-high and make half-casts?  That would totally work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
That's precisely the thought. 


However, searching for such statues hooked me on the tomb of Phillip the Bold, and figures known as Les Pleurant. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_vApM5cEI0s/T0KjcLkcN7I/AAAAAAAAMIU/c4sJe59hIak/s800/sluter1.jpg)

"The mourners". 

Not only were they customary on such tombs (in France anyway), but they were often faceless, and something I can do in my sleep with a little monster mud. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kgSeGG1Ybno/T0Kjb8wsI7I/AAAAAAAAMIM/tgM_BTrMYIc/s800/sluter-pleurant.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
Something fairly traditional, either free-form or that French tableu style, if you want to be more ambitious, strikes me as something beautiful and resonant with the general public that would be worth doing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
Here's a rather busy one, but it's tough to find anything good among all the pictures of Petra and Laura Croft...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Cardinal_cisneros'_tomb.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 08:10:11 PM
Of course, this is the wrong style and scale, but its a Michelangelo.
(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/michelangelo-sculptures-35.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 08:12:09 PM
It think this is way too plain...
(http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webingres/bedfordshire/vlib/0.digitised_resources/0.images/chalgrave_glass_church_tomb.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
This, I would never, ever, even try to do - it's very beautiful, but the beauty is in the inhuman precision and detail of the decoration...  -Also because half of it would break off the first time someone breathed near it.
(http://www.sights-and-culture.com/Portugal/Alcobaca-monastery-tomb-Ines-516.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 09:09:18 PM
I do like the...are those people? on the bottom though.  That would work very well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
It's little angels surrounding the recumbant departed.  That's a crap snapshot of a very finely-crafted tomb that surely was actually set up level.

...

Aha!  I figured out how to get a lot less Angelna Jolie hits, and a lot more of the style of tomb at issue.

(http://www.norwich-churches.org/monuments/Francis%20Bacon/images/Chest-tomb.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
A jewelry box, actually:
(http://www.the9thgate.com/Slumbering%20Dragon's%20Tomb%20Box.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
I think this one is a real possibility to model on.  Fewer/largers figures, and the effigy WILL be a transi, but otherwise, I like it. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j2fS3_Qb4xY/T0K4Gg5LmWI/AAAAAAAAMIw/CuDmuwtNreA/s800/4826712972_8d37fb57e0_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
A jewelry box, actually:
(http://www.the9thgate.com/Slumbering%20Dragon's%20Tomb%20Box.jpg)


Ooo, I want that box. 

Damn, that site is closed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
You would.  Google "box tomb" and there are a lot of hits for that artist...

So you like the notion of the recessed, arched-and columned, niches for the side figures?  Nice to look at, but I don't know about how easy to do...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 09:23:35 PM
-Also, the model for the Tomb Raider 94, or Tomb Raider Underworld box and other art looked incredibly like Ali.  It's creeping me out a lot more than looking at all those tombs does.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 09:27:51 PM
Butt-load of Uno-friendly figurines and jewelry boxes for sale here: http://gotfreeshipping.com/category/Collectibles-Fantasy-Mythical-Magic-Gargoyles_13640 (http://gotfreeshipping.com/category/Collectibles-Fantasy-Mythical-Magic-Gargoyles_13640)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2012, 09:58:16 PM
You would.  Google "box tomb" and there are a lot of hits for that artist...

So you like the notion of the recessed, arched-and columned, niches for the side figures?  Nice to look at, but I don't know about how easy to do...

Yeah arches could be problematic.  I could do squared recesses easily enough though, and spruce them up with some nice onlays or somthing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 10:03:43 PM
I guess you could cheat with something wood, or cut off a catholic yard shrine, if you gave up on a solid original.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 20, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
...Furniture parts not being that hard to come by, and you could make one column-and-arch niche mold and pour it in plaster several times to make the original for the whole sides that you put the relief figures in...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 12:48:52 AM
Going to do a test to see if I can cast foam in a plaster mold.  Can't find any info yea or nay. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 12:55:11 AM
I imagine it would call for some sort of slick coating inside the mold more than some other more substantial materials, but just guessing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 03:01:59 AM
That's my theory.  You're supposed to coat a silicone mold with dish soap for foam casting, I don't see any real reason it wouldn't work in plaster. 

Anyway, did a little skull motif overlay design and have the plaster setting now.  Probably be able to try a cast tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 03:16:13 AM
Have your ideas come together more, then?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 03:29:29 AM
I just needed to play with something.  I've got too much testing to do to make concrete plans yet.  Waiting on the foam coating so I can know it's properties before I start slapping things on. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 03:31:02 AM
Just got tracking saying it'll be here Wed.   ;D

Just had to blow off some family crap and work on something tonight.  Even if it turns out to be nothing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 03:35:37 AM
Would this be that family meeting you mentioned?

...

Are you planning to more try to cast sides in one piece, or glue elements toether?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 03:48:17 AM
Yeah...it's not worth going into, just another 'we all need to rally around' my older brother speech, which prompted my searching for the clay yesterday, and here we are.

I'm thinking I screwed up and shouldn't have put my walls on yet, but going to glue everything on separately. 

The best way to explain the plan is to look at the frame.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v91rcGrum7M/TyCOiICHOaI/AAAAAAAALSE/XEDyFS9t-aA/s800/IMG_6041%255B1%255D.JPG)

Basically, the uprights are how I intend to section my tomb off, and will have a column on the outside over top of each of them, for 3 figures on each side and one at either end.  I could arch that span, but it would make the figures smaller, so I got to figure that out. 

The next step is to play with this foam coating and build the fog chiller once I get a handle on how it works/which kind of coating I'm using.  (I'm basically getting a sample pack.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 04:10:24 AM
So a column on each corner and two in between.  And haven't decided what figures to put between them, but it calls for eight if one goes on each end and each is unique.  And of course, a full-sized one recumbant on top.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 04:19:50 AM
Oh, I'm fairly sure I'm doing the pleurants at this point.  All faceless/face covered.  Subtle, main stream, fitting, and non-religious.  Plus I find they are quite creepy in their own right, myself.  At least the faceless variety. 

Now, what else I decide to do to this thing, who knows. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 04:35:04 AM
I will be very interested in seeing this in progress.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
Anything to report today?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
I just bought more rigid wrap.  Otherwise still at work. 

Going to be launching a new skeleton tutorial focused on being even cheaper and (more importantly) easier than Bob ($20 paper mache) soonish.  (maybe this week/end)  He'll need a name. 

The plaster mold looked good this morning. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Is rigid wrap the same as plaster guaze?

Be a good SMACer/CIVillian and name the skeleton Sid, I say.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 07:54:49 PM
Yeah, it's just the brand of the plaster wrap that's in Michaels.  I use the weekly coupons to buy it at half price. 

I don't know,  "Rigor the rigid wrap skeleton" has a ring to it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 08:05:08 PM
Sid.


There HAS to be a better way than those overpriced sheets they sell at Michaels, even at half-off.  I know there's stuff it's used in the construction industry - (I've worked contruction a bit, and never saw it used, but but it was around sometimes and I imagine it was for free-form molds when a little cement was needed to be added on corners or something) - getting it in biggish rolls through construction supply places ought to be a guaranteed savings.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 21, 2012, 08:46:38 PM
$5 for 8" wide plaster wrap 15' long. 

The medical stuff I can see is 3 times as expensive. 

The only thing that approaches the cost effectiveness is buying a different brand (which only comes 6" wide) by the case, and it's the same price after shipping.  Even driving down to SLC and getting it from FX supply isn't as cost effective. 

Some medical stuff is measured by weight, and I don't have a reasonable means of cost comparison. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 21, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
I think it's very safe to assume anything medical will automatically gouge you 3-10 times the price of the same thing from a non-medical source, and anything you get at a craft store instead of a hardware store is almost as bad, very often.  Specialty supply venues almost always cost more than general ones.  Admittedly, the rolls I saw on jobsites were roughly 4'' wide, and I haven't the foggiest of what they cost, but they were big rolls a good foot across, and I do recommend you do some cursory research; betcha 10 minutes googling, oh, Plaster Gauze construction (or hardware) will save you considerable money if you go through very much of the stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2012, 01:36:57 AM
Ok, dish soap doesn't make a great release for a plaster mold and foam.

Stuck a little too much leading to some tearing and deformation on removal.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dRjP62ull_A/T0RFYjer38I/AAAAAAAAMJ4/kX3tvMOKY4Y/s800/IMG_6056%255B1%255D.JPG)

Also didn't' skin well, causing it to lose a lot of details, but makes for a very good 'worn' look. 
I think I need to add some compression for the expanding foam to do that better, next need to test cooking spray, but have some cleaning of the mold to do first. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2012, 01:43:20 AM
Hmm.  A silicon mold is already very slick, so it doesn't need much of a mold release - plaster is porous, and should need something that will soak into the pores and leave a slick finish, I would guess for foam to come out smoothly...  Shellac?  Cut pretty thin, and two coats, I'd think.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2012, 01:56:38 AM
Well, I think my problem is that plaster is for absorption molds, wicking moisture out of whatever.  Foam is cured by moisture.

Maybe if I soaked the plaster in water first, it would cure the foam contacting it quicker, thus making a skin? 

There's always the solution of doing a slush coat in latex to hold the details then backfilling with foam. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2012, 02:01:11 AM
That might work real well with the water-soaking, but of course it makes the plaster fragile, so be careful with the mold.  I do thin latex molds with a plaster backing a lot, and I think that's a good idea - you do have to be careful about keeping it situated in the plaster exactly right, of course, and I don't know how latex might interact with the plastic of the foam.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2012, 02:25:41 AM
Oh the foam sticks.  I mistakenly tried to cast a foam skull in a latex mold a few years ago. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2012, 02:34:57 AM
The soap coating doesn't fix that with latex?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2012, 01:49:53 PM
The resultant mess was quite a sight, actually.  Expanding foam, mind you.  At the open end of the skull the foam skinned over and sealed the thing tight as it latched onto the uncoated outside of the mold, the inside was then sealed off and expanding, this caused the mold to swell like a balloon, breaking the mother mold of plaster.  Still, it shrank back down to normal, and I figured if I just cut into the thing to get past the part it sealed, it would be fine underneath.  So I cut and started pulling...

The pressure had reverted the inside of the foam to a liquid, and only a skinned layer inside the mold.  It tore, and out sprayed liquid foam now expanding as it hit the moisture in the air. 

Took a week to get it all off my hands. 

That was about 6 years ago, and this was the first thing I've done with foam since. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
Wow.

I'd guess cooking spray might work better with latex, though it would be a little hard on it, I think.  Sounds like you'd definitely waqnt to coat the outside, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 23, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
Hey, forum moved....and I got a horror tag now.  Are those things I could put on a thread, or just something you guys do? 


Anywho, got my foam coating in last night.  It's in powder form, and deceptively HEAVY.  I don't know what this stuff is, but it sure ways a lot by volume. 

So, I have the powder foam coat, which can be mixed with water, with one of the additives (which I also got a sample of each), or with paint, all having varying degrees on the strength and rigidity of the final product.  LOTS of playing around to be done this weekend. 

Tomorrow is also the 'we all need to band together with my brother' day.  He's got a big event in downtown Ogden (not the safest place in the world), so I'll at least make an appearance.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: sisko on February 23, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
Hey, forum moved....and I got a horror tag now.  Are those things I could put on a thread, or just something you guys do?
you can change that by yourself with one of the available icons. of course, if the icon you chose has nothing to do with the thread, someone will take care of it.
also if you want a custom one, you'll have to ask Buncle, our resident artist.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2012, 02:18:15 PM
It is true that I'm an artist who lives here and would be glad to hook you up.

I'm on the fence about the forum move - I see the logic of grouping it with Community, but I'm used to having OT at the bottom...


This project has grown on me a lot, and I'll be very interested to see what you can work out with the foam.  PICS!  (When you have them.)


You've definitely got your heart in the right place on the family stuff - you only get one, however crapulent.  I mean, putting up with more for the sake of the kids than you would on your own is the right thing to do.  Are there any cousins, perchance?  A child should have cousins, and get to see them often.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: sisko on February 23, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
also if you want a custom one, you'll have to ask Buncle, our resident artist.
i gues 'CREEPY' is the apropiate word for your thread
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2012, 03:03:23 PM
"Creepy Art & Creepy Family" would be too long...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: sisko on February 23, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
i gues 'CREEPY' is the apropiate word for your thread
fixed that!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
The horror!  The horror!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
Hm, I had a couple posts get eaten by the ether...


 ???


Got 6 coating tests drying now.  Interesting stuff.  Will be able to stress test them Saturday, then it's either back to the drawing board or onward. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 02:25:02 AM
Six?  What coatings did you try?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 03:11:41 AM
It's a "system". 

The base is a powder.  It can be mixed with water to varying consistencies, or with different additives they sell. 

So, I tried it thick and thin with the water, both different additives, one smelled/looked/acted suspiciously like ModPodge, so I tried that, and I mixed some into paint, which was listed as an option on their instructions as well. 

http://hotwirefoamfactory.com/-025-Foam-Coat-3lbs.html (http://hotwirefoamfactory.com/-025-Foam-Coat-3lbs.html)


Personally, the paint went on easiest, and would be the simplest going forward.  I'm hoping it holds up under stress testing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 03:15:16 AM
wtf?  testing....

suspicious
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 03:17:26 AM
Ok, what the hell is going on.

I find it highly dubious I'm unable to type the synonym for dubious, mistrustful, wary....



Wow...ok, I get it...that's one heck of a curse filter you got there. 

 su S P I C ious   is not a valid word because it contains an ethnic slur...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 03:25:55 AM
Sorry; I know how to fix that, but it'll take a few minutes to add spaces to the end of all the short ones -have to redo it every time we edit the list- or we'd be back to not being able to say night or constitution.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 03:35:19 AM
Okay, done until the next time someone finds a new one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
Hm, can tell you the paint is probably the worst performer of the tests, just by poking them this morning.   :(  At least at the 50% mixture they suggest.  Will retry with whichever performs best, and add just enough paint to get a base color, see how that holds up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
Oh, wait...

Seems there's a discrepency between their online directions and the printed directions sent to me (have them in front of me right now as well and confirmed).  The printed directions just say mix with 'any high quality paint'...online it specifies 'any high quality ACRYLIC paint'.  Gotta redo that one, I used latex. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 02:05:14 PM
What sort of colors are you going for?  I would imagine something in old stone?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 02:21:19 PM
Yeah, something on the darker side of 'stone' color so that I can drybrush a lighter shade on top to bring out the details. 

This stuff is gritty as well, almost a sandstone texture to it, which is good for the overall look as well.  (not that you'll notice at night with it lit and fogging and whatnot, but I will know)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 05:02:39 PM
Hm, not a happy kind of business meeting this morning... :(  Gonna be another 'fun' year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 05:27:27 PM
This is job-related?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 07:09:47 PM
Yep.  Last couple years haven't been good.  Had to move companies last year to stay employed, it's not looking like that was a long term solution. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
I noticed you seemed to have time on your hands lately...  Any plans?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Oh, I'm just not business traveling like I was last year.  Now, come July, who knows.  And even bigger question come October. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
Are contracts up for renewal then?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 07:56:38 PM
Yes, and the govt is declaring a small business has to be awarded this contract, we can't even compete it.  But it's confusing since the statement also requires experience in the rather particular field, which no one else has, certainly not a small business.  There might be some smoke and mirrors BS go on and I might be shuffled off to another new company whilst still working here, or who knows. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
Ah; not knowing where you'll be working next year is always great fun.  Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 24, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Hmmm....new trailer for bound to be awful movie...

http://youtu.be/4tn5WLZWgbY (http://youtu.be/4tn5WLZWgbY)


Seems awful lot like a remake of the classic

http://youtu.be/yQkngCMZUGU (http://youtu.be/yQkngCMZUGU)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 24, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
Decent cover of the song, though.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 25, 2012, 04:12:10 AM
Yay, brother was civil again tonight. 

Parents, not so much. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 25, 2012, 04:13:04 AM
Is it just me or is the reply box really fubar?  Like extremely wide. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 25, 2012, 04:43:59 AM
[Ctrl]F5.  Refreshing the cache should fix it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 26, 2012, 05:09:50 AM
Testing showed a clear winner that's waterproof and very tough.  I'm convinced more than ever their 'Bounce' is simply mod podge at twice the price.  Another shopping trip this evening for more half price plaster, I begin the Transi tomorrow.  Might even get to some layout work on the tomb as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 26, 2012, 05:11:19 AM
I'm going to have to install the :excited: smilie.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 26, 2012, 03:16:26 PM
Had a nasty thought on the coatings during the night, doing one last test, but going to go forward with the Transi. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 26, 2012, 03:25:59 PM
You?  A nasty thought? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 26, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
Yeah, apparently it's a huge waste of money.   >:(


The 2 mixtures that performed the best were the ones mixed with their "bounce" and Mod Podge (which I believe is all "bounce" is). 

Well, on a whim, I did a coating of just Mod Podge, and it's better than any of them.  So, I'm going to go with my Alec-zander template and decopage some cheese cloth onto the tomb with mod podge as a protective coat, then seal it with some masonry sealer paint. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 26, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Are you talking about basically shellaced cloth instead of foam for the decoration, then?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 26, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
No, just the protective coat. 

Well, the sculptures are going to be monster mud, so yeah, I guess that kinda fits shellaced cloth. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 26, 2012, 10:42:10 PM
Probably for the best - I was having trouble seeing how the foam would weather much handling.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 27, 2012, 04:39:45 AM
Think Stucco. 

Most your decorative signs (say, a bear holding a sign, or the sculptures round attractions at Disneyland) are now made of foam, and coated with various products. 

The trick is finding the right product for the right price.  Disney, apparently, uses some mixture of the product I just tried out. 

But, it's a whole different set of environmental conditions they're dealing with.  It's very good stuff until you really abuse the hell out of it.  However, after losing most my stuff to weather over the last couple years, I'm considering worst case scenarios.  I decided last year, my stuff will withstand EVERYTHING. 

Like the Chimera still sitting out in front of my house.  Wind storms rip out trees and roofs, winter destroys garden ornaments out this way, Chimera is still standing there mocking the elements.  (and annoying the neighbors)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 27, 2012, 02:12:52 PM
Talia got an ouchy...
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 27, 2012, 03:19:14 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 28, 2012, 01:22:33 AM
Good news/bad news.

Good:  We have a ribcage!
Bad:  Taking more plaster wrap than I expected. 

ETA on skeleton: Tomorrow night. 
ETA on Transi:  Weekend. 
ETA on completed lid...depends how much cloth costs. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2012, 03:43:10 AM
Can't wait to see the skeleton.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 28, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
Just found this one, you should give a look:

http://ultimatepapermache.com/ (http://ultimatepapermache.com/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2012, 01:58:39 PM
Oooh.  That wolf mask is very nice.  Still reading...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
I've favorited that blog, and sent the link to BA, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 29, 2012, 12:10:54 AM
All bones accounted for.  Have decided on waiting for final assembly till I'm ready for the monster mud, because I don't want to be manipulating this more than I need to, and I can attach it to the lid during assembly. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 29, 2012, 02:35:22 AM
Hm, got another product to do a trial on.  MUCH cheaper product. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 29, 2012, 03:21:31 AM
Yes?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 29, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
Yeah...Quikrete read the review and asked me to compare/contrast their product with the hotwire foam product.  It's cheaper, A LOT cheaper, like 10% the cost, and in the local Home depot.  I was offered some free, but I don't do reviews for money. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 29, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
A hardware store isn't always going to have exactly the quality of stuff you need for a specialized use, but when they do, it's always going to beat Hobby Lobby for price...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
I just wanted to say ;uno.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 01, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
Don't know why, but that made me think.

Anyone here watched TrickRTreat? 

(probably because of this awesome animated short that inspired it.)

http://youtu.be/O1sufL6LpnQ (http://youtu.be/O1sufL6LpnQ)

The actual movie is something of an enigma. 

Fantastic new character with the potential to be iconic, the intertwining story motif that really fits the holiday, decent acting for the genre, rather unique take on a couple things....and it misses the mark by alienating it's intended audience.  "Horror movies need to be rated R" rule got horridly misapplied, adding some REALLY poor decisions to reach the rating, and ultimately resulting in a direct to DVD release. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 01, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Looks sorta like pre-CG rotoscoping, but in 1996, I guess not.

Did you catch the code on that smilie?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 02, 2012, 04:19:43 AM
This quikrete stuff is interesting...

we'll see how well it does. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 02, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
Very tempting...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9yPmbCOt6FA/T1DHJ1AebgI/AAAAAAAAMQY/Cj73IzMF1Ss/s800/santa-maria-della-concezione.2653.large_slideshow.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oimFa8K5pUY/T1DHJ-AfSjI/AAAAAAAAMQc/hz3slAZBY6Q/s800/santa-maria-della-concezione.2648.large_slideshow.jpg)


And just when you thought I shouldn't creep it up to the max, someone already DID.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tgFOb2esyLI/T1DHK7F_6HI/AAAAAAAAMQo/f8h7r0Oax-s/s800/capuchin-monastery.1828.large_slideshow.png)

Don't worry, I'm sticking to my pleurant idea.


BTW, FANTASTIC website of the bizaar.

http://atlasobscura.com/ (http://atlasobscura.com/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
I just think something a little understated and traditional is more interesting.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 02, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
I guess that's my point.  This kind of thing WAS traditional to some folks at some point in time.  I knew of one such church, decorated in skulls but turns out there's dozens built around the same period. 

No, it don't fit what I'm doing, but it's fascinating none the less. 

I mean just LOOK how many people's remains were just shoved in there to decorate for these few more honored church officials. 
(this would be pelvises)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xgUFUYw0K4c/T1DHKra8eMI/AAAAAAAAMQs/apsXMfyI-6Y/s800/santa-maria-della-concezione.2657.large_slideshow.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
The preacher can't have MY pelvis.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 02, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
Apparantly they were happy to take it from your rotting corpse.   :o
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 02, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
I'm not catholic, and they can't have my bones.  Those dudes needed a more wholesome hobby, like making haunted houses or something.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2012, 03:05:23 AM
Starting to get the transi together.  At a point where I'm waiting for things to dry, so figured may as well post.

So, to recount.  Primary inspiration for my transi is these two.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_5RsVolsP0w/TnJOJ-0MtLI/AAAAAAAAJaw/_rtre4uuswc/s800/cat331.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lx7oiuvfMvM/TrH-Q7TLeZI/AAAAAAAAKfU/IzmUZ6_KQWU/s800/2452395214_50a49b53ac.jpg)

However, because I enjoy it, and it saves me from doing ears, I chose this style face.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3c4zDfpagQw/TrH-UiNsqaI/AAAAAAAAKgM/PjvdWXq1PCU/s800/transi-de-ren-de-chalon.4925.large_slideshow.jpg)

I still want the shroud from the other two, so it'll be some kind of menagerie. 


Little Great stuff to get the proper support and give the thing an overall height and support. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BdYPvDrFxTg/T1LW6ypo26I/AAAAAAAAMRc/mbgjsHRqoJA/s800/IMG_6097.JPG)

If you're thinking that's not enough ribs, you're right, but I chose to do that to get better definition when I started the corpse/sculpt/I got really no idea what to call it.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c5dteCxj37Y/T1LW8Pq5yCI/AAAAAAAAMSA/TuBIZNjml-s/s800/IMG_6100.JPG)

Oh how I love how it's catching the light. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XvbBvpy5ax4/T1LW9LNIPBI/AAAAAAAAMSI/MsxgPN26Mzo/s800/IMG_6104.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
Me too.  ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2012, 04:10:41 AM
The stomach expanse is too great to leave hollow, especially where there's going to be some monster mud going over top of this area, so gotta put in some intestines...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OcIwK6b703w/T1LppRG-ZtI/AAAAAAAAMSs/0eIk2k2bhVE/s800/IMG_6105.JPG)


Currently waiting for it to cure....

Taking stock, realistically, I'll probably only be able to get the stomach area done this weekend, then need to take a break for a while.  I need more supplies and I need to slow down with the skull or figure something else out.  My original plan isn't looking so bright right now, this isn't a normal skeleton, and waterproofing the mouth the way I was going to go about it would have been next to impossible.  Time to slow down and think it over.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2012, 04:43:41 AM
Not a bad start at all, if somewhat more labor intensive than I figured.

Even the garish white overhead light gets pretty good shadow play. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-70bFky--9VE/T1LwaLu00OI/AAAAAAAAMTE/2qUSOgDJJjk/s800/IMG_6107.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0WQwpZnKMuE/T1LwaCvMI4I/AAAAAAAAMTA/1QMFkq8wozU/s800/IMG_6108.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dGkX2KEOHj4/T1Lwa2Exk-I/AAAAAAAAMTY/z0LvUzeR69g/s800/IMG_6109.JPG)

I know you were pushing 'Sid', but we've gone with "Trevor the Transi".

Especially fitting since he/she has got skeletal features of both genders that's not worth really going into.  It's just one of my private jokes, like the big smiley faces that are on the two Bobs. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
How are you going to bond Trevor to the lid when you get that far?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2012, 04:14:16 PM
Monster mud is fantastic stuff, it's what the Chimera is made from, and he's survived quite a lot.  When I add the shroud/blanket underneath, we'll give some extra monster mud to adhere Trevor.  Plus, the monster mud shroud comes up and covers the privates, note.    This will securely fasten Trevor to the lid...provided monster mud sticks to foam (tests forthcoming with the Pleurants I'll be getting to this week/next weekend)

Then, the entire lid is going to get a coat of mod podge, with cheese cloth embedded in it.  This seals everything, providing the first layer of protection, and fuses it all together. 

Then, the entire tomb is going to get several coats of Dryloc (a very heavy latex masonry sealer with with sand embedded in it) to give it the stone look. 

Then paint as needed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 04, 2012, 04:21:43 PM
You're going to go for a bare gray stone look?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2012, 04:24:59 PM
Yes.  It'll play the lighting best at night. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 05, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
Ok, back to the drawing board on these Pleurant. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I6ZseZUCAfI/T1Q3qZ-sH9I/AAAAAAAAMTs/8IKf9Kkffzw/s800/IMG_6110.JPG)

My means of attaching it to the tomb while it dried proved to be no robust enough, didn't support the arms good enough, and by the time I was done getting it set, they got squashed.  There's a hole behind this pleurant now, probably going to have to scrap the entire wall and start over. 

Good lessons learned.  I've already got a better means in mind to make them. 

Ah, the joy of failure. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2012, 02:58:43 PM
Welll, the challenge can be part of the fun, and learning is always good.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 05, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Got the "hey, you're the crazy Halloween guy from down the street" at lunch today.  Smart phones have really changed that reaction lately.  As normal I left my card so they could give the website to their friends they're busy telling about my yard.  However, in this day and age, they have the website up and sharing pics in seconds. 

High school grads talking Halloween in March.   :D  Told them to come buy for Walpurgisnacht.  I'm hoping to have the tomb presentable by then, but will have something up if not the tomb. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 05, 2012, 09:59:27 PM
"Walpurgisnacht"?  I'm not familiar with that...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 06, 2012, 03:55:36 AM
Never read Faust?   ;troll

Also know as Hexennacht, Witches night.  April 30th, night before May day. 

Bram Stoker has a marvelous tale of that name as well.  Originally part of Dracula, it got cut because Dracula was too long, so he turned it into a short story. 

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/g6oux1/bram-stokers-walpurgis-nacht (http://www.spike.com/video-clips/g6oux1/bram-stokers-walpurgis-nacht)

It's "The other Halloween". 

In Germanic tradition, Halloween marks the last night we mortals can harvest the field for the season, for the otherworld season is beginning, and you light fires and dance in furs to confuse the emerging spirits.  Walpurgisnacht, likewise, is the last night the otherworld is allowed to harvest, for the mortal season is beginning, and you light fires to scare off the witches collecting their final souls of the season. 




Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 06, 2012, 04:13:03 AM
Meanwhile, Tali is scared of the Pleurant there, and Jen want's me to keep it. 


Alec had basketball tonight.

His team has not been very good, and tonight began the 'playoffs' for this little league.  Everyone got to play in the playoffs, and they played the same team they played last week.  So, last week, the opposing coach came up after the game and asked if our team wanted to play this week, or if they would rather just go out for a pizza party with his team "because let's face it, there's no real point in playing".  Our team had won all of 2 games all season, had just lost to this team for the second time by 14 points.  Our coach didn't say anything, just gathered the team and asked them for a vote.  They unanimously voted to play the game. 

Karma is a [complaint or disagreeable woman].  I had to smile as this same coach started screaming in the final 2 minutes of the game, down by 2 points, and our team matching them basket for basket.  It was most amusing.   I do feel bad that the other team left in tears, though. 

Of all the moronic scheduling, our team plays next week at 5:30, but the winner of that game has to play AGAIN at 7:30 against a rested team. 

Amusing swear filter definition for a hundin there.  Having been raised with a breeding [complaint or disagreeable woman] who's offspring won westminsters, I've always found that particular word rather strange in the vernacular, though. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 06, 2012, 04:54:17 AM
How can Talia be afraid of anything by now? 

It's good when karma's a [complaint or disagreeable woman] on your side.  I'm glad you find the swear filter thing amusing - I thought defining the terms filtered was hella-funny compared to boring old asterisks...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 06, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
It's always interesting what gets to Talia.  It's never predictable.  Probably has a lot to do with the fact she didn't see me making it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 06, 2012, 02:45:15 PM
You need to let her see you making one, don't you?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 09, 2012, 03:14:20 AM
I'm definitely feeling pleurant trial #2 MUCH MUCH better.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cvUfCRpfCW0/T1lz0_Nn1II/AAAAAAAAMUs/JNrXy8NoTBE/s800/IMG_6115.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MUc-3JdGy8U/T1lz2FnDQNI/AAAAAAAAMVg/Qwl2AR2-dGk/s800/IMG_6120.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V_4Vsx-N4X8/T1lz1sm3AyI/AAAAAAAAMVU/dszaRZKzYi0/s800/IMG_6118.JPG)

Secret was not attempting to mud it right to the tomb, I can attach them easier later.  Also seperated arms, body, and head so there's 4 pieces of cloth on this thing to get better layering.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 09, 2012, 03:27:56 AM
I like.  I like a lot. ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 11, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Been working on the head today.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6eXWQ5JCwkg/T1vpQJdXmkI/AAAAAAAAMWA/2rLlxrniaNw/s800/IMG_6123.JPG)

Almost ready for the arms and legs, but there's some family business that prevents it from happening this weekend. 

Have 3 more Pleurant ready to be built, then we'll maybe do a side of the tomb tomorrow, depending on dry time.

It's becoming more and more a sculpt than a copy.  Modified the skull to make larger (and more 'Uno styled') eye sockets.  Slight addition of a brow, little wider, more square, etc.  It's no longer a Chinese female skull, that's for sure. (my source is a copy of a 21 year old Chinese girl)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 11, 2012, 01:59:54 AM
I don't know about the open mouth; you're trying to soft-pedal the horror, yes?  Open mouth says screaming in torment...

(Also, it looks really good.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 11, 2012, 03:46:51 AM
That style transi head always had the mouth open?  So, I didn't even think about it.  Racked my brain how to best get it open a bit to be honest. 

Frankly I didn't read it as a scream, but I'm not the most normal perspective to judge of that kinda stuff.  I'm guessing the artists of the time had the same impression as me that a closed mouth skull looks like a big stupid grin, where a slight opening appears more natural.

 :-\



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 11, 2012, 03:53:45 AM
..A lot will depend on what you do with the teeth - much of an opening does not say "at peace".
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 11, 2012, 04:16:03 AM
Well, it's open about a pencil-width so I can get a paintbrush down in there more than anything else.  It was either that or completely closed, and I'm opposed to the latter, in case you couldn't tell. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 11, 2012, 10:18:51 PM
...
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5gsUlIXRedc/T10gik4RrcI/AAAAAAAAMW0/6JqyqOWdmJw/s800/IMG_6129.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 11, 2012, 11:08:59 PM
Oh.  Oh.  That is going to look SO awesome.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 12, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
Getting reports from Transworld.


Was going to post the video, but it's over an hour long and has some less than family friendly content (mostly zombie breasts and VERY disgusting props done in ill taste).  It always surprises me how much CRAP comes out every year.  90% of it is total garbage or stuff you can build easier/cheaper at home.  Then there's the cool stuff:


Evil Architecture.  New company that sells little architecture onlays and whatnot specificly halloween themed.  Unfortunatly their website is not running yet, just the standard default template.  I'll be looking at them. 

All the usual suspects I buy from as well.  Sinister Visions, Wildfire, Froggy's, etc. 


Random things that I'll never afford but are cool to see: 

Abra Cadaver.  Cool but pricey foam creations.  http://www.abracadaver.com/Abracadaver/Rigid_Foam_Props.html (http://www.abracadaver.com/Abracadaver/Rigid_Foam_Props.html) 
still, fairly reasonable prices considering the market.

I so want these...

http://youtu.be/gu8qc_-45z4 (http://youtu.be/gu8qc_-45z4)







Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 12, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
This is a halloween convention, more or less?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 12, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
Yes, more geared at the professional side
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 13, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
The big thing is their MOTION.  Curvey motions are VERY hard to replicate.  I'd very much like to get a peek at the mechanism they're using to get those vines to coil up like that.  Would be good with a snake body as well.  But, much to Dark Raven Design's credit, they've STUCK to their decision to be THE source for plant/jungle stuff for at least 5 years now.  They've been doing vine creatures for years, usually in a wall to give the appearance of it twising, when it was simple curved arms on actuators...but this new free form curve stuff is remarkable. 


___________________________________________


Anyhow.  Time to take a break from the tomb. 

Might be on business travel this weekend, and I've been asked to do a special project.

Kyle's scout troop is going to skull valley this weekend.  http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=skull+valley+utah&gbv=2&oq=skull+valley&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=1&gs_upl=1032l3141l0l6312l12l12l0l2l2l0l312l1015l0.3.1.1l5l0&oi=image_result_group&sa=X (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=skull+valley+utah&gbv=2&oq=skull+valley&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=1&gs_upl=1032l3141l0l6312l12l12l0l2l2l0l312l1015l0.3.1.1l5l0&oi=image_result_group&sa=X)

And, one of the leaders asked me to make a skull to go along with a spooky story "To creep the kids out a little".  "And if it looks like it's been buried for a hundred years, all the better."  He wants to partially bury this for the kids to find. 

Alright.  This leader is a jovial guy, and does the "jump out and go boo" type thing on Halloween, dressing as a dummy and startling kids...but is mostly the classic family rated PG type 'scary' guy. 

How far should I really push this skull? 

To get something Kyle's not going to instantly recognize as mine is going to be hard to begin, so just dirtying up a skull isn't going to cut it.  He's made a few hundred himself.   

I'm seeing a purposely broken skull myself.  The exposed portion being normal, but when they dig it up, the other half busted and being held together by bits of flesh. 


Too far? 


13 year old kids. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 13, 2012, 03:05:50 PM
All boys, correct?  Nothing is too gross for 13 year-old boys, as a rule.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 13, 2012, 08:51:52 PM
Just got a thank you from wildfire.  (blacklight paint company at Transworld) 
Steve was a hit.  They say they could have sold hundreds of them if I ever want to go in business.   ;D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 13, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
Steve?  Have I forgotten something?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 13, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
Back in 2010, I was attempting to make the spider woman temple.  Steve was the name I gave to my mummies, designed to be in a blacklight area, but instead of some putrid green glow or similar silly thing, I made them flesh toned. 

(sorry, I committed the cardinal sin of not getting a pic of the completed product. )

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V18FmgVXYS8/S7Mw03bXx4I/AAAAAAAAGBE/_-Gbel7w1_M/s800/IMG_5024.JPG)

Wildfire paint followed the project on my blog and invited me to Transworld in 2010 to bring it out with me for them to display.  It wasn't done in time. 

I was also making all the Stele and whatnot.  Well, we had a storm knock down a shed and destroy most everything I had worked on, so we switched things up in September to make "The Harvest" theme, because I had nothing and people on the Halloween forum were making fun of those that 'Just put out some corn stalks and pumpkins".  The Harvest has since become a staple, with more than a dozen copycats on the Halloween forum last year (part of the reason I'm doing the tomb thing this year)...but I had 5 "steves" half built and in storage under my stairs. 

Well, Wildfire called back in 2011 about Transworld.  So, I finished them, sold 4 to the Diablo's Dome haunted house last year, and sent one to Wildfire with my blessings.  They in turn sent me some product and invited me again this year. 

They've offered to put me in their publication as well, and keep pushing me to go professional, but I'm hesitant to make it a job again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 13, 2012, 09:55:40 PM
What happened the last time it was a job?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 13, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
You basically get income 3 months of the year, but are working constantly.  The consulting thing I do part time is pretty fun.  I do need to get a business license, though, to add some occasional sales to the list. 


In other news:  :sick:  http://maraz-m-moroz.livejournal.com/255878.html (http://maraz-m-moroz.livejournal.com/255878.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 13, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
Eh.

...Should I work up a :sick: smilie?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 16, 2012, 02:17:29 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TnwNb47qdJ0/T2KiEZLpvTI/AAAAAAAAMYM/tJL8hfGliPk/s800/IMG_6132.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fgJcUtw6S-I/T2KiErY8krI/AAAAAAAAMYU/ctk7J60O8yo/s800/IMG_6133.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FQYSAuum_5c/T2KiEssc7zI/AAAAAAAAMYQ/5YFwVfVS02w/s800/IMG_6134.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2012, 02:31:28 AM
Does it stink?  The master touch would be to to make it smell so rotted and foul that no one, especially your boy, will get a close look.  Stuff a thimbleful of ground beef in it somewhere...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 16, 2012, 02:40:45 AM
There's a product for that.

http://www.minionsweb.com/osStore/scents-sinister-scents-c-1_33_60.html (http://www.minionsweb.com/osStore/scents-sinister-scents-c-1_33_60.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
It have sincere doubts that a "product" will have the vomitous effect that genuine rotting meat will - and at ten times the cost, I bet.

-Of course, if it has to be stinky by Saturday, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 16, 2012, 03:15:48 AM
The products are more for massive dispersion across a huge area.    And, they're hit or miss whether they smell like what they're supposed to.  I try to avoid the bad ones. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2012, 03:25:39 AM
I don't think you would want it to spread all that far, anyway - just make it too discusting for anyone to want to get close...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 16, 2012, 11:15:49 AM
But not stink up the truck as they drive up there? 

I actually have ground beef heart I feed the fish...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
Obviously, it would have to be carefully sealed up for the trip...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 17, 2012, 09:17:29 PM
No one guessed it was a fake until told.  Mission accomplished. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 17, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
It's impressive that you managed to fool your boy.  Did you do the smell stuff? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 17, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
No, I had dropped it off before you even brought it up. 

They buried it in a cave that had really ashen colored dirt, made it look even better...but they buried it upside down for some reason (dirt side up), so it wouldn't have made any sense to anyone that had studied how things rot at all...not that 13 year olds really pay attention to that.  Will get picks later.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2012, 03:05:30 PM
Ok,

I finished up a protective coating on the completed side last night.  I'm now pretty confident it's safe to move, finally.  Setting up to work on the top and/or the chiller this weekend. 

Had a major setback on the top, however.  Attempted to lifecast some feet for it, which went horribly wrong since my son doesn't understand the concept of sitting still.  I don't have more stuff and it's too expensive to go get more, which leaves me with the prospect of sculpting hands and feet, something I was attempting to avoid.  But, those are the only pieces holding up the top from being completed.  (because I can't do the arms/legs till the hands/feet are done...actually the arms are going to be quite tricky all together, probably have to do them at the same time as the monster mud)

I'm also out of wire for more Pleurant.  Going to be a nice weekend, though, will start pulling the patio furniture out of the shed, I may have more in there, but the shed lost it's door in our windstorm and is full of leaves, so that's going to be a project in itself. 

Not looking promising for being finished end of April. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
No pics?

It sounds like money is a little tight right now. 

Are you planning to have some drapery on the figure on top?  Seems to me like that would be appropriate, and you could hide a multitude of sins that way, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
No pics?

It sounds like money is a little tight right now. 

Are you planning to have some drapery on the figure on top?  Seems to me like that would be appropriate, and you could hide a multitude of sins that way, too.

Pics of what, failed lifecasting?  It's too messy and time critical to grab a camera.  Otherwise, just a clearcoat on the finished side, nothing to shout about really. 

As for money, lifecasting supplies are pricey.  It wasn't in the cards to go buy more to begin with.  The chicken wire is more a matter of if I'm gonna buy it I'm gonna buy a TON, as I need it for the ruined tombs later anyway.  This pay period was set to the fog chiller.  I probably should have waited till I finished the other stuff, but I don't tend to work that way. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Pics of what, failed lifecasting?
The finished side...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2012, 08:58:53 PM
I guess bad choice of words.  It's not "done, done".  Same as last pic, but with a clear coat over everything so I'm sure the pleurant and blocks will not fall off and are safe from minor bumps that might happen in the garage.  Already had to patch one of them as the kids knocked a hole in by bumping one pleurant with a football.  It's ready to stand up straight so I can get some better support inside and work on the chiller. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2012, 09:09:39 PM
Okay, I think I understand what you have in mind for the sides - same for the ends?  And is the top going to be a skeleton on a tabletop or what?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
Chiller is basically done. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cvl5QGyTb4s/T2qKxMuyUEI/AAAAAAAAMaA/gti2-pMwR9s/s800/IMG_6139.JPG)

Normally the side with the duct fulled everywhere will be filled with ice, but with my small fogger there, it's not going to matter. 

Video is kinda stuck in upload at the moment....


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 03:01:03 AM
http://youtu.be/tKKTvtugtM8 (http://youtu.be/tKKTvtugtM8)

Caveat: that's my smallest fog machine, I'm planning to buy one several magnitudes larger. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 22, 2012, 03:09:00 AM
Looks great.  How do you cover the sound?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 03:44:12 AM
With the lid.  ;) 

The camera mic was pretty close to the fog machine. 

Larger machines tend to be quieter as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 02:20:50 PM

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cvl5QGyTb4s/T2qKxMuyUEI/AAAAAAAAMaA/gti2-pMwR9s/s800/IMG_6139.JPG)


One thing I should note.  If you're ever going to work with foam, forget all the tutorials, how to's, professional places, etc that say you should use a hot wire. 

Get one of those electric carving knives seen near the fog machine. 

It was an off hand comment on syfy's new (and AWFUL) show Monster Man that caught my attention.  He was making a foam monster and said he was breaking out his new electric knife.  I figured one of the fancy hotknives.  A brief half second shot of them cutting the form up, though, and I recognized his electric knife as an electric carving knife.  THEY WORK FANTASTIC on foam.  10x faster than a hot knife, and CLEAN cuts unlike other power tools. 

I've seen in the promos there's another something he's using to sculpt foam with, but his hand is mostly covering it, so waiting for that episode.  This week's was just useless stupid. 


Talia's rendition of Trevor the Transi.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0zfrD34tYTg/T2qKvhd4PJI/AAAAAAAAMZ4/Y0gntCVhNDs/s800/IMG_6135.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 22, 2012, 02:29:14 PM
I'm guessing heated wire warps the foam?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
Not at all, heated wire cuts it extremely well.  That's what I had been using prior to yesterday.  It just takes time, it's a slow and steady cutting process.  This knife cuts like a knife, is a much more 'natural' feel to it, and has just as clean an edge as the hot wire cuts do.  (where, normal saws mutilate the foam.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 22, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
http://youtu.be/8z1R1wkd218 (http://youtu.be/8z1R1wkd218)

What you think?


Forget the silly looking spider, just the MECHANISM.  I can put whatever I want on the end of it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 22, 2012, 07:40:56 PM
I think your possibilities would be profound with that gadget - I just couldn't begin to place a numerical value on it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 23, 2012, 02:14:36 AM
~$100....

It's quite tempting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 23, 2012, 02:35:05 AM
You do know that I'm a practicing miser, right?  I don't approve of reckless spending.

If it looks to your engineer's eye like a substantial mechanism that'll last, I say go for it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 23, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
I'm asking folks that bought one last year.  See if I can get a shot of the actual mechanism, not all dolled up. 

We normally wind up getting a discount at that store as well, so I'd wait for that to get it down to the $60 range. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 23, 2012, 01:08:21 PM
To give you a frame of reference, here's the industry standard of how to do this:

http://youtu.be/de_VRUkbiwI (http://youtu.be/de_VRUkbiwI)

Such a mechanism runs $200+, requires a compressor, controller, and trigger to be added.


The Spirit one is running electrical actuator somehow, and has the trigger and controller included (but I would need to replace the trigger for my purposes)  The big question is does the electric actuator hold up?  There's also the reset speed being a concern to some degree. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 23, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
If it would last, I think it's very safe to assume you'd get $60 worth...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 23, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
More info:

The Spirit spider is SPRING driven, the electric motor is only used to reset the device.  This is actually good news for longevity.  I'd want a way to turn down the delay between release and motor activation if possible, though.  This also means weight is not much an issue with the device, you could adjust springs to compensate for a heavier item being thrown. 


I almost want to get one just so I can reverse engineer the thing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 23, 2012, 03:45:46 PM
I kinda figured that last...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 25, 2012, 04:00:21 AM
Marathon 6 hour session today...  :cool:


Goal of the day, get Trevor assembled...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M76dLUADSvo/T26EtRR0KgI/AAAAAAAAMaY/RqjqT3C9_Z8/s800/IMG_6141.JPG)

We had him attached previously, but well, he was upside down.  So, after removing the old foam, getting the new little pedestal to get him sitting properly, I decided Great stuff was going to make a great adhesive for this project.

We cast some quick and dirty hands and feet forms from my sons'.  I'll have to sculpt some toes and SOME of the fingers, but the fingers are mostly going to be hidden by the 'cloth' that we will be adding. 

So, left arm down, left hand will be grabbing the 'cloth'.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oPn6y1zV_08/T26EtbWDJ1I/AAAAAAAAMac/64XWHvC0CEE/s800/IMG_6143.JPG)


Right are will be holding some cloth in modesty...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KNjfqqgscZo/T26EujSDOCI/AAAAAAAAMa8/sAFARP0I10E/s800/IMG_6146.JPG)

Great stuff knees to connect the Femur and Tibia, quick and dirty feet.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2j_9ZhCGLz4/T26EvWVZgzI/AAAAAAAAMbE/IElD0YrPny8/s800/IMG_6147.JPG)

Thighs...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xcgLWwfR-C0/T26EwYkcsoI/AAAAAAAAMbc/7Jo62z9XKro/s800/IMG_6150.JPG)

More great stuff to fill in a bit of meat to the bones. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ghva8-SO6uI/T26IaIiWyrI/AAAAAAAAMcA/KUHy5JGxVEg/s800/IMG_6153.JPG)


For some reason, getting this guy assembled, he's starting to creep me out just a bit...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2012, 04:12:20 AM
That's probably a very good sign.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 25, 2012, 11:27:00 PM
The boss has signed off on the spider...

Going to play wait and see right now, we normally get discounts to that store, and if the local stores get them in stock I can save shipping. 


Neighbor swears they can see Trevor breathing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 26, 2012, 12:04:30 AM
Good news on all fronts, then!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 26, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
Job offer today.  I turned it down, but nice to be thought of. 

Some 10 years ago, I got introduced to Sonny.  My dads 2nd cousin, so god only knows what that makes us. 

Anyhow, strange character.  Idiot.  Terrified of bigfoot. 

So, he got married to an artist that goes and makes real fancy versions of those light up reindeer and whatnot for christmas.  She makes anything and everything.  And, they were starting a business buildign a ton of those, setting them to music, and charging people to drive through the area. 

Got an entire campground/marina at a local reservoir (since no one is camping in Dec, no problem) and hired my older brother to install the sound. 

Well, after a couple years, he decided to expand the idea to Halloween.  And, as you may guess, it was suggested he come talk to me. 

Lets just say we did not agree on the artistic direction he was wanting to go.  NO ONE wants to go pay to drive through a christmas light show in October.  I suggested having his wife instead build and animate some characters we could skin instead of light up, and make a halloween themed 'dark ride' people could drive through, and had a set of plans for him at the time. 

They went the christmas light direction.  It utterly failed. 

Well, apparently last year, they took my plans and did the dark.  Ran into him at the gas station this morning, and he has advertisement for it plastered all over his truck.  Did better than their christmas lights and he wants to expand, and was hoping I would make him bigger and better plans. 

Well, I never got paid for the last time (that he didn't use at the time, so I was fine with it then) and he never paid my brother for the sound, either.  Not to mention several other endeavors that have similar complaints against this guy.  Too bad, it's a new field for the holiday in general, and that aspect interests me, but guy is bad news. 

Bonus:  Video of his christmas stuff.

http://youtu.be/-XSRB3X9HKE (http://youtu.be/-XSRB3X9HKE)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 26, 2012, 02:24:49 PM
That would be be second cousin once removed.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 26, 2012, 10:18:25 PM
Didn't know if I should put this up in the 'research' sections.

Zombie outbreak.  Yeah.  For real.
Quote
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/21/mysterious-zombie-disease-afflicts-thousands-of-ugandan-children/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/21/mysterious-zombie-disease-afflicts-thousands-of-ugandan-children/)

Mysterious ‘zombie’ disease afflicts thousands of Ugandan children
By David Ferguson
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:52 EDT 904
Topics: Agnes Apio ♦ northern Uganda

 
Agnes Apio has to tie up her son Francis before she can leave the house. In his state, he is a danger to himself. Where once he walked and talked like a normal child, now he is only able to drag himself along in the dirt. Francis is suffering from “Nodding Disease,” a brain disorder that, according to CNN, afflicts at least 3,000 children in northern Uganda, leaving them physically stunted and severely mentally disabled.

“I feel dark in my heart,” Apio says as waves flies away from her son’s face and mops up his urine after a seizure, “This boy has become nothing.”

“Reportedly the children gnaw at their fabric restraints, like a rabid animals,” says The Daily Tech.  The article calls them “zombie children,” having “no cure” and “no future.”


First the victims become restless, can’t concentrate. They say they have trouble thinking. Then comes the nodding, an uncontrollable dipping of the head that presages the disease’s debilitating epilepsy-like seizures. It is this nodding motion that gives the illness its name.

Nodding Disease first attacks the nervous system, then the brain. As the epilepsy-like seizures progress and worsen, the children become less and less like themselves, and more and more distant and blank. Eventually the brain stops developing and the victims’ bodies stop growing. So far, no patients have recovered.

Grace Lagat also has to tie up her children in order to leave the house. Daughter Pauline, 13, and son Thomas are bound hand and foot to keep them from shuffling away and getting lost. Pauline recently disappeared for five days.

Experts are baffled as to what causes the disease, which only occurs in children. Early findings suggest a confluence of the presence of the black fly-borne parasitic worm Onchocerca Volvulus, which causes river blindness, and acute vitamin B6 deficiency.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, onset usually takes place at the age of five or six and progresses rapidly, leaving the victims severely mentally and physically handicapped within a couple of years.

Victims can wander off and disappear. Some 200 “secondary deaths” have been blamed on fires and accidents caused by children with the disease.


Physicians and workers with the Ugandan Red Cross are frustrated by what they see as a lack of urgency in the government’s handling of the disease. After months of lagging, officials have only begun an official tally of cases within the last two weeks.

The situation was already dire when a team from the World Health Organization visited northern Uganda in 2009. CNN quotes one doctor from the team, Dr. Joaquin Saweka as saying, “It was quite desperate, I can tell you. Imagine being surrounded by 26 children and 12 of them showing signs of this. The attitude was to quickly find a solution to the problem.”

Solutions, however, have been slow in coming.

Doctors have been treating the seizures caused by the disease with epilepsy drugs, but their efficacy is limited. The drugs only slow the progression of the disease, but fail to stop it.

Currently, Ugandan government officials say that they are doing everything they can to fight the epidemic. They say that new epilepsy drugs are being tried and special training has been instituted for local health officials. This, they say, is as much as can be done for a disease whose cause and cure are largely unknown.

Saweka said, “When you know the root cause, you address the cure. Now you are just relieving the symptoms. We don’t expect to cure anybody.”

Watch a CDC video about Nodding Disease, embedded via YouTube, below:

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 26, 2012, 11:22:16 PM
I don't see why not - something where some science had taken place would be better, but still.



Your 2nd-cousin-once-removed-in-law's Christmas light thingies aren't bad, BTW, if you like that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 26, 2012, 11:30:34 PM
Yes, the Christmas stuff is spot on, but is that the kind of thing you imagine when you think "Halloween"? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 26, 2012, 11:58:54 PM
Oh, of course not.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 27, 2012, 10:03:17 PM
http://www.tskuebler.com/index.htm (http://www.tskuebler.com/index.htm)

Enjoy. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Interesting.  Way too inclined to the bizarre for my blood, but impressive technique, whatever your tastes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 30, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
Hm...they're out of the little green blocks I used to make my side "columns" on the tomb. ...


So, I guess we're going to get more done on Trevor this weekend instead. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 01, 2012, 02:05:51 AM
We have hands. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6sNKjUqTN5c/T3eolDxvVlI/AAAAAAAAMcU/kF0_Ve9t1h8/s800/IMG_6157.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 01, 2012, 02:42:51 AM
Neat.  When you're doing smoothing/finishing on them, try to bring out a hint of the bones along the back of the hand; it's not hard to do, and really adds to the look.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 01, 2012, 03:22:42 AM
It's actually the tendons I need to bring out, but yeah. 

I needed the fingers for my next major step of doing the sheet/shroud in monster mud, which will attach Trevor TO the lid, and make it all solid.  Hoping to get that done tomorrow, but the weather's supposed to go to hell and it might need to wait.

Especially as it was a bad night last night, and am working on about 2 hours sleep in the last 48 hours right now as a result. 

It's a very huge and incredibly messy step, minimum of a two man job up next...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 01, 2012, 11:01:51 PM
Well, the monster mud is on.  Weather's not near as bad as they said it was going to be.  Will get pics up later. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 01, 2012, 11:08:53 PM
 ;excite;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 02, 2012, 04:19:39 AM
 Now we're ready to do some detailing on the lid/transi. 

Right side:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xXEWCXRj92o/T3kT-57bGsI/AAAAAAAAMcw/nmI9iMNnamY/s800/IMG_6162.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-keBkIPupx_0/T3kT-26Bm8I/AAAAAAAAMcs/Ta0O589ceMs/s800/IMG_6160.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7b8zANbcDKk/T3kT-6ekGXI/AAAAAAAAMco/y2ap2Wx2PNU/s800/IMG_6161.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3QL7Y5J8XIw/T3kUIse-S6I/AAAAAAAAMdE/dqQHmh-YX6s/s800/IMG_6163.JPG)

(obviously no toes yet)

Left side:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dWpQw0A5t3A/T3kUIEwZO8I/AAAAAAAAMdA/nMG3Zk62z2w/s800/IMG_6164.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--7uEfT6roNQ/T3kUI44aQDI/AAAAAAAAMdM/HS7ii0jT-ZI/s800/IMG_6165.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WuvEdcbbq_Q/T3kURlHY7vI/AAAAAAAAMdY/KGuYOpFwDy8/s800/IMG_6166.JPG)

Bottom.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DMBN7znQDhk/T3kUSKX-wuI/AAAAAAAAMdk/R5XpTwBTRcA/s800/IMG_6167.JPG)

Little sneak of how it's coming together.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2srA4-b4KIY/T3kUR7ZLWSI/AAAAAAAAMdg/2DSbucG96yU/s800/IMG_6168.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 02, 2012, 04:47:09 AM
Nice. Are the panels going to be detachable for trasnport?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 02, 2012, 02:04:20 PM
Nope, it's just a lightweight tomb.  (though I'm beginning to think carving out of stone would have been quicker...)

I hadn't planned on storing this thing when I started, so wasn't worried about that stuff.  Just going to use it one year and sell it...but I'm getting rather attached to it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 02, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
I imagine those transis are gonna take some wear in transit.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 02, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
Oh, the Pleurant.  (transi on top, pleurant on the sides)

Yeah, I imagine they would if someone were to ship this freight or something.  The biggest threat would actually be an impact could break the foam they are glued to.  They are pretty damn impervious themselves, and we're using a masonry sealer when I start painting, so scuffing would likely be minor as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 05, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
So, my son's "blue and gold banquet" was last night.  (cub scouts deal)

We're there, all these families around, my son (9) and a bunch of his friends, all sitting down for dinner.  Some of the kids know me, parents, not so much, but EVERYONE knows I'm the crazy halloween guy. 
My son asks:  "Dad, are we the top of the food chain?" 
"No."
"Well, then, who is above us?" 
Completely serious and straight faced.  "Vampires." 
My wife, equally serious and straight faced.  "Werewolves." 

It's tough to tell whether the kids were more shocked, or their parents. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2012, 03:44:13 PM
I wonder what eats vampires and werewolves?


...Oh crap.  I just came up with the premise of the next Underworld sequel...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 13, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
Uh oh...

My little less than glowing review of that coating product has caught the attention of the company.   ???

Just like with the torches years ago, you search for the product, you get my review, not their website.  Like lamplight farms (the torch company that remodeled the torches based on my criticism, and came up with a colored flame product based on my searching for such a product) , however, they are also asking me to review a product "better suited to my particular needs".  So, I'll be getting this new and improved coating specifically for outdoor use in the mail. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 13, 2012, 09:29:16 PM
That has to be good for your ego...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 15, 2012, 01:37:53 AM
I know I've kinda disappeared.  You'ld be surprised how sculpting can suck time away. 

I also apologize to anyone attempting to find DAS clay in northern Utah.  I've systematically cleaned out all stores save hobby lobby (who is charging 50% more than anyone else for it).  The last store was a grand opening right down the street.  As I bought up their entire supply the kind sales clerk asked what I was making (seems company policy, they were asking everyone.)  I'm not exactly sure how to explain that one.  "I'm building a tomb" was predictably a confusing answer. 


Approximately 8 hours have been spent on it so far over the week, and the right side is almost done.  My hands can only take about an hour at a stretch.   I stopped for a break and decided to take some pics. 

(they ran out of white, so used terra cotta color as well.)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jy0b8tX28oA/T4oUJwHNcaI/AAAAAAAAMfM/4k0GPq6bw1w/s800/IMG_6171.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TDW6V6mycq4/T4oUKhWoS4I/AAAAAAAAMfc/zKFyZgPTJXk/s800/IMG_6172.JPG)

(Sorry this one didn't quite turn out)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-91DHY-AhWCM/T4oUKwV0-gI/AAAAAAAAMfo/8qi_N74uCiY/s800/IMG_6173.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H7s1KU91GdE/T4oUKyjGhRI/AAAAAAAAMfk/qIpOvEVx01I/s800/IMG_6174.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TTu2gNu1YCI/T4oUJxmdfPI/AAAAAAAAMfI/Tjo4CecrBhE/s800/IMG_6170.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 15, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
That is looking good.  ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 16, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Started on the left side.  I'm actually about 80% done with the thing now.  Have the lower inside calf of the left leg to finish, couple spots need some touchup on the right leg, and need to sand the whole thing and do a little cleanup here or there. 

Didn't get a pic of the left leg.

Probably all told, a 20 hour sculpting job. 
 :o

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZpuOgxawNYU/T4r5IpHnyGI/AAAAAAAAMgI/twSChXfsvKs/s800/IMG_6176.JPG)

I sure have missed working with clay-proper, however.  Nice to get my hands in it again.  Still, monster mud is so much quicker/easier. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 16, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
The time really gets away from you when you're in the zone, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 16, 2012, 05:57:50 PM
Beginning to wish I had a means to make a good mold of this thing.   Once it's dry and finished, if I filled the undercuts with modeling clay and sent it down to the scenic shop for a vacuform mold, for instance (then I could remove the modeling clay for my original)...

Wonder how much they'd charge me, or if we could work out a deal.  Be kinda cool to see something of mine sold en-masse as a vacuform mold. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 16, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
Yeah, it really would - and possibly quite profitable.  No harm in making inquiries, I guess.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 16, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
Actually, once I get the pleurant finished, it would be possible to vacuform the sides as well, and sell a whole build your own tomb kit.  4 sides and a top, you'ld just have to make a frame to staple them to. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 16, 2012, 08:36:57 PM
There are a lot of freaks out there; go for it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 16, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Just gotta find someone who can do the work that I trust.  I don't know of anyone off hand. 

There's a stage production outfit in SLC that could do it.  They wouldn't be interested in production for Halloween, though, I don't believe.  I can check.  They mostly make brick/stone walls for stage productions. 

The Hallween folks I know that do this kind of thing would just as soon rip off the idea and do their own version. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 16, 2012, 11:26:19 PM
That is going to happen if the thing catches on...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 17, 2012, 02:06:58 PM
Yeah, I'd just like one on the market before that happens. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 17, 2012, 03:51:54 PM
Oh, sure.  First is best.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 17, 2012, 07:42:12 PM
SLC folks are willing if I want to buy a minimum run that I'd never be able to afford.  :( 

Nightvisions studio would be the next stop, but like I say, they're just as likely to say no and then make their own.  Not so sure I'll even try. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 23, 2012, 04:02:23 PM
 
The neighbors across the street (the anti-halloween folk) bought 2 honeybee colonies Saturday, brought them home, and suddenly realized they had no idea how to transfer them from the transport boxes to the hives (and had the hives set up wrong, but they didn't know that). They called the supplier, who called me.

Hard to tell what was more shocking to them. The evil Halloween guy coming to their rescue, or the fact I was moving thousands of bees sans-bee suit.

I'm actually not overly enthusiastic about the survival of these bees. Their garden isn't nearly a 'friendly' environment yet, and the surrounding neighbors don't offer much foraging either. I have mine set up for my native hive that may or may not have survived the spraying from another neighbor, so that's (potential) competition in the only real yard planted with bees in mind, and I got horrified looks when I suggested some less than totally eye-pleasing plants that would help the bees, and even more attitude when I discouraged the idea of putting the hives in their greenhouse. Then, given our history, they're not likely to listen to anything I say anyway, even though it was all on the instruction sheet from their supplier as well.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 23, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
How are your bees doing lately?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 23, 2012, 09:29:35 PM
Haven't seen em, but it's still officially early for this kind of bee.  They die off every winter naturally, save the queen/couple drones, and she has to repopulate.  So, I won't know till around June when the population is up in the hundreds. 

Really bizaar weather this year might make that earlier.  We're in the 80's right now, and all the plants are confused.  Bugs will soon follow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 28, 2012, 02:53:34 AM
I'm not sure how well this is really going to show in pictures. 

Started sanding, and it's REALLY starting to come alive, smoothing out the bumps...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Db2saUy-gZE/T5tKKiE9qHI/AAAAAAAAMhI/CcBfzN3enMg/s800/IMG_6184.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eoo_mcBk198/T5tKLN8VpMI/AAAAAAAAMhY/KTNtctCxKTQ/s800/IMG_6186.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 28, 2012, 03:49:30 AM
Thanks.  I can't wait to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 28, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
FYI, I've been having lots of trouble accessing this forum lately.  Keep getting timeouts unless I search my history for this thread specifically....
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 30, 2012, 02:36:41 PM
Aside from not being able to get on for a few hours Thursday morning, it's actually been doing better for me lately...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 04, 2012, 02:44:32 AM
Was getting server errors the last few days.   :-[


Gotta get some new pics.  Got the second side all pleuranted up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 04, 2012, 04:24:44 AM
There's something strange going on with the front page, and I wasn't able to attach a tiny GotM badge file this afternoon.  Sisko is looking into it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 09, 2012, 01:11:25 AM
some day....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILD-WEST-GHOST-TOWN-SALE-15-BUILDINGS-OWN-TOURIST-TOWN-MAIN-STREET-/140741561385 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILD-WEST-GHOST-TOWN-SALE-15-BUILDINGS-OWN-TOURIST-TOWN-MAIN-STREET-/140741561385)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 09, 2012, 01:48:21 AM
I have this wild fancy that what you'd do with it would involve the boogerman...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 09, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Maybe. 

I've always had a thing for the old west medicine show.  Don't have the file uploaded anywhere, but I have a VSA routine (animatronix) for a medicine show at home.  Always wanted to do that one of these years for Halloween.  Wouldn't be much scary at all, just fun. 

Some of my favorite historical figures ran little sideshow things in the old west as well.  I could have a lot of fun with a western setting.  Ah...'the petrified man' comes to mind.  Old gaff where you encase a cadaver in concrete and sell it off as a fossil.  Lots of times make it a giant or some such as well.

Maybe I need to open a curiousity shop....
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 09, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Side note:

HGTV has contacted us asking if I'd be willing to be on a Halloween special. 

I'm on the fence.  It's really against my nature to do such a thing, but all the martha stewart wannabe's that normally get on such shows really aggrivate me as well...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 09, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
They sure aggravate me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
We've finished all but the 2 ends on my tomb, and with nicer weather, I moved it out to do a test on the lawn for the first time. 

It failed utterly. 

It works fairly well on concrete.

However, when it's put on the grass, there's simply not enough of a gap on the bottom for the fog to get out. 

So, I see 3 means of fixing this. 

1, simply lengthen the legs so I get that gap.

2, related, add a sheet of plywood to the bottom so it keeps the present gap no matter where I put it. 

3:  My son's idea.  Drill holes into the back of the hoods on the pleurant (the little reaperish guys) so the fog comes out their faces.  (though, this would also work so it comes out the bottom of their robes)


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2srA4-b4KIY/T3kUR7ZLWSI/AAAAAAAAMdg/2DSbucG96yU/s800/IMG_6168.JPG)


So, what do you guys think would be the best solution? 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 14, 2012, 08:12:09 PM
The plywood, probably.  The holes drilled in the pleurants might be more theatrical, so much depends on how overtly theatrical you want to be...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 17, 2012, 10:13:41 PM
Mostly been doing yardwork lately.  Teaching my son what it's like to work, waking him up at 6AM on the weekends to go out, cut sod, till dirt, etc.

We probably have 1-2 more weekends of that left.


Placed a massive order for more foam coating, and have the 2 transi ready to attach.  Realistically could finish the tomb (aside from painting) in a day or two once it gets here.  And, I need to get that coating on sooner rather than later just to prevent damage.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 19, 2012, 03:08:09 AM
Awkward positioning required I stand my tomb on end to work on it tonight, and had to get the ladder out to reach properly.  I got a glimpse out of the corner of my eye and looked up....

tell me this is not a SIGN.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bn_69Oh9LCM/T7b-6pfaC1I/AAAAAAAAMqk/pn8F698po4A/s800/_IGP1273.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-abWzkMir-9s/T7b-6n0ZloI/AAAAAAAAMqg/sDplyS-WTB4/s800/_IGP1274.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aWRxbQH7upQ/T7b-6m4Y1XI/AAAAAAAAMqc/Qm5hZT-cZzA/s800/_IGP1275.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T_L1WksWBtw/T7b--BBSXoI/AAAAAAAAMq4/jr-G2OuATEQ/s800/_IGP1278.JPG)

Aint they cute?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 19, 2012, 03:26:54 AM
Sure, but a sign of what?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 23, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
Spiders are one of the two things I'm forbidden from incorporating for Halloween.  I mostly just pester my wife and brother with them. 


It's too bad too.  I left the prototype "Them" out in the yard ON so the boss could see it when she drove home at 3 AM.  Think cocooned trick or treaters still fighting against the webbing. 

yeah, that's been forbidden...for now.  I'm still working it...slowly. 


The other thing isn't worth the fight.  (bat people from beastmaster)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
I don't follow.  Who's doing the forbidding?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 24, 2012, 08:28:07 PM
My wife.  THE BOSS.  Boss is a sorta pet name for her as well, and I've made the kids well aware mom's THE BOSS, and what she says goes.  I'm the enforcer, and no one mouths off to the Boss.  In reality we're more equal partner than any couple I've seen, but that's probably largely due to our schedules.  She didn't like Halloween at all till I started this yard stuff.  Then, being another Gemini, she's come to really love the attention.  The party part is mostly her planning.  Trick or Treat is mine.   

Anyway.  I promise some new pics (after) this weekend, but in the mean time:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2srA4-b4KIY/T3kUR7ZLWSI/AAAAAAAAMdg/2DSbucG96yU/s800/IMG_6168.JPG)

Do you think I need some embelishments either over the pleurant, or the arches? 


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2012, 04:28:17 AM
...If you can think of something that would go with the design, I don't know that this sort of thing can be too busy.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 29, 2012, 12:22:01 AM
Kyle dropped the lid.   ???  Shattered. 

Trevor was only mildly damaged, but it's a significant setback.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 05, 2012, 01:55:43 AM
Daughter's Dance recital this weekend.


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x0Yz3m8AlLs/T8yeXvNg-pI/AAAAAAAAMww/oDjLsUX19uk/s800/IMGP1346.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8n3rW-UtaBw/T8yeXxb9LrI/AAAAAAAAMww/NejyB2pdmDU/s800/IMGP1348.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uD1kaVEiGDw/T8yeX4OIxiI/AAAAAAAAMww/wZ-dgA_b4YU/s800/IMGP1356.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EbbspFHqmXs/T8yeZVmmLhI/AAAAAAAAMww/6JM2Hl9xUws/s800/IMGP1358.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CereVBx95s8/T8yea1yowVI/AAAAAAAAMww/AYhO_3vpO1s/s800/IMGP1366.jpg)

Also got sidetracked and played a short game entirely about tombstones.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zwkfQ5lf2To/T8q221aqz2I/AAAAAAAAMvY/Ha-z1Z81x18/s800/IMGP1319.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HML_eqKYM_I/T8q22cVk1bI/AAAAAAAAMvQ/Wix2akMli-o/s800/IMGP1321.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gPUypGEuaVA/T8ygN6fDhlI/AAAAAAAAMxA/TEawg6gG8Io/s800/IMGP1324.jpg)

Which naturally got me toying with the idea.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Kzy-EcaGSlU/T8yeaAjVvSI/AAAAAAAAMww/mC6cgsKJwf8/s800/IMGP1369.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 05, 2012, 01:05:47 PM
Strong with the Force, Thalia is.  -But keep her away from those Sith tombs; some of those guys hang around.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 14, 2012, 05:28:43 PM
been in a funk since the lid broke. 

Finally got around to building a new one, have started painting it, and it's coming together nice.  Embedding cheese cloth into the paint (a masonry sealer, super thick, has sand in it, looks like stone) to give it some protection as well.  Going to have to break out some more cheese cloth/cotton balls to alter the sculpt some, as there's areas I just can't get the brush into, and they need to be waterproofed if nothing else. 

Try to get some pics up.

I'm in the house alone this week, and just have to get out, so I'm heading south for a while. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 14, 2012, 07:02:58 PM
I'll look forward to seeing more...

Those funks are bad news; for what it's worth, I'm rooting for you.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 15, 2012, 04:31:06 AM
Sorry, just going to copy my post over from Halloween forum, it might not all translate 100%. 


Wow, does this take some time!  Go to take pics of progress and it becomes more a to-do list.

So, Trevor's moving along nicely.  Started the drylok, but there was quite a number of situations to resolve along the way.  Yes...it's white...yes, that's an unorthodox choice ;), all part of the plan.  I think.  We'll see.

Since the break, there was a 1/4"-1/2" gap all around the base of Trevor's shroud and the new lid that had to be compensated for, so we blended in with cheese cloth as we went around.  Numberous other holes were filled similar where the sculpt itself made it impossible to paint. 

I'm noticing I have a fair few number of smaller holes left to fill after taking pics as well...those'll have to wait for the second coat...
Some holes in the folds here need to be plugged, for instance.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-maQX40AIUrI/T9qm-lZFmNI/AAAAAAAAMyQ/UVcD3XVDgqY/s800/IMGP1377.jpg)

Another hole just under the head here.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_GqgxdGQYgc/T9qm-qfyDAI/AAAAAAAAMyM/SsGfnegtJ6k/s800/IMGP1379.jpg)

MONSTER hole plugged up here under this arm. Blended in quite well, IMO.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RMu6tlhn07s/T9qm-pB4FOI/AAAAAAAAMyI/5_9aRaNAlrs/s800/IMGP1381.jpg)

Another huge gap was under the head.  Actually great stuffed in there first then the cheese cloth.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KyeKpJj0Rh8/T9qm-yU6XeI/AAAAAAAAMyY/3nR52Uck6_I/s800/IMGP1383.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bU9wyr0JW-A/T9qm_chqEzI/AAAAAAAAMys/ZoP0-YaVLaQ/s800/IMGP1387.jpg)

Moving around...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Zo2HqslKT1Q/T9qm_yZWXSI/AAAAAAAAMyw/t_ONyJL72zQ/s800/IMGP1388.jpg)

Looks like another one just in front of this hand, and might need to plug that hole next to the pinky.  There was a big hold underneath this hand and all down the forearm, wouldn't know if you didn't know where to look...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rlvX_8dyJPo/T9qm_3SruPI/AAAAAAAAMy0/5GQOiKP8ICo/s800/IMGP1389.jpg)

Missed a spot under the left elbow...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YDFbEDWKjF4/T9qnAFgQFXI/AAAAAAAAMy8/dy43YqrPUq4/s800/IMGP1390.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qXDWHM3JgGU/T9qnAOCPHLI/AAAAAAAAMzE/QBZFEfcYgXU/s800/IMGP1391.jpg)

Look, more holes needing patching...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kHUAmr8a3Zs/T9qnAF2xNuI/AAAAAAAAMzI/yKWVI1KUzrI/s800/IMGP1392.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 16, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
 ;uno Birthy Happday, Uno!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: sisko on June 16, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
Happy Birthday, Uno!  (http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/jade95_2010/HappyBDay%202-Blank/HBD%20Small%20Pics/hbd-smileys.gif)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 20, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
cant you just smell the suckage coming out of this trailer?

http://youtu.be/11yBPx-ymZA (http://youtu.be/11yBPx-ymZA)


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 20, 2012, 10:19:14 PM
Eh, I'm an extremely tough room when it comes to mad slasher flics...  Looks mighty generic, to be sure.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 21, 2012, 04:57:30 PM
You'll appreciate this, if you remember.  The boss is getting quite good at cake decoration.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tz20F-xjtbw/T98WIIn_c9I/AAAAAAAAMz8/l7PVa1YyK4o/s800/398903_379605562101989_1459442016_n.jpg)


Finished etching my first tombstone last night (can't believe those words came out of my mouth), will try to get some pics, might start painting tonight. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 21, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
I remember it well.

You must be talk ing about the first of a set - no way you painted your very first ever...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 21, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Yep, very first tombstone EVER. 

I've NEVER done a graveyard before. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 22, 2012, 04:07:13 AM
Tell me another one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 23, 2012, 04:19:49 AM
Hey, check my website.  My entire yard history is on there. 

First one ever...unlike anything seen normally. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8LEhk5gmiaE/T-U0x7Ea41I/AAAAAAAAM0k/-D6cX7c4BTE/s800/IMG_6290.JPG)

Closest in the past was African inspired burial grounds.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nz99mzxdnIU/SPyHNY3jFNI/AAAAAAAABds/UxheRhNwIuw/s800/IMGP1651.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 23, 2012, 12:36:23 PM
This would be your desire to avoid the obvious in action, yes?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 23, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
I don't see cemeteries as 'Halloween', personally.  Probably since most of our vacations were spent wandering cemeteries taking rubbings and looking for wierd names for my mom's books.

The kids want one, though, so we're doing it differently, yes.  (same with the burial ground)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 23, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Doing something different is good.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 23, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
The boss's (wife) grandpa died last night.  I'm executor (long story), probably be gone for a while. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 23, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
We'll miss you.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 24, 2012, 03:43:04 AM
We're having a great day. 

Kyle got injured on the Scout backpacking trip.  Couldn't hike well, SO THEY LEFT HIM, to take gear back to the car and told him to start walking slowly down and they'd come back for him. 

Guess what happened?  Yeah, so he was lost for about 3 hours this afternoon.  Missed the trailhead and hit the highway where he then found the trailhead. 

Rule 1 is the buddy rule, right?  Not to mention they took all his equipment with them to begin with so they left him with not so much as a water bottle.   

Oh yeah, injury last night, stick impaled bottom of his foot, they didn't even bother to rinse it off.  Great first aid practices there.  Already infected.  Yeah, great day...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 24, 2012, 05:56:01 AM
Wow, that's lame.

I didn't intend that pun.  But I'm too evil to take it out.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 05, 2012, 02:53:57 PM
Well, time for something serious. 


We've been inching towards making a business out of this Halloween stuff for some time.  Beginning July 10th, there's a real possibility it could become my full time job...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 05, 2012, 03:02:11 PM
How did you come to change your mind?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 05, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
Wierd [poop] going on at work right now.  As of July 10, I'll be on furlough that could turn into a layoff.  The company is trying to prevent it, but congress has really fubared some things.  Officially it should end sometime between September and late November if nothing the company does works. 

It's not entirely unforeseen, and we've budgetted so we're fine, I wouldn't need to look for employment until January if everything went to hell. 

So, what to do with the time off?  It's the perfect time of year to give ye olde profession another go.  This time I plan to focus on building/sculpting though, not the technical/setup/advisory stuff (though will likely do one or two haunts this year in that capacity as well).  If it takes off, I might stick with it, but it's equally plausible it'll drive me nuts to not have a 'regular' schedule.  I like my structured days.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 05, 2012, 08:14:34 PM
There's the thing too, with creative stuff, that it's nice to be able to walk away when you get pissed or stuck, as long as your subconcious takes to sort problems out.  Needing the money is an underrated source of artistic inpiration, but not a first-class one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 06, 2012, 02:37:09 AM
Yeah, I have a whole sketchbook I'd like to get sculpted.  Some non-halloween even.  Well, sorta. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 06, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
Still, making money doing something you're passionate about, that you've put a lot of yourself into, can be so sweet.  In my showbiz days, I eventually came to sincerely view the tips as the very best form of applause.  Y'know, the Andy Warhol thing where it was the best measure of how I was doing, not entirely just greed.

Not entirely not, either.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 11, 2012, 05:00:13 AM
Well, sounds like I'm going back to work next week, for an undefined length of time.  So, 6 days off, enough to get caught up on my stuff.

Day one:

About 7 hours getting my shop into shape.  All tools where I know they are, all kids stuff outta there, compressor oiled and tuned, etc. 

Finished the protective coat on side 3 of the tomb. 

Going to lose a day installing a basketball hoop for my son's birthday, but I expect to have the tomb finished this week. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 14, 2012, 11:48:19 PM
The painting of this tomb is brought to you by the fine people at Aleve.  As some of you know, I have some pretty bad tendonitis in my thumbs after an accident that dislocated them years ago.  (yeah as much fun as it sounds).  So, the (so far) 15 hours and 4 gallons of drylok on this thing wouldn't have been possible without popping plenty of them...


Tipping on end to add the foam coat to the last corners, and attach the final pleurant.  Can you tell my son broke off, and then fixed that middle one?  Thought I might not notice the monster mud EVERYWHERE. 


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MNnNBycEDCs/UAHy7rD5sGI/AAAAAAAAM94/lKZsavStf-c/s800/_IGP1449.JPG)



Since we've had some issues with the pleurant coming off, I added some cheese cloth with the drylok to help glue them on. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pPEnDSsZFrg/UAHy7us_GHI/AAAAAAAAM98/7g4cyWcbpEw/s800/_IGP1450.JPG)

We also added cheese cloth to the BACK side (inside) of all pleurant , and it's made the whole thing VERY sturdy. 

First side after a couple coats of drylok.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i-tArB9nNMU/UAHy7hVV0KI/AAAAAAAAM90/4dy_gRPtHWU/s800/_IGP1451.JPG)


Have some family obligations tonight, and need a few more coats before we can start detailing the whole thing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 15, 2012, 02:57:15 PM
Very nice.

You could do worse than a boy willing to try to fix his mistakes...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 16, 2012, 01:43:47 PM
Well, back to work today. Didn't get quite as far as I had hoped, but all sides of the tomb are now painted, and it's back upright. Just got to do the top and a few spot touches here or there. Probably have the dryloking done tonight, then we can see about the rest.

I must say, putting up a basketball hoop is more complicated than it appears at first.


Also considering building a Barghest.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 18, 2012, 04:48:30 AM
Little test....The one on the left needs some more attention, but I ran out of my paint mixture.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z5mKnkjNYnw/UAYwx63-kyI/AAAAAAAAM-w/7rDB8tGVvmM/s800/_IGP1456.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 21, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
My little paint helper.  We did a quick wash of Trevor.  Need to go back and do some dry brushing.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J-ELWXU3Fv0/UArMnq-gwXI/AAAAAAAAM_o/Nihcgc_yNBM/s800/IMG_6312.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OMqcFAifdy0/UArMnaZJfHI/AAAAAAAAM_k/kflCsVPiz10/s800/IMG_6311.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p8jTQssGGds/UArMmtuHkiI/AAAAAAAAM_Q/TaFY3wwuC3w/s800/IMG_6307.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JpyFADyM01o/UArMn34yGhI/AAAAAAAAM_w/KC4Og9ycR0I/s800/IMG_6313.JPG)

Tombstones as well. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Jm-K3Vii9RY/UArMoTq0z7I/AAAAAAAANAE/CW8glFLU2B4/s800/IMG_6314.JPG)

The tomb itself is 90%.  Just a couple spots to touch up.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MjeX0MEEvAs/UArMoQ0nhgI/AAAAAAAAM_8/4ivn1H0m5X4/s800/IMG_6315.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--y16C0QQ1S4/UArMoSYcNuI/AAAAAAAAM_4/lo5hUQxaW1c/s800/IMG_6316.JPG)

Any luck and I'll be doing a lighting test tonight, seeing if adding a 2X4 to the bottom fixes the fog dispersal problem on grass.  But, we might be getting rain, so who knows. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 21, 2012, 07:14:15 PM
That is lookin' mighty fine there, sir.

...

I fixin' to start a mask lesson with Buster her own self this afternoon.  We have an infestation of family for the last few weeks, which has been a decidedly mixed blessing...  I've only had one attack of nerves bad enough to make me throw up.

I love them, but not so much I like having so many people and dogs in my hermit cave...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 21, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
My anti-halloween neighbors come over to compliment me on it, even. 

"You finally started making some *REAL* art." 

uh, thanks? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 22, 2012, 06:44:09 PM
I guess a left-handed compliment is better than a rude gesture with the right.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2012, 05:02:27 AM
Alright, it was too windy to get in a good fog test, but I managed a little lighting stuff before the thunderstorm rolled in. 

(stupid auto focus..)

Little test with a blue flood and a dimmed green flood.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YlPoDziR8BU/UAzLAPB1EjI/AAAAAAAANBE/gsejfxaQTtY/s800/_IGP1460.JPG)

Reshot with a little tea light and manual focus.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7Hz9o0g7ko8/UAzLADW1LtI/AAAAAAAANBA/cAL5NXpmd4Q/s800/_IGP1461.JPG)

We're definitely going to want some of that warm lighting.  Has anyone had much experience with real candles?  Specifically those drippy candle thingies? 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mFg5eSikdak/UAzLAMcuuSI/AAAAAAAANA8/_613L_px6PI/s800/_IGP1462.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FQOy1GXsDrA/UAzLAgsM96I/AAAAAAAANBM/kYinuDiMjdI/s800/_IGP1464.JPG)

I so love the pleurant...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DPP8YP5rknQ/UAzLAebXACI/AAAAAAAANBU/KGJTdFL463c/s800/_IGP1463.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
That is mighty fine-lookin', sir.

Experience as in lighting with? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
It was more a question for the Halloween forum, I just copied my post over here cause I'm lazy like that. 

More a how long to they stay lit and how wind resistant are they, will they ruin the paint, etc. 

Yeah, I can make fake candles but they will look...fake.

I've never made any attempt to hide how Temple of Doom has influenced me, and I WANT THESE CANDLES.

(sorry for quality looking for better, jump to ~5:30)

Indiana Jones drinks blood of Kali Ma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_plI0XlrY9Q#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
Siiigh.  My &^%$#@! computer is messed up lately, and just ate the second long post I tried to make in as many days.  You'd have loved the story about the Massive Head Wound Ken candles.

...

If you're talking about the the drippy wax bases, try faking it with hot glue.  The stuff was practically invented for theater techs to fake that sort of thing, they use it so much.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 24, 2012, 01:52:14 AM
Yeah, that's how I made my last fake "candle" in 2008.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-75g6c_skZmU/SY-M06ljBzI/AAAAAAAACtI/gtYIIEQ0Yug/s800/IMGP1926.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NZVtG51WcBg/SY-M19FexEI/AAAAAAAACtY/xUtJOddR-pQ/s800/IMGP1929.JPG)

I spent quite a bit of research into how the wax should look...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OXeRIKjyv58/SUfDhWGUIuI/AAAAAAAACaA/45JYPxGO28Y/s800/IMGP1791.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g4QPL5ro59U/SUfDihpSvmI/AAAAAAAACaY/9cKRJ0_AwH8/s800/IMGP1825.JPG)

My concern is more with the flame.  I can't do fake "flicker" flame candles as they are known to trigger epilepsy episodes, and that won't do with the school.  That leaves constant on or real flame.  How to match up the fake wax to real wax realisticly is problematic.  Plus I've had some rather poor luck with real candles staying lit of late.  I'd have to find a quality brand. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2012, 03:45:50 AM
Hmm, yeah; I couldn't believe the technique wasn't familiar.

Perhaps you could build enough of the underlying structure and really wax in the rest?  I imagine you have to re-coat the thing every season, but if you bought your wax by the big slab and made your own candles from the same, that'd solve the matching problem.  Candle making isn't rocket science...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 24, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
I don't know if I mentioned over here, but one of our biggest projects this year was digging out a new garden bed, over 1000 sq feet of space, our goal was to become 100% self-sufficient for Halloween.  That means I need to be able to grow 100+ pumpkins myself, and enough corn stalks to decorate. 

Well, by the time the work was done it was late in the planting season and most places were sold out of pumpkins, and my goal was to focus on specialty varieties to provide some contrast this year, and test the new drip line irrigation we installed, having no experience with such things.  Mistakes were made with the garden.  I'm not sold on the drip line.  Next year, we're planting the three sisters method with pumpkin varieties that will not cross polinate so I can even save my own seeds.  That said, we're doing a lot better than I expected THIS year.

Our Lumina/Cinderella patch. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KWGCT1yEPKs/UA6ZnGAcwOI/AAAAAAAANB0/NlQFZgIrasY/s800/Picture%2520019.jpg)

Our Cinderellas actually were not doing well at all until the luminas overgrew them and shaded them a bit, then they took off like mad.  They also are planting secondary roots EVERYWHERE along their runners.  Rather interesting.

Cinderella on the right, Lumina on the left.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qs1QN8T2IU4/UA6ZolYwRXI/AAAAAAAANCY/pyHSY_MrUNk/s800/Picture%2520024.jpg)

We've had dozens of each not set on the vines, and have dozens more that are presently fertilized, but not set yet. 

First Lumina to set.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-twRZr0gD8Po/UA6Zn-gceSI/AAAAAAAANCQ/USu34jkjJf0/s800/Picture%2520023.jpg)

First Cinderella.


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-psTCYm6b-70/UA6Zn4A2osI/AAAAAAAANCA/eGlUNWQ_GJY/s800/Picture%2520022.jpg)


The volunteer patch out of the composting pumpkin guts from last year is slowly consuming the scarecrow.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7NH-5UMrRWw/UA6ZpAxO7CI/AAAAAAAANCc/WuzScjkaqvk/s800/Picture%2520025.jpg)

Some hybrid variety, can't place.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u8zVKBnhIgc/UA6ZpDPrQ9I/AAAAAAAANCs/EPP30BohKK4/s800/Picture%2520026.jpg)

I believe this is a howden or howden big.  First one to set, monster. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bLAN3IC7DuA/UA6Zp6_I1LI/AAAAAAAANCw/rBUPdOwz2Yg/s800/Picture%2520027.jpg)

The anchor that pulled the vine off the scarecrow.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v69TiTKUajo/UA6Zp-Aw5gI/AAAAAAAANCo/EfCsiEQ0ve4/s800/Picture%2520028.jpg)

Hybrid of Old Zeb's and something else.  No idea, but cool bicolor, hope it sets. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qmOAwFCzQ9w/UA6ZrJK0v6I/AAAAAAAANDA/m-EBxNC-Xt8/s800/Picture%2520030.jpg)

The corn. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JX0G69dHkQI/UA6ZrZ2aMMI/AAAAAAAANDQ/LaBJnrr_zEw/s800/Picture%2520031.jpg)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2012, 02:11:41 AM
Talia helping me with knocking out the rest of our tombstones last weekend


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z-T-UquiuHs/UBaLLo63IRI/AAAAAAAANGw/RpUHwKu6eKM/s800/Picture%2520040.jpg)

Unfortunately that's the last of work I've been able to do so far.  Family issues are crazy right now.  Unlike the taller ones (which are our names in the alphabet of the Magi), these ones are gibberish.  Or at least I think so.  I built templates of all the letters and Talia handed them at random to me,  so I could etch them with acetone.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i3jSmGoMy2I/UBaLLd_PF1I/AAAAAAAANGs/HUrttgXo1HA/s800/Picture%2520039.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2012, 04:11:28 AM
What're they for?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2012, 05:48:19 AM
The whole back yard will be nothing but the stones and Trevor.

PERHAPS some actors, assuming folks come through on promises.  I need to come up with some SIMPLE costumes for these potential helpers...


Anyway, the tomb's been giving me some technical troubles as a fog chiller. 

Chillers, in general, are designed to broadcast low lying fog in a particular direction.  NO ONE had attempted an OMNIdirectional version before like I am with Trevor.  The theory I had was that a simple circular ceiling diffuser at the end of the pipe would solve the problem, after all it was working great as a directional chiller, I just wanted to divert the flow a little....

Well, that murdered my airflow, rendering the thing useless. 

Inline fan was either too expensive or too small to do the job. 

Well, I got the problem licked, finally.  It's not elegant, but it works.  Replaced the diffuser with a larger fan. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8R6k0wOKTLg/UCHIS1evAlI/AAAAAAAANHs/syTKigcCp3o/s800/_IGP1468.JPG)

There is some concern this may be too much fan, but it has a slower speed if I need it. 
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ORl3ugiVaOA/UCHIS3IvgQI/AAAAAAAANHo/cT97NEO54zA/s800/_IGP1470.JPG)

I have a new, large, and expensive fog machine on backorder, so we'll have a full on, ice in the chiller, test run when that arrives. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Well, who woulda thunk it?

Since the lighting test pics above went online, 17 copycat tombs have cropped up around the Halloween forum.  I'm betting there's a retail version out by next year. 

Bonus being only one other is attempting a transi so far. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Green1 on August 08, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
I hear you about folks hating on you for not planting weeds from other countries in your yard and calling it "landscaping" and not obsessing over it. Also, the halloween stuff, they may not understand. But, hell, you are having more fun than they are.

Now I live in New Orleans, so all this stuff is not weird but commonplace, even though many folks like that have since moved away from the ignorance and humidity here to better places since. But, there is a story I would like to share about condescending nieghbors.

In my hometown of Jackson, MS, there are groups of old, bitter trophy wives who gossip and take credit for gorgeous lawns even though they sit in AC at the country clubhouse sipping mimosas and letting the lower class Mexicans and Blacks do all the actual work for a pittance. One of thier idols was Felder Rushing, a columnist in the garden column of that city's major newspaper. Now Felder loved the readership, but hated appearances with these crazed ladies who would turn allergic if they actually sullied hands in actual soil. So, one year, just to make a statement, he painted his whole lawn with biodegradable non toxic pink paint! It washed away first rain, but you bet those stuck up old biddies where crapping bricks!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 10, 2012, 05:00:31 AM
So...decided to go ahead and post this.  I do a lot of little experiments.  Some work, some don't.  I usually wait to see if it's going to work before posting.

I'm not even sure if I want to use such a thing, to be honest. 

We planted corn this year and as I was there cooking it tonight, I looked over at the husks...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wiUihF71t08/UCR4YErXc8I/AAAAAAAANIg/jtwOj4o5qLQ/s800/_IGP1473.JPG)


....and said to myself, I wonder what I could make with that?


Well, I got a good start, but reached a point where the glue needed to dry. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9FVEb2wJCiA/UCR4YJSJ7CI/AAAAAAAANIY/tQHv484rfBE/s800/_IGP1474.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2-Lxt66oUyM/UCR4YAVIHII/AAAAAAAANIc/en2DS0teXGw/s800/_IGP1475.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6ISECCqJkjA/UCR4YgewW2I/AAAAAAAANIs/hAO1NoE-4qg/s800/_IGP1476.JPG)

Not sure where I'm going with this at all.  Head?  Skull?  More?  Nothing?  who knows.  More to come when the glue dries and I can fiddle some more.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
Lotsa boring crap. 

Painting this, cleaning up that. 

My mother in-law retired from teaching, and I'm selling off the laboratory.  It was posted all of 30 minutes before it sold. 

Couple other commission pieces being made again as well. 

Giving serious thought to a major tone down in the amount of stuff I build next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
Howcum?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2012, 12:27:35 AM
Mostly money reasons.  If I save next year I can get a skulltronix for 2014.  That, and Trevor is good enough to use 2 years. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 29, 2012, 12:57:01 AM
But I love when you build stuff!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
I really only built Trevor this year.  Would maybe consider a second next year (sell Trevor), as I could do it a lot better now. 

Might build some things to sell, I have some more raw materials for things I wanted to ADD to the lab for instance.  A skulltronix is beyond my ability to build, however.  I'm not so good with the itsy bitsy stuff like making circuit boards, and one of these has been on my list for at least 5 years.   

http://youtu.be/JRUf1tsjrvg (http://youtu.be/JRUf1tsjrvg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 13, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
Wow. 

Finally able to get back on.  Update I see? 


Anyhow.  Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I find it extremely coincidental that 2 years ago, I started "the harvest" theme specifically because many folks found it to be a joke.  "Corn and straw is for kids only" 

MANY jumped on it last year. 

Well, it's the theme for Spirit(playing with new button there) stores this year. 

http://youtu.be/0rCUNKmxtLY (http://youtu.be/0rCUNKmxtLY)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 13, 2012, 10:51:45 PM
Update?  What?

You know that if they're biting your style, it's evidence of your greatness...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 16, 2012, 05:53:57 AM
The place looks different for me.  ? 

Different buttons when I post and everything.  Odd.

You also seem to be blocked at work now. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 16, 2012, 05:56:16 AM
In other news currently watching the Bride of Frankenstein on a really bizaar local show with a host in terrible makeup talking to a sock puppet.  I think I've found a new Saturday tradition...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 16, 2012, 06:10:02 AM
I don't know why things would look different - maybe you're in a different theme now?

BoF is genuinely good; you like the Monster Chiller Horror Theater treatment?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 17, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
Yeah, reminds me of the old radio shows.  "The Hermit's Cave"  Man I miss that thing...


Might be going back to our original tribal theme next year.  Ironically, it was a marching band that got me back in the mood for that thing. 



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 17, 2012, 03:35:51 PM
Marching band?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 18, 2012, 01:59:20 AM
Yep.  Marching band. 

I draw inspiration from really oddball places.  They weren't even doing much of anything special, but just the SOUND of it, oh, I gotta go back to the tribal with the drums. 

Even whipped up a name and banner fro the theme. (getting better at the photoshop stuff)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AeOWXjphNAE/UFfIaPmPtQI/AAAAAAAANXA/zcM0rl8JG0c/s800/primordi%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
Yah, you learn by messing around and doing it a lot.  That's not bad at all.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 18, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
Once I figured out how to utilize layers (thank you) it really became more simple.  I used to enjoy graphics design and would play with it as a child on the Apple IIe. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 18, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Did I tell you how to do that?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 19, 2012, 01:26:57 AM
Yeah, back when I was doing the title banner for my blog.  I had to go dig up that thread a while back to remember what we did. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 23, 2012, 08:52:26 PM


Didn't think it would come to this, but we grew WAY too many pumpkins this year (goal was 100, we grew over 200), so we have a stand in the driveway and the boys are raking in cash already today.  (Stand only been up an hour) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2012, 09:06:47 PM
Uno with too many pumpkins.

I need to think of a "mind boggled" smilie.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 23, 2012, 10:40:17 PM
Uno. wth. too. many. pumpkins.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 24, 2012, 02:38:23 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ahpfNatEBPE/UF-3H9NleHI/AAAAAAAANp8/Wbi5wLPsX8c/s800/IMG_6497.JPG)

Talia was thrilled to find this little one. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-idMLmeeYwy4/UF-3HLMbL8I/AAAAAAAANp0/uqVFxpwbHv0/s800/IMG_6498.JPG)

OUR set of pumpkins for the yard. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RGtG3tcHfvc/UF-3KVbsRqI/AAAAAAAANqE/MZ5CSs4O614/s800/IMG_6499.JPG)

The pumpkin stand for sale....after the boys has sold about 20. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hs-KeGfhHi8/UF-3W6yeWRI/AAAAAAAANq0/JJI7OKhUnhM/s800/IMG_6505.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2012, 03:22:10 AM
Have I mentioned what a little cutie that girl is?   :luv:  She never takes a bad picture.

It's certainly the right time of the year to have a pumpkin stand.  I haven't messed with any in decades, though; are they gonna hold up for five weeks, especially after they've been cut up two weeks early?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 24, 2012, 03:39:44 AM
Probably depends where you are.  They regularly keep through November assuming you don't manhandle them badly. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 24, 2012, 02:37:31 PM
So, Lagoon.  That local amusement park I occasionally go design/consult on dark rides/haunts. 


Yeah, they totally stole my raven grass decor.  I've been the ONLY one around decorating with the stuff for the last 5 years, seems they caught on and must have planted some of their own somewhere (though I haven't seen it on the grounds, maybe some local farmer planted some to sell?). 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4k7BxC2xg2U/UF--dl7OZxI/AAAAAAAAN-o/sJpcE21cjmY/s800/IMG_6388.JPG)

Also noticed that after shitcanning my concept for them last year to open their western themed town up for a haunted area (it's normally been closed in October), guess what they opened as their new haunt this year? 

Unfortunately, they had their in house folk make it into a kiddie land instead of a really cool area. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u2ify2zFOB4/UF--4DjLBkI/AAAAAAAAN1I/KWQhWhPK6BA/s800/IMG_6465.JPG)

Opening weekend, of their 4 haunted houses, my 4 year old design prison haunt remains the busiest.  Probably helped because I designed it to be ultra low tech completely actor driven, and the other prop driven ones had broken rooms half the time.  Great set of actors in there this year, too. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n7ktIhCUHGY/UF--uedrMQI/AAAAAAAANx8/qVyTcuSYxZE/s800/IMG_6441.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 24, 2012, 04:55:57 PM
Good actors can really polish a turd.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 26, 2012, 06:25:56 PM
Of all the dirty rotten no good lazy....Half a mind to drive up to Oregon and give em a what-for. 

Anyway, Davis Graveyard has totally ripped off credit for the transi-tomb, claiming in several industry publications to have originated the idea and suggesting it as the next big thing.  Wouldn't be so infuriating if I hadn't specifically given them advice and suggestions during their build. 

Their SHROUD tomb, not transi, bastards, so now everyone's going to be ill-educated on top of everything else.  I've been suggesting everyone do shroud tombs if they aren't comfortable sculpting a transi since you can hid poor sculpting, but this doesn't even look like any attempt at sculpting more than the most basic of forms.   

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mUZyX2qfs0Q/UGM4h97Mf0I/AAAAAAAAOA8/qutcKPcGXj0/s800/IMG_8354.JPG)


 >:(
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
Its gotta be good for your ego to get ripped off so much.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 26, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
It might if they had acknowledged it at all.  No, they are a big famous group that does the conventions and everything.  Now it's all THEIR idea/origin.  Lots of folks have been emailing me saying they saw these articles now.  It wasn't exactly hidden, me helping them build that in the first place. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 26, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
Have I never mentioned that people are no dang good?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 02, 2012, 04:11:58 PM
Been exploring the more Martha side of Halloween this year in preperation for a Witch's tea for my daughter.  The cutesy stuff is almost as much fun as the regular stuff.   :o
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 02, 2012, 04:41:19 PM
 :o indeed.  That's funny.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 02, 2012, 08:50:16 PM
Maybe it's just the novelty, but having never even had a sister, this girly stuff is a whole new experience for me.   :)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 02, 2012, 09:56:46 PM
Goths call it "Goth pink" and claim it's an advanced style.  The irony of it, not doubt.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 04:22:17 AM
So, apparently someone made a god awful remake made for TV miniseries of Jason and the Argonauts. 

It features some of the worst CGI I've ever seen, and they utterly destroyed among the best scenes of the original movie, replacing the skeletons with these plant soldiers....


The plant soldier things are not a bad idea....
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 04:25:53 AM
Is that the one with Dennis Hopper as uncle Peleus and the weird created-by-Hera Heracles?  If so, the special effects didn't register on me, and I thought it was very good.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 03:40:55 PM
Uh...I'm not a names person, so don't know. Mmade in 2000 according to the guide info.  Didn't immediately recognize anyone, but only watched the uh, plant monster scene. 

Anywho...

heh. 


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Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
2000 sounds about right; it was really very good, aside from the special effects - and what they did with Heracles' background was strange, but the character was cast and played well.  Somebody bothered to research classical hairstyles, though that's dubious as to Jason's time, it's certainly how the classical Greeks would have portrayed it.

...

Do I take it that you regard this as good news and a shot at publicity?  We felt that way last year when some online thingy wanted to use one of our mask pictures in a slideshow.

...

I think I've figured out what the Halloween smilie needs to finally get that candle-flickering-inside effect working right.  ;uno  More on that soon.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 04:14:26 PM
I find it a very strange picture to want to use, but otherwise, yeah. 

I've also been featured on Pumpkinrot for the 5th straight year.  We're very similar in our vision of Halloween, some consider 'boring'.  He's been an online presence a hell of a lot longer than I, though, and is more famous in that way. 

His place last year:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iRI-_S7caUA/UGxVsQzfltI/AAAAAAAAODw/Jy32FxZ8EN8/s800/halloween2011_33.jpg)

But, with me doing the graves this year, some of that will be lost this year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Green1 on October 03, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
Uno, your pics remind me of a guy named Egytian Bob who used to live in the French Quarter before Katrina. While he did not have as nice of a place that you have and and only had an old slave quarter he rented overlooking a courtyard, his place was much like yours.

That was one interesting guy.

Good memories.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
THAT is pretty cool-looking.  Have you seen it IRL?  Does it really look that good?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
Nah, he's on the other side of the country.  He is the better photographer of the two of us, I will say that. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 04:40:19 PM
I can see that there's a fog machine, so it's certainly not all just good photography.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 04:49:57 PM
Oh, no, he's an amazing artist as well, but he's a far better photographer than I at the same time. 

Partly because I still haven't figured out the secret of photographing in fog.  It plays havoc with camera settings.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 06:42:15 PM
I'd like your input here: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2264.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2264.0)  You can to skip to the last few pages if you like, where Green1 suggests doing something with all the players in the private space race.

...

The trouble with the Halloween smilie was that it plays on the forum with the default timing of 100ms, instead of the values I entered.  It also needed a lot more frames to pseudo-randomize the flicker.  I'm almost done with the frames, and don't know what to do if a new file has the same timing problem...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 07:24:52 PM
 ;uno



Siiigh.  The extra frames are a big improvement, IMAO, but the file plays roughly 10 times quicker on average on GIMP - much more flickery.  When I open it in a plain IE tab, same problem. 

I'm gonna email you a copy; maybe it'll work better for you, and you might find a use for it on your website.

Here's the old one for side-by-side comparison: ;uno; ;uno
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 08:20:59 PM
I'd like your input here: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2264.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2264.0)  You can to skip to the last few pages if you like, where Green1 suggests doing something with all the players in the private space race.


What are you actually needing? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 08:26:59 PM
Oh, you follow them space cowboys - just general input and feedback.

Did you get the smilie email?  Happy Unomas.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 03, 2012, 11:47:12 PM
Yes, but I'm not sure what to do with it just yet. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 03, 2012, 11:53:47 PM
If you need it bigger or something, let me know.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 04, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
All my consumables are arriving this week. 

battery check. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yIuMNvmBScE/UG2aM8DUZaI/AAAAAAAAOEI/1vHdIveiwr8/s800/Picture%2520074.jpg)

Special fog juice came in last night, should be able to do a full on Trevor test this weekend.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2012, 03:36:22 PM
Do those flicker?  I found out candle flickers are hard to do.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 04, 2012, 04:02:32 PM
No, most the flickerers are too regular for my epileptic guests, so they are a no go. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 04, 2012, 04:05:10 PM
Pseudo-randomizing WAS part of the challenge.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 05, 2012, 02:03:43 AM
Just got email my favorite no chance in hell for me to ever win photo contest has started up again. 

I realize Trevor is the best chance I'm ever likely to have when the annual winners of the decoration contest are store bought skeletons and repurposed christmas lights.  I doubt I'll be doing anything so mainstream again any time soon. 

The other Halloween contest I used to enter annually (only to lose to skimpy costumed girls) is not even accepting my type of sculpture.  Miniatures....pah.  waste of time. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2012, 02:23:35 AM
I hear you, man; I never win anything arbitrary like that.  I was in a group at a con once in pretty good Dr. Who costumes, who lost the costume contest to a little kid in a store-bought wookie costume.  It's just disgusting.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2012, 04:11:49 AM
You know a little about webpage building/editing; could you have look at the Council Room thread about rescuing the Firaxis AC pages, and see if you have any helpful suggestions?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 05, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
Yeah, I couldn't get the original pages to load, so I'm a little lost on what you're trying to accomplish. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2012, 04:49:19 PM
See the OfficialAC button at the top of the page.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 06, 2012, 07:55:21 PM
Sold the lab, permanenty this time. (have had 3 buyers back out/not show)  It's just down the street, another teacher going to use it for the same school I built it for.  Nice and karmic how it worked out. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 06, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
[nods]  Good show!

-So to speak.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 07, 2012, 05:09:54 AM
Professional haunt, actor doing his thing, scaring the boys, turns his attention to me (wearing one of my site shirts with the Earth O Lantern).  "Uno, that you?  Man, can't wait to see your stuff this year." 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 07, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
 ;rotflmao

Fame at last!  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 07, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
Whoa, did you avatarize me?  My settings seem to be for no avatar...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 07, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
I did.  I didn't have the blue pumpkin handy this morning, strangely enough, but I since picked it up.  You want that, or turn it off?  You're a valued member.  I'll hook you up however you like.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 08, 2012, 03:55:40 AM
I know.

I've been avoiding it for a hell of a long time. 

Full on ice in, big fog machine chiller test on Trevor.  Partly because if it didn't work right, I honestly had no idea where to go after this 4th redesign. 

http://youtu.be/GxpXfgDc7GA (http://youtu.be/GxpXfgDc7GA)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CDfafCx8bAU/UHI-hu-bVqI/AAAAAAAAOGg/TOoPNlS5V_M/s800/IMG_6532.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PhnsSnE4X2Q/UHI-jcs717I/AAAAAAAAOG4/lZX7cqT1PPY/s800/IMG_6539.JPG)

I think it's safe to say I can relax some.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 08, 2012, 03:56:47 AM
 
I did.  I didn't have the blue pumpkin handy this morning, strangely enough, but I since picked it up.  You want that, or turn it off?  You're a valued member.  I'll hook you up however you like.
  Definitely the pumpkin
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 08, 2012, 03:59:57 AM
On it.



--And the Trevor test?

 ;b; :clap: :salute: ;excite; :danc:

It looks AWESOME!!!  Full marks, sir.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 09, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Why We Love Halloween
By Ned Smith, BusinessNewsDaily Senior Writer | LiveScience.com – 1 hr 6 mins ago.. .

 
A dark and scary economy is not going to spook consumers this Halloween. A recent National Retail Federation survey shows that seven in 10 Americans (170 million) will get their haunt on this year, the most in the NRF's 10-year history, and will pump $8 billion into the economy. What is it that makes Halloween more seductive than a vampire's kiss for consumers?
 
It's more than just a last shot at fun and games before the winter solstice ices us, suggests a Wake Forest University academic. There are deeper reasons for the spending spree and our intense interest in vampires and zombies, said English professor Eric Wilson, author of "Everyone Loves a Good Train Wreck: Why We Can't Look Away" (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2012). It's because humans have a natural fascination with the macabre, Wilson said.

 Halloween puts people in touch with their inner little monsters, he said.
 
Miguel De La Torre, professor of social ethics at Iliff School of Theology in Denver, agrees.
 
"People enjoy flirting with the dark side and spooky characters," he said. "Since the earliest accounts of the Halloween celebration, there have been tales of dark chaos, and costumes have been included in interpretations of the observation. People love a good scare, especially when we know we are inherently safe."
 
Humans' fascination with the dark side has made Halloween the second-largest commercial holiday behind Christmas.
 
It provides a perverse pleasure to celebrate death and destruction, Wilson said, particularly in a time of financial crisis when many come face to face with their limitations and mortality in unpleasant ways. There is a kind of ecstasy in transforming into another creature and dressing up as dead things such as zombies and vampires, he said.
 
It also gives people permission to do openly what is usually done in secret: wear masks.
 
"To get along in the world, we constantly pretend to be nicer or happier than we really are, especially during a difficult economy, when to get and keep jobs, we are expected to put a good face on things," Wilson said. "On Halloween, it's okay to come out as a mask-wearer and feel relief we no longer have to hide."
 
But the root cause of humans' fascination may be that kinship is forged with monsters because they are possessed by an uncontrollable force – neither zombies in their quest for brains nor vampires in their quest for blood are able to stop or reason through their hunger.
 
"We can imagine the satisfaction of living without accountability, casting off humanity and turning into machines without morals," Wilson said. "Zombies overcome death, vampires rule time, ghosts vanquish space and vampires and other shape-shifters transcend a stable identity."
 
And they are simply scary and people like to be scared.
 
 "It's the ultimate thrill ride," Wilson said.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 09, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
Wow.  I would have thought that a business article would have at least fact checked.

Quote
Humans' fascination with the dark side has made Halloween the second-largest commercial holiday behind Christmas.


Nope, not close. 

Halloween is #5 in spending.  And, until you can convince everyone to hand out presents to ToT's it will remain so, behind Easter, Mothers day, Valentines and Christmas respectively.

It's only #2 in DECORATION spending.  And laughably distant there. 


As to the whole 'why we like Halloween, this is my go-to article:

Quote
October is a magical time of year. There is a chill in the air, the leaves have begun their own slow display of fireworks, brightening the sky with vibrant oranges, reds and yellows, and all the Halloween decorations begin to appear. Jack-o-lanterns grin eerily out from the doorsteps, scarecrows stand ominously among bundles of high cornstalks within yards all along the street and as the sun begins to set the shadows come out to play, carrying with them a creepy sense of mischief that inspires laughter and fun.

The Halloween season offers a special kind of joy that is simply not present in other holiday celebrations. While the emphasis may seem to be on scaring the bejeebers out of your friends and neighbors, the real gift of this season comes from the sense of freedom and creativity it entails. Halloween is the only holiday that is based on an open concept rather than a particular event. There are no boundaries, no limits, and no expectations to fulfill. You are free to be as playful and original as you wish.

This aspect of Halloween is one that should be cherished because it affords us the space to be as silly as we want while also nurturing our inventive sides. Parents can encourage their children to choose any character or costume that they would like to be for Halloween, and then spend time helping their child to make the costume they want to wear. Families can also take advantage of the season to bond as a unit by voting on one theme for the entire family, such as the Addams Family or The Incredibles. There is nothing quite like the feeling of belonging to a cohesive group that is easily recognizable in public. It really establishes a fun sense of being part of a team.

Larger projects, such as haunted houses or mazes can also be an excellent event for the whole family to join together in building. Many people use their yards or garages to set up a simple haunted maze that the trick-or-treaters can walk through if they dare. These sometimes take a lot of work, and getting the family and friends involved stimulates a great feeling of comradery among those who worked so hard on it. And the satisfaction derived from the screams and nervous giggles of the people going through the maze is unparalleled.

Some people go to quite elaborate lengths to create an environment that is fun and scary for their neighbors to experience during the season. They spend months designing and building facades or effects that they display in front of or inside their homes just to entertain people with a fun scare. This is a gesture of hospitality like no other, presenting parents and kids alike with an experience that they are unlikely to ever forget. For those who do this, it is an offering of themselves to the guests who will come to their door, a whimsical engagement in the fun and frivolity of the season that represents a genuine interest in joining in the fun and enhancing every person’s Halloween eve. In return, they are gifted with the opportunity to briefly take part in the lives of their neighbors if only for the evening.

There are many neighborhoods in America that actually gather together and decide themes for their entire street during Halloween. Each neighbor then builds a façade or decorates their house in accordance with that theme. These can be extraordinary sites to behold. For instance, one street created an old western theme in which each home had built a different set in front of or surrounding their home, so the whole street looked like something you’d find in an old western movie. Another neighborhood made a pirate themed experience, with a nine foot tall pirate ship that spanned several house lengths. These kinds of things can definitely bring a community together.

Neighborhoods that don’t want to go to such extremes can still benefit from this time of silliness and fun. Parents often work together, within their own neighborhoods as well as the surrounding streets, to create a fun and safe environment in which the children can enjoy trick-or-treating. The adults take turns with street duties, keeping the passing drivers aware of the presence of all the kids in costumes and helping the children to cross the street safely. They accompany the kids as they go door to door so that they can meet or chat with the people on their street with whom they have limited contact otherwise. This is a convenient and non-intrusive way to introduce oneself to the neighbors living on the street, or get to know them better. Communities who know each other tend to be safer in general than those who aren’t acquainted with the people living around them.

There is no denying that Halloween is a wonderful holiday, one that brings people together in unique ways. The freedom of style and expression it offers makes it the one holiday when we can truly share our own individuality with all of those around us while celebrating theirs as well.

http://www.halloweenarmy.org/free-content/halloween-is-community-building (http://www.halloweenarmy.org/free-content/halloween-is-community-building)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 09, 2012, 09:14:45 PM
http://youtu.be/vQMkrdzD3xM (http://youtu.be/vQMkrdzD3xM)

Unfortunately, don't think I get chiller network.  :( 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 09, 2012, 09:28:51 PM
Had you never noticed before how little journalists seem to let knowing nothing about something stop them from trying to explain it?  It's rather the standard in mainstream non-specialty journalism when it reports on science.  For another example, every new story about the internet in the 90's was at least in part about how the internet was going to rape all children forever, and you know I'm not exagerating much.

Former pro reporter speaking here, remember.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 10, 2012, 05:46:00 AM
http://youtu.be/0RfNl9fcJtM (http://youtu.be/0RfNl9fcJtM)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 10, 2012, 05:55:13 AM
I still trick or treated when i was 17, but I wore a costume and chaperoned a little kid.  You get nothing when you're big if you don't take a kid.

I always designed my own costumes, BTW - I don't know how people with mothers who don't sew live.

And interestingly, kids getting up to no good on Halloween night is something I've only seen on TV - it's just not a thing here.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 10, 2012, 02:12:49 PM
The raising hell thing is traditionally more common in rural areas.  I'm not sure where it stands at present, though I was a naughty boy on halloween night a few times.  Lucky I never caused any accidents as our go-to prank was tossing dummies in front of cars. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 10, 2012, 02:15:43 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9IHkLLxdgH8/UHTrzQzmQJI/AAAAAAAAOII/E-N0EnTs7YQ/s800/IMG_6548.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 10, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
This is a rural area.  I had the impression it was an urban thing.

Very commedia del arte' with the plague doctor.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 10, 2012, 03:03:40 PM
http://youtu.be/cqxfjG_imzA (http://youtu.be/cqxfjG_imzA)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 10, 2012, 03:30:32 PM
Completely different tone, but the approach reminds me of You Are There with Walter Cronkite, which was on CBS on Sunday mornings late-60s, early 70s.  It was a great show, completely serious and very educational, but interesting IIRC.  You're probably a teeny bit too young to remember it, or never saw it if your family weren't CBS people anyway.

(The kids will never be able to wrap their heads around the way people tended to be total channel partisans before remote controls took over in the 80s.)

It might've been You Were There, if you're interested in looking it up for your kids or something.  I remember Cronkite covering the Trojan War...

Plague Doctor is on my to-do list when I get back on masks someday, probably in the spring; Buster's Aunt wants to do a set of commedia del arte' mask, for which, you'll recall, I intend to use your face for the Captain/braggart warrior character.  You have a wonderful chin. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 11, 2012, 03:09:57 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AxKH5Z3hRuo/UHYnp0y2qbI/AAAAAAAAOIs/OQX5hCHnLQM/s800/IMG_6550.JPG)

Well....candy shopping done. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
 ;lol

Go big or go home!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 11, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Guess old haunters don't retire after all.  Something of a mentor of mine.  (Obviously not where style is concerned)

http://www.scaredhaunt.com/index.php (http://www.scaredhaunt.com/index.php)

Too bad he turned over his last professional place (the one I helped out with last Christmas) to a bunch of...well, they're more interested in the business side of things where Max and I were much more about promoting haunts as a means for charity.  The charity first professional haunts are now extinct in Utah.  :( 

Lest I win a lottery or something. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
I guess it's safe to assume that that focus impacts their creative decisions in an unfortunate way.  You seem to interact with enough pro haunts that it's tough to know which one sometimes, not that I kill myself keeping track.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 11, 2012, 06:54:01 PM
yeah, I bounce around a lot.  I like the design phase, not so much the operation phase, mostly because of the business end of things.  I'm happy to act in one, or do makeup, or maintenance, sure, but the business end of it?  Bleh.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 11, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
Bleh.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 12, 2012, 02:05:23 PM
The guy who bought the lab just happens to live by my son's junior high (like right next to the parking lot), so stopped last night after his choir concert.  He's the more normal kind of Halloween buff.  A horder/collector, yard looks like the last 10 seasons of Spirit Halloween puked up on it, and had to listen to all the details politely, smiling saying how great it is.  Yeah, that's 'rare' and that's expensive and wow you got that in a trash can and managed to repair it...this is a big part of the reason I don't go to any of the groups.  (yes there are halloween groups that meet to share whatever crap thet come up with or all build the same exact thing together...why?)  His handfull of original props he'd purchased off other haunters (like myself, builders).  I just couldn't help sitting there thinking what was the point?  Ah well, bless them for clearing up storage of us builders.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2012, 05:30:53 PM
Some just don't have to drive to create.  Nothing wrong with that; they are needed to support the artists.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 12, 2012, 08:35:47 PM
Took a drive down through farm country. 

I realize I really show my agricultural roots.  Most the decor there is more 'fitting' to me, and most houses are decorated.  Sure, the city folks with all their plastic stuff don't like it much, but it's 'right'.

Saw the most amazing thing whilst driving too. 

Some guy selling corn stalks.  Nothing shocking about that, I know.  But, these were 15' TALL CORN STALKS.  MONSTROUS things.  Never seen the likes of it, most tops out at 7' around here.  He says they make monstrous ears of corn, too, but it's no good for eatin', just feed for cattle.  He plants it because of extremely high yield.  Gave me some seed for the spring, but it might be too much for the three sisters planting I was planning to utilize. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2012, 08:40:42 PM
You scored some giant corn stalks, of course?


Yankees and city people may find farm country amusing and contemptable, but they're jerks and will all die fast when disaster strikes.

I love me some old crumbling barns.  Reminds me of the area my dad grew up in.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 12, 2012, 08:52:45 PM
No, my little tercel is not fit for driving 15' corn stalks around.  Strapped to the roof, couple red flags at either end, I can see it now...:lol:

Just got off the phone with the local news. 

"But we were told you were one of these Halloween people, when will you have it set up?"

"I won't be set up until 10/30" 

"Well, why not?"

"I don't need to use it until then." 


*click* 

Darn, guess I won't be on TV this year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 12, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
SOB really just hung up on you?  :o
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 15, 2012, 04:45:39 AM
Preparing for the witch's tea. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QsMPQ6l0r3U/UHt8wTZZVPI/AAAAAAAAOJo/_vIvOuI9-Jw/s800/IMG_6555.JPG)

It's probably been 10 years or more since I last pulled out the halloween cutters.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-shmTNSIgTPg/UHt8uoor9xI/AAAAAAAAOJU/d9aBk1dbLDU/s800/IMG_6553.JPG)

My Chimera needed some attention...

After being OUTSIDE the ENTIRE YEAR.  A year that saw winds RIP THE ROOF OFF THE HOUSE, he needed a little shoring up at the joints...and that's it. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gwBn82slAdE/UHt8xhJ4OwI/AAAAAAAAOJ8/kItd7hxeaIM/s800/IMG_6558.JPG)

And, since early October is mostly just goofing around with things at our place, I figured we'd honor breast cancer awareness by making him PINK.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t2VBvUpYmEo/UHt8yNdzFHI/AAAAAAAAOKE/pEKdMRIuw_s/s800/IMG_6559.JPG)


But, some neighbors were getting a little nervous at the lack of visible activity this year (and strange things like selling off pumpkins) so I had to get the sign out, at the very least. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rBjgQVB4SPo/UHt8xVftdQI/AAAAAAAAOJ4/8nLJb1tvXwU/s800/IMG_6557.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2012, 04:56:55 AM
Interesting. 

I hope the Halloween cutters were for salt dough or something, and those aren't big cookies on the garage floor as it appears.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 15, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
http://youtu.be/887krFvSqXg (http://youtu.be/887krFvSqXg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 15, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
One of the really cool things lately is being able to witness people grow into their own.  Friend of mine from Idaho:

Last year:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IOsQWT4PMn4/UHwiv1GdInI/AAAAAAAAOL0/yXvaiyxh24k/s800/PICT0073.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cTOVLnleIGE/UHwivn59KMI/AAAAAAAAOLo/rxKe1xOODD4/s800/PICT00h.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7wqKTNuJxa4/UHwivnmFR7I/AAAAAAAAOLs/9RYZsEaJdI8/s800/PICT0031.jpg)

This year:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Mq74XF9qbV0/UHwhRLHS64I/AAAAAAAAOKs/2zr6XI3ZZyU/s800/3605_3935965200685_891209777_n.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yTMs1LwGwvk/UHwhRLnquuI/AAAAAAAAOKw/-EXp3CWq8Ck/s800/580906_3935964800675_253919567_n.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U0xJ79BDkHE/UHwhRIRsewI/AAAAAAAAOK0/dw4ZnaBbAbk/s800/hhh13.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rPXzzQV1AXg/UHwhRnJ_cRI/AAAAAAAAOK8/LXAUTvvfHJE/s800/hhh2.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sfV9D4q0kzI/UHwhRyHgW5I/AAAAAAAAOLA/EkMRGcQb6aw/s800/hhh3.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L86IbRUwroc/UHwhScgCjyI/AAAAAAAAOLI/OfdI--DgcYc/s800/hhh4.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 15, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
I feel that way when a graphic modder I taught gets good.  That's a lot of progress away from the generic, rather predictable stuff of last year.

Which is a lot of the difference between art and hackwork (or more accurately, what I call "pipe-cleaners-and-glitter crafts").  He clearly started with some craft and skill - add better creative choices, and there's art.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 16, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
So, the long range forecast is showing our annual storm arriving on Oct 26 this year.  (We ALWAYS have a storm within 7 days of Halloween)This isn't terrible, there's very little non-waterproof we have this year, just concerned it'll slip into either the party or Halloween itself.  (the party would actually be worse for us).  I'll probably leave the tomb out of the weather (unless it's on halloween) even though he'd most likely be perfectly fine.  It's more a question of whether wind comes with the rain. 

Speaking of, long range is listing a bit of a breeze for Halloween.  I'm hoping that gets removed or it'll ruin the whole ground fog effect.  Ironically rain would be very GOOD for it.  Especially a cold rain. 

Resisting the urge to build something else this year.  Even headstart items for NEXT year.   I'm normally all rushing around finishing things, not having stuff to do is strange. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 17, 2012, 02:24:39 PM
So, hanging tree ghosts are now lynching victims. 

http://fox2now.com/2012/10/16/zoo-ghosts-cause-stir/#ooid=10eXk3Njo4azZ1ObXlYlBtZW7ORsKW4B (http://fox2now.com/2012/10/16/zoo-ghosts-cause-stir/#ooid=10eXk3Njo4azZ1ObXlYlBtZW7ORsKW4B)


God, I hope the Turks don't start going all PC over impaling decor...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 17, 2012, 02:30:15 PM
Uno, you're white - it just doesn't seem the same to you.

Granted that it gets INSANELY annoying when everyone is under pressure to never offend anyone - that's been the ruination of far too much popular entertainment, and why anything, for example, to do with God on TV shows is so bland and generic that any church people with brains in their heads ought to be offended by THAT.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 17, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
No, I get a lot of it.  The hanged dummies get a complaint just about every year, and I understand those.  I understand nooses in general are a no-no.  This is stretching it.  There's no nooses, they are hung by string.  I'm not seeing lynching victims AT ALL.  Frankly, it looks a lot more like a lynch mob than a bunch of victims ( last time I checked they didn't typically dress up their victims).  All the (black) people interviewed in the video agree with me. 

Guess it's a lesson to not make your ghosts in human form.  Cut the bottom of the robes and shred them to waft in the breeze and it's much less 'human' in appearance. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 17, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
The whole white sheets thing is a problem, what with the associations they raise, even though they make no rational sense.  This isn't much about rationality, and it's a very unfortunate juxtaposition...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 18, 2012, 02:45:41 PM
My Idaho friend is being taught the lesson of why I don't set up until the forecast covers Halloween...

Most destroyed to a storm...Same storm ripped through here, I lost a light bulb when my sign tipped over.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 18, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
You are Uno, and you are sinister and wise.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 19, 2012, 12:26:36 AM
still far enough out to be nebulous, but extended forecast is for rain/wind/snow on Halloween now. 


I'm actually OK with that, provided our party remains clear. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 19, 2012, 12:28:14 AM
"provided our party remains clear"?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 19, 2012, 12:46:04 AM
Yeah, the party the night before is more important for clear weather than Halloween. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 19, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Oh.  I guess that makes a certain sense - a miserable day for Halloween is somehow appropriate.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 19, 2012, 02:35:37 AM
More like the night before is for the immediate neighborhood, Halloween is for the random masses.  Fewer than 1000 people this year wouldn't be a BAD thing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 19, 2012, 02:52:38 AM
Ah.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 19, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
I'm continually looking forward to NEXT year this go-round. 

Looking into my book of all things uno, and I have 2 pages dedicated to this year, one on Trevor, one on lighting.  That's just sad. 

Last year, "nothing but some corn and pumpkins" has 10 pages.  Mostly Chimera designs.  (20+ designs, 3 made)

NEXT year has 38 and counting.  Im going to have to do some serious triage to figure out which I can actually make happen in one year, and a lot of it is mandatory tedium.  Depends on whether the kids help or not how much original stuff gets done.   

Another year of skull production might just be needed before I can accomplish some of the other concepts. 


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 19, 2012, 07:59:23 PM
Another year of skull production is no bad thing and no small one. 

I've been thinking in the back of my mind for a while about making a full skull myself - when that idea reaches maturity and I do something about it, I'll mail you at least a mold.  I might do the research and make a neanderthal.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 19, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
Yeah, I'm looking for new skull models right now.  The Chinese female I normally use is getting a little bland...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 19, 2012, 08:27:47 PM
Easy enough to build her up into a man and cast off that, isn't it?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 20, 2012, 02:58:05 AM
Starting to get real anxious about this year
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2012, 03:00:40 AM
Yes?  Tell me more...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 20, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
I'm in a holding pattern for a few days before I can start working, and it drives me nuts.  12 days left and nothing is finished yet.  Tick tock and all.  Even though in reality I could do it in 2 days, it's still nerve racking.     

I also have a real problem with the graveyard.  I really want this to be a 360 degree graveyard, but no such thing has ever been designed before.  Lighting for graveyards is designed to be a display, not a walkthrough.  Can't get a proper lighting scheme right in my head (which I tend to visualize real good).  I can pull a cheap display out of it, but really want a whole walk around Trevor. 

Probably pulling out the bridge for repairs this weekend, that will help, but I'm going to be stressed until I nail down the lighting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2012, 03:37:26 AM
I doubt I can visualize it well enough to give useful input even if you posted diagrams and pictures.  I doubt I know as much about lighting as you - I've been a tech a lot less, I think, though the broadcasting college study fills in a lot, there.

Find a small project, or several, you can work on while you wait - doesn't even have to be related, or anything for this year.  Cleaning the creative pipes is good.  Do some easy stuff for fun.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2012, 03:42:44 AM
...Come to think of it, though, a real graveyard is going to probably be lit by a single source off to one side - the moon, or a streetlight, depending on how diffuse the lighting you prefer.  Cast a lot of long shadows...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 20, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
And all the stones face a single direction.  That's my problem, I want a path down the center with stones facing towards the middle.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 20, 2012, 12:19:22 PM
Well, that's a set/staging problem.  You don't have time to get fancy with it at this late dayte, do you?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 20, 2012, 11:59:01 PM
Well, I'm just going to have to break some 'rules'.   Unconventional, but I've had a dream. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sebiZ4N49cI/TpenO6siucI/AAAAAAAAKl8/9RQlDQkgZyw/s800/IMG_2993.JPG)

Only with fog.  So something akin to...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8BEyejHKNXQ/SPyHSHUT8rI/AAAAAAAABe4/yCdAQSBeVf4/s800/IMGP1661.JPG)

Only with tombstones.  (^that was the last time I even approached a graveyard, kids built that one alone)

This would leave Trevor's side lit more normally, thus drawing easier focus to it as well, it also brings the audience into the scene casting the shadows right over the path.  In theory.  This is just not a typical design at all, but has always fascinated me. 







Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 21, 2012, 12:02:33 AM
[nods]  That could work...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 21, 2012, 04:05:49 AM
Quote
Due to recent flood of vandals and thief's, I suggest everyone brings their props and decor in the garage and set up on Halloween day. Don't leave your house on Halloween, and take your props down that night after the ToT's have came and gone. Furthermore, if you live in a neighborhood that isn't particularly safe please take every precaution necessary to avoid the whole debacle of vandals destroying your haunt.

Suggestions for a stress free Halloween:
1.) Set-up Halloween day, and bring in valuable props that night
2.) Install motion detector flood lights
3.) Install CCTV camera's and/or dummy camera's
4.) Stay home and watch over your haunt
5.) Hand out candy on your lawn or near the door (so you can monitor your display).
6.) Use "caution" tape attached to 3-5' stakes and make a perimeter around your graveyard or etc. scene.

Prevention is the best means of avoiding this whole ordeal

Sounds fun, eh? 

My response:

I set up only the week prior. Most likely to be vandalized only the night prior.

I've had 3 incidents:

1. neighbor kid broke some stuff and stole some other stuff. When his mom found the stolen stuff, I convinced her his punishment was to learn how to build stuff by helping me build...and let him keep some of the stuff he built.

2. Couple years later Friends of this kid: "Hey, we should trash that place tonight" Kid: "No way, that guy's cool." (Actually overheard this)

3. The most perplexing case happened last year Halloween night. We had 120 pumpkins in the yard, a dead on bullseye for smashing. ONE solitary pumpkin "smashed"...but looked more like dropped after an attempted theft. I believe it was one of the developmentally challenged children that came to help carve, but have no real clue what was up.

I guess my point is that my form of prevention is involving all neighborhood kids in the CREATION.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 21, 2012, 04:27:24 AM
I'm not a car guy, but I have done the lab at some halloween car shows...that's a strange crowd.

http://youtu.be/eu2xcMlLzes (http://youtu.be/eu2xcMlLzes)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 22, 2012, 02:29:55 PM
T minus 3 days till vacation. 

Weather channel has Halloween officially on the forecast now.  Beautiful weather for both 30th and 31st.  NO wind, mild temps. 

Some other sites disagree. 

Windy as all hell today.  Been raining all night, supposed to rain/snow on through Thursday.  We did get the bridge up over the weekend, but I have a lot of repairs to do on it as well. 

My brother and a neighbor are annoying me.

It's no secret I'm happy to help with Halloween events, but both called last night with huge "do you have _____ I can use".  HUGE lists, even.  I'm not the local Halloween store.  My favorite being "could you make a brain out of crystal like your skulls?"  Fair question, just don't get upset when I explain I need $40 in materials to do it. 

I've been avoiding negativity, but back to my brother for a moment. 

So, the whole bizaar situation has continued, but he had to move his store to cheaper rent over the summer.  I went in and installed wood floors in the entire new location for them.  I was mostly bored, it was that week I was off work unexpectedly so no big deal.  Anyhow, this mostly got my parents off my back about not 'supporting' him enough.  Cause, ya know, my being out of a job indefinitely at the time (even though it was only a week) didn't matter as much as getting my brother's business moved on a self imposed time schedule. 

Anyhow, he calls because the local businesses are doing a 'Trunk or Treat'.  He was (or more accurately his wife who was in charge) embarrased last year when other businesses actually put effort into some decor, and handing candy out of a truck just wasn't up to par.  So, he wants me to do their stall. 

He also wants me to supply decor for a church party that he's in charge of.  (cause he's gone all religious on us)

Oh, and he needs my firepit for a cheerleader party for his daughter. 

I'm actually OK with all that, PROVIDED I get my stuff back in time.  He's also supposed to bring a sound system for me every year, so he'll "just bring my stuff back with the sound system".   

We've run about 50% on him actually bringing the sound system over the last 10 years.  And some times it's very last minute (5 PM on Halloween).  I can't be getting my stuff back last minute.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 22, 2012, 02:32:08 PM
I suppose there's no use looking him in the eye and saying that?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 22, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
It hasn't helped in the past. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 22, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
I'm contemplating trying with my brother again soon - you know, try to work out the overall problem between us.  I don't have the answers there.  It's been left to fester for too many years.

Much of diplomacy, however, is in figuring out the other guy, not just what he wants, but why.  Once you have that, the rest is salesmanship/negotiation.  It's all too true in loving relationships, and definitely in dealing with strangers/aquaintances.  It's tough to sort in bad family relationships, not least because you're seeing the trees and so are they.




The crystal skull thing is fairly easy, given the molds, but resin is, as you say, expensive.  And I hate working with the stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 23, 2012, 03:23:00 AM
Flash flood. 

hm.  Repairs to the Chimera better hold up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 23, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
Continue to be hammered this morning.  We don't typically see rain like this around here.

I will say the Chimera looks totally wicked by lightning. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 23, 2012, 02:03:56 PM
How badly hammered?  Like, how hard's it raining?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 23, 2012, 07:40:37 PM
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/utah/weather-radar-24hr (http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/utah/weather-radar-24hr)

I'm in the red blip there.  Can't tell if that's 6 or 8" in the last 24 hours. 

Considering our annual average is only 18", it's an unusual storm.  And it's not done yet, but it's just a light drizzle now. 

All in all, it's a blessing for me provided no flooding.  Soft ground to drive all those stakes into.   :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 23, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
Which way is it traveling?  Surely toward the east, after you've been in it for so long already.

I didn't know there was a city of Nephi - it's like it's a state full of Mormons...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 23, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
It's heading NE, the problem is the great salt lake just feeds these things until a high pressure manifests.  It's just random where along the mountains gets the worst of the GSL "Lake effect".  And this storm, that's me.   

Nephi, Lehi, Brigham, Kolob, yeah, we're full of Mormon names, but at least you can pronounce them unlike some of the various native american names that pop up as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 23, 2012, 08:17:11 PM
I kinda hate for those guys that they couldn't have their state of Deseret.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 02:04:10 AM
http://youtu.be/ZsA8ucRhBvU (http://youtu.be/ZsA8ucRhBvU)

I'll do a full on review as soon as I can find a copy...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
That was very annoyingly-slow loading.

For some reason, in the freeze-frame that shows before you play it,  the horns didn't register on me, and I was trying to recall if the Red Skull had ever done a gig as a carny...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 04:22:18 AM
A LOT of crypts are cropping up this year.  My whole hiding the fog chiller thing struck a cord and folks are doing this on all levels, it's pretty cool.   

Here's one to hide a lot of technical aspects in plain sight,  Really great idea if you like the graveyard scenes... 

http://youtu.be/F67dVCBMb-8 (http://youtu.be/F67dVCBMb-8)

(yeah, that's the average artistic ability for the hobby) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 04:33:29 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ylNXsmV12rQ/UIdhL2CNvxI/AAAAAAAAONw/yJCZRiFdqJs/s800/47430_433662436696301_1670514123_n.jpg)

(the corn was taken down by me to weather the storm, so no trouble there, as it looks)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
8 hours till Halloween begins...

Still snowing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
Lordy, here it hit 78 degrees yesterday.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
ugh.  Why did they have to schedule so many motors for my vacation....(and not tell me till today...)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
Motors?   Rocket motors, and you're missing the fun (and the pay)?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
The fun will happen later. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
That's a yes?  You were talking about your job?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 05:53:46 PM
What?   :whistle:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 06:01:51 PM
Security issues?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 06:28:20 PM
Meh.  http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/nssrm/initiatives/rslp.htm (http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/nssrm/initiatives/rslp.htm)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
...If Green never looks in on this thread, it's his own fault he missed that...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 07:34:00 PM
2.5 hours.... :wall:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
Boy are YOU ever chafing at the bit.  I'm about to miss you for a few days, aren't I?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
Depends.  If all goes according to plan, I'll have plenty of free time to relax.  I just plan for everything to go to hell. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
You're in hell now.  It's 80 degrees outside here at the foot of the Appalachians.  I don't know why so many people live in the uninhabitable parts of the US.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 08:26:16 PM
80 is way too hot for me.  40-50 degrees is my ideal. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 08:27:14 PM
Speaking of those hills you call mountains back east though, I might just end up having to move to Virginia...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
They are wonderful hills, and I would have to come meet you in meatspace if you did that.

80 is very much the exception in October  :o but better than snow flurries.  Get real.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 24, 2012, 10:00:07 PM
http://youtu.be/p7c6NbUPMIc (http://youtu.be/p7c6NbUPMIc)

 ;woohoo  ;uno
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 24, 2012, 10:06:37 PM
Cheerleaders in stretchy pillowcases, hmm?  You have anything to do with that?


:danc: ;uno  :danc:
GOOO TEAM SPOOKY!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 03:35:54 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i2ww7kwneNg/UIiafxRUjmI/AAAAAAAAOOM/F5O1Iw31Hrg/s800/292840_434262086636336_262352175_n.jpg)

Getting crap for my brother, cats gotta inspect. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 03:49:10 AM
They look like the cat's tickling them or something's very funny, and I snickered a little myself seeing it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Snow actually stuck last night.  2" and counting.  will get pics at first light. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
Oh, if you only had some Evil Santa stuff handy...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 01:05:36 PM
Someone built a snowman with a pumpkin for a head.  Saw it on the news, hilarious. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 03:50:46 PM


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-57ISZLGK1z0/UIlQNHvAv6I/AAAAAAAAOOo/lsOLipGhG7g/s800/IMG_6563.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5NGTKTH43Nc/UIlQPQYWCOI/AAAAAAAAOPY/m8QS5s1iaCE/s800/IMG_6569.JPG)

Good thing today was mostly focused INSIDE for Talia's party tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
It's 59 degrees here in America ATM - you wanna tell me more about those hills I call mountains?


Got anywhere good for the kids to sled?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 04:03:22 PM
Yeah.  This is GREAT! 

Time release water is the best. 

Seriously couldn't be better for me.  By Saturday when I'm setting up the yard, this will have melted and the ground will be nice and soft. 

Typical Halloween weather. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
You want mud?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 05:01:39 PM
YES.  Much easier to drive stakes into.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 05:06:36 PM
Not if you've been vaporized by lasers as part of the international spaceflight community...

Much easier for the stakes to pull out, too, and the the foot-traffic damage to the yard is exasterbated.  I find this surprising.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 25, 2012, 10:53:36 PM
It'll all dry by Halloween night.  So, mud now is good.  The boardwalk is the damage prevention anyway.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 25, 2012, 11:40:30 PM
That's asking the universe for perfect timing, which you know better than to do.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 26, 2012, 05:40:57 AM
Universe, black magic, whatever works. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 27, 2012, 01:05:34 PM
Uno goes cutesy:

Here's the setup prior to a pile of hyper girls descended upon the house. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LZBg0URNuuM/UItemSeZR2I/AAAAAAAAOSY/HDguhIFIAg4/s800/IMG_6572.JPG)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vTs_tFNeh24/UItenG9_8lI/AAAAAAAAOSc/jpeJ3u5MnIE/s800/IMG_6573.JPG)

Just wanted to point out a bit of nostalgia here.  I made this table cloth when I was a teenager.  More of a wall panel at the time, but it still finds uses.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OjLRdVV2SRQ/UIteoNWVUqI/AAAAAAAAOQk/nnFPH_VU3x8/s800/IMG_6576.JPG)

Just before party time.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O30vnporkGQ/UItepiY-xRI/AAAAAAAAOS0/GZkbmhPjRMs/s800/IMG_6583.JPG)

Of course, what do you think caught their attention first?  Hallowindow V's skull bounce, of course.

http://youtu.be/OONpicisFdA (http://youtu.be/OONpicisFdA)

Making hats.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g7xBk4K17Pg/UIteqJ6qS2I/AAAAAAAAORQ/VYM0nmdiDC0/s800/IMG_6587.JPG)

Making cookies.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WBxVgwXx--g/UIteqmv0NLI/AAAAAAAAORY/FENDa-DUNhA/s800/IMG_6588.JPG)

Some of the hats.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TuP_CirQHcM/UIteqyc2u5I/AAAAAAAAORk/O02jEIw21Ek/s800/IMG_6589.JPG)

And of course spellcasting

http://youtu.be/_G8PwEb7mo4 (http://youtu.be/_G8PwEb7mo4)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 01:53:31 PM
That there's some sucessful Uno cute.  One imagines the girls' parents might freak at the spell thing, but I guess they knew whose house this was at.  Getting one over on Thalia is good - even at her age, she's about seen it all.

I suppose the tablecloth was scribbled-with-wax before-you-dyed-it deal?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 27, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
No, that's some fluorescent paint, it was part of a "dot room" I built for a professional haunt I did way back when. 

In case you're unfamiliar with the dot room concept:

http://youtu.be/PVH2CWazldY (http://youtu.be/PVH2CWazldY)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 27, 2012, 02:51:16 PM
Silly me.  I should have spotted that it was black light stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 28, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
So, this morning...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mC2KwQ6D-Ko/UIx2HycTb7I/AAAAAAAAOTo/FN2G8vMImAk/s800/IMG_6591.JPG)

Kinda put a damper on doing a whole lot, so we focused on getting what shopping we had left to do for the upcoming party. 

This afternoon, most the snow was gone, though, and we got the place mostly wired, so we're ready to start throwing stuff up tomorrow. 

Also got the gate set.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wd7deezplkg/UIx2HwBLziI/AAAAAAAAOTk/bEPPvig5DlQ/s800/IMG_6592.JPG)

I think Indy has the right idea, stealing my jacket...
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Co52IsBTD-c/UIx2H8gZ56I/AAAAAAAAOTs/FUci3AVLuDE/s800/IMG_6593.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 01:22:50 AM
That IS a fine-looking mountain in the first pic.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 28, 2012, 01:55:17 AM
Better than a hill.  ;) 

(old camera test)
front door 30 MM:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PwZZo7sZEBY/S_CJuEOj4LI/AAAAAAAAGTg/9RlVSAXCnzU/s800/IMGP0003.JPG)

300 MM

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yEb3CsSugWU/S_CJtoBbXxI/AAAAAAAAGTc/ee0yoUY92aA/s800/IMGP0002.JPG)

600 MM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WFxx3UgD7hA/S_CJu6cYCII/AAAAAAAAGTo/PfyrvBHLqY4/s800/IMGP0007.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 01:02:34 AM
They look majestic and all, and attractive with a little snow on, but I wouldn't swap the tree-covered living beauties in sight of my house for the whole range.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 28, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
Well, TALIA put up the graveyard today.  Bossing me around, telling me to cut the stakes down ("We don't want them to see it's just a stick putting them up") and where to put everything. 

~70% completed with the yard. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
:D  She knew her business, did she?  Looks AND brains.  Better guard that one carefully.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 28, 2012, 07:59:59 PM
She's going to be a force, that's for sure.  She loves this stuff as much as me, but she'll be getting some actual support instead of discouragement. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 28, 2012, 08:04:21 PM
Well, that's exactly how to get little artists started; take care of the heavy lifting (actualy drawing, whatever) under their direction.  My mom did that with us - I never wore a store-bought halloween costume after the age of six, for example, only my own designs - and it works.  As I grew up and got more patience and controll of my motor skills, I gradually learned to do things for myself.  She helped me become a writer the same way.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 02:14:02 AM
Talia's the artist of the family.  She already draws better then the boys.  You show her to draw something and she'll reproduce it great.  One of the things I do with her is we exchange messages and pictures.  I'll draw something on her chalkboard before work, she'll erase it and reproduce it for me in the afternoon. 

Her pumpkins, all drawn and cut by her.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LP6zWmTIc8U/UHt8ujn5NZI/AAAAAAAAOJM/0CrQe5vJiDw/s800/IMG_6552.JPG)

Alec is our actor, though.  He LOVES acting. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1MC2ogdzAws/TXKdRSOz5iI/AAAAAAAAIqI/6tXcCofo5fU/s800/IMG_5443.JPG)

To the point we have a hard time getting him to be himself at times.

Kyle is the singer, of all things.  Especially song and dance broadway stuff. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 02:15:50 AM
Playing around with the backlighting.  Decided to bring them up off the ground, gonna have to rewire it in the morning, but it's looking good.  The full moon this year is working WITH us, which is unusual. 

Need to full on fog test tomorrow as well, decide if any of the machines are going in the front. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 29, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
I like your kids more and more the more I hear.  I really wished you lived closer. 

Does anyone in the family sew well?  That's Momma's primary medium, and it's hard to beat for a mix of artistic outlet and saving many thousands of dollars a year.  Something to teach the kids early, as much as you can.  I'm very glad I know what she taught me.

Is Alec the one whose face you also sent, or Kyle?  Mom commented just tonight that he's a very handsome young man.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 03:06:46 AM
That was Kyle.  I'm not sure Alec would be able to sit still long enough. 


No sewing. 

Well, I can a bit.  Only hand sew, though.  No machines.  I made up my own hood pattern this year as a 'just in case' bunch of costume pieces.  (Hood and uh, whatever you call the shoulder piece, ren fair crap)  Sewing the seams with (imitation) sinew.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 03:13:37 AM
http://youtu.be/ZsA8ucRhBvU (http://youtu.be/ZsA8ucRhBvU)

I'll do a full on review as soon as I can find a copy...


Um....

Errr.....

WTF was that? 

So, essentially a modernization of some aesops fables, and a bunch of symbology that really makes no sense if you don't follow the authors flung into a haphazard musical.  Couple of expertly lit sets but otherwise fairly worthless. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 03:16:22 AM
Cabin in the Woods (finally watching) shopped for their set pieces at Ikea....
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 29, 2012, 03:23:45 AM
Hand-sewing is a basic skill everyone should have.  Period.

YOU - you would get more use out of basic machine-and-making-things-from-scratch skills than most.  That's British understatement.


You'll love this - back in college, I rarely went home on the weekends.  It was usually pretty quiet, and on Saturdays, I often got out my sewing kit and did repairs on my clothes.  You know what I look like and I believe you know I'm 6', 230 pounds.  People passing my open door in the dorm would see me sitting in the back of the room sewing - there would be sitcom double-takes, where their heads would pop back into the door frame to be sure they saw big hairy mean-looking me sitting there sewing.  I'd look up and go "What?"

It was one of the mostly beautifully subtle mind-intercourses I ever did to people; and all I had to do was leave my door open while I did part of my weekly routine...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 29, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Unfortunately I'm biased against sewing. 

Mom being the unabashed hippie, she sewed all our clothes.  Which would have been fine and all.  But, a boy can only get in so many fights for having rainbows and flowers on his jeans.  Hence second thing I did when getting my first job at the age of 8 was buying myself a couple pairs of proper jeans for school. 

I view it as a last resort type thing.  The hoods being a case in point when internet wanted $50 or more for some, which is ludicrous.  I like the hand sewn look for that kind of stuff as well. 

It is a point that my fat ass is unsuited to the standard costume available in stores, however.  I have a couple people that are capable seamstresses in those cases. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 29, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
[shrugs] My mom didn't believe me about how tight my Sunday shoes were, and I still don't like wearing shoes now.  When I do set foot out of the house for anything more that a cigarrette run, I put shoes on anyway, 'cause it ain't worth fighting society's irrational reaction.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 29, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
Hey - this is a GotM ideas post that I thought I'd share, 'cause I don't know that anyone on the team 'thinks' horror.  Naturally, I thought of you...

It just struck me...

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=407)

The background concept I had in making my first faction was always "lab experiment run amok". 

You know what?  There's a really creepy horror story in that.  Anyone think they'd like to write some horror?  I'll be glad to help, but I'm not a horror guy, so someone else needs to take point.

I've also done a Planet Cult version of same, with the worm taking Cha's place entirely, and there are two worm factions in the NN stuff. Definitely GotM possibilities there.  Deirdreworm could even be a controlled clone, so the Gaians and Cult could still be in there - or not...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 30, 2012, 11:44:24 AM
So what's up?  This place was down for me last night. 

I'll have to look at that after Halloween.  Scifi is not my thing, however, and I've never got AC working on this computer, so it might be rough as I haven't even touched it for a couple years.


Preview 2012. 

Keeping in mind there's 100+ pumpkins to carve and add to this, plus the fog chiller has no ice for the preview here.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qDfXdJfcf4k/UI84C6JaBOI/AAAAAAAAOVM/AY4I2YuLeG4/s800/IMG_6598.JPG)

Chimera.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-83aaZnHdvzE/UI84EOFNPZI/AAAAAAAAOVc/UdHMzpb9-uQ/s800/IMG_6600.JPG)

Fence 2012

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HVQ6rwqUtx8/UI84EX0d4nI/AAAAAAAAOVk/JKBqOOnDnLQ/s800/IMG_6601.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MbXYO-inqzo/UI84EmPYwDI/AAAAAAAAOVo/K4Xsqcy21RY/s800/IMG_6602.JPG)

Talia (5) designed the graveyard, putting up the stones where they stand now.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MbXYO-inqzo/UI84EmPYwDI/AAAAAAAAOVo/K4Xsqcy21RY/s800/IMG_6602.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NONT6ljbNQ4/UI84GF2-gwI/AAAAAAAAOV8/uxXM7hbuHdg/s800/IMG_6604.JPG)

Of course, Trevor.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7pfmRA-tC0I/UI84GLATkiI/AAAAAAAAOWE/Rmo5bbcEulo/s800/IMG_6605.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 30, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
But what good is DAY shots?  Sorry to say I was lazy and this is a point and shoot crap camera that is currently only working thanks to a STRING I have rigged up to hold the functions.

If the 2012 fence doesn't say "I dare you to enter" I don't know what will.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2ofVJuyhEks/UI84JxJg4uI/AAAAAAAAOXA/kWcC6ogVwqo/s800/IMG_6614.JPG)

I do love bifurcating pumpkins.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VxXkTLXscYY/UI84NiUgZVI/AAAAAAAAOXs/_IGrJNZj1hw/s800/IMG_6624.JPG)

What waits through the fence.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5GCsFxBUExM/UI84LJuXL5I/AAAAAAAAOXY/bUxJoC7KKWs/s800/IMG_6619.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V4YMsbisA1A/UI84MXoLZPI/AAAAAAAAOXo/ZJw7yyMR2cE/s800/IMG_6621.JPG)

I realize I need more candles for Trevor, gonna fix that tomorrow.

The chiller without ice was also causing some havoc, so we turned the fog off.  But before that, had to snap this.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uURzCxrobEQ/UI84MjWBOxI/AAAAAAAAOXk/klWmJg3NZJs/s800/IMG_6623.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zi_6Q3ehY_I/UI84OpBwNvI/AAAAAAAAOYA/fPNPnDPZbb0/s800/IMG_6628.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-guoQo1rFJ5E/UI84PKIxaHI/AAAAAAAAOYI/X4napZQp2tE/s800/IMG_6629.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 30, 2012, 01:52:40 PM
Wondering how long the diet of fruit and caffeine is sustainable...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 30, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
Problem with the server - the hosting service claims it's fixed now.


Beautiful work as always.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 30, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
Quote
NASA Pumpkin Carver Creates Curiosity Space-O'-Lantern
By Clara Moskowitz | SPACE.com – 2 hrs 19 mins ago.. .

 
For this year's "space-o'-lantern," veteran pumpkin carver and NASA employee Liz Warren honored what may be the biggest space event of the year: the Curiosity Mars rover.
 
Curiosity landed on Mars in August, and for Halloween this year Warren carved a silhouette of the rover on a pumpkin. Warren has a longstanding tradition of carving space-themed pumpkins, which have usually honored space shuttle and International Space Station missions in the past.
 
"I carved a Curiosity design this year because in August of this year, that mission truly captured the imagination of the world in bold NASA fashion," Warren told SPACE.com. "They dared a mighty thing and they succeeded."
 
Warren, an employee at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, says Halloween is her favorite holiday, and has used the occasion to carve likenesses of space mission patches onto gourds in recent years. [Gallery: Warren's Space-y Halloween Pumpkins]
 
"The idea to carve a Curiosity pumpkin actually came from an astronaut familiar with my previous space-o'-lanterns," Warren said. "It's breaking a little with my tradition of featuring human spaceflight, but NASA's missions are broad and so I feel good about broadening the topic of my pumpkins."
 
Curiosity is a $2.5 billion car-size rover that's beginning a two-year exploration of Mars' Gale Crater. The rover's nail-biting landing this summer, which went off without a hitch, captivated the public and marked a major success for NASA. One element of Curiosity fever centered on charismatic NASA flight controller Bobak Ferdowsi, whose stars-and-stripes Mohawk hairdo garnered overnight fame.
 
"Bobak Ferdowsi is going to be in Houston late next week and I think it would be fun to give him the pumpkin!" Warren said.

 For any other would-be space-o'-lantern carvers, Warren has outlined some tips:
 • Find a simple image of your pattern online. For her Curiosity pumpkin, Warren found a Curiosity photo from NASA's website. "Importantly, the design included the entire rover and the rover was all in the same perspective plane," she said.
• Set the image so it appears in black-and-white, high contrast, to help clarify the major features of the design to "help you decide what parts of the pumpkin to remove and what parts to keep. It is important to plan ahead before you start cutting!"
• Print out the image on paper and cut out the white portions of the design.
• Lay this template on the pumpkin and use a pen to trace along the cutouts. "For this Curiosity design, I actually didn't cut all the way through the pumpkin," Warren said. "I used tools to scrape away the skin to allow light to shine through from within. Sometimes, you have to scrape away a lot of the interior wall of the pumpkin to allow light to shine through.
• Ultimately, have fun: "Be patient, be flexible (sometimes you have to change your plans as you go), and have fun creating your Space-O'-Lantern!"
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-pumpkin-carver-creates-curiosity-space-o-lantern-190510149.html (http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-pumpkin-carver-creates-curiosity-space-o-lantern-190510149.html)

SO - a secretary or cleaning lady, or they would have mentioned what she does at NASA.  Lame, even by feature journalism standards.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 31, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Carving party 2012.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-55TH7L8N4ns/UJCTE-IPUGI/AAAAAAAAOZw/w3enpdCq93I/s800/IMG_6631.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jp9EyBLsCHg/UJCTE96PREI/AAAAAAAAOZo/Ckg6LhAnaB4/s800/IMG_6632.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3gejofHFEEk/UJCTE6LiaHI/AAAAAAAAOZs/ChyT7J5glPw/s800/IMG_6633.JPG)

Taking a walk to make sure some were getting to the graveyard...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jtZmLGskat8/UJCTGwWHnZI/AAAAAAAAOaI/j7kgACPgPnc/s800/IMG_6634.JPG)

It was at this point I got sidetracked by a couple young artists coming to ask me loads of questions on sculpting, so my pics of the party part kinda got put on hold, will raid my wife's camera later.

Impressive talent this year. 
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SJiEgIP0bn4/UJCTHy75NDI/AAAAAAAAOaU/feaCl6npzPc/s800/IMG_6637.JPG)

Told you I was fixing the candle thing...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ERSQEr-clx8/UJCTHw5cslI/AAAAAAAAOaY/y0qSwpjWcmU/s800/IMG_6638.JPG)

Ok, string camera sucks...time to break out bertha...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 31, 2012, 03:44:53 AM

The front is featuring the Chimera this year...and he deserves it.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p7YDDDur5uo/UJCYQCcJMWI/AAAAAAAAObU/zDMvILVpInw/s800/IMGP1484.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yYpT7uZlg7c/UJCYQCaRrMI/AAAAAAAAObQ/_BAREHJwCgI/s800/IMGP1485.jpg)

Some joker shoved a light in Fred's mouth...probably will do the ribs tomorrow as well.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AkhC5rUa18s/UJCYRH47jSI/AAAAAAAAObg/h-yqFvsCKfc/s800/IMGP1486.jpg)

Heading to the back.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GZcpQIvAx5k/UJCYR3M6sPI/AAAAAAAAObs/UE8lY_YZ9Eg/s800/IMGP1490.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-husqpD1LcGs/UJCYScftHfI/AAAAAAAAOb4/JLHH6o1LfY0/s800/IMGP1492.jpg)

UNFORTUNATELY, the party still going meant too much light pollution from the house and firepit to get proper shots of the back...we'll get some tomorrow.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1aTcO9ykqMA/UJCYS3IL2NI/AAAAAAAAOcA/6DaCGXQBv48/s800/IMGP1493.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GuuILVzFotQ/UJCYS3rGZmI/AAAAAAAAOcE/O9Px-TrdaG8/s800/IMGP1494.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 31, 2012, 03:45:12 AM
The pumpkin(s) on the right here was the project of 3 teenagers for 2 hours. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MoXRbIFJU8A/UJCYTDNAQWI/AAAAAAAAOcI/dFqxn_a20Rk/s800/IMGP1495.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 31, 2012, 03:48:40 AM
No kiddin' about some impressive talent this year.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 31, 2012, 02:24:44 PM
School sent home a "no blood" rule yesterday, so there will be some changes for tonight.  Alec's first "real" makeup.  Not bad for an hour. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xMZruBUHYcM/UJEz2u_Wx4I/AAAAAAAAOdA/qFcw5h64Rns/s800/IMG_5040.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HFv4CusUss4/UJEz2i0R4UI/AAAAAAAAOc4/d-S6HvC1A0I/s800/IMG_5042.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 31, 2012, 02:27:58 PM
Not bad at all.

Very kind of the school to give you so much advance notice.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on October 31, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
We're eliminating the nose and expanding the mouth tonight, but that's not really something you send a kid to school with and expect them to be able to eat lunch. 

And, yes, there will be blood. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 04:18:36 AM
http://youtu.be/wgL9jC5Ba6E (http://youtu.be/wgL9jC5Ba6E)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 04:23:40 AM
Best comment from the book this year:  Better than the Catacombs and Nightmare on 13th.  (2 of the local professional haunts)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 04:29:06 AM
Eh, you already knew that.

Nice vid.  How did you get that tarted up with sound fx so quickly?  Or was it shot last night?

I wish I could have seen it for myself.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 08:57:01 AM
Yeah, that was shot at the end of the night last night.  That's our soundtrack. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 10:02:51 AM
ah, the annual entry into the photo contest I have no chance in hell of winning...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 12:40:40 PM
What was my Halloween like, you ask?  Well, I didn't raid the candy bowl until around 9...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
No food or drink in my mask for the duration.  I was SHOCKED that most kids understood the entire black death theme of the yard thanks to Assassin's Creed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 04:09:59 PM
A thing that the big Christians never got about D&D was that thanks to that, my brother knew what a lycanthrope was.  He's working on his dissertation now.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
His theology dissertation.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 06:45:20 PM
Quote
No prank: On Halloween, US military forces train for zombie apocalypse

The scenario is part of a counterterrorism summit held this week. A zombie invasion would have characteristics similar to other catastrophic events and would be 'a federal incident,' a summit organizer says.
By Anna Mulrine | Christian Science Monitor – Wed, Oct 31, 2012.. .


Why is the US military preparing for a zombie apocalypse?
 
That’s the latest training exercise that US Marines and Navy special-operations forces will be taking part in on an island off the coast of San Diego – starting on Wednesday, aka Halloween.
 
“This is a very real exercise. This is not some type of big costume party,” Brad Barker, president of the Halo Corp. security company, told the Associated Press.

[RECOMMENDED: War games – Pentagon's 3 nightmare scenario]

This scenario is dire, modeled in part on a public-service campaign that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) launched last year, warning that US citizens should be prepared in the event of a zombie invasion.
 
It will play out Wednesday and Thursday at Halo’s annual Counter-Terrorism Summit security conference, which will be attended by, among other people, former Central Intelligence Agency director Michael Hayden.
 
Zombies will invade Paradise Point Resort, which covers 44 acres on an island that will be transformed with Hollywood-style sets, including a Middle Eastern village and a pirate cove. Some 1,000 US military personnel, police, and state and federal government officials will be charged with responding.
 
“No doubt when a zombie apocalypse occurs, it’s going to be a federal incident, so we’re making it happen,” Mr. Barker told the AP.

The training scenario has not come without its share of unwelcome attention, he noted, adding that “every whack job in the world” has called about the exercise.
 
Barker acknowledges that the “zombie apocalypse is very whimsical,” telling the Military Times that the scenario was created to “add some levity to the more-dire scenarios summitgoers will encounter,” including terrorists roaming hospital halls shooting people and pilots trapped behind enemy lines.
 
That said, an affinity for zombie television shows and movies could help provide a teachable moment not only for US troops, but also for the American public.
 
This is particularly true when it comes to the uncertainty that surrounds unexpected catastrophic events, including natural disasters and terrorist attacks.
 
“No one knows what the zombies will do in our scenario, but quite frankly, no one knows what a terrorist will do,” Barker told the AP. “If a law-enforcement officer sees a zombie and says, ‘Freeze, get your hands in the air!’ what’s a zombie going to do? He’s going to moan at you. If someone on PCP or some other psychotic drug is told that, the truth is he’s not going to react to you.”
 
When it launched its awareness campaign last year on a zombie apocalypse, the CDC used it as a chance to encourage Americans to be prepared for any unexpected emergency.
 
“We have a very small office and an equally small budget,” Maggie Silver, a CDC official, told ABC News. “So we had to do something that wasn’t going to take a lot of manpower or dollars.”
 
The CDC recommended doing things such as stocking up on water (one gallon per person per day), food (nonperishable items you eat regularly), tools like duct tape, a battery-powered radio, and blankets.
 
Last month, the Department of Homeland Security released its own tongue-in-cheek webinar about zombie preparation as an “effective way of engaging new audiences,” as one FEMA official noted.
 
The CDC zombie campaign grew out of an effort “to spice up our general preparedness message,” added Ms. Silver. “We decided, why not give people what they want?”
http://news.yahoo.com/no-prank-halloween-us-military-forces-train-zombie-162141684.html (http://news.yahoo.com/no-prank-halloween-us-military-forces-train-zombie-162141684.html)

This actually makes sense to me - a major incident with a poisoned water supply or some exotic decease could be as close to zombie-time as makes no matter.  I should think the training ought to focus on protecting the non-violent and triaging/quarantining the shambling victims.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 07:30:10 PM
So, raiding the wife's camera:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pw-lE0v-2dk/UJKEbg3SIjI/AAAAAAAAOdY/Mw2CA9CU-j8/s800/IMG_4995.JPG)

Yes, we went the easy route on food this year...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FCG6AamjsXw/UJKEd84aZuI/AAAAAAAAOeQ/75Y__zRRqZc/s800/IMG_5006.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xUUOrsxAaKQ/UJKEftMl1OI/AAAAAAAAOgY/nVfqVDCW-lg/s800/IMG_5012.JPG)

More serious TALENT from the pumpkin carvers this year. (no stencils)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9-WZnLLMN0w/UJKEgUksqGI/AAAAAAAAOe8/xa0oOBG7Z_E/s800/IMG_5014.JPG)
(if not spelling...)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Sn3RGnrhZZI/UJKEgjLJmWI/AAAAAAAAOfI/Mo2WA_iBiII/s800/IMG_5016.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EDQFafaJIPc/UJKEg_qLBUI/AAAAAAAAOfM/1mKNzJhXJQE/s800/IMG_5017.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v6qROdU0NhM/UJKEhECaAJI/AAAAAAAAOfY/Y6023xRXUCk/s800/IMG_5018.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qAhRxz7yRk8/UJKEhwsTPuI/AAAAAAAAOg0/i-kNPHSGHQg/s800/IMG_5020.JPG)

They're starting to make my pumpkins seem pathetic.  At least they are unique in the bifurcation. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xJk9WIfywh8/UJKEmqQz3AI/AAAAAAAAOjI/tFeLVVxzKxQ/s800/IMG_5033.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
This must have been while I was cleaning up the carving stations as the garage light is on polluting the shot.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WxMdG-uy04Q/UJKEoBixPtI/AAAAAAAAOhs/-qhCOmQLMrM/s800/IMG_5039.JPG)

Talia's skeleton she had pegged since LAST year.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yUIo54ft_QA/UJKEpomADTI/AAAAAAAAOks/8ECtehGNq9k/s800/IMG_5043.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hFNvN39N3IQ/UJKEqCOp58I/AAAAAAAAOls/xfpwPYYp8N8/s800/IMG_5045.JPG)

Zombie Alec for the yard.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x_4fpENrD7A/UJKEsZXqWcI/AAAAAAAAOmY/QuTtmE5jsGI/s800/IMG_5050.JPG)

Kyle's plague Dr light.  Easier to see/breath mask for him.  That hood is hand sewn...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x_4fpENrD7A/UJKEsZXqWcI/AAAAAAAAOmY/QuTtmE5jsGI/s800/IMG_5050.JPG)

Yeah...that's me.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fwquSjKzwhk/UJKEtQe9_mI/AAAAAAAAOm4/9IPRhJH4EgI/s800/IMG_5054.JPG)

Talia did NOT like Alec's makeup...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0g7qmWGdeJo/UJKEvFL4qzI/AAAAAAAAOoQ/xBQGDKWn5WM/s800/IMG_5060.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YTLFhMWduC0/UJKExMRPBSI/AAAAAAAAOk0/97hv-04fQic/s800/IMG_5064.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZPn2xjmidXk/UJKEzU15tTI/AAAAAAAAOlc/l_OieyMEmME/s800/IMG_5069.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Alec's the actor of the family, and he was REALLY into his role.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AczxwXGTJX0/UJKE0B2VRMI/AAAAAAAAOl0/mBJsfPpsUa8/s800/IMG_5073.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TRFIsVPV56Q/UJKE07NwhqI/AAAAAAAAOmI/nbnLkGGFauM/s800/IMG_5074.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rdmbMt3YpiI/UJKE2E98ZII/AAAAAAAAOmo/WNUffPZdctc/s800/IMG_5077.JPG)

Kyle's extremely effective candy drop. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ElQuz8OUn8E/UJKE3mu_QGI/AAAAAAAAOnM/xpKiIvuAHgo/s800/IMG_5081.JPG)

First customer.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MVQj_bTkyvs/UJKE38-8p-I/AAAAAAAAOnQ/FSkxL_vf6iY/s800/IMG_5082.JPG)

After trick or treating, Talia come back to help me up front again.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GG1Bv8xquGM/UJKE6-hLGKI/AAAAAAAAOog/YSzKkcwGkz8/s800/IMG_5093.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x1GDYZ9ogiw/UJKE7WVekmI/AAAAAAAAOoc/2s-GDWMGxhw/s800/IMG_5095.JPG)

Yes, I'm posting another shot.  I think the fence is my favorite thing this year.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UmD_VmHJ7u0/UJKE8maUflI/AAAAAAAAOo4/KpYeORxRzdQ/s800/IMG_5099.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lgn7FPeNGrc/UJKE8qZF8VI/AAAAAAAAOpA/RKSO-PbbNLg/s800/IMG_5100.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
What I love most is you can hardly tell that's a  swing set in the back there.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LYCTXBXdLkM/UJKE9RmwfOI/AAAAAAAAOps/kbIoLpiLnqg/s800/IMG_5101.JPG)

Kyle had to move the far lighting for his comfort, so this isn't how I planned exactly, but functional. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p6E1ef0L8nw/UJKE9blKYBI/AAAAAAAAOpk/fv9olQoRdCo/s800/IMG_5103.JPG)

Trevor just ROCKS.  hope you're sitting down....I've already sold him. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vK1Pcizhkw4/UJKE99oRYII/AAAAAAAAOpo/y7MCNl8VhsI/s800/IMG_5104.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Eaw0dP6JJVg/UJKE-4PR00I/AAAAAAAAOp4/lFAtBg1CFYw/s800/IMG_5105.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PHhc2Wf8TLA/UJKE-_PlFcI/AAAAAAAAOqI/GsNFNQyrrVM/s800/IMG_5106.JPG)

I need to find a way to hide the tramp better.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pWjxYmAe-cQ/UJKE--FjG6I/AAAAAAAAOp8/bUIg_BpudAk/s800/IMG_5107.JPG)


There's no way I would have ever approached that as a kid.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8CcW5DHwwro/UJKFAB_0oyI/AAAAAAAAOqQ/YEaTX1iM1hg/s800/IMG_5109.JPG)

Of course, we always end with the glow chalk.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3dBThRVf-a4/UJKFAcZAM3I/AAAAAAAAOqU/M6PIESbcSgU/s800/IMG_5112.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 01, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
I LOVE these day of the dead candles I found in ogden.  There are going to be LOADS of them in the future. 


I have to laugh, Davis Graveyard ended up hiding their shroud tomb in the back of their display out of embarrassment. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 07:40:42 PM
:D  Serious talent.  Beautiful little ghoul girl.  It's all lovely.  Full marks.   ;b;  Merry Uno-Christmas, dude.



Funny thing; hEt's a babe, but I think Thalia looks more like you...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 01, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
So how much did you get for Trevor?  Are we talking about what-your-rocket-scientist/expert-boo-artist-time-is-worth money, or just good profit over your materials overhead and a chance to do it better next time? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 02, 2012, 02:08:39 AM
Enough to cover this entire year's material, party, candy, etc.   

Much of the money is going towards equipment to make the gardening easier (nice tiller, better sprinkler system, etc).  Maybe the brick path on the side of the house as well.  Maybe some new skulls.  Maybe some stone pillars. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 02, 2012, 02:46:01 AM
Well, I'm glad to hear it was a pretty penny.  That sounds like maybe a professional haunt or something.  Or the collector next to the school?  Someone online?


You need to show me more of these day of the dead candles...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 02, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
No, just bought by the typical Halloween hoarder.

This guy in fact.  Which means I'll be able to see Trevor on the news every year. 
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55176188-78/mad-gamble-lab-display.html.csp (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55176188-78/mad-gamble-lab-display.html.csp)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 02, 2012, 12:54:25 PM
Candles...
You're probably used to seeing them with a saint or a jeebus on them.  Essentially just tall jar candles.  Popular in hispanic areas for day of the dead and Chritsmas.  I found where to get blanks. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ElQuz8OUn8E/UJKE3mu_QGI/AAAAAAAAOnM/xpKiIvuAHgo/s800/IMG_5081.JPG)

The jar protects the flame from the wind which makes them good for haunting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 02, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
Oh, those.  Makes a lot of sense.  Incidentally, the wax in those is sometimes really soft - handy if you need maliable wax for something.

No, just bought by the typical Halloween hoarder.

This guy in fact.  Which means I'll be able to see Trevor on the news every year. 
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55176188-78/mad-gamble-lab-display.html.csp (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55176188-78/mad-gamble-lab-display.html.csp)
Ohh.  Pride, then.  DO you know if the show he puts on is any good?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 02, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
No idea.  He's well south of me. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 02, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
I assume you got the clean-up pretty much licked by now.  What does Uno typically do two days after the big day?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 02, 2012, 10:01:59 PM
Been organizing the shop.  (the BIG sculpture stuff)  The art room is next. (the small stuff) 

Probably till the pumpkins into the garden at some point. 

Considering hanging up the C word lights. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 02, 2012, 10:03:03 PM
An Uno's work is never done.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 03, 2012, 04:49:31 AM
I always jot things down immediately after Halloween.  Going through my notes.

Best costume of the night was a little knight.  About 2 years old.  Store bought, nothing special, but we were his first house ever trick or treating.  He come fully equipped with a sword, shield and helmet, and was initially scared.  After his dad explained we were the 'bad guys', he joyfully took to fighting the evil.  Didn't care much about the candy, but wanted to play more after he went through. 

Furthest travelers were from Riverton.  Hour to the south. 

"The Potter house" took themselves off "the route" last year, they have moved to the Saturday closest to Halloween for their thing.  "The Mafia House" effectively removed themselves this year by cutting back their treat handouts to a single full sized candy.  The only thing worth going there to begin with was the 'insane amounts of candy'.  This is potentially bad news for next year. 

"The Tiki Man" --> signs were spotted on the sidewalk written in chalk by local kids blocks around our place.  (We're known as "the Tiki Man" thanks to my early years here where torches and skulls with only me were the entire thing) 

Tried walkie talkies for me and Kyle to be able to communicate...wasn't worth the trouble.  Gotta figure something out there. 

Candy table >>>>>Candy bowl. 

Gigantic pixie sticks are extremely popular. 

So is soda. 

Both are cheaper than chocolate. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 03, 2012, 04:51:53 AM
Cheaper, but not so wonderful...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 03, 2012, 04:59:24 AM
According to the kids it is more wonderful. 

I figure to kids Size>substance explains the pixie sticks.  Soda fills a need as kids don't get a lot of beverage options, and they typically crack them open on the spot rather than put them in the bag.  Though we did have water out as well (rather I hadn't cleaned up the water coolers from the carving party), and a lot of kids grabbed some water. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 03, 2012, 05:05:51 AM
I never heard of pop for Halloween, but that does make a lot of sense - all that extortion can be hard work. :)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 03, 2012, 05:10:00 AM
Soda and potato chips are two offerings we provide that are on the abnormal side. 

Both originate from my childhood.  A fellow who worked at pepsi would hand out pepsi, simple enough.  The chips...well, a fellow worked for clover club (local chip factory).  He'd hand out FULL SIZE BAGS, but there was a catch.  They had been deemed unfit for sale by their QA department.  They might be 'burned', or mislabeled, or what not.  So you never really knew what you were getting till you opened it. 

I tell you though, if someone was to sell burned clover club potato chips, I would buy them. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 04, 2012, 12:10:31 AM
Talia's idea of what we should do next year:

"We should make it look like you have lightning.  You can build a big tower out of play doh, and paint blue lightning on it so it looks like lightning because lightning is blue, I sawd it out my window.  And then you need to paint black squiggly lines on it so it looks like it's asploding that would be scary."
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 04, 2012, 12:22:57 AM
You know, that's the kernel of not a bad idea.  She doesn't know about Van DeGraff generators, but I bet you could build one.  Run a wire up someone's sleeve and do some awesome effects in the dark.  Probably a lab show idea, not Halloween.


Oh crap - now I'm going to have to look into YouTubing another of my college films for you.  You'd love the Murray stuff, even though you'll find it lame.  We wanted to figure out how to do lightning effects in the dorm room, but never did.

I gotta talk BA into taking care of this - she has the vids somewhere, and the gear/knowlege to do a transfer.  I still ain't showed you The Return of the Man With the Satanic Hand, either...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 05, 2012, 02:35:22 AM
Time for me to enter the annual photo contest I have no chance in hell of winning.  Here's my entries into the "most spooktacular decorations" category. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--B2kjaUNXao/UJCYPBjMoPI/AAAAAAAAOa8/di40LAc_BYk/s800/IMGP1480.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yYpT7uZlg7c/UJCYQCaRrMI/AAAAAAAAObQ/_BAREHJwCgI/s800/IMGP1485.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UmD_VmHJ7u0/UJKE8maUflI/AAAAAAAAOo4/KpYeORxRzdQ/s800/IMG_5099.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vK1Pcizhkw4/UJKE99oRYII/AAAAAAAAOpo/y7MCNl8VhsI/s800/IMG_5104.JPG)



Why no chance, you ask?

This was last year's best decoration winner:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_BVymRX3Ef4/UJclEQVIWhI/AAAAAAAAOuM/BzvdDUzPYBE/s800/image.jpg)

I seem to be lacking. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 05, 2012, 02:41:49 AM
siigh

Well, I think your photos and decoration is beautiful.  Why enter a joke of a contest for fuzzy bunny Halloween and not submit a lot of pictures of your girl?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 05, 2012, 03:48:35 AM
It's kinda something we laugh at in the community.  Like Pumpkinrot entering the scarecrow contest every year with a horrid creation and losing to humpty dumpty.  We get a kick out of losing to cute crap.  Every once in a great while we get decent judges as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 05, 2012, 04:00:32 AM
I was once in a group of Dr. Whos in okay costumes at a con costume contest who put on a funny skit.  We lost to a six year-old in a store-bought wookie costume.  We didn't think it was a bit funny.

Why don't you enter an actual fuzzy bunny?  Your Halloween friends will plotz.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 05, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
Wouldn't make any difference.  Haven't seen anyone over age 2 win the costume category yet. 

I remember being less than amused when my boys in homemade pirate costumes lost to a storebought baby bumblebee.  Thing about this particular contest is that just about EVERYONE enters.  Stolloween, Davis Graveyard, all the famous displays in the community enter.  And we all lose and laugh about it. 

I normally enterred the Guild Wars contest as well, only to lose to some bimbo in a skimpy costume, but they changed it to a diorama contest this year and I cant be bothered with that.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 05, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
http://youtu.be/WOlpdd7y8MI (http://youtu.be/WOlpdd7y8MI)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 05, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
That's just wrong.

[snickers]
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 06, 2012, 04:36:45 AM
http://youtu.be/lPOM0IUsd_0 (http://youtu.be/lPOM0IUsd_0)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 06, 2012, 04:49:39 AM
I know it's nothing to do with why you posted that, but is Delta Rae, by any chance a Christian group?  That sounds like every song that plays on the Christian station that displaces my classical music on overcast days.  No thank you.  I never want to hear anything Creed-inspired ever again.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 06, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
whoa, did we just lose everything that happened this morning?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 06, 2012, 05:01:20 PM
Yes.  Hosting upgrade.

I'm furious, and hoping it can still be fixed.

I mean, really angry.  I have my last reply on the Star Wars stuff saved, and I'll post it soon as I know if it can't be restored.  Sorry about all this.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 06, 2012, 05:03:18 PM
sisko is attacking it right now - no idea if there's any hope.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 03:45:59 AM
http://youtu.be/hPCBZpBXhFQ (http://youtu.be/hPCBZpBXhFQ)

Yeah, I can't wait to bring that kind of music back. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 03:49:14 AM
Hippie drum circles?  Was that sarcasm?

Kinda takes me back to some not-entirely bad times, mind you...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:00:20 AM
That's my bro. 

We wrote 3 songs for my soundtrack back in the day.  Keeping in mind the camera mic there doesn't capture the full djembe sound. 

This was one of them:
http://youtu.be/qV5oOr8C3cQ (http://youtu.be/qV5oOr8C3cQ)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:02:55 AM
Wrote and recorded in 2005.  I pieced together other tracks from Djembe and Taiko up to 2009, the last time we went with this 'theme'.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 04:07:36 AM
Interesting.  I don't think I've seen that year before.  Lotta animal skulls.

Probably, for a first-rate soundtrack, the volume was a little high - although, for a live show I might would crank it up and really freak people out, so hard to say.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:14:35 AM
Yeah, I had lots of trouble with video cameras early on.  You either couldn't hear anything, or it was too loud.  SO disappointed in 2009 when the camera SUCKED it up. 

We just gave up in 2011. 

We had a half decent one this year, but all cameras seem to really detest torch light for some reason, so they are all filming dark. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 04:23:56 AM
Human eyes are better than the best NASA probe cameras, hands-down - just not specialized, but far more flexible and adjustable.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 02:27:54 PM
Going through lots of old stuff. 

2004 isn't worth looking much into, it was me with 5 torches. 

2005 started the whole skull fetish, even got some corn in there...well, there was a whole concept there that gets lost.  The overall plan at this point was to just add a few skulls every year. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vgZUasov6OA/SBH4jFs-c1I/AAAAAAAAAeg/UdecwiaRF_E/s800/halloween%2520003.jpg)

2006 was the first home build on a budget.  An ENTRANCE.  I wanted it to STAND OUT, as it was our first epilepsy safe year. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7Hxe6L0mOEY/SBHsPFs-cPI/AAAAAAAAAXw/HKxCf4JaFlw/s800/post-11-1162252253.jpg)

2007 was my previous favorite year. 

(presently 2010 > 2007 > 2012) 
Fortunately I kept hard numbers.

2007, 100 skulls, 75 stakes:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rBesG2Fhjew/R-pq8ks-23I/AAAAAAAAAHk/UBPUDsZ4gXs/s800/post-11-1194192540.jpg)

2008, 330 skulls, 200 spikes (PLUS we added a hut and Fred, condensing that into a much tighter space anyway...what was I thinking?)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z9W3ELdt3rc/SQjx3tG-hbI/AAAAAAAABzg/KBG3SZ0FQcs/s800/IMGP1697.JPG)

2009, I recognized the mistake, cut it down to 200 skulls, spread across both front and back yard...and it just became monotonous to continue to go through the same thing for that long.  It's also the year the camera took a dump because...well, jacob's ladders (from an unrelated project) can generate enough EMF to FRY your electronics...didn't know that. 

The good thing from 2009, it was the beginning of my conversion to pumpkins.  I wouldn't mind bringing some of the pumpkin spikes back either.  heh.  I actually thought 24 pumpkins was "a lot" back then. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zdcWcPSurD8/SuusGzbGGrI/AAAAAAAAFKg/O0mcN4M0c9E/s800/IMGP2251.JPG)

2010 was the beginning of "The Harvest".  60 pumpkins, some corn, some reed grass.  That's it. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4dOv0BZnKFQ/TMuWphbyR0I/AAAAAAAAIJk/Wd98P1fT918/s800/_IGP0666.JPG)

2011 we bumped it to 100 pumpkins, but didn't take enough care to SPREAD THEM OUT!  What you end up with is the pumpkin path.  AND they got concentrated in the front yard.  Live and learn.   
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MlKeR5FJucQ/Tq1gSjUKoxI/AAAAAAAAJ0g/RPfc4NXD7GI/s800/Harvest1.jpg)

2012, we did the 119 pumpkins right.  SPREAD them out.  Make some DEPTH.  (only reason this isn't my favorite year is I really don't "feel" the whole graveyard thing in back, but I know a lot of folks do) 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XXnFcS2hNM0/UJCYPFANcWI/AAAAAAAAObA/sZEPk5pGkDs/s800/IMGP1481.jpg)

So, where does that put us for 2013? 

We're going back to the skulls of 2007, but mixed in with the reed grass and pumpkins, we don't need that many.  100 MAX.  Probably only need 50-75.  (will make 100 anyway for spares/other projects)  I actually have 50 already, but would prefer some variety to the models. 

I had been considering going to 150 pumpkins.  This would be a mistake.  100-120 is the number for this size, especially if I'm adding some breathing graves in.  We need to mix those and the skull spikes in and spread the pumpkins even more evenly to the back yard. 

I want to bring back some of the spiked pumpkins.  Let's say 20 out of the 100 at most.  That means me or my uncle need to plant pie pumpkins. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
Thanks for the overview.  I know that was a lot of work. 

Interesting.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 02:48:45 PM
Guess I should explain a breathing grave over here.  I was copying that thing from the Halloween forum. 

http://youtu.be/c37mbkNvNDw (http://youtu.be/c37mbkNvNDw)

(that's a poorly disguised undersized example, but there you go)

I want to do those with some Serpent and the Rainbow styled "graves". 

(crappy screen grab I know)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WaVlrMHzoEk/UJRl9PvEMqI/AAAAAAAAOtw/zc65huCb3XE/s800/Rainbow.jpg)

the veve should accentuate the movement. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 02:51:30 PM
Good idea.  With better concealment, it ought to really be creepy.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:36:48 PM
So, looks like the graves are going to run $50 a pop if I buy new motors for them all. 

Reindeer motors are a little weak for these, but I might be able to use that to my advantage, will have to try one, then I could do 3 for free. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
Dry, dusty, soil and try to keep it dry to take some burden off the motors?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
Well, deer motors REVERSE when they overload.  So, if I can get it set right, we'll get a PAUSE with a crank UP, then a revers, to get a second crank up, pause, reverse. 

As for the dirt, I have an idea on that.

One of my more fond memories was making pictures with glue. 

Spread some glue, dust with some sand, and you have dirt.  now glue some sticks for trees, etc. 

I'm going to try the same kind of thing with this cover cloth.  Debating between spray adhesive and mod podge for the glue. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 04:49:01 PM


In my wildest dream, my entire front yard would be a giant breathing grave with the bridge of death down the middle. 

Never happen, maybe in my next professional job. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 07:40:31 PM
So, the one thing that jumps out at me from the above plan.


It's a lot of PRODUCTION, but virtually no DEVELOPEMENT.  Nothing there is going to push me like Trevor did. 

So, do I target something big and new to do in the yard, finally dip my toes into some honest to goodness animatronics?  Or some special project like the bob tutorial, maybe a Chimera tutorial? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 07:47:30 PM
I think the tutorials ultimately do the world more good by a long shot...

Are we still talking about one grave or the whole yard?  The former seems worth doing and a lot more practical.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 08:18:11 PM
I could never frame in the entire yard and elevate the bridge to make that happen.  I'd LOVE to.  Like I said, maybe my next professional job.  a 10x8 room space is a lot more reasonable to do something like that for

we're talking a handful of graves.  3-5. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
Really, one or two ought to be plenty.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 09:35:57 PM
One seems lonely and might get lost, thus 3. 

Can't do 2, that doesn't fit symbolically.  2 is for peace, unity, balance, it's just all wrong. 

But then that was beaten into me that 3 is 'wrong', so you "NEED" 5 is always yelling in the back of my head.  (Among other joys, mom used to do flower arrangements, and we ALL had to help with the weddings.  3 is WRONG!  5 of primary flower, 7 of accents, dammit, 3 is for the greens!)

3 is for joy, new paths, passage of time, ending.  It could work, if it weren't 'wrong'.  (likely candidate just to exorcise that)

4 is, just no.  Not going there.

5 is instability, radical change, primitive, erratic.  It's just symbolically RIGHT. 

Not that I would expect anyone to actually COMPREHEND any of that. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
hm. 

Could make it just a single larger area though...

Oh, a rethink of the circle.  (much smaller than this circle)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kmgFsbgspvE/Tq_9lRltnrI/AAAAAAAAKR4/LdRK4zfo5GQ/s800/IMG_3224.JPG)

Oh, the blacklighting would Hide the whole contraption aspect quite well, but you'd see the fluorecent lines of the veve/circle move. 

How to frame a cicle though...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
A pseudo-marble grave framing laced with florescents?  You DO see graves framed like that once in a while.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
One seems lonely and might get lost, thus 3. 

Can't do 2, that doesn't fit symbolically.  2 is for peace, unity, balance, it's just all wrong. 

But then that was beaten into me that 3 is 'wrong', so you "NEED" 5 is always yelling in the back of my head.  (Among other joys, mom used to do flower arrangements, and we ALL had to help with the weddings.  3 is WRONG!  5 of primary flower, 7 of accents, dammit, 3 is for the greens!)

3 is for joy, new paths, passage of time, ending.  It could work, if it weren't 'wrong'.  (likely candidate just to exorcise that)

4 is, just no.  Not going there.

5 is instability, radical change, primitive, erratic.  It's just symbolically RIGHT. 

Not that I would expect anyone to actually COMPREHEND any of that. 
Believe me, my dad has been in the ground for 7.5 years, but much of the conditioning he laid on all of us, Mom included, is permanent...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
A pseudo-marble grave framing laced with florescents?  You DO see graves framed like that once in a while.

No, sorry. 

Um.  I'm brainstorming and trying to articulate.

What about instead of a "grave" grave, we put a "breathing grave" (or 3) underneath a magic circle.  We did a BIG (15') magic circle in 2011, I'm thinking more like 8' or so for this. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jyAUdFYPhfo/UJrbg7j_TbI/AAAAAAAAOuk/ulheATk0O-w/s800/b888326fbc1641d29cf0951b60730bed-78e90ab5390542698d4cd15749d9b977-6.jpg)

By lighting it with blacklight, and drawing it in fluorescent, the edges and anything NOT fluorescent will appear BLACK, making it much easier to disguise the thing to begin with.  I could even get my actor boy to do some chanting over the thing. 





....I think I missed a post as well.  Other additions for 2013.  Might have disappeared in the reset the other night. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 10:11:21 PM
Or taking the really EVIL route, put actor boy in the middle as a sacrifice  (in a spider man outfit...LOL) and surround him with the breathing graves magic circle. 


good lord, make the trampoline USEFUL? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
First post over on the Halloween forum  coulda swore I copied most of it here. 

Quote
Much like last year's thread (http://"http://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-props/112312-recondite-unorthodoxs-2012-theme-open-discussion.html") I'm getting my theme ideas out in the open and seeing where it takes me this year.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AeOWXjphNAE/UFfIaPmPtQI/AAAAAAAANXA/zcM0rl8JG0c/s800/primordi%2520copy.jpg)

- pertaining to or existing at or from the very beginning.

I'm going back to my roots.  At least the roots of the current neighborhood. 

Of all the irony, it was a marching band that got me set on this course.  THE MUSIC is just so fun. 

But, I also need to grow, so it's time to re-examine those roots and see what comes up. 

The original concept sprang from many sources, perhaps most dominant being Clash of the Titans (http://"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082186/")

I LOVED that movie as a kid.  The idea was, specifically, to recreate something of Calibos's swamp. 

Torches, skulls on poles, it all started from here.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QZ0E7wXQ__0/SE0WkQ2fmiI/AAAAAAAAAx4/BW_9g7cSyd8/s800/IMGP1416.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PcfeIyMPhn8/SE0WlI44eBI/AAAAAAAAAyE/hEwxVBLTmI0/s800/IMGP1417.JPG)

If I were to add my skulls....

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rBesG2Fhjew/R-pq8ks-23I/AAAAAAAAAHk/UBPUDsZ4gXs/s800/post-11-1194192540.jpg)

To the more recent Harvest theme...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZK9VhfYjcTg/UJCYPGiAR5I/AAAAAAAAOa4/hYv9YQzMslQ/s800/IMGP1482.jpg)

I think we're well on track.  But, I want BETTER skulls.  NEW skulls,  NOT ALL THE SAME MODEL skulls. 

Then, there was those things I never got to this year. 

No, we're not doing a cemetery this year...but you know what?  Those breathing graves from Madmax (http://"http://www.halloweenforum.com/tutorials-step-step/105063-breathing-grave-how.html"), who says they need to be on a tombstone? 

The Serpent and the Rainbow (http://"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096071/") gave me a most wonderful idea for those in the most brief of scenes.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WaVlrMHzoEk/UJRl9PvEMqI/AAAAAAAAOtw/zc65huCb3XE/s800/Rainbow.jpg)

Skulls, candles, and veve for a grave.  The veve especially would highlight the motion of the thing.   

Oh, and I need that shrine I saw in that book the one time.  Or several similar shrines.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XYesHR_J6qo/TPREsHqaBtI/AAAAAAAAITA/QUA7tJlgn9g/s800/IMG_2951.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
I don't think I've seen that post before.


Or taking the really EVIL route, put actor boy in the middle as a sacrifice  (in a spider man outfit...LOL) and surround him with the breathing graves magic circle. 


good lord, make the trampoline USEFUL?
Oh man; I've noticed the trampoline in your pictures.  It's a lot harder to ignore as a jarringly inappropriate element than the chain link fence everywhere.  You definitely need to work in the trampoline SOMEhow just to disguise it, and keep it from shouting "THIS IS ALL FAKE!" every year.

Actor boy would chew that stuff right up, I betcha.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
You also need to get rid of that suburban house smack in the middle of everything... ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
I definitely gotta make you a skull; I'm sure I won't quite meet your exacting anatomical standards, but at least it should have the virtue of being different.  -And I will go to some trouble with the anatomy.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 07, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
Oh, I like STYLIZED skulls for other things. 

probably getting my new models from here.  http://skullshoppe.com/ (http://skullshoppe.com/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 07, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
Well you'll recall that I was thinking Neanderthal.  Probably go to a little trouble for accuracy, or it's no test of my powers...

Big plus that the brow ridges and exaggerated features ought to be inherently more creepy.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 04:32:24 AM
My skullpts always tend to get pretty neaderthal in their appearance. 

Didn't get a good shot of my last skullpt, unfortunately.  Gift for someone.  An inkwell. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 05:13:36 PM
I'm getting way ahead of myself to ask, but I'll have to make you a mold - obviously, the opening has to go about where the spinal hole would be; any suggestions about supporting something that size I need to keep in mind while making the mold, and keeping in mind the support needs that'll exist at the casting end?  Should I just go for a solid plaster mould, or better, something latexy for the actual inner mould with plaster poured around it in two parts for support?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 05:37:26 PM
Hey, I answer molding questions all day over on the Halloween forum.

I guess the question is what material are you planning to cast in?  That determines how much support you need, really.

My skulls I do with a latex mold and the only support being some cheese cloth latexed right into the mold itself on areas I don't need to stretch.  This doesn't work well for resin castings, but great for plaster.  I pour in layers, mixing the plaster to about pancake batter thickness, roll around the mold to coat it, and dump the extra (usually into the next skull mold) Once you get 2-3 coats on that, you could to a solid pour if that's what you're interested in. 

Or you can go right to making the mother mold.  A 2 piece plaster shell as you describe could work.  Last time I just rigged one up with tape and el cheapo clay:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Dqy9SdPaIiE/SDmr-I6rk0I/AAAAAAAAAqU/vma9gSeAmQ4/s800/IMGP1381.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 05:43:54 PM
My first impulse is naturally laminated latex with lots of cheesecloth or at least tissue, worked in for stiffness - if you don't think a lot of extra support will be need to fight bulging, or can easily be improvised on your end, I really don't want to fool with the plaster bracing.  If I wanted to pay for mailing several pounds of plaster, I'd just send you a good casting.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
Yeah, it don't take a whole heck of a lot.  My molds are usually 4 layers of latex, one has the cheese cloth in it.  3-4 layers of plaster on the cast.  Rough "human" sized plaster needed per layer is 1 cup dry plaster.  That should leave just a touch extra, which can be left in to reinforce one area (different area each layer).  The one thing to do if you do find it deform just a tad is put the mold in a bowl to dry that first layer of the cast.  Sometimes a flat survace is too much pressure on one area, spread that out a touch with small bowl for that first layer and they're fine. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
I was just worried that the technique I use works just fine on small things, and I know what I'm doing there, but I've never done a latex cast on something as big as a whole head.  Even on the small things, bulging can be a problem if you do no bracing, though at fist-sized, a few layers of aluminum foil squeezed around it will do.  Wire mesh, like they sell at craft stores for such purposes, pressed into the right shape works too, with faces.  I use that sometimes for baking sculpey that doen't have a flat side to lay on.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Sounds like you use fewer layers of latex for the small things. 

1 thin coat to start, 3 THICK coats following (and cheese cloth), you get a tough little mold. 

The biggest trick to these is removal. 

You do not want the cheese cloth in any undercuts, or the back of the head.

remove by rolling from the back, leaving the face for last.

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3150/imgp1295cf1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
http://www.halloweenforum.com/tutorials-step-step/67547-glove-mold-making-101-a.html
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 06:22:21 PM
I go pretty thick, actually, and more than four layers - but when you pour water into a bag, the bag wants to get very round.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 06:32:27 PM
See, that's a solid pour, though.  Here, your pouring 1 cup of plaster (into a roughly quart sized cavity), and coating the mold evenly. 

Perhaps the trickiest part is how fragile that first layer is, but I've always considered cracks and breaks in it to be a bonus. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 06:35:29 PM
That makes sense.

I'd been considering an alumninum foil core, so I could do a solid casting...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 06:38:31 PM
I wish all the pictures displayed at that link...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 08:13:22 PM
Yeah, that is the reason I abandoned imageshack.  Some of those are irrecoverable. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
...I've only just now finished reading that thread and the crystal skull one.  I hate working in resin...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 08:23:16 PM
No opinion about trying a light core to make a solid pour?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 08:35:18 PM
That's not something I'm experienced that with.  And it was a PAIN in the ass to get to work properly.  You would definitely need a mother mold

I could ask if scourge (owns that skullshoppe linked to above) wants to come comment, he used to do injection molding, and we prototyped out some molds to learn the ins and outs of it back in the day, but even he's moved away from that kind of thing and does his (resin) molds in an automated shell system like I do the plaster, just has a machine to constantly rotate the molds till the resin cures.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
Eh, if it's a bigger pain than what I'm already proposing to put myself up against, maybe I'm not interested.  Otherwise, I'd be all over that crystal skull thing - if you could get the process down to getting a smooth, polished result, it would be pretty mind-blowing.

But resin?  Meh.  The stuff is of the devil.  Expensive, dangerous, spotty results for no discernible reason, and just plain nasty to work with.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:03:02 PM
OH, the crystal skull smooth?

Yeah, we have that down pretty well.  It was not a smooth original, to begin with. 

lessee...think that was 2008. 

This one is from a wood carving original and you can still see the wood grains on it, that's why it's not "smooth". 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tttl1lQA2J0/SHIsKklbaeI/AAAAAAAAA5k/wKjIYhIGKQ0/s800/IMGP1465.JPG)

The trouble is in the fantastic weight and cost of making one of them. 

For the lindberg model there was the additional problem we couldn't do it as one pour because I underestimated the amount of resin it was going to take, and we were running into some serious temperature problems as a result. 

I've seen an RTV resin that's clear, but never tried it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
I used to think plaster was nasty to work with untill I cast some things in resin.  I even had mostly good results, but evil stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:11:02 PM
It don't like latex much, that's for sure.  Definitely want to spring for a silicone mold if you're doing resing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:15:33 PM
Latex takes a lot of getting used to working with too, now that you mention it.  I probably would have gotten used to resin by now if I was richer than Warren Buffet and could afford the stuff.  When it works, the clear castings are wonderful.  But good lord, the stuff is SO stinky and toxic and tacky to mess with...

You gotta remember that I'm a practicing miser, so investing much money in my hobbies isn't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:29:38 PM
This is just a test to see if spoiler tags are working.

[spoilers] Ignore this.[/spoilers]  I never used them here, but wasn't there a button?

Huh.  Did I even key that in right?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:32:25 PM
Latex takes a lot of getting used to working with too, now that you mention it.  I probably would have gotten used to resin by now if I was richer than Warren Buffet and could afford the stuff.  When it works, the clear castings are wonderful.  But good lord, the stuff is SO stinky and toxic and tacky to mess with...

You gotta remember that I'm a practicing miser, so investing much money in my hobbies isn't gonna happen.

My former hobby was collecting insects.  Clear resin was a fabulous way to preserve them...

hEt did not care for the bugs.  AT ALL.  They're in a University display now and I have more time for Halloween. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:34:15 PM
Lessee.  I think we had a different tag here.

[spoil] testing[/spoil]
[hide] testing[/hide]
[!]testing [/!]

Ok, it's either broken or uncommon. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
It was
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
It was
(click to show/hide)
You can't see those?
 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:51:51 PM
I was trying Glow and Shadows, not Marquee.  No luck finding any spoilered posts in a quick search.  One of the AARs in ToE had the screenies spoilered, but I'm not finding it, or the tags aren't showing, even though they don't work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 09:55:27 PM
And no, they look completely normal in IE.  I just had a look with Chrome, and there I see a color effect on both that looks exactly the same and isn't very impressive.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 08, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Shadow works for me.

As did glow, but I'm using quick respond and there's no button here and I can't remember the exact format so this might not work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 08, 2012, 10:06:08 PM
Okay, I fixed them, and the color change does work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 07:50:52 PM
So, Trevor, despite being a piece of art, was also functional in hiding my new massive fog machine, and providing a chiller. 

A fairly inefficient chiller design, yes, but it worked. 

I need something new to hide that still, and if I'm going to build a chiller, why not model the most effecient ones?

http://youtu.be/dUJNbsZsGhY (http://youtu.be/dUJNbsZsGhY)

No, I'm not forking 3K for one either. 


So, how does a vortex work? 

Well, the first ones on the market followed this design and were quickly laughed at for their $500+ price tag, so this was the common home built plan.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1wkqiFoY4rg/UJ1e5uUmZwI/AAAAAAAAOu8/p2Uj0tY8d60/s640/vortext.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 07:56:46 PM
Obviously Froggy's has a new design, though it has a contained fog machine in it as well, which accounts for some of the width. 

Needless, a 5 gallon bucket is not going to suit my new machine. 

So breaking it down, what is the keys to a vortex chiller? 

Immediate contact with ice.

Fog forced DOWN through the ice to the exit as it cools. 

Expansion chamber UNDER the ice. 

And, most importantly, how am I hiding this in plain sight this year?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 09, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
And a bucket's too big? 

Could you do something with paint cans?  You certainly go through enough to use them lavishly, and you could hammer and alter the shape somewhat.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 08:22:33 PM
No, the bucket is too small. 

Trevor burned through 50 lbs of ice a night, and probably should have been refilled somewhere in the middle of the night.  I'm trying to fix that for the new chiller.  This style burns more, but is more effective and actually takes a much smaller space per lb of ice. 

It also mandates cubed ice, to allow the fog to seep through the space between cubes. 

I got hold of the online manual for the avalanche in the video.  They're adding salt to their ice, which makes them able to get away with the smaller space to blast that fog, but they are also cutting down the lifetime of that partcular chiller to an hour before refill.  Makes a great 20 second video, but makes it worthless for me. 

Crunching numbers, I need to fit about 100 lbs of ice to make it the 3 hours I need.  Now I gotta figure out what size that means, then I can crunch numbers for how big the rest needs to be. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 09, 2012, 08:27:35 PM
A wood stove chimney pipe, then - stretch out the needed volume longways, and I bet the effect increases, though it would probably need refilling more often.  Easy enough to disguise that diameter as a column or post or something.  It would need more insulation anyway.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 08:29:33 PM
Never mind, we bought 130 lbs for the party/chiller, and it just fit in a shopping basket.  so, I need just under a shopping basket size for my  ice chamber.  That's 20x27x17 according to specs online. 

That would be 40" tall, which is getting up there, and I'm damn sure putting casters on this bastard. 

Wonder if I could rig a wagon frame, what's the weight limit on a radio flyer? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
A wood stove chimney pipe, then - stretch out the needed volume longways, and I bet the effect increases, though it would probably need refilling more often.  Easy enough to disguise that diameter as a column or post or something.  It would need more insulation anyway.

The problem is moving the fog horizontally like that, actually.  Though, I have had extremely good luck using some corrugated pipe and nothing else, it's highly dependent on weather to make that work properly, which is why my shift to chillers. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 08:46:13 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J4gtkIcJYks/UJ1qi-WkqcI/AAAAAAAAOvU/AQjwD1eQlwk/s800/20x38W.jpg)

that's 20x38.  Minus some walls and insulation for the box on top, we'd be at 16x34, which would give us a box height of 16.8" needed, plus the 11" axel clearance, that's not bad. 

Guess I know what I'm looking for at garage sales/flea market this year.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 09, 2012, 08:48:24 PM
On the harvest theme, then, a peasant's wheelbarrow?

And if horizontal is a problem, I still fancy there'd be good ways to camouflage that vertically - a fallen log, maybe.  A false beam under the bridge if there's room.  I'll think of more, given time, and so would you...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 09, 2012, 09:20:55 PM
Hm, no I'll build a facade for it.  Probably make it into the/a shrine.

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 10, 2012, 12:14:35 AM
You know it's true...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 10, 2012, 12:16:25 AM
In fact...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 10, 2012, 12:43:02 AM
You would be shocked at some of those that pop up for me. 

But right now mine is rolling around garden tools, mostly. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 10, 2012, 12:46:48 AM
A suspicious-looking .pdf converter for me, ATM. 

Those are actually the first spooky-themed ads I've noticed.  The second displaying while I was in here to post the first was a very happy accident.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 10, 2012, 04:51:18 AM
So, do I target something big and new to do in the yard, finally dip my toes into some honest to goodness animatronics?  Or some special project like the bob tutorial, maybe a Chimera tutorial? 

The Halloween forum is trying to talk me into animating the fence. 

That's not where I was going to go with animation, but to make those bifurcated pumpkins into MOVING bifurcated pumpkins would be one of the most wicked things I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 10, 2012, 02:57:07 PM
The weight and variability would make that tough.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 10, 2012, 04:05:37 PM
yeah, I'd probably have to go paper mache. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
http://www.mda.mil/news/12news0011.html (http://www.mda.mil/news/12news0011.html) O:-)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
Wow.  That is the creepiest thing ever.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
http://youtu.be/RYP1AVcQTws (http://youtu.be/RYP1AVcQTws)

Friend of ours.  Thing to keep in mind is this is done in Chromadepth, so there's a reason for the sometimes odd colors.  You're supposed to wear 3d glasses going through this thing. 

Posting as the ~1:00 mark (and going for quite some time after that) is a rather ingenius modification of my laboratory scare (I designed in 1984, but has been published a bit recently).  Animated props are NORMALLY the center piece of a scene.  Everyone knows this, so use it against them, specifically designed for kids like the one at 1:30.  Good use of blacklight as cammo there too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
Hmm.  That would be a perfect place to have someone lurking behind the wall curtain exactly where the kiddies retreat/cower when the figure is lit.  Of course that person would get bruised a lot....
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
Hmm.  That would be a perfect place to have someone lurking behind the wall curtain exactly where the kiddies retreat/cower when the figure is lit.  Of course that person would get bruised a lot....

That was pretty much my design.  I was a bit surprised this side by side modification for space is as effective as it is. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 03:34:43 PM
I was talking about someone for the kids to crash into, probably with grabbing involved. 

How do you deal, design-wise and otherwise with with startled kids getting violent anyway?  Those floppy glowsticks they all carried look like they would sting if swung just right, for example.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
So, standard breating grave design. 

http://youtu.be/WdXuWX4KWkg (http://youtu.be/WdXuWX4KWkg)

Trying to conceptualize how this is going to work with a circle. 

There was once a spider prop mechanism I think I could make work for my purpose instead.  however, the video is gone from youtube. 

This is an extremely poor mechanism, but somewhat similar.  the hinged legs, and the motor moving them.  Trying to find one of the type I'm thinking...

http://youtu.be/7HD8YVHLbt0 (http://youtu.be/7HD8YVHLbt0)

Anyway, instead of legs, have it be lifting little sections of the circle?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 03:57:23 PM
I was talking about someone for the kids to crash into, probably with grabbing involved. 

How do you deal, design-wise and otherwise with with startled kids getting violent anyway?  Those floppy glowsticks they all carried look like they would sting if swung just right, for example.

Well, grabbing is a no-no. 

Kids don't get violent.  Teens and adults do. 

How I deal with it and how the industry deal are different.  What causes the fight response is quite specifically startle scares.  When I have used them in my haunted houses, they are from far enough away, or from the wrong area for that the reaction to have an effect. 

Something jumps in your face, someone might pop it, yes.  I told Alec SPECIFICALLY, he was to CRAWL.  You don't kick instictively. 

The only time people are getting hit is from poor design.  Yes haunt acting is about violating the personal space and making people uncomfortable.  You don't combine that with startles in their face.  You hit them below the waist, or do not startle within personal space. 

This is  "not with the times", however, and not how the 'new' places do it.  "People are too desensitized now".  That's a load of guano.  Lighting, mood, design, etc trump stupid startles every day, but startles are a lot easier to achieve.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 04:05:42 PM
Ah, found one of the spiders. 

http://s68.beta.photobucket.com/user/the_PROCRASTINATOR/media/VillageHaunt/VIDEO/SPIDERWIPER/spiderrev-A010.mp4.html (http://s68.beta.photobucket.com/user/the_PROCRASTINATOR/media/VillageHaunt/VIDEO/SPIDERWIPER/spiderrev-A010.mp4.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
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Anyway, instead of legs, have it be lifting little sections of the circle?
I don't see why not.

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Well, grabbing is a no-no. 

Kids don't get violent.  Teens and adults do. 

How I deal with it and how the industry deal are different.  What causes the fight response is quite specifically startle scares.  When I have used them in my haunted houses, they are from far enough away, or from the wrong area for that the reaction to have an effect. 

Something jumps in your face, someone might pop it, yes.  I told Alec SPECIFICALLY, he was to CRAWL.  You don't kick instictively. 

The only time people are getting hit is from poor design.  Yes haunt acting is about violating the personal space and making people uncomfortable.  You don't combine that with startles in their face.  You hit them below the waist, or do not startle within personal space. 

This is  "not with the times", however, and not how the 'new' places do it.  "People are too desensitized now".  That's a load of guano.  Lighting, mood, design, etc trump stupid startles every day, but startles are a lot easier to achieve.   
None of this comes as a surpize, actually.  It's pretty clear that you don't want to scare the kiddies that badly anyway, you big softy. ;)

But that's why I mentioned design in my question - you're so dungeon design-oriented and accomplished with theory that I imagined you going with out-of-reach startles over padding and such.

If I was going to do risky up-close startles, I imagine  doing a lot of costume design over dog trainer armor and the like, and trying to design props that didn't look like they were built around a boxer-training punching pad.  I don't know how else those other haunts can manage without going through a lot of actor turnover...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 05:58:49 PM
Well, my last professional job aimed at adults, even, the prison themed haunt at Lagoon.  (consequently, the only one my 2 younger children want nothing to do with) 

Stripped of all animatronics, it's a completely actor driven haunt that has plenty of startle scares, but the ground work is in the SETTING first and foremost.  I WANTED to make it a waiver haunt (the most extreme ones around, they actually allow touching/grabbing), and cuff the patrons, but there was issues with that in the Lagoon setting.  A dedicated haunt site will have to work that up one of these days.  Anyhow, patrons are taken into prison.  The haunt progresses from processing, on through the rest of the prison.  Booking, Cells, Psych ward,  laundry, hospital, morgue, death row etc.  The startle scares are SO easy, safe, and fantastic here.  Actors are free to throw chairs at the bars or beat on plexiglass with a bat, etc ALL right in the patron's face, but there is that seperation the actors know is there, patrons do not always get to see it until after that startle.  Now you've hit them with the initial, from the safe angle, you have another actor 'free' coming from the side/behind.  They've wasted the potential fight response on the first scare, and are unprepared for the second.  THAT is how you design for it. 

Now, let me do all that, AND grab them with people CUFFED?  Not to mention actually being able to grab and manipulate them physically?  Yeah, I'm too soft in this extreme age.  ;) 

What you don't do is jump out from behind a drop panel and yell in someone's ear.  If I could just put an end to that everywhere, I would be a happy man. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 06:07:42 PM
What was the facility/building Lagoon had to work with?  I'd thought of things like plexiglas and other barriers, but figured those kind of set-ups were budget-breakers no one would bother with.

This is all genuinely interesting to me; I could care less about creepy halloween stuff, but a show's a show.  (And art's art, for that matter.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 06:12:39 PM
2 things I'm most proud of that particular haunt design though are real subtle. 

1. You can not see the exit at any time from the entrance side.  They don't walk back around front AT ALL.  The exit loops you WELL away.  Nothing kills a haunt faster than seeing the people running out the exit.  It was actually harder to accomplish than you would expect.  People go in, they do not come out. 

2. Line entertainment.  Most haunts will have a couple costumed people stalking the line scaring folks.  Not this one.  There's prison guards out front, and they are specifically told to maintain their role as no nonsense prison guards.  No jumping in scaring people.  The entertainment comes with staged prison breaks every 15-30 minutes (depending on line length).  Sirens WAIL, escapee SPRINTS from the side of the prison.  Guards apprehend the suspect who is taken away screaming.  On the rare occasion (cost) guards can even kill an escaping prisoner.  Those fake guns mentioned above send a signal to an blood vest that pops on the prisoner.  It's very rare a haunt gets to set the stage while people wait in line. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
What was the facility/building Lagoon had to work with?  I'd thought of things like plexiglas and other barriers, but figured those kind of set-ups were budget-breakers no one would bother with.

This is all genuinely interesting to me; I could care less about creepy halloween stuff, but a show's a show.  (And art's art, for that matter.)

In the summer it's just a bowery/ picnic area.  You strip the tables, and bring in all the walls and stuff for Halloween.  It's all panel sections that get stored in the offseason.  It is not uncommon to see a ROOM with a barrier inside a haunt.  Only wierdos design an entire theme around it.  Part of my selling point was they would then have all these barrier panels for use in other haunts when the prison becomes played out. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
Worked a renaissance fair in Florida set up vaguely like that for the outer perimeters in a campground/outdoor recreational park. 

The really brilliant part?  The owner had had a contest in local schools for best-decorated panel.  This was in a heavily populated urban area.  I heard the prize was worth about $100, and he got thousands of dollars worth of free plywood panels -already painted/decorated- out of the deal.  I wonder if a haunt could pull that off.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 07:07:56 PM
Would have to be somewhere a lot more urban than here.  I'm having a hell of a time trying to get a few local artist to paint me some sideshow posters, and I'm willing to pay. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
...It would be a lot tougher sell at the schools for a haunt than a renfair, too, even if you were in the middle of Salt Lake City...



Pester BA for some poster designs - I'm serious; sideshow posters sounds right up her alley.  Dunno how you'd get anything large enough printed unless you abused you access to engineer printers at work, but I can easily imagine this otherwise.  Send 'er a PM.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
Exactly.  I don't NEED them, yet, just figured it a way to support some local artists.  Guess not. 

Presently trying to cobble together enough to buy my own sound system so that I'm completely independent of my brother.  It's actually been a good thing that I'm anonymous to most his employees.  Pretty sad they treat me better than my family. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 08:53:08 PM
That IS sad.  I sensed a lot of pride in him in that drumming video you posted.

I assume your family doesn't keep volunteering your services to their online friends, so at least there's that. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
That would be my YOUNGER brother.  My OLDER brother owns the store...and fired the younger one.

Well, that's not exactly right.  The [complaint or disagreeable woman] my older brother married took over the business side of things when the previous partners retired, and made it so uncomfortable a host of people decided to leave rather than accept some written criticisms in an employee file, including my younger brother.   

She was a manager in a bank.  You can't treat musicians as you do tellers, and you don't want them treating customers like that either. 


Anyhow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 12, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
Actually kinda going nuts right now. 

I had planned a big Christmas build.  (yeah you read that right)


But, it got canned before it got started.  Was going to be for a charity event, but it seems you have to submit your concepts in July for such a thing.  Crazy Christmas folks. 

Guess there's not going to be a life sized Ghost of Christmas Future pointing at a Scrooge tombstone in the middle of all those happy cheery trees after all.  :(   (they all get auctioned off for charity)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 12, 2012, 10:17:43 PM
 :(



I just assumed the musician and the music store owner were the same brother...

I'm so glad there's someone in the family you get along with.  And glad you love your kids enough to put up with the rest so far.  You're a good man, Uno.  I mean that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 01:10:24 AM
Older brother's a musician as well.  We all are. 

I'm just the one that didn't make a career out of it because SOMEONE didn't want pianos/keyboards in the store.  While I can play others (decent at drums), my strength is the piano. 

In fact, back in the day we were a band.  Did a charity concert (with tons of other people as well), have a thank you video from Sr Bush somewhere around here.  I handled the light show while we were off stage, older brother handled the sound mixing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 01:13:02 AM
I wish I'd been encouraged more with one or another instrument.  I really like music and singing, and wish I was good on an instrument.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 01:13:41 AM
"encouraged".......


yeah.......
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 01:32:00 AM
HEY - I didn't say nothin' 'bout getting DADDY involved.  That'd been a sure way to make sure I hate whatever instrument now, possibly all music. 

He got a little carried away sometimes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 04:02:46 PM
Ah, found one of the spiders. 

http://s68.beta.photobucket.com/user/the_PROCRASTINATOR/media/VillageHaunt/VIDEO/SPIDERWIPER/spiderrev-A010.mp4.html (http://s68.beta.photobucket.com/user/the_PROCRASTINATOR/media/VillageHaunt/VIDEO/SPIDERWIPER/spiderrev-A010.mp4.html)


Going to see if my old record player I bought for prop building can slow down enough to make it usefull for this.  Otherwise, I'm looking at a good $60 in motor and control board.  Any idea if throwing a dimmer switch on a record player controls speed?  Could I be that lucky?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
On an old or simple enough player, I don't see why not, but it would also diminish strength of the motor by the nature of the thing...

YouTube video embedding is fixed, BTW, but you gotta post just the plain page url, I think, and it doesn't work in quotes...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 04:54:03 PM
Testing.

fence closeup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMAZ0bmup4#)

http://youtu.be/xdMAZ0bmup4 (http://youtu.be/xdMAZ0bmup4)


Heh.  that was actually innovative in 2007.  Now you can't go to a wall mart without seeing that same design.   ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
Always being out in front of the creepy trends and being copied so much has to be good for your ego...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/11/13/315050_ntnews.html (http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/11/13/315050_ntnews.html)

Quote
A CHURCH pushing violent anti-homosexual and anti-abortion messages in a play disguised as Halloween fun could involve vilification, the NT's Anti-Discrimination Commission said.

But the Territory doesn't have vilification laws - unlike other Australian jurisdictions.

Acting Anti-Discrimination Commissioner Traci Keys said the Potters House church play could give rise to potential vilification issues.

"(But) there are no vilification laws in the NT," Ms Keys said.

Ms Keys said federal race vilification laws did apply in the NT, but that was it.

Ms Keys was asked if Territorians could get away with hate speech that might be illegal in other states.

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"I guess the answer is yes," she said.

"It would be interesting to get some public discussion around the issue."

But Ms Keys said that didn't mean aspects of the play might not be caught by other NT laws, such as anti-discrimination.

"Vilification can often come hand in hand with discrimination,"she said.

The NT News reported yesterday complaints against a "haunted house tour" that turned out to be a church performance.

It involved violent retribution - beatings, slashed throats, eyes torn out - visited on homosexuals, women who'd had abortions and the doctors who performed them.

Vilification is usually classed as an act that incites others to hate or have serious contempt for a person or a groups because of their race, religion, gender or sexuality.

Discrimination is where distinction is made between individuals or groups to the advantage of some and the disadvantage of others.

Ms Keys said the Commission would be happy to hear from play attendees and look at whether it fell under NT law.

But she said they wanted to hear from people even if their complaints could not be taken on.

"Part of our role is to look at what laws should be in place to protect people," Ms Keys said.

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Ok, crazy Australians. 


It was a hell house. 

This is an offshoot of the Halloween huanted house that specifically involves Sinners, and their awaiting punishment in hell, based mostly on Dante's work.  The "violent retribution" would be what's going to happen to them in hell, not advocating this violent retribution.  If they designed it poorly, that could get lost though. 

I have actually designed one of these on commission before. 

Simpsons did a good spoof on one as well...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 05:57:29 PM
Wow.  There is just no low that doggon Kilkakon won't stoop to.

People make me sad sometimes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 13, 2012, 06:25:08 PM
Speaking of Church invoked haunted houses, got my annual rejection letter from the baptist church doing the Christmas haunted house, aka Journey to Bethlehem.  (first google link, not the local one) http://www.journeytobethlehem.org/ (http://www.journeytobethlehem.org/)

As always, this heathen has some suggestions how to improve the local one (still AWFUL lighting!  come on!), and my offer is always rejected, but they usually impliment the advise I give to some degree anyway.   

Might get up the urge to compete again this year.  It was a hilarious time last year, and we raised some good stuff for charity, but management has changed since last year...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 13, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
That's cute with the shekels, I think.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 14, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Ya know, I love my webhost 11 months out of the year, but their billing sure doesn't fit my lifestyle.  I really don't WANT autopay, thank you.  Let me just get on the billing center and paypal it when I want, I don't care if it's not due till Jan, I want to just pay it now rather than wait for the autobill cycle. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 14, 2012, 10:16:40 PM
That doesn't seem like good accounting, if they're not able to cope with customers wanting to pay early according to their cash flow situtation - or for any reason.  Early capital is early, and there's no downside to getting paid early.

Surely they're not like an individual who'd just blow the money...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:05:46 AM
Original pumpkins are so rare these days. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackthorncreations/8154910851/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackthorncreations/8154910851/#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:07:42 AM
That doesn't seem like good accounting, if they're not able to cope with customers wanting to pay early according to their cash flow situtation - or for any reason.  Early capital is early, and there's no downside to getting paid early.

Surely they're not like an individual who'd just blow the money...

See I'm signed up for auto renew just in case I forget, my paypal will deduct from a CC if by some miracle there's nothing in my account.  But, auto renew removes the manual button from their billing center.  It's just a silly design. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 02:11:37 AM
That IS bad design.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:18:30 AM
"Competition" for best fog chiller. 

MVI 3102 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d0dncKvrBU#ws)

Coffin Fog Chiller - Halloween Scream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAE73scm8jw#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
"Competition"?  You tell me; it's fog. I don't understand.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:32:23 AM
MVI 3102 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d0dncKvrBU#ws)

Notice how theirs is rising up off the ground almost immediately.  A chiller doing it's job, meanwhile is more like Trevor. 

Tomb Chiller test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxpXfgDc7GA#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 02:38:29 AM
Okay.  I kinda thought the bare wood coffin, dog, and guy in only shorts wasn't a sign of quality.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:42:28 AM
It's probably an even more damning sign that theirs was shot in a reasonable temperature where my video was ambient 36 degrees outside.  "hot air rises" is a lot easier to overcome at 60 degrees outside...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 02:48:08 AM
How can you even do that with dry ice fog?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:48:23 AM
Friend's display. 

Spider Rider 2012 w/music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4RTM_Gq3u0#ws)


One of these years I might just have to take a year "off" and do "just" a display instead of a full blown walkthrough. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:49:23 AM
How can you even do that with dry ice fog?

This aint dry ice.  This is fog machine which is basically water and glycerin spat out at 150 degrees.  The chiller then is supposed to cool it below the ambient temp to keep it low.  There's a bit more to it about expansion and this and that, but that's the basics. 

The interesting thing here is I almost went reverse flow design with Trevor.  Glad I didn't. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 02:55:37 AM
One of these years I might just have to take a year "off" and do "just" a display instead of a full blown walkthrough.
Boy, a lot of local people would be disappointed if you did.

Interesting  building in the background of the vid - does your friend live in a castle, or does he have an in with a very laid-back church?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:00:40 AM
Fairly typical 90's Sacramento housing on a nice corner lot. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:02:51 AM
[shrugs]  Looks like stone walls, like a church, but then I couldn't see real well.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:24:05 AM
He fabricates a bunch of pillars that look like that for Halloween, maybe you're seeing those. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:26:35 AM
One of the more talented sculptors on the Halloween forum. 

http://s133.beta.photobucket.com/user/Lauriebeast/library/Halloween%202012 (http://s133.beta.photobucket.com/user/Lauriebeast/library/Halloween%202012)

Awful lighting...or maybe just too much use of flash photography.  Can't tell. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:31:17 AM
Looks like the lighting, judging from the angle.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:35:50 AM
Whoa.  Some of the indoor stuff where I can tell what I'm looking at is pretty impressive.  Talented indeed.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:36:38 AM
Stolloween's display.  (almost entirely paper mache)

http://www.stolloween.com/?page_id=6503 (http://www.stolloween.com/?page_id=6503)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:38:04 AM
Pumpkinrot's.  I'd like to see a more overview instead of all the stylized shots...

http://pumpkinrot.com/pages/Page45.html (http://pumpkinrot.com/pages/Page45.html)

This guy really creeps me.

http://pumpkinrot.com/images/2012_87.jpg (http://pumpkinrot.com/images/2012_87.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
(Still on Lauriebeast) His full-size figures have crappy hands, mind you, considering how accomplished his faces are, and I'm not impressed by his tableu design, but gosh, those facial sculpts are really something else...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:45:19 AM
Davis Graveyard.  Kind of a one trick pony display, but they've perfected the trick. 

http://davisgraveyard.com/gallery/davis-graveyard-2012/ (http://davisgraveyard.com/gallery/davis-graveyard-2012/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 03:45:53 AM
(Still on Lauriebeast) His full-size figures have crappy hands, mind you, considering how accomplished his faces are, and I'm not impressed by his tableu design, but gosh, those facial sculpts are really something else...

Her, but yes.  The hands may be aftermarket, I've never seen her sculpt a hand in any of her tutorials. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:52:08 AM
Hands aren't all that hard to do...

Pumpkinrot's.  I'd like to see a more overview instead of all the stylized shots...

http://pumpkinrot.com/pages/Page45.html (http://pumpkinrot.com/pages/Page45.html)

This guy really creeps me.

http://pumpkinrot.com/images/2012_87.jpg (http://pumpkinrot.com/images/2012_87.jpg)
Stolloween's display.  (almost entirely paper mache)

http://www.stolloween.com/?page_id=6503 (http://www.stolloween.com/?page_id=6503)
You know how sometimes you see someone doing good work and think "I can do that.  I think I can do better."?

I'm not thinking that right now.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 04:01:52 AM
Marrow.

Sickeningly talented paper mache teenager haunting in NZ.

http://marrowhouse.blogspot.com/2012/11/marrow-house-2012-geisterbahn.html (http://marrowhouse.blogspot.com/2012/11/marrow-house-2012-geisterbahn.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 04:03:52 AM
I'm losing my will to live.  Sickeningly talented is right.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 04:07:12 AM
You should post someone doing cuddly bunny work badly and getting undeserved success.  Envy doesn't become me; anger, I'm used to.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 02:54:44 PM
Fluffy bunny work?

I need to summon Hilda for that. 
http://www.halloweenforum.com/general-halloween/123964-lighthearteds-halloween-display-2012-a.html (http://www.halloweenforum.com/general-halloween/123964-lighthearteds-halloween-display-2012-a.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
Well, that's some revolting and banal work.  Should I read the whole thread, or can you tell me about her undeserved success?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
...It would help if she did the blow mold stuff badly.  The art of it is contemptable, but I have to give her points for craftsmanship...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 15, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
Hey, it's certainly not my style by any stretch, but I can appreciate it for what it is.  I just can't even begin to imagine storing all that!  Let alone the collecting of all those in the first place. 

I think one of these years I'm going to keep everything hidden and put up a few blow up decorations OCT 1.  See how much the neighbors freak out.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 15, 2012, 05:55:03 PM
:D  A Cuddly Uno Halloween? :D

Do it.  Do it!  DO IT! :whip:

You must, man.  Don't make me beg.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 16, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
Uno, I'd really like your imput here: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2653.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2653.0)

Your reservations about our moderation policy/style makes your input even more valuable to us.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 17, 2012, 01:26:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJiFUv0o_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJiFUv0o_I)


?  no embed?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 17, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
The American Scream TRAILER 1 (2012) - Halloween Documentary Movie HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJiFUv0o_I#ws)

there we go.  It's on netflix now. 


Documentary on several of the 'hoarder' style "home haunters".  I think I'm going to reserve this one for when people call me crazy. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 17, 2012, 02:33:15 AM
Why?  You are crazy. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 19, 2012, 02:41:34 PM
http://johnkenn.blogspot.com.au/ (http://johnkenn.blogspot.com.au/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 19, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
Neat stuff - looks like a lot of the cartooning from 100 years ago.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 21, 2012, 04:00:49 AM
http://www.goodman-gallery.com/exhibitions/200 (http://www.goodman-gallery.com/exhibitions/200)


"Scion" looks an awful lot like my Bob tutorial measurements...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 21, 2012, 04:05:44 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18739079@N07/sets/72157632041516856/with/8195752089/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18739079@N07/sets/72157632041516856/with/8195752089/)

I'm definitely going to have to steal this...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MLBwohzkmq8/UKxTQ2YVIkI/AAAAAAAAOwc/vuBJL3W_epQ/s800/8196826886_24af32f1b5_b.jpg)

Blurry pic, that appears to be CORN, but the tall stuff.  My raven grass could pull off the same 'tunnel'. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 21, 2012, 04:09:26 AM
Ok, optical illusion.  It's not nearly as deep as that photo makes it look.  Here's a video. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18739079@N07/8196843188/#secret598b94ee79in/set-72157632041516856/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18739079@N07/8196843188/#secret598b94ee79in/set-72157632041516856/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 21, 2012, 04:22:01 AM
There's an idea there in the giant skull - I could imagine you making something impressive with burlap and monster mud of a half-buried giant skelton...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 21, 2012, 04:27:28 AM
Been there, done that.  Sorry, those were before digital photos.  Pro job I did for a dinosaur museum, enter through a Trex mouth, naturally. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 21, 2012, 02:11:25 PM
Alright.  Here's Moshrider.  He took to improving on my Harvest design for his display (not walk through), since he's a professional lighting designer for stage shows. 

Deadman Street 2012 Halloween Light Show by Night Glow Productions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GRkrwPEDfM#ws)

Quote
There are 24 RGB color mixing LED fixtures of various brands and quality.
6 Elation moving head lights
7 old school small moving head lights
2 black lights
2 traditional spot lights
a string each of orange and purple LEDs across the front of the house.
The lighting is controlled by Hog 3PC. To time the lighting to the sound track the Hog system receives commands directly from the audio file via MIDI. The Midi commands are embedded as a separate track that only the lighting control system receives. Each time there is to be a lighting change there is a Midi command that triggers that change. This happens 98 times during the show. The show also contains 30 cues that the lighting console controls the timing of, giving the show a total of 128 cues.


It's really too bad he was doing this in obvious windy conditions.  Light shows don't work well without fog. 

And why on earth would you make something cool and then put purple christmas lights up? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 22, 2012, 12:13:59 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IVd6FZ2w6FE/UK4XKrjkLMI/AAAAAAAAOxM/MhwzMSA9nx8/s800/395141_10152295559180074_1343964611_n.jpg)

It's back on. 

New owner wouldn't agree to the whole free concept though.  Are getting all profits go to charity though. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 22, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
Bumbles bounce!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 24, 2012, 02:45:25 AM
Teaching my daughter how to make snowflakes...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 24, 2012, 03:12:51 AM
Was there suposed to be a picture?  There really should be...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 24, 2012, 11:51:43 AM
Her first.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IXp9we-uzHE/ULC1NixmAYI/AAAAAAAAOxo/BiesLGAUKfk/s800/259935_447229558672922_406143286_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 26, 2012, 03:30:53 AM
Temple of doom is on TV. 

So much great stuff in that Thugee temple.  I'm going to have to sit down and study it again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 26, 2012, 03:35:34 AM
For instance, the great charicatured skull under the statue of Kali.  Hell, the whole Kali statue is pretty awesome. 

As the whole room where indy gets possessed after drinking the blood. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 26, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
Bertha might be getting an upgrade through a downgrade this Christmas. 

Bertha is my DSLR that is very specifically tailored to taking low light photos.  It's lacking most features of even entry level DSLR's, and was pretty much panned by reviews in every area when it came out, save one.  By some strange quirk, it's the best DSLR on the market for low light photography as it just naturally doesn't acquire all the noise most photo sensors do.  Still.  Coming up on 10 years past it's release.  Hence why I bought one at less than half price after the "newer, better" models were released several years back. 

Problem I'm having is it's a pentax (which was a selling point at the time as grandpa was a pentax owner and I've been using his old lenses since first taking up photography class), and they've gone online-only with their sales, and pentax lenses are PRICEY!  With the move to online only, sales are down, and no third party vendors are making lenses now.  This has led to everyone upgrading to a different brand and a slew of lenses hitting the market.

Pentax is probably going away soon.  Many used lenses are hitting the market, but the fancy DA lenses (built for digital cameras) are still fetching quite a sum.  However, the old "m" (30+ year old manual only lenses) series lenses are going for a song, because 90% of the users don't realise how to get them to function on DSLR's. 

I've got a line on a number of prime lenses all under $50.  These were $800+ lenses at time of sale.  New ones are $700 or more and plastic, not this quality metal construction.  Never had a prime lense, always wanted some.  Yeah, it's 40 year old tech and I'll have to shoot full manual.  Who cares?  True low light OPTICS to go with my low light body?  Oh, man, I'm drooling. 

Hopefully Pentax releases another new body that has this low lighting quality before they go under. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 26, 2012, 08:05:22 PM
If it's useful to your photography, I'm for it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 27, 2012, 04:09:52 AM
Well, found someone locally who didn't know what they had, and grabbed 3 primes for $50.  Not each, the lot of them. 

Old school film camera as well, but whatever. 

The steal of the lot was the 50MM prime F1.7. 

Ostensibly meant for portrait work, it features supreme bokeh. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0sbXAQUbBjo/ULQ7HN6bP6I/AAAAAAAAOzg/0rerjSoBan4/s800/IMGP1511.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RDWvTJg4N9Q/ULQ7ISOawKI/AAAAAAAAOzg/Z4k9xdHYyb0/s800/IMGP1516.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dfnZbrqNNAQ/ULQ7KGhbfQI/AAAAAAAAOzg/veyLwHua3AI/s800/IMGP1536.jpg)

Which is also a limitation when wide open. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pRucp1Qelyw/ULQ7J8p2QII/AAAAAAAAOzg/AIxEg9zOK-4/s800/IMGP1534.jpg)

What it DOES for me, however, is allow a whole other level of low light photography. 


(this is hand held outside, no tripod, no fill light, nothing.)  I've notoriously had trouble shooting RED lighting from my props (and some will tell you not to even try).  No more. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nmeKGhZ1YPE/ULQ7HBy7qKI/AAAAAAAAOzg/WR-VWKij5a4/s800/IMGP1506.jpg)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 27, 2012, 04:19:29 AM
The next lens of note is a 28mm F2.4 . 

It's wider focus just allows for a different depth to shots. 

I foresee this being useful for highlight shots where I get up close and personal like.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XwmRcYKHsCk/ULQ7LkSEYHI/AAAAAAAAOzg/2CgnowXp1hA/s800/IMGP1561.jpg)


The final lense is a 200mm F3.5 Tamron prime.  Third party, but still prime. 

I was actually quite surprised at how well this performed compared to my 80-300 kit lens. 

Moon, it's a little hazy out so not the best shooting conditions.

  (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R_2iKEfnDSo/ULQ7H3GjUKI/AAAAAAAAOzg/mPQ49zRDmhM/s800/IMGP1514.jpg)

For giggles I wanted to make sure it would work with my doubler.  (so 400 mm)  No tripod, on the full res version you can pick out craters...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G9EusYiHOiY/ULQ7JNf6g5I/AAAAAAAAOzg/Fmn26ZV4hBg/s800/IMGP1518.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 28, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
Hey, BU, here's an artist you/BA might like.  At least, technically if not style.

http://killerpumpkins.com/ (http://killerpumpkins.com/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 28, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
Fantastic low tech alternative to a hellevator. 

Girl scares people by standing in elevator (Prank) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySQahcfHEBs#)


(hellevator:)

hellevator movements (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfkK9WXkGIg#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 28, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
That strikes me as an effective way to get a little girl beaten savagely...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dolgorukov on November 29, 2012, 04:53:07 AM
What an awesome prank though!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 29, 2012, 08:38:50 PM
It is.  I'd definitely pee myself - but then I might hurt the girl bad before I realised, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2012, 05:26:07 PM
Couple hours and I'm back in limbo...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 30, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Out of work?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
Not in the way those words normally imply.  Just in limbo. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 30, 2012, 06:15:21 PM
Surely you can tell a little more than that...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2012, 08:12:39 PM
Not really much to tell. 

I'll still have a job, I just wont have work so I'll be in the limbo of random crap jobs until congress gets off their ass. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2012, 08:15:05 PM
Unless something comes up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on November 30, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
...Your next post will be #666...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on November 30, 2012, 10:05:55 PM
Well we best get that out of the way then.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Qy4PDHHlS5k/ULjEUUx3r5I/AAAAAAAAO0Y/1h8CSD08FKI/s800/O%2520holy%2520night.PNG)

Plugged O Holy Night into this nifty website.

http://www.wordle.net/ (http://www.wordle.net/)

A slightly modified Raven (adding some "raven"s and "nevermore"s to the poem to manipulate the program to print them bigger) yields:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lG8MgR4HNlU/ULjGSSMMcYI/AAAAAAAAO0o/Ib9Xt2IGFsE/s800/Raven.PNG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 01, 2012, 05:16:02 AM
You were perhaps expecting something more like this for the momentous occasion?

The Devil's Carnival - Painted Doll (666) Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Og3MCPrzoQ#ws)



Anyhow, I'm openly admitting to planning a birthday party for a stuffed animal...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 01, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
You were perhaps expecting something more like this for the momentous occasion?
I just haven't been feeling real talkative lately...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 04, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
Oh it's so fun having a teenager...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 04, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
http://jasonsoles.carbonmade.com/projects/2591646#1 (http://jasonsoles.carbonmade.com/projects/2591646#1)

I especially adore "lament".
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 04, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
Interesting stuff.

Oh it's so fun having a teenager...
Your boy up to something?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 04, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
yeah.  Mid Terms yesterady.  He can hide the fact he's been not doing his homework only so long.  "oh, I did it at school"  Which, granted the stupid school gives them a (mandatory for some idiotic reason) study hall period so it was conceivable, and true for the first term. 

Course in the age of computers, we can just log in and see exactly what he's missing, so his mounting lies of what happened came crashing down.  Sure, some kid hacked the school's web page in an attempt to take it down and I'm sure many parents wouldn't be able to, but I wasn't born yesterday and know how to get in the back door. 


And it's a assignment of getting a couple current events and writing a synopsis every week he's been skipping.  I mean, seriously, that's like a 5 minute assignment not even worth going to the trouble of lying/avoiding. 

At least when I skipped out of things it was 4 entire days of class every week, and I had a car and a job, so that last period really wasn't appealing anyway.  (besides the tests were 80% of your grade and only on fridays so I got a straight B in the class anyway, really wish someone would have explained beforehand that physics = the calculus class I took the year before so I could have taken the more advanced calculus instead.  Chemistry first period was equally boring and made a fair few breakfast breaks, but at least we got to do some interesting experiments in there.) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 06, 2012, 01:51:37 PM
Gorgeous fog this morning.  Rather rare here, I should move somewhere it's more common. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2012, 02:19:01 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 06, 2012, 06:21:23 PM
Any suggestions? 

Only place I really know about is in California.  Fog every morning just about there. 

I would imagine around the great lakes might be suitable weather for it. 

There's a stretch in Southern Utah that had some most excellent ground fog while I was driving through, but I don't know how common that was.  Certainly worth looking into.  NOTHING around there.  Perfect for me to retire and build a sculpture garden. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 06, 2012, 06:51:24 PM
Oh, anywhere with decent humidity and not terribly high daytime temperatures all the time should do it for fog.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 07, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
I've debated this short film with many horror buffs over the years: 


It's generally considered a good movie. 

http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi2675834905/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi2675834905/)

However, there's 30 seconds at the 12 minute mark I think the movie would be better without.  Would like an opinion from someone not jaded.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 07, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Interesting coincidence - Monday, I had three crowns removed and two molars extracted.  Taking a tranquilizer as I left for the Dentist's helped a lot, but my mouth still hurts today.  I think I can speak to this one with a little authority.


To really get the horror of being in the chair?  Less talk, more -extremely bright light in your eyes and the sound of the drill cranked up loud and sustained for 45 seconds at a time, minmum.  The "dentist" in this was way, way, way too fast, which really missed an opportunity - bypassing the true horror for something fake.  Make it that the valium shot was actually a paralyzing agent and the anesthetic a placebo.  It just goes on and on and on, the blinding light and the sound of the drill, on and on, almost choking on the blood and spit pooling at the back of the throat, unable to swallow, unable to move, unable to escape or even get a few seconds relief...

And no, the 30 seconds you speak of were just gross, not scary.

Instead, as the dentist turns to leave, you see as he removes his apron that it's COVERED with blood. He notes that the lady at the door will probably be able to keep you from choking or bleeding to death if you don't have too many complications from the drugs.  Says his last line as you fade to black, passing out helpless...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 07, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
Quote
Instead, as the dentist turns to leave, you see as he removes his apron that it's COVERED with blood. He notes that the lady at the door will probably be able to keep you from choking or bleeding to death if you don't have too many complications from the drugs.  Says his last line as you fade to black, passing out helpless...


EXACTLY my point. 



Anywho.  Check this out.  A whole neighborhood of Halloween nuts. 

http://www.terrorontillson.com/ (http://www.terrorontillson.com/)

I need to move to Michigan. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 08, 2012, 03:27:33 AM
I dunno, man - their stuff looks mighty wholesome.  I think you might just be frustrated on that street...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 08, 2012, 03:39:41 AM
Oh, they just don't KNOW any better. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 08, 2012, 03:45:24 AM
And you're the guy to heal them with the Spirit of Halloween Scaring, are you? ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 08, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
http://www.skullshoppe.com/museum-skulls.php (http://www.skullshoppe.com/museum-skulls.php)

Which do you think looks best?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 08, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
They're all pretty good - for your usual purposes, the second one at the bottom with no jaw is probably best.  If I wasn't considering cost, the first one on the second row.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 09, 2012, 02:14:30 AM
Well, the jaws all remove, so that's not really a consideration. 

I do love the brow of that bottom second one, but lack of teeth is something I can easily do with a cast, so it seems a little bit of a waste.  That's a hell of an undercut at the back of the skull as well, for molding purposes.  Might have to go 2 piece. 

I can see your attraction to the caucasion female skull (first on second row).  My only niggle on that one is rather small orbitals and "sad" expression. 

The male trio is tempting, but how many examples of Asian males does a guy really need?  (I know way too much about this crap for my own good) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 10, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
Why in the world am I getting ads for rare earth magnets here?  I mean I can normally tell exactly where the ads are coming from, but magnets? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 10, 2012, 04:36:33 PM
Because of your personality?

I have trouble making sense of it, too,  sometimes.  I just got one about American Arlines - and by posting about it, just made sure I'll get more...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 11, 2012, 02:32:53 PM
Official trailer - ALL HALLOWS EVIL (Lord of the Harvest) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hxXVr32l8c#ws)

Oh it looks bad...gotta find it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 13, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
Strangers with Candy ( First Draft) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRnkezQKyAM#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 14, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
More playing with the camera.  Last nights difficulty: song and dance with no spotlighting and manual focus. 

Only time he would look at us was before the performance: 
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TNC96ml_lHk/UMqqsvXLqQI/AAAAAAAAO3Q/UJuSqe8dpY4/s800/IMGP1604.jpg)

Kyle doesn't sing so much as he violently attacks songs...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vLqgIzLdf00/UMqqs1GjBYI/AAAAAAAAO3Q/F-HzVyqyYaw/s800/IMGP1609.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9QfvbmHd5hQ/UMqqso3JCJI/AAAAAAAAO3Q/Qbq-Dc0a9eM/s800/IMGP1612.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E45Qpbe4y8M/UMqqtdWS52I/AAAAAAAAO3Q/PfOxGYwETsI/s800/IMGP1616.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-62axwU-_Fvw/UMqqtrKXBBI/AAAAAAAAO3Q/-sqHPOFP0qg/s800/IMGP1617.jpg)

The thing that's most shocking for me is the massive change in COLOR that this lens is providing compared to the kit lenses.  Everything is much more true to color in the RAW files, so I don't have to spend ages fiddling.  Should have bought these years ago. 


We get another christmas concert coming on Teusday for Alec.  Might break out the 200MM for that one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 15, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
This is a copy of a Pumpkinrot prop from a number years back, with the addition of fog and green lights. 

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8356/8270262211_7d573b62db_b.jpg)

Not really been a fan of the green in pumpkins, but the CFL's here do a pretty good job, still think it would be better in orange. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 20, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Fearnet: Snowman on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/55919395)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 20, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
Hm...

don't like vimeo here?  Not having trouble elsewhere, but getting errors here. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 20, 2012, 07:27:20 PM
Beats me.  I didn't know it would autoembed anything besides YouTube...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 23, 2012, 03:32:16 PM
Our sunday routine involves getting Tali ready early and turning on 'her shows'. 

Well, this morning was an old Christmas special instead of "her shows". 

I was caught completely by surprise. 

It appears 'Toy Story' COMPLETELY rips off an old Jim Hansen special "A Christmas Toy". 

Toys that come to life when their owners are out of sight, a Tiger, arrogant favorite toy of his child gets jealous of the new space doll that don't know it's a toy. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 25, 2012, 12:04:21 AM
Well, Trevor's transaction is finally official as he just drove away.  Trying to wrap my head around the fact I essentially now have 2 years worth of budget in my pocket.  Very tempting to go get something big and showy.  I'm resisting, however, and going to stick to rounding out my staples.  Lighting, fog and sound solved forever is the smarter decision.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 25, 2012, 12:11:20 AM
Yes it is. ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 25, 2012, 04:45:10 AM
So, we've been posting about the wise Trex's for years...

Coincidence? 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5j-A-lYcz4M/UNkuB9qtGjI/AAAAAAAAPBE/4SHg4jAjaPI/s800/IMAG0489.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 25, 2012, 06:29:49 PM
Who knows?  I imagine they're at least easy to get for - sheep always make a good snack.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on December 31, 2012, 12:21:59 AM
2013 Halloween has officially begun. 

This is a test of a design for my fence for 2013.  Idea is to animate the bifurcated pumpkins to increase the creepiness. 

There's a bit of a hiccup mostly because I don't have the right size of eye bolts, but they were handy to get a look at the thing in action.  Pretty pleased with my first hour of building for 2013.

(obviously pumpkins on the ends of all the poles, have to be paper mache for weight.)

[video=youtube;l13lhTsWkPA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l13lhTsWkPA[/video]
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 31, 2012, 01:11:42 AM
Fence 2013 early test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l13lhTsWkPA#)

Yeah; that should look awesome in the dark with the lit pumpkins on it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 07, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dTAneHOfNMU/UOs8B_ySAJI/AAAAAAAAPCQ/BhBdj2F2PRs/s800/godzilla_facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 07, 2013, 11:03:05 PM
Because it's funny?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 07, 2013, 11:53:13 PM
Fun day at work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 08, 2013, 12:13:05 AM
Oh. 

At least you're working - not that I didn't enjoy you while you weren't... ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 08, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
Officially getting a little perturbed by the photo contest (suppoed to announce winners new years eve) still not making an announcement.  I want to see which baby in a pumpkin beats me this year already. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 10, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
Uno, I really appreciate you; just want you to know that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 03:15:41 AM
Signs is on again tonight. 

I personally think this is Shyamalan's finest work.  Yes, it's a formulaic monster flick and the underlying religious drama is fairly poorly done, but it's just a charming little film that brings me back to the good old days of horror films. 

Sixth Sense is the traditional favorite, however, IMO, Stir of Echoes tells that same story much better.  While both came out at the same time, Stir of Echoes failed to realize the target audience for horror is teenagers, and did some stupid and unneeded things to purposely attain the R rating, so it was much less popular. 

(The rating thing is a problem with most horror, actually, but that's a topic in and of itself, you look at the truly successful horror movies, they are rated PG-13 with very few exceptions)

My second favorite Shyamalan is The Village.  It's been on my back burner to make one of those creatures for some time...

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 11, 2013, 03:31:19 AM
I thought Signs was distant and unengaging.  I had so much trouble buying into the reality of the story that - I can't can't even come up with a metaphor/joke about it.

The Sixth Sense, on the other hand, sucked me in completely.  Completely.  I cried in the parking lot afterward.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 02:26:25 PM
Go watch Stir of Echoes.  Seriously.  (though the trailer is rather weak)

Stir Of Echoes - Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlqHp4KmofQ#)

I'm a sucker for Alien movies.  Specifically alien abductions in general.  Even the "documentaries" on this get to me, probably because I have a childhood memory that fits most the descriptions that remains unexplained.  So, Signs had that going for it with me heading right in.  Otherwise it harkens back to the classic horror movies to a large degree. It plays like something out of the 50's and probably would have been much better in black and white. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
Stir of Echoes - 3. "Dont Be Afraid of It, Daddy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_p4rlCPNos#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
Mountain of snow falling last night/this morning.  Barely made it in to work and wondering if I'll make it home...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
Yeah, school's canceled this morning now as well (which...I think this is only the second time in my life that's happened, we don't get snow days).  Shoulda stayed home...



http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/week-ending-snowstorm-utah-to/3832305 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/week-ending-snowstorm-utah-to/3832305)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 11, 2013, 02:59:42 PM
Will the kids be okay?  Got any cots in back at work?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
The boss (hEt) is home, so that'll be fine.  I've always had a bug out bag in the car, so I can make do. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 11, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
...I take it work isn't keeping you that busy while you're trapped there...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
Still snowing. 

Was hoping for a break.  Weather service just issued a new warning 2 more feet of snow expected tonight.  Which probably means a fair bit more at my place, being up the hill a ways.  The base is having a snow day, which is insane, so no, no real work going on.  Almost time to start making the slow trip home.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 11, 2013, 09:05:03 PM
You think you can make it, then?  Whatever you do, be safe, man.  Please.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 11, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
I've driven in worse.  This car just plain sucks in snow though.  This is my 3rd Tercel, and the first one to handle poorly in snow.  It's a question of one particular hill, really, and I can park in the hotel at the bottom and hike up that last stretch to home if I have to. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 12, 2013, 02:09:06 AM
'twas quite the little hike in 4' of snow.  Maybe I need to invest in some snowshoes. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 12, 2013, 02:13:20 AM
Did you get killed?  I would miss you if you turned out to be dead now.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 12, 2013, 02:57:12 AM
Just had to ditch the car.  There were enough off the road attempting the hill to know I stood no chance.  I didn't hike up the road either, but up the foot path, which was...interesting...given the weather.  It's quite hidden even without snow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Green1 on January 12, 2013, 03:55:02 AM
I hate snow. But, where I am at it has been raining nonstop for days and I am getting stir crazy.

I really wanted to get on a brand new cruiser bike I have aquired.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 12, 2013, 04:06:00 AM
There's been several days of non-stop rain in North Texas, too.  And almost cold enough to be winter, sorta.  Clear and 71 was nice today.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 12, 2013, 06:17:31 PM
Oh, you left the country again, BU?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 12, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
Yeah; 'fraid I got dragged out've America about a week ago.  Mylochka needed me.

At least I ought to be able to nag Star Trek art out of her better this way.  The sarcifices I make to keep this forum entertaining, let me tell you...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Zoid on January 12, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
I thought Signs was distant and unengaging.  I had so much trouble buying into the reality of the story that - I can't can't even come up with a metaphor/joke about it.

The Sixth Sense, on the other hand, sucked me in completely.  Completely.  I cried in the parking lot afterward.

"Sixth Sense" was one of those films which is even better the second time you're wiewing it because you're in on the joke so to speak and can watch it with a new set of eyes, "The Usual Suspects" was one of those films also. As for M Night Shyamalan so has he continued to push out crap film after crap film since his epic first film. "Unbreakable" was ok "Signs" was kinda awful with a crappy  sentimental script and an overacting Mel Gibson. And don't even get me started on "The Village", OMG...  :wall: How can he still get funding for the crap he's putting out?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 12, 2013, 08:01:29 PM
The Usual Suspects got over with me, too.  I sensed there was a twist coming, but rather expected Chazz Palminteri to turn out to be Keyser Söze.  It's another one that really sucked me in.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 13, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
I thought Signs was distant and unengaging.  I had so much trouble buying into the reality of the story that - I can't can't even come up with a metaphor/joke about it.

The Sixth Sense, on the other hand, sucked me in completely.  Completely.  I cried in the parking lot afterward.

"Sixth Sense" was one of those films which is even better the second time you're wiewing it because you're in on the joke so to speak and can watch it with a new set of eyes, "The Usual Suspects" was one of those films also. As for M Night Shyamalan so has he continued to push out crap film after crap film since his epic first film. "Unbreakable" was ok "Signs" was kinda awful with a crappy  sentimental script and an overacting Mel Gibson. And don't even get me started on "The Village", OMG...  :wall: How can he still get funding for the crap he's putting out?

No, let's get into The Village. 

It's another of the pure old school horror movies that Shyamalan is actually good at.  What's more he got nearly a full cast of method actors that he needs for that one.  And Sigourney.  No one knocks Sigourney.

Now, The Happening is just plain awful, as was his Last Airbender movie.  I'll happily concede those.  Sixth Sense folks REALLY need to go watch Stir of Echoes.  Only thing Sixth Sense is truly good for is to set your kids up for watching The Ring. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Zoid on January 13, 2013, 08:00:03 AM
Clearly we'll have to agree to disagree... ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 14, 2013, 03:00:03 PM
Circling in on a design for the new Chimera.  Been looking at different monstrous dogs. 

Started with the one from Lady in the Water.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PvG5-f8ybvo/UPQWyzMPNnI/AAAAAAAAPD8/KR-WWcHOUcc/s800/3715354_std.jpg)

But, to be a true "chimera" version, it needed something a little more...obscure.  Something nebulous to the creature. 

So, I've circled in on a Barghest. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gLR9_kjWtSo/UPQWyy8WtuI/AAAAAAAAPD4/qzwMYevl9YM/s800/Barghest.png)

Barghests are most normally represented by black ghost dogs, it's true.  Usually with a green glow, which is easy enough for my Chimera designs.  But, they are also shapeshifters, showing up as people, and even bears at different times. 

(notice the humanistic hand)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BvdUbcg1K7U/UPQWy2CxzzI/AAAAAAAAPD0/COBiWBgpQsY/s800/barghest.JPG)

Then, my son has this thing on his Ipod as a wallpaper, and I caught a glimpse...love the skulls.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fugMdc7eCgY/UPQbqUWzuPI/AAAAAAAAPFg/bWHW3kiXaAk/s800/media_2985629.jpg)

Currently trying to come up with a pose. I want one hand outstreatched to highlight that humanistic hand, which leaves me needing a tripod formation from the other 3 feet for stability. 

Have the conduit and chicken wire ready to go, will get going soon, but have lots of kids' crap going on now between science fairs, state reports, basketball, and ski lessons.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 14, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Hm.  Just got an email asking if I'd give a lecture on home haunt design at transworld, including designing an example at the show. 

Not gonna happen, but flattering.  First time the event organisers have invited me.  4th year in a row I've been invited, usually by wildfire.  good to see they are reaching out to the home haunter though.  It's traditionally focused strictly on the business end. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 14, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Hey, what part of Texas you in, BU?

Just got another invite to HauntCon, which would be more doable than Transworld, down in Irving. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 14, 2013, 06:54:51 PM
Irving is one of those towns a bit north of Dallas isn't it?  I'm in Denton, which is, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 16, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Mama - Trailer 2 (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ngqwc7gmI#ws)

Definitely in my 'wait for dvd' pile.  (considering only about 2-3 films/year ever make the 'see in theater' pile, that actually means I'm looking forward to this one)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 20, 2013, 01:07:54 AM
Mama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD9AZF8aJvQ#)
Original short for the film above
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 21, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
What do you like about this?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 21, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
Oh, it's going to be stupid and cliche jump scares throughout, I make no pretense otherwise.  It's an original concept (for the horror genre anyway) and those are few and far between. 

I highly doubt I would buy the film, I own very few horror movies newer than 1950.


Had been waiting for an elbow injury to heal up, but got out and built a frame for the new monster today.  Think I reinjured the eblow in the process. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 21, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
The new monster?  Have you mentioned it before?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 21, 2013, 07:46:11 PM
Couple posts up with all the concepts I've been looking at? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 21, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
So you have settled on the Barghest, or what?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 21, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
I would say it is heavily influenced by the Barghest, but it will definitely bear a resemblance to Chimera 1 and some definite Chimera 3 influence that would only be obvious to myself. 

Or maybe best said that it's an unorthodox Barghest. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 02:09:00 AM
Here's the frame as it stands.  Didn't get as far as I'd like, but I need to get some stuff monster mudded on next so I can move forward with wiring before doing more of the frame, and it's far too cold for the mud to dry properly.   

The right arm and tail both need to be adjusted and probably cut, but it's not a priority at the moment.  The arm needs the head done before final posing, and the tail needs the legs done. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_u_XfDOAPlY/UP3yQ9m-cLI/AAAAAAAAPGg/2Jsn1fFJIMs/s800/IMG_6657.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EBv67K6KPR8/UP3yRM9PdcI/AAAAAAAAPGk/h2I6INeDENc/s800/IMG_6659.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 02:57:34 AM
Well, take good care of that elbow, but I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 03:48:07 AM
I am liking "The Following" very much so far. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 03:53:29 AM
What's that?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 04:04:33 AM
Kevin bacon's new serial killer drama TV show.  Murders all inspired by Poe, written/directed by the guy who did "Scream", and it shows with some clearly horror inspired scenes. 

It's almost like a serial version of "Seven". 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 04:14:20 AM
Inspired by Poe?  I imagine you don't hate his stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 04:20:08 AM
I have an absurd amount of it memorized...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 04:24:43 AM
Why am I not surprized?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 04:33:49 AM
I memorized The Raven way back in 4th grade.  The rest of the poetry was simple after that.  The popular shorts are easy as well.  It's the more unusual ones that raise eyebrows. 


Think his was the first book I ever bought with my own money. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 04:42:32 AM
You?  Raising eyebrows?

That Poe really could spin a yarn.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 06:30:33 PM
I apparantly am going  to have to find a new source for candles. 

The source I bought from last year has stopped selling plain candles, and they're all now either dressed for spells or decorated for Catholics.  I was hoping it was just a Christmas thing with the sudden explosion of catholic saints, but the new shipment was all dressed.  While I wouldn't be opposed to burning a suitable spell (or 50) at the prices they are asking their dressing methods fail to impress me and I foresee too many problems to make it worthwhile. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 22, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
Bummer.  Candles are easy enough to make, but too much of a pain to be worth it for plain ones.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 22, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
It's the total lack of the jars that would keep me from making my own at this point.  This place was selling novena/7 day candles for under $1, I can't even find the empty jars for under $3 elsewhere. 

Looks like dollar tree has some, though.  Just would prefer to support a local place. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 23, 2013, 06:39:43 PM
How is it I always get volunteered to teach new people the computer system?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 23, 2013, 07:52:53 PM
Because you didn't hide how clever you are.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 23, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
I've also never hidden my lack of patience. 

Every job I've had, I get stuck with this...

I've stopped being surprised when people can't basically navigate a windows environment, however. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 24, 2013, 03:06:27 AM
Watching face-off tonight (well, we record it, watch the start, fast forward all the drama and watch the reveals), and one of the guys built a plague doctor that when it stepped out, I openly laughed since MY outfit was better last year. 

Sure enough, he was sent home. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 24, 2013, 04:24:08 AM
Is that one of those things they show instead of science fiction on SyFi these days?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 24, 2013, 01:52:42 PM
It's a lot closer to actual scifi than most their stuff.  I mean, there was a cyborg in the competition, so, there's at least that.  The competition usually has a star trek week as well. 

Competition was for a new DC superhero btw.  I was disappointed the "winner" was clearly not the most original/best job but the one easiest to market. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 27, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
FWIW, Xcom is not the only AAR I've undertaken recently. 

http://www.halloweenforum.com/tutorials-step-step/125072-monster-mudding-unorthodox-chimera-tutorial.html (http://www.halloweenforum.com/tutorials-step-step/125072-monster-mudding-unorthodox-chimera-tutorial.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 27, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
Great AAR, but the "Weird Guy Making Stuff" game lacks conflict...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 28, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
AND the WINNER in the best decoration category of the phot contest IS!!!!!

really? 
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZdCJXXCwlnM/UQagMXAhq3I/AAAAAAAAPeE/I1pqISqsDFU/s800/crows.jpg)

2nd place.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WgTtnnVa6zQ/UQagNqCLKTI/AAAAAAAAPeQ/mGnmKV__CNg/s800/untitled.jpg)

3rd.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f1DThSUB9wI/UQagNj_FC0I/AAAAAAAAPeM/Q0Rkl0jUvRU/s800/rock.jpg)

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 28, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Nice photography, but what's it to do with design?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 28, 2013, 05:46:40 PM
Isn't #3 like a microscopic image or something?  #2 is the only one I would even call nice photography myself. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 28, 2013, 06:14:07 PM
No telling what #3 is.  Maybe a close-up on some popcorn shooped a little?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 29, 2013, 03:54:43 AM
Wow.  The Following sure tapered off in a hurry boiling down into a standard police drama. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 29, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Is it just me or does this photographer not make these all look like shots for a horror movie?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/01/25/ilona_szwarc_american_girls_and_their_owners_photos.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/01/25/ilona_szwarc_american_girls_and_their_owners_photos.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 29, 2013, 09:54:20 PM
Dunno about horror, exactly, but they are all markedly somber...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 29, 2013, 10:00:38 PM
How do you get eyes to look that DEAD?  Seriously. 



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 29, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
Professional portrait photographers tend to be good at that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 29, 2013, 10:54:07 PM
Hm, my teacher must have skipped that lesson. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 29, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
The camera loves me, but not when a portrait photographer's there to kill the magic.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 30, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
So, last Friday, freezing rain, news warning everyone to stay off roads, no school closure.
Monday, 5 inches snow, no closure.
Teusday, 14 inches of snow, widely reported plows would not be able to keep up, no closure.
Wed, forecasted 1-3 inches "due to impending winter storm warnings school will be cancelled".

WTF?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on January 31, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
I am astounded by the level of contempt on display.  Going to be a fun year...

Work crap, can't really go into. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 01, 2013, 02:04:28 PM
Minor frame update and fit test for the fog machine.   

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yYAiD4HRF9E/UQvJWdBEynI/AAAAAAAAQG0/Lmnd16nYap4/s800/IMG_6660.JPG)

Might actually get around to some monster mud this weekend, but might be too busy.

Picked up my book.  Had to laugh.  That would be fun to build. 
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6kTYNHLwiTc/UQvJWSGIvhI/AAAAAAAAQHE/jDXx5VcoSoI/s800/IMG_6662.JPG)


 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 01, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
Quote
FREMONT -- The scariest feature of the Stelle family's haunted house attraction this year is all the red tape the family has to cut through to make it happen.

The Fremont family's plans to continue their six-year tradition were severed when they received a notice last week from the city's building and safety department, which said the Halloween haunt is in violation of several municipal codes.

Chris Stelle, 18, had spent about three months working on the 12-room House of Horrors with at least 40 volunteers when he received the notice.

In the notice, the city says the Stelles lack a permit for their scare structure and ruled it an improper use of residential land. Stelle said the city began investigating the haunted house when a neighbor complained.

Stelle and his family have hosted the House of Horrors for the community since he was 12. What began as a 50-foot-long structure made out of plastic garbage bags has expanded to a 1,500-square-foot maze of screams and scares that is almost as big as his one-story, four-bedroom house.

"We didn't think that having a haunted house in your backyard is illegal," Stelle said. "We don't charge anyone, and we give them candy and stuff when they come back out. I don't see it as a crime."

City officials did not return calls for comment

The family led about 50 spook seekers through the haunted house in the first year, Stelle said. Last year, there were more than 1,500.

"I love to scare people, and see families happy with their children," Stelle said. "We do it for the community; we do it for the families."

While the house is free to the public, there is a suggested donation of $3 that either goes back to helping make next year's structure even more frightening or to local charities, Stelle said. The family also collects money for UNICEF and canned goods for food pantries.

Stelle and his family spent $800 to $1,000 of their own money to improve the house this year, though many of their supplies are donated by local businesses.

Since receiving the notice, the family has been scrambling to make sure their house doesn't end up in the graveyard. The notice required that the family not put the structure on residential land - they've begun taking it down and plan to erect it in the parking lot of Fremont's Center for Spiritual Living.

As for the permit, city officials told the Stelles that it may take up to 30 days to get approved. The family put in an application immediately and is now talking with the city's fire chief to bring the house up to code. That includes getting fire extinguishers and emergency exit signs, maybe even smoke detectors.

Stelle said the chief also told them that they would have to rebuild the all-wood structure with fireproof plywood, which would cost them upward of $30,000 - something the family can't afford.

"It's really hard," he said. "For them to be OK with the fact that we may have to cancel it this year for good - we just want to see everyone happy this year."

The family is still holding out hope for a Halloween miracle, but Stelle said the city won't be able to exorcise the spirit of the house forever - they'll be back, bigger and better, next year.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fremont-cracks-down-on-haunted-house-2327197.php#ixzz2JfvO3zAq (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fremont-cracks-down-on-haunted-house-2327197.php#ixzz2JfvO3zAq)


Yeah...you do take money.  AND you built a 1500 sq ft structure out of pallets. 

morons. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 02, 2013, 11:41:52 PM
Bleh.  They stopped making the clay I like and the replacement stuff is WAY too soft for my taste. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 03, 2013, 12:53:41 AM
Forgive string camera for the crappy pic.  Just rough form, I'll make a plaster shell then do the actual sculpt on top of that with stuff I like more. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8RiRWfDryVw/UQ20NKgZTKI/AAAAAAAAQH0/FMSAB_s6xPA/s800/IMG_6668.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 03, 2013, 12:56:55 AM
Evil Zoidburg!  I like.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Zoid on February 03, 2013, 08:27:40 AM
It must be my evil twin  ;uno
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 03, 2013, 10:14:31 PM
It's altered a bit this morning now the clay is dried a bit so it's more firm for me to work with.  The fangs curved a bit more dramatically down, dried enough to support it's weight upside down, so it sits or I'd get pics.  I'm still not 100% sold on it, but everyone else in the house really likes it. 

Anyhow, had been avoiding mentioning this...

Wedding prep is nearly done.  (hEt's cousin)  I'm doing the flowers, hEt is doing the cake.  Not things we widely advertise (though I believe I've mentioned my training with floral arrangements earlier), and we're not getting paid.  The house is an utter disaster right now, but everything is in the fridge(s) ready for the morning. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 05, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
Looking at it this morning, I'm thinking a lower jaw is needed on the thing.  With some warthog inspired tusks...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: testdummy653 on February 07, 2013, 02:52:55 AM
Uno did you watch the latest following?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 07, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
It's on DVR, I've watched about half of it.  Saw the masked dude immolate the fellow then stab the other.  Overall, wasn't impressed up to that point.  I think the show suffers in that the best villain is locked up.  The "followers" are just not that interesting so far and there's been little here that hasn't been done (usually better) in Criminal Minds. 

Except the girl.  She has potential. 

Show would be better if the leader was still out and they can only manage to capture an underling each week, IMO. 

Been a busy week, haven't had much time to sit and do much of anything. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: testdummy653 on February 07, 2013, 03:09:17 PM
I think my biggest issue is with the M. Night Shyamalan moments. They have one of those moments in every episode and ruins the effect of having a twist if its expected by the audience.

Joe Carrol is the a very good villain. I hope he gets out!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 08, 2013, 05:55:49 PM
In All My Dreams I Drown - The Devil's Carnival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYIioYDI2Iw#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 08, 2013, 07:02:34 PM
The Devil's Carnival (Grace For Sale by Terrance Zdunich) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2stAMSl7k#ws)

Yeah, this movie grows on you.  Confusing as all hell, and obviously weak, but the audio is pretty fun.  Last year was DrHorrible, this year may be Devil's Carnival as the primary soundtrack as I make my builds...especially since they're making #2. 

The Devil's Carnival: Episode 2 Teaser Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne5aZ0Gt4Es#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 08, 2013, 07:28:58 PM
The stuff you've posted is certainly atmospheric.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 08, 2013, 08:10:20 PM
Last year most building was to Dr Horrible.

The year before that it was Repo!

The year before that was Little Shop of Horrors. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 10, 2013, 02:59:17 AM
Li Hongbo - Pure White Paper on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/54967505)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 11, 2013, 03:50:09 AM
So, mummies are coming to Utah. 

http://www.mummiesoftheworld.com/ (http://www.mummiesoftheworld.com/)

I'm attempting to get permission to photograph. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 12, 2013, 02:24:29 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/science/flights-of-winged-majesty-review-of-the-unfeathered-bird.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/science/flights-of-winged-majesty-review-of-the-unfeathered-bird.html?_r=0)

I think I'm going to have to find that one...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 12, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
Ah hahahahaha!


Little Shop Of Horrors Alternate Ending In Color! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSPsyCYaIW4#ws)


Don't know HOW I missed the original FINALLY being released last October.  Searching local stores NOW!

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 13, 2013, 02:41:51 PM
So, mummies are coming to Utah. 

http://www.mummiesoftheworld.com/ (http://www.mummiesoftheworld.com/)

I'm attempting to get permission to photograph.


Museum says no
PR firm says yes
Museum says no, it creates conflict with other patrons
PR firm says it don't care. 
Museum says no.
Exhibit Owner says let me do it.
Museum says no.  If they let me they have to let everyone. 

 ???


So, we're trying for a private screening after hours.  Mummies by midnight has a certain ring to it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 13, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
I COULD just got get media accreditation, it's a cost I'd rather avoid, but would shut the Museum up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 13, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
Another in the list of bizaar things I get told at work. 

"Failure is good for business."

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 13, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
You make the business you're in sound so very Dilbert...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 13, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
In the long run failure that you understand and can learn from could be better than success that you misunderstand.

Somehow, I think this is about something closer to Dilbert.

I'm glad to hear that you still have work, Uno.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 13, 2013, 10:48:38 PM
Failure probably makes for missles they will get hired to dismantle/convert...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 15, 2013, 10:09:14 PM
So the mummy thing is not going well...

I'm contemplating making a public stink about it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 15, 2013, 10:18:48 PM
You'd have to get them wet first.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 16, 2013, 04:11:49 AM
The day and age of social media tends to favor the little guy...

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 16, 2013, 04:16:28 AM
Anywho, Asylum themed haunt 2 hours south (~100 miles) is remodeling and wants me to come adapt my prison theme to fit their facility, and is open to pulling the extreme mode/hands ON.



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 16, 2013, 04:22:38 AM

Ugh...yeah, it needs to be gutted. 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtAaF631AI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtAaF631AI#)

I can almost do a room by room what not to do on that thing.   :-\
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 16, 2013, 04:24:02 AM
I take it you want the gig?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 16, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
I don't know, there's a LOT of work that needs doing and it's far enough to be inconvenient.  The floor plan really needs to be redone first of all, and that might not even be an option. 

They recognize it's broken, at least. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 16, 2013, 04:42:06 AM
You always have complex feelings about working on anyone else's haunt...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 16, 2013, 04:46:53 AM
You'd have to get them wet first.

Ha!Ha!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 16, 2013, 04:50:34 AM
...Somebody actually got the joke  :danc: ...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 16, 2013, 04:05:14 PM
I recall having to actually do that with some bugs.  Dried out, they're too brittle to mount for display, so I had to come up with a way to...refresh their bodies.  It takes more than water...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 18, 2013, 02:54:24 PM
Doh!

Forgot to upload the update on the new chimera. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 19, 2013, 01:55:02 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tG4DOiNRPfo/USLX-lveDCI/AAAAAAAAQu4/UGSwR_LJPw4/s800/IMG_6669.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7xTHPRIFZJQ/USLX-iUXQnI/AAAAAAAAQu0/wG64NhDn2QE/s800/IMG_6671.JPG)

Plaster shell done.  Ready to start on the clay. 

Went to a local mom and pop craft store to get the clay.  They are as cheap as using a coupon at one of the chain stores for this particular clay, more expensive on some other items.  While there, I noticed a ton of jars I can use to make candles were on sale, so I grabbed up a bunch of those, and some various other supplies.  All told I had more than $100 in the cart.  I wheel up to the register: "Hey, you bought clay here before didn't you?" 

"Yeah, we bought a bunch last year."

"You were building that big thing for Halloween, right?  How did that turn out?"

"Oh, the tomb turned out great, wish I had a picture on me to show you.  We ended up selling him." 

"Just a minute." 

-comes back with owner.

"We're totally giving you a discount." 

(Manager)"We've been watching your work on your website and would like to become a sponsor, if you're open to such a thing.  We'd also be happy to sell any of your items here in the shop if you need an outlet." 

http://www.bennioncrafts.com/about-us/ (http://www.bennioncrafts.com/about-us/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 19, 2013, 01:56:44 AM
SWEEEEET!

You da man.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on February 19, 2013, 02:26:15 AM
 :danc:

That is really cool.  So full of posibillity.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 19, 2013, 02:33:51 AM
I think I have found my goal for 2014.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YbIHgdV6Ti8/USLj8g6WPOI/AAAAAAAAQvk/f_Tf2V566Io/s800/the_guardian_by_radojavor-d4dqnw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 19, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mVaoTO5qc6Q/USLj8rPVesI/AAAAAAAAQvc/5lRf1uJjv60/s800/darkness_at_the_edge_of_town_by_radojavor-d5jdqlp.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Zoid on February 19, 2013, 02:51:29 PM


Went to a local mom and pop craft store to get the clay.  They are as cheap as using a coupon at one of the chain stores for this particular clay, more expensive on some other items.  While there, I noticed a ton of jars I can use to make candles were on sale, so I grabbed up a bunch of those, and some various other supplies.  All told I had more than $100 in the cart.  I wheel up to the register: "Hey, you bought clay here before didn't you?" 

"Yeah, we bought a bunch last year."

"You were building that big thing for Halloween, right?  How did that turn out?"

"Oh, the tomb turned out great, wish I had a picture on me to show you.  We ended up selling him." 

"Just a minute." 

-comes back with owner.

"We're totally giving you a discount." 

(Manager)"We've been watching your work on your website and would like to become a sponsor, if you're open to such a thing.  We'd also be happy to sell any of your items here in the shop if you need an outlet." 

:D Seriously?? And who said good things never happen to good people! ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 20, 2013, 06:19:24 PM
Just put in an order for a dozen motors.  Figured if I was buying I may as well buy extras for future years. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
Ordering seeds...

Baffling how many seeds I'm planting this year.  8 varieties of pumpkins, 3 varieties of corn, 2 beans, all just for Halloween. 

Ok, the corn's for eatin' too.  Well, 2 of the varieties are. 

Maybe a few pumpkins will get eaten.  Any luck we'll be selling again. 

Beans were mostly for the three sisters, hence went with ornamental varieties to increase bee traffic. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2013, 08:20:25 PM
How much will not be eaten?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
Probably very little of the beans.  They're not great eaters.  I'll likely eat a few as they sprout, but that's it.  Mostly planting for the flowers to bring bees to the pumpkins, and to add nitrogen to the soil for the corn. 

Planting 2 waves of corn for eating (an early corn and a later one), and most of it will get eaten, though might end up selling some as well.  A third variety is only good for animal feed, planting specifically because it makes great stalks for decoration. 

Might eat 2-3 pumpkins, last year we grew 35 at our house, I'm planting more than double the plants (does not mean double the harvest).  What's not eaten gets sold or carved.  Carved ones get composted. 

2 french varieties being planted, one we had last year and did OK, but not great, decided to try it again because they tasted good, and I want to try the pumpkin cookies I utterly failed at again. 

The second is a BROWN pumpkin with a deep orange meat inside.  Should make for some interesting jacks, and is supposed to be excellent eating. 

Luminas will by my primary harvest (white pumpkins), as they did great last year.  Doubling up on them. 

Sugar pumpkins are a neccessity.  Normally used for pies, I need some smaller ones so I can impale them this year. 

3 varieties of mini pumpkins for my daughter (came as a mix), planning to trellis them up the chainlink fence.     

The family heirloom pumpkins at my Uncle's as usual.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 22, 2013, 08:40:34 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4lNJWbIQwMY/USfXPArWM1I/AAAAAAAARMY/yWHBAGvc5Fs/s800/pumpkinmusqsliced.jpg)

See, that just screams Unolantern. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 22, 2013, 08:43:27 PM
I'd scream too, if you cut a chunk outta me...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 23, 2013, 01:53:33 AM
Promise? :knifemaniac:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 23, 2013, 02:18:22 AM
Sure; I promise to scream.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 27, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Td9CXN3Eq3w/US4elHefOBI/AAAAAAAAROE/-fRGg8x_q_A/s800/untitled.jpg)

I think I'm going to have to make a version of these. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 28, 2013, 03:48:43 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wmppdDnuB-E/US7M1dbfIPI/AAAAAAAAROk/qioUcmGdKpA/s800/IMGP1800.jpg)

I only got half done.  Didn't get to my Unorthodox additions. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 28, 2013, 03:55:53 AM
What's the trick to doing it?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on February 28, 2013, 01:51:59 PM
No tricks, just paint and water and dirt. 

I'm adding some monster mud holders to mine, but I'm apparantly out of monster mud and I can't mix any til it warms up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 01, 2013, 09:39:45 PM
Just came out of the sequestration meeting, basically we don't know anything yet. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2013, 05:58:18 AM
Watching Vikings on history. 

Not what I expected.  Interesting art direction though.  I like "the ancient one".  Tent, bones, deformities.  Someone had fun with that design. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 04, 2013, 10:06:29 PM
So, the snow we were supposed to be getting has come in as rain, with temps 10 degrees higher than anticipated. 

If the forecast holds, we wont be below freezing again through the weekend.  I actually got some mud made in celebration as this means I can actually get some monster mud up on the Barghest. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 05, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Structural fit test just prior to soldering and wiring the Chimera's lighting. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JcekbUfFqsM/UTVy5xx3yUI/AAAAAAAARbA/6Ej2Y92nvoY/s800/IMGP1806.jpg)

Ran into a small problem in the new adhesive I'm trying out isn't holding up as well as hoped, so some separation happened between the clay and the plaster wrap at the neck.  This was planned to be reinforced by monster mud later anyway, but disappointing none the less.  Probably going to have to think of a backup adhesive. 

All wired and soldered and set, I know why I'm doubling the lighting in the chest of a chimera for the first time, but boy it looks BRIGHT at the moment.  All part of the plan, but just hoping it works out as intended. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: testdummy653 on March 05, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
Uno, what do you think of NBC's plans to make Hannibal?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 05, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
First I've heard of it. 

Really not much of a TV person.  I think the only thing I watch regularly is "Face Off". 

edit: Looked it up, the director is not exactly exciting me. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: testdummy653 on March 05, 2013, 07:15:01 PM
I'm more of a hulu/netflix guy myself. The tv spot made it sound like a ripoff of the following.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 05, 2013, 08:16:45 PM
Um, subtle differences.

I have no doubt the Following took some inspiration from Hannibal Lecter, so there were bound to be some similarities.  But, Hannibal is as much an asset to the cops as he is a threat.  The following dude is no asset.  I've read the books, seen plenty of movies pull this thing, I just don't know how well a network TV series can take the character.  Plus you have some great performances from the movies that would need be overcome to make the character memorable on the series. 

There's potential in the concept, sure, I'm just not excited by the writing, directing, or casting at the moment. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Mylochka on March 06, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
Buncle suggested that I post this picture here.  It's an entry for a "Worst Nightmare" art contest. 

The title is "We Likes to Start with the Toesies..."
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 06, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
Sounds like my kind of art contest.  Where is it?  Would love to see the whole contest.

I've never been one who could relate to the whole clown phobia.  However, I have studied it extensively, as I've done 3 separate professional gigs with the funhouse/clown theme. 

It's an interesting alley you've assembled here, were you looking for a critique? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Mylochka on March 06, 2013, 08:21:41 PM
It's for this contest. http://mylochka.deviantart.com/art/Worst-Nightmare-Competition-Extended-350647792 (http://mylochka.deviantart.com/art/Worst-Nightmare-Competition-Extended-350647792)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 06, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
Thank you.  It's too bad I can't draw worth a darn.  (no matter the medium) 

I make killer blueprints and stick figures though. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 10, 2013, 03:49:44 AM
Decent enough weather today.  Working back to front, reasoning will become clear a little later. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ePBeKFKqk4s/UTwAiFGIOVI/AAAAAAAARkU/EYe0iipMqm0/s800/IMGP1812.jpg)

The mud was too heavy for the wire, so the paint buckets there are adding some support. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Sql2iDcgdxc/UTwAig5c34I/AAAAAAAARkY/HHIwJA3EU-M/s800/IMGP1813.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 10, 2013, 04:00:09 AM
Intruders Official Trailer #2 - Clive Owen Movie (2012) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP4ctHlPSQ8#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 11, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
The cats are afraid of the Chimera head.

First thing they've ever been anything but interested in using as a bed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 14, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
Oops. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 14, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 14, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 14, 2013, 07:21:37 PM
 ;nuke; :-X O:-)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 14, 2013, 07:27:55 PM
Oh, work.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 18, 2013, 03:05:25 PM
I apparantly am going  to have to find a new source for candles. 

The source I bought from last year has stopped selling plain candles, and they're all now either dressed for spells or decorated for Catholics.  I was hoping it was just a Christmas thing with the sudden explosion of catholic saints, but the new shipment was all dressed.  While I wouldn't be opposed to burning a suitable spell (or 50) at the prices they are asking their dressing methods fail to impress me and I foresee too many problems to make it worthwhile.

So, they have new vanilla candles in place for Easter.   :D  Seems the vanilla (plain, not the scent) ones are just around for holidays.  (there is a bit of a language barrier here)

So, now I have some decisions to make. 

Do we go with the 7 day candles of last year.  (all but the one by the head here)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B1R1zNSBqPM/UJKEj6oYvDI/AAAAAAAAOgk/9bP9jQ4R1DY/s800/IMG_5026.JPG)

Or with my new ones?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wmppdDnuB-E/US7M1dbfIPI/AAAAAAAAROk/qioUcmGdKpA/s800/IMGP1800.jpg)

Or a mixture?  Or do I muddy up some of the 7 days like my new ones? 

I also need to be careful with the 7 days.  They had mixed up a spell one with my regulars last year.  Ironically, it was a spell to repell spirits, and was swiftly overpowered and REFUSED to stay lit.  (did not have this problem the next day, so wasn't a quality problem, when I noticed it was a spell candle mistakenly mixed in with the rest of my white ones.  In candle magic, this is indicative of resistance or failure of the spell.  Considering I do have some minor magics worked around the yard to specifically attract the right spirits, I found it funny, personally.)

Kyle, with middle trouble candle shown.  Attempted to light 5 times before giving up.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eo14TTwwUaE/UJKE_YkR9AI/AAAAAAAAOqM/wlBI1tjZGL0/s800/IMG_5108.JPG)

Then, of course, there's the question of sticking to white, or moving on to red and/or black? 

Black is traditionally viewed as "evil" by hollywood, and can be usefull in that sense, and is usefull as protection in case I royally screw up some of the symbols I'm intending to be nonsense.  However, black wax doesn't get that nice luster that others do. 

Red is more rarely used for "evil", and has the property of increasing the energy of whatever workings, which could make it valuable if I pull everything off right, or potentially dangerous if I screw something up. 



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 18, 2013, 10:35:41 PM

 It's an entry for a "Worst Nightmare" art contest. 



You'll be happy to know Tim Curry (who's portrayal of Pennywise is the source of many clown fears) is doing another clown horror movie.

GINGERCLOWN 3D - (2013) - Mad Monsters Edition - Trailer [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o23C_ezbbC4#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 19, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
SO!

The latest in the long line of Uno family drama I've been mostly silent about over here:

As predicted a few years ago, my brother is going down in flames.  They've kept it floating longer than I expected, sure.  This is taking both brothers down.  One terribly, the second I got no idea how hard a crash it's going to be.  No idea how much my parents have thrown onto the Titanic, either.  I'm the family [jerk, sphincter] for refusing to toss our future into it as well, and had resigned myself to that fate some time ago, hence no real need to talk about it.  . 

There's some legal bullcrap going on that might let them salvage something out of the wreckage. 

The good news:  I'm not going down with the ship, and foresaw this long enough ago to make SOME plans for my Halloween sound equipment, as I DO have a mixing board and serviceable speakers.

The Bad news:  I'm not 100% prepared, and will likely have sub-par sound this year as I won't have the concert grade speakers this year.    (SINCE I'm getting screwed on this.  I actually had an order in which won't be honored as a result of this crap...)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2013, 05:26:57 PM
"Hey, I know you!"

"Guys! This is that Halloween guy I've been telling you about.  What is that thing you're building in your garage?"

My day just got 10 times better.  It's March and the first thing people think about is Halloween.  Awesome. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Good work is naturally going to attract attention.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2013, 05:54:45 PM
Friend at Transworld, new stuff for the year:

Transworld 2013: Professional Halloween Prop Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XkYRaNs3R4#ws)


0:00~1:00
TV's in props.  yawn. 

1:00~3:00 every use of a skelerector possible.  Yawn.  (fog machine fake fire ~1:20 is kinda neat, and bonus points for the manual skelerectors built into costumes at the end)

3:25, nifty man eating plant?  Wish it had better motion. 

3:30 costume/mask

The spider at 4:10 is getting a lot of attention from the industry.  I question it's durability. 

Stupid, but LOL at 5:10

The whole line of 'then the actor runs out from below" stuff is played out.  Move on, guys. 

5:35, I like that vendor's style, gonna have to look them up. 

5:56, neat alternative to vortex tunnel that SHOULD be cheaper. 

7:38 Awesome Charon. 

8:47 I keep hoping to see one of these around: horror mode shooting gallery.  do it up as a dark ride ala buzz lightyear of disney or MIB of Universal, and you would have a hit. 

Bottom line, not a whole lot new to be excited about.  The push of more 'hands on' houses is driving more vendors, which will in turn drive more hands on houses.  I'm too old fashioned.  ;)   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 21, 2013, 06:01:09 PM
5:35, I like that vendor's style, gonna have to look them up. 


Headed by one of the Face Off contestants of the past.  Cool stuff.  Expensive.

http://www.globalfearenterprises.com/products.html (http://www.globalfearenterprises.com/products.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 25, 2013, 02:11:08 AM

The good news:  I'm not going down with the ship, and foresaw this long enough ago to make SOME plans for my Halloween sound equipment, as I DO have a mixing board and serviceable speakers.

The Bad news:  I'm not 100% prepared, and will likely have sub-par sound this year as I won't have the concert grade speakers this year.    (SINCE I'm getting screwed on this.  I actually had an order in which won't be honored as a result of this crap...)



The worse news.  Decided I should break out all the stuff I had purchased for this eventuality and make sure my plan B was working.  Most notably a powered mixer from my brother. 

Well, they failed to include the proprietary power cord, so I'm screwed. 

Have to call the parts department. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2013, 02:23:55 AM
No causal connection between that and the store going under, I guess.  ;sarc
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 25, 2013, 02:37:35 AM
Think you know what I do when [poop] like that happens...

Chimera update.

Wiring test.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aXSsr1vvfQU/UU-1k_HqfGI/AAAAAAAARpc/SG14w4jTaAw/s800/IMGP1824.jpg)

Prepping for new mud...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DCYPxcqDOeI/UU-1lLxnTqI/AAAAAAAARp0/b1IhFgkgx3c/s800/IMGP1825.jpg)

Step one of ribs.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T79QKO9xkYc/UU-1lIbOtgI/AAAAAAAARpw/cilSa50IKfs/s800/IMGP1828%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 25, 2013, 02:44:48 AM
No causal connection between that and the store going under, I guess.  ;sarc
Well, if that was their habit (I had a third party go in and buy it), it sure didn't help them stay open. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 27, 2013, 03:08:49 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HTn7GTL-MJE/UVJhBxDAuLI/AAAAAAAARsI/lMlM7b8DALI/s800/IMGP1832.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JXUpCoRR-HA/UVJhB3iWeHI/AAAAAAAARsA/WX9Ru8By9dw/s800/IMGP1833.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bu8ZvNbY-l4/UVJhBx19N6I/AAAAAAAARsE/6vpxyjERgk0/s800/IMGP1829.jpg)

Debating whether to work on the ribs more or start on the back, or whether those need to be the same step.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2013, 03:14:22 AM
Pretty kick-ass.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 27, 2013, 03:14:50 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HTn7GTL-MJE/UVJhBxDAuLI/AAAAAAAARsI/lMlM7b8DALI/s800/IMGP1832.jpg)


Very important pic, that. 

Tells me the shadow play on the back is going according to plan so far. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on March 27, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
You're going to unleash that next November?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 27, 2013, 06:28:20 PM
I honestly haven't decided WHAT I'm doing with it. 

It's being made because:

1: I needed a project.
2: I've had this concept kicking around for 3 years and wanted to see it through.
3: I'm teaching a course on how to make these things as I go. 

That said, I'm hoping to debut it on Walpurgisnacht (April 30) for a detailed photo shoot. 

After that, it very well may be put up for sale and I'll move on to the next concept to be unleashed in November, err donated to a charity auction.  (SOMEONE has to build a ghost of christmas future for the damn happy lala tree festival, and I guess that's me.) 

Might keep it around, I'm still up in the air on that.  The kids REALLY like it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2013, 06:33:15 PM
...A creepy hooded figure pointing; a bit of horror injected into the kiddie's Christmas...

Thank you, Mr. Dickens.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 27, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
Bah, horror has always been a part of the holiday, long before it was dubbed Christ's bday. 

But, it is one of the more enduring and recognizable sources.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 27, 2013, 07:43:24 PM
Bah indeed, sir.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 28, 2013, 09:58:02 PM
New power cable on the way, customer service gave me no trouble. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 29, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Sculpting in the driveway, neighbors all coming to see the Barghest.  Didn't get as much done as I wanted as a result.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 29, 2013, 04:37:30 PM
Are the neighbors impressed?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 29, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Virtually all conversations follow this general format of questions: 

"Building something for Halloween?"  Will be fun to answer that the GOCF is for Christmas. 

"What are you guys doing this year?"  (which is particularly baffling to me as in my mind we've been "doing" the same thing for 8 years.) 

"How do you make that?"

"Where do you come up with these ideas?"

"You guys planning that party again?" 

"You should make it a pot luck and have everyone help, that's a lot of work."  (though these folks never actually offer to help in October...and we TRIED the potluck with very poor results)

"We look forward to it every year."


Even the guys across the street have fallen in line lately, and I suspect it has something to do with their son trying his hand at a corn maze... 

I'm getting asked if we're selling pumpkins again this year as well.  Only answer to that is it depends how the harvest goes. 

There's some kids in the neighborhood that come over for advice on how to build whatever they are building each year as well, but that's usually around July, and one of them is off to college now (though his younger brother is taking over).  There's also a couple artists that now come chat me up for concepts as well.  (met last year over Trevor)  I have a rather overdeveloped knowledge of obscure 'dark' creatures, so I can generally point them to some research material for just about any random concept they come up with. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 29, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
You're a giving person.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 29, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
Vine Creature Halloween Prop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj5TzGxxKRA#)

Honest opinions.  (just jump to the last ~20 seconds to skip all the WIP)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 29, 2013, 09:01:57 PM
Deft use of the organic texture of the medium (expanding spray foam?)  Very nice.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on March 30, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
Interesting beak, but the details don't come over that much (at least over video). Not enough color difference perhaps?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 30, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
That's a guy that does this for income... 



Anyway, basic body form all mudded, finally.  Need to go make some more mud now, as we have a LOT of the Jute netting to do. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2hbjQwEWj3s/UVdYCUNbuOI/AAAAAAAARvI/15-gAKyDQB8/s800/IMG_6690.JPG)

With any luck the breeze will dry this swiftly and we can try a light and fog test tomorrow.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 31, 2013, 04:16:36 AM
Happy Easter.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oGm0CWgNnuI/UVepQ2XRriI/AAAAAAAARwM/mNJhydKzvRg/s800/IMGP1836.jpg)

(kinda breezy for fog, but I got what I needed to know out of it.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 31, 2013, 04:41:02 AM
Laser?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 31, 2013, 04:59:16 AM
?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 31, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
I guess that's a pipe, but it looks like your monster is being blown away by a green laser beam - like the last reel of a SyFy flick.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 31, 2013, 06:01:51 PM
Oh, gotcha. 

That's the frame for his arm, yeah. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on March 31, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1BVF_XqVpYA/UVepQysdVHI/AAAAAAAARwk/ZPuBEcvqGSM/s800/IMGP1837.jpg)

Showing the....let's call it potential for improvement.  Not sure I'd really qualify it as a problem, but the fog is only coming out the first segment, I want it more even. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R4S_zrUPu78/UVepRT5nqmI/AAAAAAAARwg/hEoW3gm9BE0/s800/IMGP1838.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 01, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/4d6dd517e69731a2f05f03504bb6b358/tumblr_midexnKJ3Z1rbkzyyo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 01, 2013, 04:05:39 PM
What the hell is that?  Love it.  I knew people who honestly thought they were vamps...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 01, 2013, 04:18:12 PM
It's a page from a comic book drawn by Gene Colan.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 04, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
*SIGH*

Another berating from my parents...  and I can't work on the Barghest tonight.  Guess I'm filing this one for the weekend. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 04, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
Are the two related?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 04, 2013, 01:49:22 AM
I always channel my frustrations into my sculpting.  So, yeah.  I work better when I'm pissed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 05, 2013, 02:57:12 AM

The good news:  I'm not going down with the ship, and foresaw this long enough ago to make SOME plans for my Halloween sound equipment, as I DO have a mixing board and serviceable speakers.

The Bad news:  I'm not 100% prepared, and will likely have sub-par sound this year as I won't have the concert grade speakers this year.    (SINCE I'm getting screwed on this.  I actually had an order in which won't be honored as a result of this crap...)



The worse news.  Decided I should break out all the stuff I had purchased for this eventuality and make sure my plan B was working.  Most notably a powered mixer from my brother. 

Well, they failed to include the proprietary power cord, so I'm screwed. 

Have to call the parts department.

Good news.  Plan B works.

Bad news.  It demonstrates why it was plan B. 

Options include redirecting the budget
Selling the Barghest to cover.
Postponing the re-emergence of the tribal music till next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 05, 2013, 03:45:59 AM
I was going to suggest you channel this fresh energy into a sculpture of a  person drowning in say, a tub of  fog, and taking others down with him, and sell that to raise revenue...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 05, 2013, 05:02:47 PM
Moved offices today.  Ah...all alone in a building again...it made me a little odd last time. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Scary thought.

When does the evil crow-training start?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 05, 2013, 05:14:39 PM
More likely snake charming at this place.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
Who's charming; you or the snakes?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2013, 05:17:10 PM
 ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 05, 2013, 08:56:43 PM
I'm sure the snakes are more experienced than I. 

Last time I was up in this area the rattlesnakes hatched and come up through the grates in the floor. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 05, 2013, 08:58:37 PM
Nuthin' but the best for you engineers.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 06, 2013, 12:30:52 AM
I aint no engineer.  They don't get dirty. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 07, 2013, 05:10:52 AM


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7TR1MKL2pro/UWDxRx594yI/AAAAAAAAR4I/8vX2zJ4N8sI/s800/IMG_0004.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on April 07, 2013, 07:10:46 AM
I'm sure the snakes are more experienced than I. 

Last time I was up in this area the rattlesnakes hatched and come up through the grates in the floor.

That is not Okay. That is seriously creepy-scarey. I know that earthworm-sized copperheads are more toxic than the full grown ones. I would have to get out of there. That would make me obsess, become nervous and eventually irrational. The quote "Nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." comes to mind. I'm thinking about workboots, snake chaps, unplugged pumpguns with skeetloads, those propane burners they use to take the needles off of prickly pears ....  and other stuff that isn't safe indoors. 

So how does a rational fellow deal with the situation ? Can you get roadrunners as pets? Maybe hire some Hila Monsters or something. Buy a Kingsnake ?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 07, 2013, 01:12:23 PM
Smoke em out and club em.   Make hat band.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 08, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
"Unique landscape sculpture +$2000"  Was actually listed in our home appraisal with a pic of Chimera 1.  ;uno  The mortgage banker actually emailed me to ask what it was. 

(refinancing to the killer interest rates right now) 



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 08, 2013, 08:54:35 PM
For giggles, I checked...Chimera 1 is even on Google streetview now.  That was setting up for a photoshoot, judging by the torch next to him. 

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=5895+cedar+lane,+ogden&hl=en&ll=41.155377,-111.930575&spn=0.000001,0.000687&hnear=5895+Cedar+Ln,+Ogden,+Weber,+Utah+84403&gl=us&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=41.155377,-111.930575&panoid=_wyWY3IKizyR7dPF8aDEUw&cbp=12,273.99,,0,3.47

And our magpies out checking him out as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 08, 2013, 08:56:59 PM
Scare people, not crows.  Sorta a motto for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 08, 2013, 09:51:15 PM
Bought printer for the new office.

Unpack, it comes with no USB or ethernet cable.  Surely a mistake, right?  Check the packing list in the instructions.  Nope, you have to provide that. 

Lesson: Don't buy a Brother. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 09, 2013, 09:58:37 PM
Dirty, bruised, sore, cut, bleeding. 

Good to be doing some real work again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 14, 2013, 05:15:44 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0pKZt0JG9S8/UWosVzPELkI/AAAAAAAAR5o/sDUNWksseME/s800/IMG_0012.JPG)

Yeah, I know the fingers need to get thicker,  wires only hold so much weight.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 14, 2013, 05:24:54 AM
That's coming along.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 17, 2013, 03:30:37 PM
Catacombs of the Dead on Palermo, Sicily (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CwruorZR9w#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 22, 2013, 04:13:35 AM
Sculpt is 95% complete.  Got one last minute structural addition to hide.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j60lqgjJv2Q/UXSoZnpMrfI/AAAAAAAAR6g/Nyo2xXoqLWo/s800/IMG_0015.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ERGFTvTi4sE/UXSooQvJl1I/AAAAAAAAR7A/CTyDLfwjrlw/s800/IMG_0016.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gTFv_kPyhkQ/UXSoc9St9II/AAAAAAAAR64/WUWmr3V8654/s800/IMG_0018.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 22, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
Neat.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on April 22, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
Looks like something that could wander on Kzinhome.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 22, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
I'm sure it would zero in on prey and never wander.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 22, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Looks like something that could wander on Kzinhome.

Had to google that one. 

Kzinti brought me this:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KwkaFezEoSY/UXVjo7fHSLI/AAAAAAAAR7Y/rT6LOQeGEtQ/s800/untitled.jpg)

Which now I see that, were CLEARLY the inspiration for the CHARR of GW2:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3E3QMvBZksM/UXVkgTXoPzI/AAAAAAAAR7s/bkdNFiIxonU/s800/charr-warrior.jpg)

Which were among my first inspirations for...lets see...5 sculptures of this type ago (and 4 years).  The Charr would create these:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CKXxi-dVX_g/SZmcPudZ_mI/AAAAAAAACzA/qVSa21qNM14/s800/498px-Titan_Effigy.jpeg)

So I sculpted one and won the GW art contest that year:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Dl8vze7LiUA/SuusTh77jnI/AAAAAAAAFMI/dGtsQbXbp_Q/s800/IMGP2279.JPG)


So, they have a shared history in a lot of ways, I just didn't know it. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 22, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
Lord I've gotten a lot better with the medium since then...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 22, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
Quote
Gradually there came a sort of vague beginning of consciousness, then a sense of weariness that was dreadful. For a time I remembered nothing, but slowly my senses returned. My feet seemed positively racked with pain, yet I could not move them. They seemed to be numbed. There was an icy feeling at the back of my neck and all down my spine, and my ears, like my feet, were dead yet in torment; but there was in my breast a sense of warmth which was by comparison delicious.It was as a nightmare--a physical nightmare, if one may use such an expression; for some heavy weight on my chest made it difficult for me to breathe.

This period of semilethargy seemed to remain a long time, and as it faded away I must have slept or swooned. Then came a sort of loathing, like the first stage of seasickness, and a wild desire to be free of something--I knew not what.A vast stillness enveloped me, as though all the world were asleep or dead--only broken by the low panting as of some animal close to me. I felt a warm rasping at my throat, then came a consciousness of the awful truth which chilled me to the heart and sent the blood surging up through my brain. Some great animal was lying on me and now licking my throat. I feared to stir, for some instinct of prudence bade me lie still; but the brute seemed to realize that there was now some change in me, for it raised its head. Through my eyelashes I saw above me the two great flaming eyes. Its sharp white teeth gleamed in the gaping red mouth, and I could feel its hot breath fierce and acrid upon me.

-Bram Stoker Dracula's Guest   Barghest encounter. 

I've had that pinned where I read it every time I go to sculpt. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 24, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
MID JUNE weather forcasted for this weekend.  Awesome!  Should hit my goal for Walpurgisnacht!!!  Bought paint and tie downs from the local hardware store last night (and the owners want to ask me about arrangements for sponsorship, have a meeting next week.  A hardware AND a craft store sponsor, both in walking distance?  I'd be in heaven.)


Most the money from Trevor is being put into the garden.  Among it, we bought a small rototiller.  It's a strange design, and ugly as hell.  (the local shop doesn't sell big equipment like this, just rent)  No wonder it was on clearance half price as Lowes was moving on to brands people might actually recognize.  Going to try to go talk to a metal fabrication place about building a custom plow for the thing so I don't have to furrow by hand. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 26, 2013, 03:17:11 AM
The Barghest says hello to the neighbors across the way...

Tie downs glued on and drying in prep for painting tomorrow. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8cOgJtoYpEo/UXngvsQf40I/AAAAAAAAR80/Btme8LDUqHc/s800/IMG_0019.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EDJdCAHfiIs/UXngvu3krdI/AAAAAAAAR8w/4acsX5SGdpk/s800/IMG_0020.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SjKtWPXGO7Q/UXngvj-WsYI/AAAAAAAAR8s/Z-5FF9Y49lY/s800/IMG_0021.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9YjFj5awSoE/UXngxWTYF5I/AAAAAAAAR88/M29ZzCnhaNM/s800/IMG_0022.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 26, 2013, 03:19:54 AM
 ;lol  and my magpie pair in the background of that last pic coming to check it out. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 26, 2013, 10:18:54 PM
Not having a good day.

First coat on the Barghest. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 26, 2013, 10:47:35 PM
I assume the bad day is something separate from the Barghest, which looks great.  I love how with all your Halloween designs, you go with something organic and old in look, not modern slasher-y obvious stuff.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 01:43:15 AM
Kinda related.  Everything is breaking on me today.  I had lent the power painter to my dad for his fence last year.  He didn't clean it when he was done, it was all frozen, spend a better part of the day fixing that.  But, it works.  again.  mostly.  Lost an attachment for good. 

And that's not the only thing I've been repairing today.  Base coat only, gotta test it to see where we're at in the dark. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kn5teUy_6ps/UXsePmb1VUI/AAAAAAAAR9o/7GspDzywxj4/s800/IMG_0026.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
I assume the bad day is something separate from the Barghest, which looks great.  I love how with all your Halloween designs, you go with something organic and old in look, not modern slasher-y obvious stuff.

I think a lot of that is just the theme I'm going with in the yard.    I always try to step back to Samhain a bit.   I get enough of the other designs in consulting gigs. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on April 27, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
And that's not the only thing I've been repairing today.  Base coat only, gotta test it to see where we're at in the dark.

Think of it being good for your karma if you believe in such things.  ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 02:04:09 PM
As with all Chimera, The Barghest's specialty is wicked shadowplay. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OsM022F5_Nw/UXvJ1IkAL6I/AAAAAAAAR-I/NZZeSGIkBhE/s800/IMG_0027.JPG)

So, the original plan was to come back and do some dry brushing with white and/or grey to highlight some of the features.  I'm wondering if I really want to do that for a creature meant to be made of mist and shadow, though.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TOl8UDHrjqU/UXvJ1OJvpHI/AAAAAAAAR-E/ZMrn_-CmNHM/s800/IMG_0029.JPG)

It didn't picture well with the string camera, but you could see the spines on the back being underlit. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GWogNgfIXwk/UXvJ10yM1VI/AAAAAAAAR-U/P0QLP9Ijx9Y/s800/IMG_0031.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PICAY1Dkg7A/UXvJ2U1P7fI/AAAAAAAAR-g/By8Fw3PLKE8/s800/IMG_0033.JPG)

The only way for me to decide is to do a more thurough test tonight.  Go pull out the torches, turn on the fog, do a full on situation test with the good camera. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 05:42:06 PM
Just got offered $1k for the Barghest, out of the blue, someone knocked on the door. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 27, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
Your time invested's worth more than that.  Gonna take it?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
Don't know honestly. 

2 others have stopped to take pics with their kids in front of it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on April 27, 2013, 09:44:32 PM
They're just stepping on your lawn like they live there? Would be almost unheard of in my part of Europe.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 09:46:48 PM
No, they come knock and ask.  Updated pic after this morning dry brushing.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yyfTJ9a5MA8/UXw0d_ue2aI/AAAAAAAAR_Y/oCVgIr_7EJo/s800/IMGP1852.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LWFJIlIM04Q/UXw0d83H_TI/AAAAAAAAR_c/54IlIxZtUAo/s800/IMGP1853.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gD-mGPUhFMk/UXw0d_vUqBI/AAAAAAAAR_U/L_ep5oUE8jg/s800/IMGP1854.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eHLrSQdaNn0/UXw0fLeZw3I/AAAAAAAAR_4/lH-e5a0gj1o/s800/IMGP1858.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MHCB_edc9SE/UXw0e5hOy2I/AAAAAAAAR_w/qnNDN4vIAbY/s800/IMGP1857.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n0_L-tcq9tg/UXw0fLyhMII/AAAAAAAAR_8/hqP0V2JdWkA/s800/IMGP1855.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--U2OtIeAIKg/UXw0eg6KdWI/AAAAAAAAR_k/yw-TnVZ5CWI/s800/IMGP1856.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 27, 2013, 09:50:15 PM
That is really well-done.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 27, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
It's  APRIL. 

I think this is the earliest I've ever finished something.  Normally I just have a hundred things started. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on April 27, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Plenty of time to make another if you sell it...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 28, 2013, 12:03:46 AM
Nah, I got the damn fence thing I started and got frustrated with, so moved on to this...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 28, 2013, 04:36:35 AM
I think I'm in love.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pC9HBSx1Xiw/UXyWnBZkbQI/AAAAAAAASBg/AxZc1pPrM5I/s800/IMGP1878.jpg)

Had several new neighbors stop and chat me up on the thing while out taking pictures. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ixOqo37ysMY/UXyWldoLn0I/AAAAAAAASBE/_qg6YTRBzTQ/s800/IMGP1873.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pHc8Fdc2KYY/UXyWmZATSqI/AAAAAAAASBU/kz1dBS3DUxA/s800/IMGP1876.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n3aVJoCdskA/UXyWk8dkLdI/AAAAAAAASBA/BE_dDDje8To/s800/IMGP1870.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v_UswB4dIv8/UXyWkPH58sI/AAAAAAAASAw/ls1qwVxKu28/s800/IMGP1868.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bujelMxFkCQ/UXyWjPPOz_I/AAAAAAAASAk/XNbcxCRlUuA/s800/IMGP1864.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on April 28, 2013, 09:04:12 AM
It definitely looks better in the dark.  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on April 28, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
Um. 

Interesting offer.  Guy does custom cars.  Barghest for a custom paint job.  If I had a nice car it would probably be tempting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 01, 2013, 08:57:08 PM
Next indoor haunt I do, I am finding a use for this kind of thing. 

Tornado Simulator - Indoor Tornado (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck5mq8Ha_Cc#)

Properly lit, you could make some interesting things with those.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 04, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
http://vimeo.com/64114843# (http://vimeo.com/64114843#)


http://vimeo.com/64114843# (http://vimeo.com/64114843#)


Buster, you would appreciate...but it wont let me embed or link
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 07, 2013, 07:35:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pibge7dXYN8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pibge7dXYN8#ws)
not 'official' link to the movie I tried to link to above...not sure how long it will last on youtube. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 07, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/may/07/ray-harryhausen-dies (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/may/07/ray-harryhausen-dies)

Quote
In 1933, the 13-year-old Ray Harryhausen saw King Kong at the cinema and was hooked – not only by Kong, who was clearly not just a man in a gorilla suit, but also by the dinosaurs. He came out of the theatre "stunned and haunted. They looked absolutely lifelike … I wanted to know how it was done." It was done by using stop-motion animation: jointed models filmed one frame at a time to simulate movement. Harryhausen, who has died aged 92, was to become the prime exponent of the technique and its combination with live action. He created the special effects for fantasy films such as The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad (1958); Jason and the Argonauts (1963), with its famous army of skeletons; and Clash of the Titans (1981).

He was born in Los Angeles to Frederick and Martha Harryhausen, Americans of German ancestry. As a young boy he had an interest in prehistoric animals and created clay models. He began to experiment with a borrowed camera, working around the fact that it did not have a stop-frame mechanism, and he showed his experiments to Willis O'Brien, who had done the visual effects for King Kong. O'Brien's verdict – that Harryhausen's models did not have any character and that he should study anatomy – was a turning point in Harryhausen's approach to his craft.

He attended Los Angeles City College and continued his experiments with a new stop-frame 16mm camera. When, in 1940, George Pal, the puppeteer film-maker, fled to Hollywood from Europe, Harryhausen showed him his work and was subsequently hired to work on Pal's Puppetoon series for Paramount alongside O'Brien. Its unjointed wooden figures did not really suit either Harryhausen or O'Brien.

Harryhausen made room to begin his dream project: Evolution of the World, a history of the planet. Surviving footage and sketches show a debt to Gustave Doré and to King Kong, but the time it would take to complete, combined with the release of Fantasia (1940) – in which the Rite of Spring sequence covered much of the same ground – stopped the project. In 1942 Harryhausen enlisted in the army, was assigned to the Signal Corps and got himself drafted into Frank Capra's unit to work on propaganda films. He also contributed to the Army-Navy Screen Magazine as an assistant photographer.

Unemployed after demobilisation in 1946, he began a series of animated two-minute fairy tales using out of date 16mm Kodak stock that he had found. Tied together with a Mother Goose prologue and epilogue, the resulting short film was successfully sold to schools and libraries.

O'Brien, who was working on Mighty Joe Young (1949), then called on Harryhausen to be his assistant. The film did not do well commercially, but O'Brien won an Oscar for the special effects. Harryhausen returned to his fairy stories, using the pseudonym Jerome Wray for his photography, and then began work on The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms (1953), inspired by Ray Bradbury's short story The Fog Horn. He devised a dynamic split-screen technique which enabled him to eradicate the then expensive system of inserting miniatures or glass paintings to combine stop-motion with live action. This process was eventually named Dynamation for the marketing campaign for The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad and subsequent films.

 Ray Harryhausen poses with an enlarged model of Medusa from his 1981 film Clash of the Titans at the Myths and Legends Exhibition at the London Film Museum, 2010. Photograph: Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms had an original budget of $65,000, which spiralled to $210,000. Warner Bros struck 500 prints in "glorious sepia tone" and, on some copies, tinted the underwater scenes green. The marketing led to the film supposedly taking more than $5m worldwide.

Harryhausen made a couple more fairytales and some TV commercials, and then met the producer Charles H Schneer and began work on It Came From Beneath the Sea (1955), the start of their lengthy collaboration. In the film a giant octopus rises from the sea to destroy the San Francisco Golden Gate bridge, though because of the expense Harryhausen reduced the number of the octopus's tentacles to six. Permission to photograph the bridge was refused in case it undermined public confidence in the structure, so stock footage was used.

On The Animal World (1956), Harryhausen worked for the last time with O'Brien before returning to work with Schneer on Earth Vs the Flying Saucers (1956). There later followed further forays into space – First Men in the Moon (1964), from the novel by HG Wells, was the only time in which Harryhausen worked in wide screen and used humans wearing suits (children in insect outfits) to avoid the endless animation.

The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad was Harryhausen's first foray into colour. It involved front and rear projection, and Sinbad's swordfight with a skeleton was considered too frightening for children by the British censor.

During the pre-production of The Three Worlds of Gulliver (1959), Harry hausen and Schneer moved to the UK, where travelling matte facilities (the technique used to combine scenes separately photographed) provided by Rank were superior to those in Hollywood.

Jason and the Argonauts had a stunning variety of creatures – Talos, the man of bronze, the Harpies and the army of skeletons among them – populating the hero's mythical quest. The Valley of Gwangi (1969) – an abandoned project which O'Brien had originally worked on for RKO – was somewhat unjustly underrated. The sequence of cowboys attempting to rope a dinosaur took five months to film.

Jason and the Argonauts and Clash of the Titans were generally accepted, including by Harryhausen himself, to be his most successful pictures, but his career is littered with many other memorable creations – among them, the space monster Ymir in 20 Million Miles to Earth (1957).

Sadly, however, Harryhausen's wonderful worlds of fantasy were rarely equalled by strong scripts or actors. He was "heartsick over some of my pictures and I could kick myself when I think of how I didn't insist on more from the director or the studio". It was only on his last film, Clash of the Titans, that his creative imagination was finally matched by the castlist, which included Laurence Olivier, as a sardonic Zeus, Maggie Smith and Claire Bloom. In 1992 he received the Gordon E Sawyer Academy Award for technical achievement. As with all film-makers he had innumerable unrealised projects, in his case Baron Munchausen and Dante's Inferno, both inspired by Doré's illustrations.

A modest and charming man with a delightful sense of humour and ineffable courtesy, Harryhausen was always good company. He published his Film Fantasy Scrapbook in 1972, dedicating it to O'Brien. It also included a preface from Bradbury, whom he had met as a teenager at the Los Angeles Science Fiction League; he was best man at Bradbury's wedding.

Harryhausen laid the groundwork for many special effects techniques today and clearly influenced, among other films, Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993). His admirers include Steven Spielberg, whose special effects dinosaurs in Jurassic Park (1993) are in stark contrast to Harryhausen working alone with a small process screen, a vintage Mitchell camera, a pair of sliding matte glasses, partial miniature sets and glass paintings.

He published his autobiography, An Animated Life, in 2004. In retirement he had also returned to sculpting, and lectured and toured the world with exhibitions, culminating with one at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in Los Angeles and at the London Film Museum in 2010 to celebrate his 90th birthday, together with a special event at the National Film Theatre hosted by John Landis. In 2012 the documentary Ray Harryhausen: Special Effects Titan was released.

Once, when asked if he had a favourite among his creatures, Harryhausen replied: "It would be Medusa. But don't tell the others."

He married Diana Livingstone in 1962. She survives him, along with a daughter, Vanessa.

• Raymond Frederick Harryhausen, special effects creator and technician, born 29 June 1920; died 7 May 2013


Perhaps the greatest inspiration to my work. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 07, 2013, 10:52:06 PM
I think Sinbad and Jason are irrevocably burned into the memories and imagination of our entire generation.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 08, 2013, 03:57:31 AM
I'm hoping one of the classic channels digs up some of the more obscure ones this weekend.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 08, 2013, 05:58:29 AM
20 Million Miles to Earth  ;b; ;b; ;b;.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 08, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
Ymir is the Kraken's long lost brother, I swear.

20 Million Miles to Earth - Ymir Awakes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT8Os9dGib8#)

Perseus vs The Kraken (1981) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQpgIJUh9D4#)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 08, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
I'm used to being in creepy old buildings alone as part of my job, and the associated strange things that sometimes happen as a result, but it's been an especially strange day. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 08, 2013, 09:47:15 PM
Go on...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on May 09, 2013, 08:49:28 AM
I'm used to being in creepy old buildings alone as part of my job, and the associated strange things that sometimes happen as a result, but it's been an especially strange day.

You might have a field day in certakn parts of Europe then...  :P
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 09, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
Go on...

Electronics were going wonky yesterday. 

I have one of those little speakers you plug into your ipod, just start up broadcasting SOMETHING without anything plugged into the jack.  Nothing intelligable, just noise, but a structure to it.  I've had a megaphone do that before and managed to track it down, so I have a decent guess what caused it.

The alarm system was going all haywire. 

Strange noises outside.

Bay doors opening by themselves.

Just a strange day. 

It's the first time I've been here in a thunderstorm, so I'm blaming that for now.  They can really mess with crap if you're in "one of those" locations.  Old workplace was 'one of those', and I was nearly struck 3 times by lightning.  Might have been once, was thrown across a room.  The other 2 were close enough I could see the plasma hang in the air after the strike.  Really neat...don't want to see it again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 09, 2013, 07:00:39 PM
http://www.hauntedstudio.com/index.htm (http://www.hauntedstudio.com/index.htm)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 13, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
Gonna be one of those days...

I'm sick, forgot the ipod, there's no radio reception here...fun times.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 13, 2013, 03:00:18 PM
Planted corn...getting pumpkins.  (at least 90% sure these are pumpkins)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aqoHC6GjIwo/UZDrc-aIPRI/AAAAAAAASGk/P7Lk1Egh7eo/s800/IMG_0036.JPG)

I'm of a split mind here.  We had tried to dispose of all the seed last year, and my Uncle is planting "normal" pumpkins this year, my patch is for "specialty" ones.  I have 100+ seeds of various varieties ready to plant (and hadn't planned to for a couple weeks yet).  But, just given the odds, these are most likely just regular pumpkins, not the few luminas or Cinderellas we grew last year. 

At the same time...why look a gift horse in the mouth? 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FIoJZqhaCQc/UZDrdrHsVdI/AAAAAAAASG0/uyr9IQ4APW8/s800/IMG_0037.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 13, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
That's definitely not corn, and does look like some sort of vine gourd like pumpkin.  Any chance it's cucumber? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 13, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
Not without something tracking the seed in.  I only question as we've had tons of wind, and there's a flower that starts out looking similar which we've attempted to plant symbiotically with the pumpkins to limited success.  I'll know for sure once the second leaves hit/these get their shape. 

It's also QUITE early for pumpkins.  The ground SHOULD be too cold for them to germinate. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 03:27:52 PM
Going to be an interesting day...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
Program manager is a moron. 

Correction.  The temporary program manager I've been saddled with for the next 6 months is a moron. 


It's not a hard concept:  Don't agree to things we're not being paid to do. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 05:10:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFsNSoDZK8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFsNSoDZK8#ws)

Confession...I'm something of a Lone Ranger nerd. 

Not sure how I feel about Depp as Tonto.  (nifty makeup/costume though)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 14, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
It is an odd casting choice, but the Depp's a trooper - if the picture's not a disaster, he can probably pull it off.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on May 14, 2013, 06:16:55 PM
You've got to give 'm that: he has a certain style. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
Your tax dollars hard at work, what a waste.  Anyway, one minor victory today, gotta spend the rest of the week working on the next...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
Any guesses why this is causing a ruckus on the Halloween Forum? 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DWo_Q2ISTrQ/UZJLmByamTI/AAAAAAAASHs/O7AlCQdOF-8/s800/B6.jpg)

Go ahead, take a guess. 

Most reported pic in the history of the site, decent size group banding to get it deleted.  If ownership does, I'm resigning as mod. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on May 14, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
The anti-fishing nets lobby taking a stand?  ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 14, 2013, 10:02:35 PM
;lol

Then we'd be getting all kinds of complaints about spirit halloween's banner ads which feature similar outfits on a regular basis. 


"Problem" is, that's a guy who is...exploring. 

Not an issue I expected from that particular group of people, honestly.  I was the first staff member awake this morning, so the first to deal with it, and having a few friends physically beaten for exploring, I'm a little touchy on the subject even if I don't feel any urge to explore. 

Been smacking disparaging remarks all day with a banning and a number of warnings (put a delay on the thread to give me a chance to view before they posted publicly...sneaky, I know, but allows us to do it surreptitiously to the guy in question).  Fortunately, it's the vocal minority causing a problem and it's the offseason.  We "only" have a few hundred registered people on at a time right now. 

Debate on the mod forum is more how to handle the troublemakers at the moment.  As far as we're concerned there's nothing there that doesn't fit with our 'PG13' standards. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 14, 2013, 10:25:04 PM
Don't they know that the appropriate response is jokes about the fellow's nice bottom?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 15, 2013, 04:27:19 AM
The Cat With Hands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PR9NZlAB4#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 15, 2013, 04:31:00 AM
When the hell did I join "birdforum" and why are they spamming me with crap all the sudden? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 15, 2013, 04:36:15 AM
Checked over there, standard password/username combo of mine, checked my single post.  Guess I was looking for info on why the magpies were eating my corpses and if there was any ways to prevent....

Thread has 535 views, 0 replies.  Guess I weird out the bird people.  Not so much as a welcome to the forum.   ;uno

We figured it out on the Halloween forum anyway.  Corvids are attracted to linseed oil, and I had stained those with a brand of wood stain that used it as a base (not my normal brand). 

Now I know. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 15, 2013, 04:38:40 AM
So...they is running a photo contest, eh? 

Bet I could get a good shot of the magpies on the Barghest.  (they attempted to make a nest in it already, so I took it in)

Yeah, there's another 0 chance at winning photo contest for me. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 15, 2013, 04:46:10 AM
The Cat With Hands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PR9NZlAB4#ws)
My dog with hands is my nightmare - no stopping her if she could work doorknobs.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 15, 2013, 02:25:52 PM
City trying to remove the irrigation ditch again. 

I have 3 means of watering here.  Cullinary, Secondary (pressurized system) and the Irrigation ditch, which comes out of a  natural spring up the hill.  I own a full share of the water rights on the ditch, and while I've never used it, and sold the water to some farmers down the line each year, I like to have it there in case of years like this, where there is already restrictions in place on the secondary water.  90% of the home owners have sold theirs back to the city, just me and a couple farmer holdouts.

Among the reasoning was "breeding ground for harmful insects".  Town meeting in a couple days, I think I'm going to have to dispute that particular point.  I'm sure they're referring to mosquitos that can carry west nile virus here.  Problem is, the ditch is providing the only habitat for the natural predators of said mosquitos. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 16, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Corn finally sprouting.  But, so far not impressed with this seed.  Less than 50% showing so far. Typically in a corn seed you expect near 80%. 

Decided to stick to the plan, though.  Will be killing all those volunteers along with the weeds this weekend.  Also time to plant the beans. 

Planted the mini pumpkin blend into the starter pots, they arent going in the three sisters bed, so doesn't matter if I start them early. 

Got some sprinkler work to do yet, as well.   :-\
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 16, 2013, 07:12:34 PM
Jobsite today. 

1 Semi truck, 3 engineers in big diesel pickups, 2 government pickups rounded out the rest of the crew.  Me driving up in my Tercel. 

Engineers get stopped at the gate.  Should know by now that you need hardhats and steel toes on the jobsite, so we have to wait for them to get all checked in with gear. 

Pull up to the facility, guy comes up to the semi driver. 
"Forklift is dead, we need to jump it" 

How you are driving a semi without jumper cables is beyond me.  NO ONE ELSE HAD ANY EITHER.  So, I pull mine out, and they get that going. 

Then the trailer has a flat.  Oh, no one has the tools for that either, so I pull out the 2 different stars from my trunk, sure enough, one of them has a head that'll work.  (One metric, one standard, my first car needed both)

Screwdrivers, crow bars, no one else had ANYTHING in their vehicle. 

We get done, foreman on site:  "Wouldn't have pegged the guy in the Toyota as the only one ready to work today." 

How do you not have the basic stuff in your vehicle?  Especially if you're driving a big truck?  Or am I just that old fashioned?  The car breaks down, I'm still more likely to have the broken part in my hand at the side of the road and looking for a ride to the parts store rather than calling for a tow.  My truck, there's a decent chance there's a spare part behind the seat already.  (starter, alternator, and fuel pump kept on hand as they like to keep stranding me)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 16, 2013, 11:15:20 PM
City trying to remove the irrigation ditch again. 



Among the reasoning was "breeding ground for harmful insects".  Town meeting in a couple days, I think I'm going to have to dispute that particular point.  I'm sure they're referring to mosquitos that can carry west nile virus here.  Problem is, the ditch is providing the only habitat for the natural predators of said mosquitos.

I'd enjoy that meeting. The Council isn't going to sound too knowledgeable talking insects with a guy who knows them by their proper names.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 22, 2013, 08:27:06 PM


I'd enjoy that meeting. The Council isn't going to sound too knowledgeable talking insects with a guy who knows them by their proper names.

It wasn't pretty.  One of the baffoons had Dragonflies, Damselflies, and crane flies (which they thought were mosquitoes) pegged as harmful insects.

Closing this down will eliminate predators, not mosquitoes.  And bees.  Don't forget the bee habitat.  You know, since they're all dying and all.  (I only feel a little dirty for playing that card, ccd doesn't impact the species in question)

Subject was tabled for a later date as they now have 2 different University studies in hand on the beneficial insects that arise from such habitats that I may or may not have had a hand it writing.   ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 22, 2013, 08:39:11 PM
Anyhow.  Just spent 4 hours compiling another huge bug report for the biggest waste of tax $ I know of.  Idiot program.  Would love to know how this company got sole source when they can't even make the program run.  They've offered me a job a couple times as I usually know more about their program than they do.  This is another case where they have no idea what's going on and I'm going to have to show them again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on May 22, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
I confess I had no idea what a crane fly was.  I had to google-wiki them.

Where I come from originally, they are known as May flies, and are probably the favorite food of wild trout, when they "hatch" from the pupae and try to fly and mate. 


So you may or may not have had a hand in writing them. :D


Are there insects that you particularly don't like?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 22, 2013, 10:38:39 PM
Um...Mayfly:

Tend to hatch all at once, leading to veritable swarms, and fish gorging.  Typically 2 broods per year.   

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M20YZtV1Yis/UZ04ECQ_qGI/AAAAAAAASKA/uLjC9G7L8Rg/s800/mayfly_side.jpg)

Crane Fly:

Typically seen in pairs/small groups.  Hatch throughout the year in low numbers.  Resemble a mosquito...a REALLY BIG mosquito....that mated with a daddy long legs...Harmless, eat rotting plant material near ponds/marsh.       

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yfFibtHfgCI/UZ04Ds2Os_I/AAAAAAAASJ4/4qAjnnK2oqY/s800/crane-fly.jpg)




I'm not fond of most the pests.  I just believe that your standard practice of chemical warfare does more harm than good.  Virtually all your predators recover from such methods at a much slower rate than the pests. 

My war against the squash bugs last year was not pretty.  Tachinid flies are not commercially available and the native ladybugs aren't fond of squash bugs.  Had to deal with the first brood by hand, inspecting and squashing eggs.  Rounded up and released a few hundred tachinid flies (from the farmer I typically sell the water to, he was going to spray, so I rounded up the flies first) to deal with the second brood.  There's a certain satisfaction with watching the fly crawl it's way out of the squash bug Alien style. 



And silverfish.  they creep me out for no logical reason. 

Fortunately, we're typically too dry for them here. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 23, 2013, 05:49:12 AM
Extended forecast is for a very mild June.  Barely cracking the 80s by mid June.  This could be either great news or terrible news, depending on whether I can get the pumpkin seeds to sprout.  It might be too cool for direct sowing to be effective, but it's fantastic weather for established plants, specifically for fertilization.  Means my Uncle's patch should do quite well this year.  Mine will be more up in the air till July. 

Not sure I have the patience for this 3 sisters thing next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 24, 2013, 07:15:14 PM
I aint no engineer. 

I need to amend that...my first design has gone into production, beating several actual engineer designs in the testing.   

I'm still more mechanic than engineer though.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on May 25, 2013, 10:13:44 AM
Who needs the other kind most? engineers or mechanics? My money's on the former. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 27, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
So, finally got into the mummy exhibit:


The crux of the problem revolved around this display ALSO having some pieces on loan in addition to the mummies of the world exhibit.  I had to get permissions from all parties involved to get pics, but in getting those permissions is that I won't go publishing the photos. 

So, I got pics, for my research. 

hEt commenting on the first full body mummies we come into: 

"That could be Trevor sitting there." 

Indeed, things I had thought were mistakes/failures with Trevor were actually dead on.  My hands/feet need some work, however.  Especially the feet.   

Science wise, there was nothing to learn for me, but hEt didn't know some of the things. 

Interesting dichotomy there.  The mummies of the world exhibit presented it's items as-is.  No alterations.  However, one of the families loaning pieces either re-created clothes, or presented their mummies with, um, modesty cloths.  I found it a little silly, but what do you do? 

Whilst down in Salt Lake, we visited the Mormon paradise mall known as City Creek. 

http://www.shopcitycreekcenter.com/ (http://www.shopcitycreekcenter.com/)

$1.5 Billion the church spent.  The city using eminent domain to obtain the land to sell to the church.  All to build a shopping mall with church money that is somehow still tax free. 

WTF?  How the HELL is this still a charity?  The Church now owns several blocks surrounding the SLC Temple, and this trend will probably continue. 

Ostensibly, this mall was built to increase business and revitalize downtown SLC, but they built a nice convenient bridge to carry customers over the couple of stores they were unable to purchase, thus keeping foot traffic from non-church property. 

As I was attempting to get to one of these stores, they've made that rather inconvenient as a result. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 05:13:09 AM
Alright, I have a problem now.   


I'm bored.  The Barghest is done, and the animated fence is mostly tedious work now.  I need a project, any suggestions you'd like to see my styling applied to? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on May 30, 2013, 08:44:03 AM
Horror submarine?  ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
Not a terrible idea, actually, but then I'd have to haul it up to bear lake and scare people. 

http://animal.discovery.com/tv-shows/lost-tapes/creatures/bear-lake-monster.htm (http://animal.discovery.com/tv-shows/lost-tapes/creatures/bear-lake-monster.htm)

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to pull a prank that I need to check the legality of...

We have a portion of the bonneville shoreline trail relatively close.  http://www.bonnevilleshorelinetrail.org/pleasantviewtoi84/pleasantviewtoi84.html#i84 (http://www.bonnevilleshorelinetrail.org/pleasantviewtoi84/pleasantviewtoi84.html#i84)

Specifically the I84 trailhead portion.  There's a 2 mile stretch that climbs 300' that is very rarely utilized.  Heavily populated by wildlife, it passes 3...ponds/marshes.  These things look like they come right out of a horror movie.  In fact, in my mind, that's where all the Chimera have come from.  In 2011, we even attempted to get Chimera one back into the first pond for a photo shoot, but some late season flooding prevented it, he's just too big, awkward, and heavy and the 4 wheelers just weren't going to get through. 

Since then, I've wanted to build a smaller creature, and have him 'peaking' out from behind a tree on the far side of that pond/marsh.  It would be a bear to get to, and I'm not sure if it's legal to leave behind such a thing.   

See where random joke statements take me? 

Pond 3 is private property, I might have better luck convincing the owner to allow me to put it up, but it's the most 'clean' of the 3 ponds, thus the least desirable to put a monster. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 04:52:17 PM
Sleepy Hollow series upcoming on Fox? 

Just saw the trailer...

My god is that going to suck horribly. 

As an unabashed headless horseman fan, I'm going to have to watch. 

That is the one thing I REALLY want from my childhood that's not to be found.  Early 70's Biestle company Halloween cutouts.  They had a headless horseman that always terrified me.  Him silouhetted up against the moon.  You can find copies of most of their designs still for sale, but not the horseman. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 30, 2013, 07:14:18 PM
I just got back from a root canal, and Uno, I got bad news - when he finished and all the crap was out of my mouth, I said "Congratulations; that was boring."  Most painless root canal evah.

Still - any inspiration for a project on a dental theme, maybe?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 30, 2013, 07:16:07 PM
Sick-ass German artist posing as an anatomist and using Gramma's body for a show?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 08:27:51 PM
I've never understood the dentist phobia.  I posted the one video a little while back, and have witnessed such a theme utilized a couple times, but it really doesn't speak to me much. 

Then, I've had relatively few dental problems.  Wisdom teeth, they put me out, and despite coming out of the drugs early, I was only awake long enough for them to put me back under (both times I've been put under I come out before the operation was done).  Other than that, I had bucket teeth filled as a precaution, just bad taste, nothing scary, and had to have my canine's filed, too young to really know much more about that one/why. 

My old dentist was superb, and the guy he chose after he retired is a fan and saves me denture samples for me to use. 

No, you want scary, it's the optometrist.  Shoving things into your eyes, that's just wrong. 

But anyway, it would be like clowns for me.  Not something I would do for myself, but if you ask me to build you a dentist based room, I've studied it enough to do so. 

The ones you typically see take it the wrong direction, IMO.  They have the room and doctor covered in blood wielding rusty old equipment.  This makes it just another room, same old crap.   

No, to do a dentist you need it PRISTINE.  Including that medical cleanser SMELL.  WHITE walls/floors/ceiling, dentist chair.  If this is a hands on, you would want to strap someone in, if it's hands off, you want an actor in there, strapped down, especially the head. 

Key selling points are going to be the chair, xrays on the walls, including lighted boards, medical models, and possibly jars of teeth, roots and all, in a preserved liquid.  Bright spotlights should be pointed to shine off the nice metal tooling.  Script wise, this would be an excellent room to have a spitter (compressed air and water mist blows on patrons) to correspond with the surgeon pulling out something.  You want his back to the audience, yank a piece out, spit the crowd, and have the doctor turn to reveal him to be something inhuman. 

Maybe too much twilight zone "eye of the Beholder" influence there...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 30, 2013, 08:44:46 PM
Very good thought about the smell.

I suppose drawing up some detailed plans for someone else to use isn't enough of a project?  You've definitely outlined something effective.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 09:59:48 PM
smell is one of the things that is generally lacking in most haunts. 

The problem is there is not the someone else.  Kinda pointless to design something for a theoretical space. 

Could theoretically push up the guardian from next year to THIS year.  But, that's a BIG project and I'd probably have to rush it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 30, 2013, 10:02:28 PM
Could do the Ghost of Christmas Future already.  Submitted the idea for approval (because stupid christmas charities have to approve things since someone dared to make a tree out of budweiser cans and kids saw, the horror) and haven't heard back, but I'm sure I could use and/or sell it separately if it's nixed. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 30, 2013, 10:31:34 PM
Olmec head - full-scale...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 31, 2013, 12:30:53 AM
The way to go about that would be subtractive sculpture.  Not my preferred method. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 31, 2013, 01:55:45 AM
Eh.  Square(ish) frame, chicken wire, burlap, monster mud - wadded up anything to fill out the brow, nose, and lips - more burlap and monster mud.  Alternately, round off styrofoam panels and carve one to be the face.  The rest of the head is easy, and you can do some cool things with patterns on the helmet.  The Olmecs had to make the facial features more or less fit the round shape; I've done one in miniature, as you probably recall, and it's not all that tough to get the style.  I would place it where the crowd wouldn't be tempted to poke at it to see how hefty/substantial it is.

The beauty part?  You could hide a lot of stuff inside, from fog machines to a tiny control room...

Much could be done with a whole Mesoamerican theme, and you've certainly been doing the research forever.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 31, 2013, 06:09:47 AM
Yes, Temple of the Spider Woman WILL rise from the ashes.  I'm just not sure I'm ready just yet.  Still a little stung that I lost what was essentially 5 years work towards that when the shed collapsed.  What was salvaged from that wreckage is on display in an SLC haunt, including the Steve mummies. 

I'll probably change the stele design to be similar to Trevor instead of straight paper mache thiI s time.  Would hold up much better to weather.  I think of them every time I go in the shed, as the firebowls are still there. 

The 'them' prototype is still in there too.  It is terribad in it's present form, don't think I've ever even fully revealed it, and that's part of the reason for the fence redesign this year, testing/learning for 'them'.  I've already figured out most the bugs and have much lighter construction methods, which would make it potentially doable now.  There's a reason I did a mass purchase of 20 motors this year...

We ran a 5 year course before the theme switch last time, and that's a reasonable timeframe, this being year 3, and year 4 already mostly planned.  Besides I still have a thing or two to say on this whole "Harvest decorating is just boring" sentiment. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 31, 2013, 06:17:02 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aPEhUVN9oeM/S8-zw5nOmbI/AAAAAAAAGHs/U_2tYrzmdy0/s800/IMG_5065.JPG)

Only pic of the Them prototype.  Right before the catastrophe.  In fact, I picked this up just as the doomstorm was rolling in.  Just the mechanics being tested. SORT of worked.  I don't normally use stretchy webs either, and wouldn't for the real thing. Idea was for several to be writhing against the webs.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on May 31, 2013, 03:58:00 PM
W.T.F.

http://www.scarfolk.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://www.scarfolk.blogspot.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 01, 2013, 04:39:19 AM
Plan 9 from outer space is on the local bad movie Friday program. 

 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 01, 2013, 04:49:26 AM
Awesome?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 01, 2013, 04:52:55 AM
Love the bad movie night shows.  Might even tune in for the podcast following this one. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 01, 2013, 04:54:34 AM
http://www.uen.org/tv/whatson/details.php?id=16843 (http://www.uen.org/tv/whatson/details.php?id=16843)

Mostly just crap in June.  July looks good though. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 01, 2013, 05:05:30 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xTe6sLSoNzg/SYujfp7ZITI/AAAAAAAACrI/ZtQtPX0pcEY/s800/IMGP1919.JPG)

(gift from them4 years ago)  I've been advertising the crappy movie night for some time. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 04, 2013, 12:47:38 PM
So, been struggling with pumpkins. 

For the most part I've NEVER been able to get pumpkins to start from seed reliably.  (Exception being dumping literally THOUSANDS of seed into the garden in the fall and letting the resultant volunteers live)

So, this year I was going to work that out.  Bought a window box seed starter kit. 

Nothin' 

I figured it gets too hot in the window here, so I went and got some grow lights, put the seeds in the little pots, figuring the grow lights control the heat better.   I got 4 out of 50 seeds. 

I've since moved on to several other methods, including scoring the seeds, soaking them overnight before planting, and the plastic baggie with a paper towel.

The Paper Towel method swiftly resulted in near 100% sprouting the little roots in 2 days!  The question is whether they survive being transferred into the little pots. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 04, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
Of all plants, I didn't expect pumpkins having difficulties sprouting.  ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
My family got that with watermelons - we grew a few over the years, but only volunteers from throwing rinds downhill into the garden.  Nothing we planted ever amounted to anything.  Didn't have that problem with squash, cucumbers or pumpkins, but couldn't grow watermelon on purpose.  -Which was a pity, because Gramma liked watermelon so much that I still think of happy hot summer afternoons and Gramma sometimes when I eat some.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 04, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Of all plants, I didn't expect pumpkins having difficulties sprouting.  ;lol

Guess I should post the caveat:

I'm attempting to germinate unusual varieties. 

2 species are traditional FRENCH pumpkins.  I got the one to work (sorta, we're clearly too hot for it some times, so it would get stressed) last year by buying a couple seedlings, so I wanted to try them in the three sisters planting arrangement as the corn would help keep their roots cool.  The other french variety is not grown around here at all, but will make marvelously unique jacks if it works.

The mini pumpkins are technically gourds.  (0% germination on them this year)

Lumina's are notoriously difficult.  Inbred white pumpkins, they are expensive seeds with low germination rates to begin with.  I've been tempted to grow ONLY them and sell the seeds as we had TERRIFFIC luck growing them last year (from seedlings).  4 plants yielded 13 pumpkins. 

The Sugar pumpkins, I just barely planted, so don't know if they would have given me trouble or not. 

All our volunteers are most likely the family heirloom pumpkins (or would be hybrid who-knows-whats if they come from my pumpkins last year).  Our own stock seeds going back at least 50 years, grow great locally.  My uncle plants those for me, and they make up at least 80% of what we use on Halloween.  I focus on the oddities to bring a variety. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 04, 2013, 05:42:40 PM
I miss watermelon terribly. 


(alergic to melons.  DEATHLY alergic.  Didn't used to be.  Carving one can make me swell up.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 06:42:03 PM
Alright, I have a problem now.   


I'm bored.  The Barghest is done, and the animated fence is mostly tedious work now.  I need a project, any suggestions you'd like to see my styling applied to? 
Have you given any more thought to a partially exposed/buried skeleton thing, as I believe you mentioned when they found Richard III?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 04, 2013, 06:52:37 PM
I'd want to do the whole site.  There was a destination truth episode where they visited a ghost town's cemetery, and virtually all the graves were exposed.  That would make a GREAT addition to a more traditional haunted experience...not my yard. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
[shrugs] One would still be pretty cool, and right up your alley.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 06:55:48 PM
Thought you'd enjoy this...

Stick Insect Hatching (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiV-DsfoJwA#ws)

Act Wild for Lord Howe Island Stick Insects (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg3dcYJ2oI4#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
Uno, why did I think of you?

Quote
Report: EPA Staffers Hid Offices, Dodged Security Cameras
By Amy Harder | National Journal – 8 hrs ago..

 
Employees at an Environmental Protection Agency warehouse in Landover, Md., worked out in a makeshift gym while conditions inside the facility “were rotting and becoming potentially hazardous,” according to an EPA inspector general report issued on Monday.

“Deplorable conditions existed in the warehouse,” the report by Inspector General Arthur Elkins Jr. states. “Door jambs were corroded; dirt, dust and vermin feces were pervasive; and several items were rotting and potentially hazardous.”

The report found that the 70,000-square-foot warehouse—one of EPA’s largest—was storing large amounts of expensive, unused equipment, ranging from computers to pianos. It also found numerous security and safety issues.

“Personally identifiable information and agency sensitive files—such as passports and legal files—were located in unsecured open boxes throughout the warehouse,” the report states. “There was a locked office inside the facility for which we could not determine a purpose.”

Employees had created hideaways arranged to be out of the sight of security cameras, the report said. “The warehouse contained multiple unauthorized and hidden personal spaces created by and for the workers that included televisions, refrigerators, radios, microwaves, chairs and couches,” the IG report said. “These spaces contained personal items, including photos, pin ups, calendars, clothing, books, magazines and videos.”

They also created a makeshift gym spanning an area larger than 30 feet by 45 feet. While exercising, employees apparently listened to music and used EPA steno pads to record workouts, according to the report.

“These conditions raise questions about time charges made by warehouse employees under the contract,” the report states. No explanation was offered for the pianos, of which there were three, according to photos released as part of the report.

EPA leases the warehouse for $750,000 a year under a contract that began in 2007.

“Our initial research at EPA’s Landover warehouse raised significant concerns with the lack of agency oversight of personal property and warehouses space at the facility,” Elkins said in a May 31 memorandum to Craig Hooks, assistant administrator for EPA’s Office of Administration and Resources Management.

The report also includes a five-page letter to Elkins dated May 23 by acting Administrator Bob Perciasepe detailing the action EPA has already taken in the wake of two briefings Perciasepe has had on May 15 and 16 on this matter.

“The EPA is committed to addressing the previous conditions at the warehouse and implementing institutional protections to ensure those conditions do not recur at this facility or any other used by the agency,” Perciasepe said in the letter.

According to Perciasepe’s letter, EPA officials took immediate action on May 17 by visiting the facility and escorting off the premises the employees and issued a stop-work order to Apex Logistics, the company EPA had contracted for the warehouse employment. This was the only contract EPA had with Apex, according to the letter. EPA officials continued its response to the situation throughout the weekend of May 18-19 and into the next week. Perciasepe conducted a meeting on May 21 where he directed officials to evaluate conditions at all warehouses and storage facilities used by EPA.
http://news.yahoo.com/report-epa-staffers-hid-offices-dodged-security-cameras-123518166.html (http://news.yahoo.com/report-epa-staffers-hid-offices-dodged-security-cameras-123518166.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 05, 2013, 01:49:53 AM
Quote
“Deplorable conditions existed in the warehouse,” the report by Inspector General Arthur Elkins Jr. states. “Door jambs were corroded; dirt, dust and vermin feces were pervasive; and several items were rotting and potentially hazardous.”

I can sympathize.  Been to a few of those. 

Though, why you want to use such a location to exercise boggles the mind. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 05, 2013, 02:04:27 AM
Because where they worked at boring, unsupervised jobs had plenty of space to do so?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 05, 2013, 02:42:38 AM
But, you really want to be breathing in more of that than needed? 


Anywho, there may be a good reason the one kind of pumpkins aren't grown here.  The one sprout of it I had and transferred...I've never seen anything like it...almost like the leaves sunburned. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 05, 2013, 05:22:41 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23385479/nuke-missile-crews-cite-morale-sapping-pressures?source=rss (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23385479/nuke-missile-crews-cite-morale-sapping-pressures?source=rss)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 05, 2013, 05:51:16 PM
Shoot 'm all!
(The missiles I mean...)  :P
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 05, 2013, 07:59:42 PM
Go on...

Electronics were going wonky yesterday. 

I have one of those little speakers you plug into your ipod, just start up broadcasting SOMETHING without anything plugged into the jack.  Nothing intelligable, just noise, but a structure to it.  I've had a megaphone do that before and managed to track it down, so I have a decent guess what caused it.

The alarm system was going all haywire. 

Strange noises outside.

Bay doors opening by themselves.

Just a strange day. 

It's the first time I've been here in a thunderstorm, so I'm blaming that for now.  They can really mess with crap if you're in "one of those" locations.  Old workplace was 'one of those', and I was nearly struck 3 times by lightning.  Might have been once, was thrown across a room.  The other 2 were close enough I could see the plasma hang in the air after the strike.  Really neat...don't want to see it again.


Ok, I can rule out thunderstorm.  We're going all wacky again today and clear skies.   

Exactly 4 weeks since the last time.  Coincidence? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 06, 2013, 04:44:08 AM
Pumpkin update.

The Musquee de Provence (the not grown here french pumpkins) seed transplants are coming along quite well.  2 sprouts and a bunch more that will break through tonight/tomorrow.  The garden one seems to be shaking off the burnt leaves...I'm guessing it didn't like the fertilizer I dumped on at transplanting. 

The Sugar Pumpkins are sprouting all over.  (no surprise, this is a more 'normal' variety)

The Rouge vif D'etempes (sp) aka Cinderella pumpkins and the Lumina pumpkins are being stubborn. 

One more Cinderella seed from the second batch has sprouted, non of the transplanted towel seeds.    But, I already have 3 transplanted outside (which equals the total planted last year), so not too critical anymore.   

Nada from the Luminas so far.  If the Luminas don't sprout by the weekend, I just might go buy a couple from the nursery. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 06, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
So, um...


Side project. 

20 years ago I was working with a dual lens reflex camera and doing studio portraits.  Naturally, mom thought this meant I should take her picture for a potential publication (it's a contest, and she knows she's a finalist, but winners won't be announced till end of the month).  But, wouldn't listen to me on when or where I wanted to shoot.  "My schedule is more important than lighting"

I have my pentax with high quality lenses, but it is OLD and not really built for portrait work.  It's slow, only can hold 2 pics in the buffer, and resolution is not the best, plus I have to shoot in full manual with my 60 year old lenses. 

She has a Nikkon with kit lenses I would only know the basics of operation.  My brother has a Sony A5 with kit lenses, we have the same camera at work, and it's a good camera for more general use.  In fact, I nearly bought one, but got to preview my brothers in a low light environment to discover it sucks hardcore in that application. 

Naturally I stuck with my camera...but also took the 60 year old FILM camera. 

Shot in raw, I haven't photoshopped more than a couple into viewable format, going to take a while. 

(Had to DRAG her to this spot, only decent lighting in the location she chose)

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The too-harsh lighting most the rest of the places hold:
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Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 06, 2013, 02:26:05 PM
Sugar pumpkins.

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Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 07, 2013, 04:24:18 AM
Pumpkin update:

Most the Musquee pumpkins have sprouted, virtually all the sugar pumpkins in the paper towel test, and a couple from the soak for an hour test.  2 new Cinderellas.  First 2 Luminas from the paper towel test. 

It's become quite evident the paper towel in a ziploc is the way to do this next year.

Why all the stressing:

I leave for business travel on Sunday.  Pumpkins take 100-120 days to mature from planting, we're presently 147 to Halloween.  Be down to 130ish by the time I get back from travel, it's kind of now or never. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 07, 2013, 06:34:02 PM
So, 30 plants in the ground.  Maybe a couple more tomorrow. 

This should net about 60 pumpkins.  There's at least 20 more pots that haven't sprouted, maybe by the time I get back. 

We have a TON of unused space in the garden.  I'll fill it up with some special maize a little later this year, but it's nice to know I should be able to fill my quota of 100 pumpkins on my own in the future if needed.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 08, 2013, 05:08:26 AM
Going to be a tough weekend. 

I joined the local haunters club mostly because it's a great place to sell off my stuff and to get in on group buys.  It's their big party this weekend. 
http://www.rockymountainhaunters.com/2013_RockyMountainHaunter_GatheringSchedule.pdf (http://www.rockymountainhaunters.com/2013_RockyMountainHaunter_GatheringSchedule.pdf)

They all get together and hold classes on how to do this or that.  My email and facebook is flooded with pics and messages back and forth...and I just can't get over the endless stream of cliche rolling by. 

There's a reason I don't go to these things, there's nothing there for me unless I felt like showing off the Barghest.  It's still hard to be reminded just how much I'm an outsider even among other haunters. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 10, 2013, 04:21:39 AM
Reporting in safe from Flagstaff in case anyone was curious. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 10, 2013, 04:46:37 AM
I almost didn't make it to Flagstaff once...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 10, 2013, 04:48:54 AM
Had some real jerks on the road today, that's for sure. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 10, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
Something I didn't expect about the drive:

About 20 minutes north of Panguitch (a tiny Utah town who's storefronts could be used for a 1900 era piece set), there were a couple of Buckys (medical grade skeletons that had a flaw in the mold and are sold on the cheap to us wierdos) on top of rusted old tractors. 

Now, this struck me as hilarious, of course, especially as I'm kind of eyeing some land 20 minutes south of Panguitch specifically to build a sculpture garden.  The people there are old fashioned and have a differing sense of humor, and it's not uncommon for you to see "skeletons" decorating, but they are usually cobbled together from various animal bones into a roughly humanoid shape.  Someone, however, went to the expense of getting Buckys, and I can appreciate that.  I couldn't stop where I was at, but will try to get pics on the way home. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 10, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
AH, found some pics. 

http://lifeontheopenroad.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-fun-around-panguitch.html (http://lifeontheopenroad.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-fun-around-panguitch.html)

Though, she's wrong, that's not a skeleton under the front tire, that's The Zombie of Montclaire Moor.  (and it's probably sad I know that on sight...)

http://www.designtoscano.com/product/code/DB383020.do?code=PDINCLUDE&code=DTPLAS12 (http://www.designtoscano.com/product/code/DB383020.do?code=PDINCLUDE&code=DTPLAS12)

All together, we're looking at $500 in skeletons/zombie. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 10, 2013, 07:42:52 PM
Reporting in safe from Flagstaff in case anyone was curious.

Say hello to the observatory from me.  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 12, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
Been scheming up new designs on my trip here. 

There's been one that's been in the back of my head for a while now (2, maybe 3 years, much like the Barghest), and I think I finally know how to make it come to fruition.  If it works, it, nay, they well could become iconic, another "that's an 'dOx build" thing.  (interesting aside, gaming communities have always shortened my name to "Uno", Halloween communities to 'dOx...don't know what that really says...guess they are more 'formal' or "last name" basis?)  Also ready to work the accursed fence some more.  Been in a rut on that for some time. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 12, 2013, 01:22:07 PM
I may just need to sculpt another skull from scratch...

Minor flaws in my last one kinda annoy me.  Was going to just use it, but what the hell? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 12, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
Speaking of the decrepit old buildings I get to work in...

Most surreal moment today, someone scribbled their last will and testament on the wall of the building.  Word is they got lost in a snow storm, were freezing, and thought they were going to die, but had triggered the alarm, just took the guards a few to get back to the building. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 14, 2013, 03:01:40 AM
Heading back early in the morning, just packing and getting ready for bed.

See if the kids killed all my pumpkins or not...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 14, 2013, 03:13:53 AM
Better than the other way around.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 17, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Well, the kids kept everything watered...but they also didn't do any of the weeding they were supposed to. 

The Musquee variety is EXPLODING.  Very excited that it's doing well in our heat.  Cinderellas are struggling again this year where exposed.  The corn-shaded ones seem to be doing well.  Both the sugars and luminas are going well as expected, but are a week+ behind the musquee/cinderellas. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 17, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
Planting my maize at some point this week.  (yes, maize, not corn)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 19, 2013, 01:22:05 AM
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Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 19, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
Hosted something of an impromptu class last night. 

The guy who keeps buying my stuff lives over by my son's school.  Dropping my boy off for football camp Monday, he flagged me down, and needed some help with the cauldron creep he's building.  (cliche do-it-yourself build, widely known plans.)  So, we get it working, and he was fussed over lighting it.  At least he knows how important that is.

So, offered to meet him last night after dark to go over it.  He invited a few dozen folks from that local haunt group...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 19, 2013, 03:05:30 PM
So, to recap, as I left it a week and a half ago:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gADZpSAamn4/UbXPRTou0hI/AAAAAAAASOw/j01nbWac7Ek/s800/IMG_0051.JPG)

So, here's what I come home to.  (started weeding some, as evidenced by all the pulled weeds on the left here, kids watered but didn't weed.)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RZF2KPQ2VwA/UcG1BmAIKYI/AAAAAAAASTQ/iuM2PwK54Is/s800/IMG_0078.JPG)

Musquee variety thriving. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6cLQDmpUZjA/UcG1B3z4bJI/AAAAAAAASTU/ny_VEx1nMxU/s800/IMG_0075.JPG)

Cinderella's slacking behind.  (they did this last year too)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cthWhHBTiDo/UcG1AGuqP6I/AAAAAAAASS4/rC4nXnvEJTQ/s800/IMG_0076.JPG)

Luminas and Sugar pumpkins in corn batch 2.  (can't tell them apart at the moment.) 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jwWQt4qd1WA/UcG0_Q1pSaI/AAAAAAAASSo/4kiW85SB3p4/s800/IMG_0074.JPG)

A dozen more sprouts awaited me in the starter kit when I returned as well.  A couple of the direct sown mini pumpkin jubilee mix finally sprouted as well. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ycfwo7mPKUE/UcG1ApfMd1I/AAAAAAAASS8/FXTL92ah5k4/s800/IMG_0072.JPG)

I've made several mistakes in my attempt at the 3 sisters garden this year.  Nothing to do but learn and apply it to next year. 

1:  It's not designed for sweet corn.  I knew that going in, attempting to adapt it AS I DID was a mistake.  The whole planting sweet corn every 2 weeks to keep you in corn, and having to wait to plant pumpkins after each set of corn is just too problematic. 

2:  Idiot...I should have made many shorter rows of corn running the other direction instead of fewer long rows.  Would have allowed easier access later on. 

3: The beans...are not working out well.  I'm going to replace them with fish emulsion fertilizer. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 20, 2013, 12:39:51 PM


I'd enjoy that meeting. The Council isn't going to sound too knowledgeable talking insects with a guy who knows them by their proper names.

It wasn't pretty.  One of the baffoons had Dragonflies, Damselflies, and crane flies (which they thought were mosquitoes) pegged as harmful insects.

Closing this down will eliminate predators, not mosquitoes.  And bees.  Don't forget the bee habitat.  You know, since they're all dying and all.  (I only feel a little dirty for playing that card, ccd doesn't impact the species in question)

Subject was tabled for a later date as they now have 2 different University studies in hand on the beneficial insects that arise from such habitats that I may or may not have had a hand it writing.   ;)

UPDATE TIME. 

While the council had tabled the issue, I took to edumicating neighbors, and convinced many to apply for new water rights (which go through a different department) as THE WORST DROUGHT EVAR! (news term) is going to crush us ALL!!!! 

So, the next town meeting saw the council with a waterway with more than just a couple old standby's with a stake in it. 

However, the drama is not yet over.  The city has imposed water restrictions on our secondary water, under threat of  shutting down your secondary water.  I decided early we would just not use our secondary this year, and just flipped the valve so our irrigation pump ran our sprinkler system.  My water rights give me a set day/time to water from the irrigation.  This does not line up with my secondary water day/time.  Thus, to outward appearance, I am in violation of the secondary water restrictions, and someone turned us in on it, so we got a warning in the mail yesterday. 



The Drought is no laughing matter, seriously.  There's a city south of us that is imposing restrictions on CULINARY WATER.  (granted it's because their idiot residents are using culinary to water their precious lawns)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 20, 2013, 05:12:11 PM


I've made several mistakes in my attempt at the 3 sisters garden this year.  Nothing to do but learn and apply it to next year. 

1:  It's not designed for sweet corn.  I knew that going in, attempting to adapt it AS I DID was a mistake.  The whole planting sweet corn every 2 weeks to keep you in corn, and having to wait to plant pumpkins after each set of corn is just too problematic. 

2:  Idiot...I should have made many shorter rows of corn running the other direction instead of fewer long rows.  Would have allowed easier access later on. 

3: The beans...are not working out well.  I'm going to replace them with fish emulsion fertilizer.
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I'd encourage you not to give up. I don't have a lot of experience with pumpkins, and what success I did have may have been more due to good luck than good management. Or maybe good weather.

Sweet corn I know more about. I grew up on a farm and we sold roadside for decades. Contract commercial sweet corn, too.

I think #2 is the key point. No, you're not an idiot.  Common mistake. For one thing, unless you are hand pollinating, or orienting your rows towards the prevailing wind, sweet corn will pollinate better when planted in a square than a long narrow rectangle.  So I think the shorter rows are the way to go for multiple plantings.

Also, even if you don't have as many plantings of pumpkins as corn, can you guide the vines ?

Or reserve spots for future cornstalks with something like stove pipes, or tomato cages until the corn grows above the pumpkin canopy?

On the other hand, if it's primarily decorative stalks/Halloween, I suppose you could switch to popcorn, or ornamental corn, or just plant the sweet corn all at once and then process and freeze the surplus.

Just food for thought... so to speak.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 20, 2013, 08:25:29 PM
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I'd encourage you not to give up. I don't have a lot of experience with pumpkins, and what success I did have may have been more due to good luck than good management. Or maybe good weather.

Sweet corn I know more about. I grew up on a farm and we sold roadside for decades. Contract commercial sweet corn, too.

I think #2 is the key point. No, you're not an idiot.  Common mistake. For one thing, unless you are hand pollinating, or orienting your rows towards the prevailing wind, sweet corn will pollinate better when planted in a square than a long narrow rectangle.  So I think the shorter rows are the way to go for multiple plantings.

I knew that to be better for the corn.  But, Pumpkins are the priority, so this design was specifically to maximize the number of pumpkin plants.  What I failed to realize is just HOW MUCH corn I'm really able to plant.  It's a deceptively large garden.  I could run the other way and not really significantly impact my pumppkin numbers, but possibly double or triple the corn.  I'm doing 3 plantings of corn this year (2 of pumpkins, 3 varieties of corn), and could easily make room to do 5 or 6 smaller plantings next year.  More likely I'll do 3 plantings in 6 plots next year. 

The beans are just being a pain in the ass.  They're whole purpose is to add nitrogen, we're not going to eat more than a couple (I'm the only one that would eat them).  I can accomplish the nitrogen with a fish emulsion routine just fine...maybe even just bury a couple buckets at the start of the year.

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Also, even if you don't have as many plantings of pumpkins as corn, can you guide the vine?

That's what we're trying in corn batch 3.  The pumpkins are already planted and growing, will be planting the corn this weekend. 

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Or reserve spots for future cornstalks with something like stove pipes, or tomato cages until the corn grows above the pumpkin canopy?

Stove pipes? 

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On the other hand, if it's primarily decorative stalks/Halloween, I suppose you could switch to popcorn, or ornamental corn, or just plant the sweet corn all at once and then process and freeze the surplus.

Just food for thought... so to speak.

Sweet corn is one of the few things out of the garden the kids will all eat.  So, SOME of it is for eating. 

However, I'm producing a TON of plants here, some is just for decoration.  Batch 3 of corn is a silage corn unsuitable for human consumption.  Waiting 3 weeks between batch 2 to make sure no crossbreeding/taste contamination on the sweet corn. 

During my hiatus of work last October, I spent several days driving through farm country, and found a farmer selling a few stalks for decoration, and bought a lb of seed from him in the spring.  It's impressive stuff, if it'll grow in the small garden.

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 20, 2013, 10:30:47 PM
Not necessarily stove pipes... that's my foolish idea.  Chicken wire would be better... Something to hold the place and let light in for the corn.... it's all moot anyway if you have enough space for your corn.


The silage corn is usually bred for tonnage, and to be digestable, so it's a softer stalk.  Grain corn is bred to have a hard stalk so that it can stand late into the season and dry as much as possible naturally.

So- if you get more of those high winds, you might need to support them with some stakes and twine trelis,  sort of like a row of sunflowers in a backyard.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 20, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
Yeah, this is a 15' tall variety bred to be wind and drought resistant.  There's a little question as to how wind resistant it will be in a small garden as opposed to a huge field, but I'll have one row supported by the fence, and the prevailing wind plays to that. 

If it does well, I'll cut back my aggressive splitting of the raven grass (going to be a horrible harvest of that this year, I transplanted and/or split 80% of it last fall.  Lost some, too).  If not, I'll just stick to the raven grass plan for Halloween decor.  Raven grass rows on half the bed (leaving room for pumpkins between them) would be just as effective for my purpose as the corn/pumpkin combo.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 22, 2013, 03:57:36 AM
well, all done planting for the year.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 22, 2013, 06:18:06 AM
Great!

Since I know your views on corn pesticides with regard to bees...  What sort of insects and other natural controls do you use to control the beetles and moths that attack the corn stalk and roots?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 22, 2013, 08:32:14 PM
UnO, since you have so much unused veggie yield, and appearantly don't use pesticides, there's no local market for organic grown veggies?

I assume it's the manhours needed to harvest that's holding you back?  :(
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 23, 2013, 02:34:18 AM
Great!

Since I know your views on corn pesticides with regard to bees...  What sort of insects and other natural controls do you use to control the beetles and moths that attack the corn stalk and roots?

Between the tachinid flies and trichogramma wasps I've been actively encouraging as predators on squash bugs, they naturally predate on the corn pests as well, we had 2 ears get a borer last year.  That's acceptable numbers for me.  One of the bigger things to get used to is that your bugs need stuff to predate on, so you're going to have some pests, you just have to live with it, and hope to keep the numbers acceptable. 

So far, in my monitoring, we have 3 new species of tachinid flies this year, and 2 unidentified trichogramma wasps along with mantids, FINALLY, and ladybugs (which were also absent last year).  We also have an impressive natural  population of green lacewings that I've never had to actively encourage.  In fact, they are occasionally annoying. 

I'm attempting to get some orbweavers going this year as well. 

NOW, as long as the new neighbors don't go plastering insecticide, we should be good.  They start spraying, and it could be problematic.  Their kids already freaked, a couple days ago (5 years and under).  So, I got the net and observation box out (basically just a box with multiple magnifying glasses), and taught them what was what. 

There's also 4 species of bees, 2 of which are new, and I'm attempting to cultivate a hive of one of them, as I have the queen and quickly made her an suitable home (the other is a solitary species).

However, we do have a rather impressive amount of activity over there...and it's an intimidating SOUND at some times of the day, as in nightmarish amounts of buzzing.  If I didn't know what I knew I'd be spraying in a heartbeat.     

We know one of the neighbors on that fenceline sprayed a hive in the past.  I can just educate and hope. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 23, 2013, 02:39:10 AM
UnO, since you have so much unused veggie yield, and appearantly don't use pesticides, there's no local market for organic grown veggies?

I assume it's the manhours needed to harvest that's holding you back?  :(

Legal issues, basically. 

I'd have to certify as an organic grower, then licenses and crap.  I'd never make back the costs therein.  TECHNICALLY we could get in trouble for the pumpkin stand.  But then, kids can get in trouble for lemonade stands, TECHNICALLY.

What we'll have unused this year is a lot of corn, and a few beans.  We'll give away the sweet corn easy enough. 

I'm considering what to do with the corn from the silage/silo corn.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 24, 2013, 01:31:42 AM
Love working clay...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 24, 2013, 05:01:00 AM


Between the tachinid flies and trichogramma wasps I've been actively encouraging as predators on squash bugs, they naturally predate on the corn pests as well, we had 2 ears get a borer last year.  That's acceptable numbers for me.  One of the bigger things to get used to is that your bugs need stuff to predate on, so you're going to have some pests, you just have to live with it, and hope to keep the numbers acceptable. 

So far, in my monitoring, we have 3 new species of tachinid flies this year, and 2 unidentified trichogramma wasps along with mantids, FINALLY, and ladybugs (which were also absent last year).  We also have an impressive natural  population of green lacewings that I've never had to actively encourage.  In fact, they are occasionally annoying. 

I'm attempting to get some orbweavers going this year as well. 

I fooled around with trichogramma wasps on the farm. I had no idea they were so versatile, but I guess an insect egg or larva is a lot like another insect egg or larvae from a food source / egg laying standpoint. I don't think they stayed around any plants where I tried to introduce them.  On the other hand, I thought they made a big difference over time in the fly population on the crust of the stored hog manure and around some of the buildings .

Do you need ladybugs if you've got plentiful green lacewings?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 24, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
I have an advantage over a large farm situation re: trichogramma wasps.  Most the surrounding area is unsuitable habitat.  So, I create the habitat, and they pretty much stay where introduced as there's little in the way of alternatives.  I've read that some reporting up to 80% effectivity with them in an agricultural setting.  That's approaching pesticide levels, but it was not the most scientific reading I've ever seen claiming such either. 

The Lacewings are excellent...I'd actually like to REDUCE their numbers though, as they keep making themselves annoying.  They seem to LOVE to clog up the propane lines on the grill.  Don't fret, the grill has a charcoal side for when I want to do real cooking as well, and even a smoker attachment, thank you, but it's just easier to fire up the propane to grill a few burgers for the kids, and I LOVE the propane side burner that works as a charcoal starter...which they've presently clogged up, gotta clean it out. 

Plus I have a 5 year old daughter...ladybugs are 'cute' lacewings are 'icky'.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 24, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
That sounds like an awesome grill!  I used to cure, smoke, and slice porkbellies... 
Here and now, my wife likes teriyaki marinades for steaks, lemon-garlic marinades for pork and charcoal grilling so that's all that normally happens.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 24, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
My grill:

http://www.gas-grill-review.com/char-griller-duo.html (http://www.gas-grill-review.com/char-griller-duo.html)

I'd say it's a jack of all trades grill, so it works for us, but there's better out there if you're going to specialize in any one aspect.

We keep it in the garage during the winter, and I happily wheel it out and grill in sub freezing weather in the driveway to the amusement of neighbors. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 24, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
I was going to post a " :o ", at the price tag, but it seems there are grills for sale over $1,000! :help:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 24, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
Yeah, you can get a good charcoal grill for dirt cheap.  Propane gets pricey.  Prior to this we were rockin' a $20 aussie grill. 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Aussie-Walk-A-Bout-Portable-Charcoal-Grill-4200-0A236/100164850 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Aussie-Walk-A-Bout-Portable-Charcoal-Grill-4200-0A236/100164850)

(which appears to be $50 now, wtf?) 

This grill was part of my payment for consulting/prop building for the professional haunt in 2011.  Owner was a dealer, so probably was a lot cheaper for him than retail. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 25, 2013, 01:49:59 PM
80's today, 100's slated for the rest of the forecast. 

Only about half the pumpkins are ready for that kind of heat.  I expect increased water restrictions before too long.  Might accelerate a Halloween plan that would double as a shade for the garden for just such circumstance...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on June 25, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Yeah, you can get a good charcoal grill for dirt cheap.  Propane gets pricey.  Prior to this we were rockin' a $20 aussie grill. 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Aussie-Walk-A-Bout-Portable-Charcoal-Grill-4200-0A236/100164850 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Aussie-Walk-A-Bout-Portable-Charcoal-Grill-4200-0A236/100164850)

(which appears to be $50 now, wtf?) 


Part of decreasing the budget deficit? Doubling import taxes of foreign goods?  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 25, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
Due to schedules, won't have time to accelerate the halloween plan, will just have to mulch around the pumpkins in an attempt to keep their roots cooled. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 26, 2013, 12:27:32 AM
Ok...trouble brewing. 

Time to have the car renewed.  Left at the shop a mile away and walked home. 

First thing to catch my eye was an ungodly amount of honeydew ALL OVER the trees near the shop.  On inspection, I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY APHIDS IN MY LIFE!!!

I monitored plants as I walked, aphids are normally a minor cosmetic annoyance at worst, but they are KILLING plants by sheer number, and the mold that potentially forms from excessive honeydew could be problematic as well.  Low lying plants are doing ok likely thanks to pesticides, but people are not spraying the TREES, and it's clear the aphids are spreading down the mature elms that line the streets here. 

The plague level is presently about a block from my place, and the mummies start appearing from there (leftovers from trichogramma wasps).  This explains why I have several new species of the wasps set up shop in the garden as the best habitat in the vicinity, and in general they should keep aphids in check, but I've never seen this level.  Will be interesting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 26, 2013, 04:10:27 AM
So do  these aphids have ant guardians ?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 26, 2013, 04:42:11 AM
Doesn't appear so, but there were a couple boils of ants along the sidewalk on the way back.  Also noted a comparatively few ladybugs up in the trees.  Today was one of those I wish I had a macro lens for the camera. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 26, 2013, 02:53:29 PM
I'm currently a little flush in the Halloween budget department, and have decided it's time to buy a new point and shoot camera. 

Those of you who have followed me a bit may recall my present point and shoot (known affectionately as string camera) is falling apart.  After being abused for 10 years, it is presently held together by a string, and is now suffering from some focus issues that come and go.  10 year old camera technology is not that great, no, but for a point and shoot in the shop, it is a wonderful little device.  I want a new one, but google only brings up spare parts on the thing.  No used, no refurbished...nothin'. 

New point and shoots are severe overkill for my needs.  I have bertha for when I want a nice picture. 

My last road trip showed me my lovely 2nd? genreation ipod is struggling with capacity as well, for when I load up audiobooks...


I'm noticing the cameras on an ipod touch exceed my 10 year old point and shoot in capability, and such a device would be in the shop blaring music anyway, so handy.  My question that google seems to be having trouble answering:

How easy is it to transfer said pics to the PC for editting?  Is it a 'normal' file format, or proprietary? 

Anyone with any real experience taking photos with one? 


Or, any recommendations on a good, cheap, camera? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 26, 2013, 11:43:22 PM
The Hearse Song (the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out) Performed by Harley Poe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qIBHStUc0#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 27, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
Ahh.  Can you find a recording of "Hot Snot and Booger Rolls" too?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on June 27, 2013, 03:45:13 AM
Not familiar with that one. 

Watching goosebumps with the kids, it featured intelligent worms uh, threatening?, a town, so I started singing that song.  Kids didn't believe it was a real song, so googled it for em, thought I'd share the results. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 01, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
The Aphid plague is now on my trees. 

Releasing a few thousand ladybugs tonight in response.  I'm well aware of 1976 UK ladybug 'plague' brought on by increased aphids following a similar hot spell there, ran out of aphids and reportedly bit people).  I'll take the ladybug plague later, thanks. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 02, 2013, 02:08:51 PM
I'm not fond of most the pests.  I just believe that your standard practice of chemical warfare does more harm than good.  Virtually all your predators recover from such methods at a much slower rate than the pests. 

My war against the squash bugs last year was not pretty.  Tachinid flies are not commercially available and the native ladybugs aren't fond of squash bugs.  Had to deal with the first brood by hand, inspecting and squashing eggs.  Rounded up and released a few hundred tachinid flies (from the farmer I typically sell the water to, he was going to spray, so I rounded up the flies first) to deal with the second brood.  There's a certain satisfaction with watching the fly crawl it's way out of the squash bug Alien style. 



And silverfish.  they creep me out for no logical reason. 

Fortunately, we're typically too dry for them here.

Yeah...about that...

This new building is apparantly infested with them.  Makes some sense, the leaky roof has this a nice humid habitat.  I'm severely tempted to drop a couple bug bombs and come back next week.  They spawn a reaction in me similar to most people with spiders.  First time I've had to really confront them, however. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 02, 2013, 04:07:07 PM
Wondering why the Musquee pumpkins are not grown locally at the moment.  A little hard to get started, granted, but they are THRIVING despite 100+ temps all week.   

The Cinderellas that were exposed have died, but the ones shaded by the corn are growing well, so the experiment there has done well.  The mini pumpkins are a lot less vigorous than I had hoped so far.


The 15ft tall corn had fantastic emergence from the seed the farmer sold me.  We've been having rather high winds with this heat wave, though, so if it gets too tall before the roots take hold, could be trouble.  Winds have knocked down half of the "Ambrosia" corn I planted.  "King Kool" seems to be doing better with the wind (was also in the ground 3 weeks longer), but did not seem to handle the early planting as well as advertised.  Found a supplier for the old hybrid we grew on the farm anyway, going to switch to that next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 02, 2013, 05:01:21 PM
"Uno, I'm told you know how to fix our problem."

3 years.

3 YEARS.

And you're just now realizing you don't have the paperwork to GET PAID? :wall:

Not to mention I don't really want my name associated with this abomination to begin with. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2013, 05:07:51 PM
-This would be something at work that you probably can't detail?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 02, 2013, 05:20:55 PM
When you build things to sell the govt, you may imagine there's a few rules.  You involve the DCMA before you begin, not at the end. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 02, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
Department of Congressional MAtters?  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2013, 06:31:49 PM
Digital Copyright Millennium Act?  ???
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 07, 2013, 05:17:12 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A01aoe_j8h8/UdjrnwzM0wI/AAAAAAAASXg/dSXaCtKXhFo/s800/IMG_0080.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 07, 2013, 02:32:36 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 07, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
So, Talia comes up.

"Daddy, we need to make a scarecrow so the birds don't nibble on our corn."

"Ok, you can build one and I'll put it out there." 

"No, scarecrows don't work very good to scare the birds, we need to put Fred in one of those scary coats, and put his arm out like this, and put a hat on him, then the birds will nibble on Fred and not the corn, but they can't get to all of Fred because the coat is there so they can't get all fulled up and will keep nibbling on Fred." 

"Maybe that will scare the new little neighbors, honey." 

"Oh, that's just silly, I'll tell them to come say hi to Fred and they wont be scared." 

Guess I have a project for tonight. Woe be upon the neighbors. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 08, 2013, 02:19:18 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2TEIcDcXXDE/UdnimkFYYtI/AAAAAAAASYc/WUfyV91hXCk/s800/IMG_0002.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 08, 2013, 02:22:36 AM
Best scarecrow ever.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 08, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
I've got a whole rant buildup of the last 6 days I might get around to if I ever get some time...

You might have already guessed, it's not every day I have the patience to sit down and hotglue hundreds of strings to a skull...that kind of project is reserved for SPECIAL occasions...this being only the second one I've created.  Oh, but this one was even a full on original sculpture prior to getting the string treatment.  Yeah, you know I'm in a good mood when that happens.  Not to mention those annoying as hell pumpkins in the background I had been avoiding the tedium of for just such a mood....at least I'm getting things done again.  Gotta love the 4th, family and all. 

For now...I've been off since last teusday...morons in my absence contacted IT with no clue, and now have royally fubarred one of the main programs I use.  My "it can wait til I get back monday" was apparantly insufficient even though it's a bigger mess now. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 08, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
 ;nutz;

Email from IT:  "If we had a good record to begin with we would have been doing the same steps Uno tried to do, now we're not sure how to fix it" 

Yeah...good times. 

(this company, 3rd party program, has tried to hire me a couple times as I can typically run circles around their own IT folks, and write more bug reports than anyone in it's history.  I just can't afford to move to cali. )
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 08, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
Rant on, sir; rant on.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 09, 2013, 11:55:01 PM


(this company, 3rd party program, has tried to hire me a couple times as I can typically run circles around their own IT folks, and write more bug reports than anyone in it's history.  I just can't afford to move to cali. )

Are these reports about software bugs, or the garden variety bugs?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 10, 2013, 03:43:18 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2TEIcDcXXDE/UdnimkFYYtI/AAAAAAAASYc/WUfyV91hXCk/s800/IMG_0002.JPG)

And THAT is one of the reasons why this is one of the best forum on the internet.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 10, 2013, 07:19:13 PM


(this company, 3rd party program, has tried to hire me a couple times as I can typically run circles around their own IT folks, and write more bug reports than anyone in it's history.  I just can't afford to move to cali. )

Are these reports about software bugs, or the garden variety bugs?

Don't think they'd care for insect reports. 

It always surprises me how few people know how to recognize something in a program as a bug, and give the pertinent information.  Too many years playing beta tester for Blizzard, I guess. 

Anyhow, I walked IT through how to fix the latest problem.  I could do it myself if someone in cali would give me the permissions...but, well, job security and all. 





If you're wanting an insect report, the neighbors sprayed, but were kind enough to not point it over the fence.  It's hard to judge the impact completely.  I'd say a good 50% decline in overall population, it no longer has that ominous buzzing, but they moved their kids' play set back away from the fence just the same.  Fortunately, we have fireflies in the corn, and their boys come over to catch some in jars.  Haven't seen them since Fred went up, though. 

I have a new problem, slugs.  Not quite the horror movie level we had early last year, but no more friendly neighborhood skunk to come eat them.  They LOVE our butterfly bush for some reason.  And the peppers.  So, it's a salsa garden problem, not a pumpkin problem for now.

We also have squirrels...Debating how to handle them.  If they start going after crops, I'll trap.  If they just want to keep eating the birdseed, that's fine. 

The ladybugs released in my trees are winning the war over there vs the aphid plague.  Any luck and they'll start repelling it further and further. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 11, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
Unidentified butterfly (90% sure it's a butterfly) in my garden.  Hey, it's new to me, that's saying something.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lZHRHBi_k14/Ud812WSwRgI/AAAAAAAASZI/EWVVTkKw5UQ/s800/IMG_0006.JPG)

Underside of wings is white.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pc2XvcP1U3A/Ud812dgTcTI/AAAAAAAASZE/2ybODrRLbQ8/s800/IMG_0007.JPG)

Guessing family Lycaenidae...looking through lists for Utah. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 12, 2013, 12:02:41 AM
Had the family right, that made identification easy.

Gray Hairstreak.  Apparently here to lay eggs on the beans (no problem).  Bunch of males on my corn and pumpkins looking for mates.   

http://bugguide.net/node/view/579 (http://bugguide.net/node/view/579)

Utah info says it's most northern location known is about 40 miles south of me.  Hot year, means it come north, will not survive the winter. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 12, 2013, 01:31:23 AM
If you're wanting an insect report, the neighbors sprayed, but were kind enough to not point it over the fence.  It's hard to judge the impact completely.  I'd say a good 50% decline in overall population, it no longer has that ominous buzzing, but they moved their kids' play set back away from the fence just the same.  Fortunately, we have fireflies in the corn, and their boys come over to catch some in jars.  Haven't seen them since Fred went up, though. 

I have a new problem, slugs.  Not quite the horror movie level we had early last year, but no more friendly neighborhood skunk to come eat them.  They LOVE our butterfly bush for some reason.  And the peppers.  So, it's a salsa garden problem, not a pumpkin problem for now.

We also have squirrels...Debating how to handle them.  If they start going after crops, I'll trap.  If they just want to keep eating the birdseed, that's fine. 

The ladybugs released in my trees are winning the war over there vs the aphid plague.  Any luck and they'll start repelling it further and further.

Sure, insect reports are always welcome!

Slugs! I detest them. Lime the --- -------- at night, I say!   I suppose your PH isn't compatible with that approach. Skunks can be a pain in the corn patch, because they are wasteful and destructive. While a raccoon and it's family will consume a lot more, at least a raccoon knows how to check an ear for ripeness without destroying it, and he eats what he husks. Raccoons know their corn. I'm on a slug eating mammal tangent, I guess.  Mixed blessings.

Out there, don't you have lizards and toads to eat the slugs? 

Congratulations on turning the tide in the aphid war so soon!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 12, 2013, 03:40:35 AM
I got no idea what the PH is to be honest, but this must have been the approach of the former owner of the house.  We had several 50lb bags of lime in the shed when we moved in. 

The skunk didn't touch much of anything other than the slugs last year, and it was HORROR MOVIE LEVELS, as in the ENTIRE SIDE OF THE YARD was a writhing mass early in the mornings, you couldn't walk, slime covered skin crawling sight.  I figure the skunk was just getting his fill on slugs and thus left the garden alone, and the house next door was for sale so his den was safe at the time.  It took me a few weeks to pin down what it was getting into the yard at night, had a few close brushes with it.  Once I got a light on him, I just made sure the kids knew how to handle it if they ran into it, but I'm usually the only one up at the same time.  One or two nights there was an odor, but it was mostly just interesting.  Kinda sad when they trapped it. 

There's no lizards here in the wasatch front.  Out in the desert you might.  Toads are rare thanks to housing developments.  I have some salamanders down by the irrigation ditch, but that doesn't help where the slugs are.  I could bring in some ducks, but would rather not.  Beer traps will be clogged far too quick.  Rather not bait.  vinegar/water was working before the skunk showed up last year. 


Sat watching the garden for about an hour this afternoon.  Lots of those butterflies. 

I've been letting milkweed grow in a corner in the hopes of attracting monarchs for my daughter, but 5 years now and no luck, but we do have red milkweed beetles.  I have a special affection for the longhorn beetles. 

Couple spider species I can't place, but I'm not that good with arachnids, so no surprise there. 

Ants tending aphids in the corn was interesting to watch.  There's not a terrible plague level there, so not too fussed about it.  Interesting...it's only the King Kool corn.  That's the one silking/tasseling now...gotta see if that's coincidence or not later. 

Harvestmen are abundant.  Fitting.  (though more commonly known as daddy longlegs)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 12, 2013, 03:48:46 AM
Couple spider species I can't place, but I'm not that good with arachnids, so no surprise there.
:o
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 12, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
Eh.  Had to limit the collection somehow, and I drew the line at arachnids, mostly because at the time, it was REAL hard to find field guides to arachnids. Hell, I had to special order my insect guides.  I can do a basic family, but to give a specific species, I'd have to run through bugguide, and even then, identification is often difficult without extreme examination (as in capture and magnification). 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 12, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
Tempted by a macro lens in the local classifieds...

It's a 3rd party, and a kit lens, but would work on Bertha.  I have a new point and shoot coming this weekend, we'll see how it handles things.  String camera took 20 shots to get the 2 usable ones of the butterfly above, thing is dying swiftly. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 12, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Former NSA stuff? :-[
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 12, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
I doubt they use pentax or macro lenses. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 12, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
HORROR Movie levels!
I guess that's right up your alley. Now all you need is that Zombie of the moors statue, a can of beer to spray around,  and you'll have a photo to terrorize  that decorating contest.

I can see as how you'd need a nocturnal predator for that kind of infestation.

Or maybe train your magpies to attack at dawn...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2013, 06:37:18 PM
So...

The local fruit stand started erecting their pavilion this weekend. 

I grew up working a farm, and helping run one of these stands.  I earlier had made it a point to support this particular stand as opposed to driving out of my way to get to the ones in Layton. 

2010, that changed. 

Prior to that, we would buy 1-3 pumpkins a year.  It was no big deal to head over to the permanent structure, and buy a couple pumpkins.  Sure, I could get them at walmart for $3, and was paying $5 at the stand, but it was the whole support the local farmer thing. 

2010, we lost most our stuff and the whole idea of the pumpkin party was born.  Meanwhile, the fruit stand had struck hard times of a sort, and had to move out of the permanent building, instead building a temp stand a couple blocks from us.  I hadn't planned on the pumpkin party, it kinda sprang upon me in September, so wasn't growing my own at the time.  I saw them put out their pumpkins soon after, so went to talk.  Surely, me buying 60 would get me some kind of bulk discount.  I've been in the business, know the score.

Nope.  Not only no deal, but those $5 pumpkins were being sold for $10 or more.  "Specialty" pumpkins selling for $15 or more. 

A Layton stand gave me the same story.  I eventually got numberous farmers thrilled to deal with me, and eventually settled on our official nursery.  http://www.countrygardensnursery.co/about/ (http://www.countrygardensnursery.co/about/)

They fully signed on, and put me in touch with the growers, negotiated at-cost purchase and purchases of smallish sizes, that, while perfectly fine, are more difficult for those farmers to sell, thus CHEAP, and delivered the pumpkins that year.  $5 for pumpkins of the past was made a mockery as I was buying for $1. 

While I've begun growing my own, we do make at least an annual trip out to that nursery.  It's a little out of the way from us. 

Last year, I was happy to provide many of our neighbors with the $1 pumpkin, as much to stiff that damn stand as anything else.  They offered to buy me out before we sold any.  I turned them down.  We easily had as many pumpkins as them the day we had our stand up.  We sold out in an hour.  I'm sure they got replenished through the year, but they filled several dumpsters after halloween. 

Well, they've moved within a block of me this year.  If it weren't around the corner, and thus behind a house, i could see them from my porch.  They'll start selling corn, probably this week.  (my own should be ready for picking by the weekend)

I think it might be interesting if I have pumpkins to sell this year.  Especially if all my 'specialty' ones do well.  Almost makes me wish I could plant enough corn to sell...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 15, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Minor insect report. 

The anti-halloween neighbors across the street.  Tried beekeeping last year, wouldn't listen to me, 3 hives perished.  Bought more in the spring, they all swamed over the weekend.  Unusual for a first year colony, probably indicative or poor conditions.  Freaked out the neighbor kids as the swarm took up residence on their tree, near my garden.  Captured,  catching the neighbor in time before he loosed his can o poison.  Stung a few dozen times in the process.  Sans-bee suit. 

The neighbors insist it's not theirs, but a glance at their hives tells me otherwise.  Ah well, donating to a local keeper, honeybees are too much work for me. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 17, 2013, 06:42:07 PM
Been having charlie horses in the leg that was stung since it was stung...

The pumpkins are beginning to produce female flowers, mostly the musquee and sugars right now.  Most are shriveling in the heat, but good bee activity in the area. 

Pretty sure we have our first one set, despite the heat, but will take a few days to be sure.  It has me questioning though, as it's on what I had labeled as Musquee, but looks a LOT like the cinderellas of last year.  Interweb searches are inconclusive with musquee pics either looking the same or vastly different.  It's entirely possible we got some hybrid seeds...I mean I was extra careful with the labeling...   


The King Kool corn could be ready for picking any day now, it topped out at 6', so the stalks won't be useless after all.  The Ambrosia is starting to tassle, and is already at the 6' mark, so will make good decor material as well.  The field corn is already waist high after 3 weeks. 

New camera due to arrive any day now. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 18, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
String camera replacement is here.  It's the next model of string camera, but they changed from a more familiar (for the old school camera person like me) dial system to a menu driven one.  Going to take me some time to figure out where to find what I need.  I have 3 buttons I can custom assign, but have to program it. 

It also handles ISO settings different than the old one, only allowing it to be manually set in a couple modes instead of universally.  I tried to shoot a couple things right out of the box, and they looked like crap.  The camera had automagically set it's iso to 3200...which is almost never a good thing on digital cameras (in it's defense it was probably 'logical' considering the lighting and no flash set). 

 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 18, 2013, 06:32:19 PM
It's hard to tell if this is clever telemarketing or real.

"Hi I'm calling from (insert pest control place here) letting you know we're going to be in the neighborhood spraying for insects today, and wanted to know if you had any problems we could take care of."

"Not really"

"Your neighbors are reporting problems with bees and hornets, we could take care of such pests for you."

"I don't consider them pests."

"You don't have any pests that need to be killed?"

"Companies killing bees probably don't count, do they?"


Don't know if someone really called in something or not, but company soliciting in the area spraying for bees is probably not a good thing. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2013, 06:52:10 PM
You got a sales call from a live person?  Boy that takes me back; the recordings calling constantly are driving me nuts.  You can't tell them to stop.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 18, 2013, 07:17:02 PM
Its the door-to-door folks that have become a plague recently who annoy me. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2013, 07:30:54 PM
Haven't seen anyone but missionaries doing that in over a decade, thank God.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 18, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
We got the standard college kids with the magazines and cleaning products, but there's also all KINDS of delivery services up here.  You probably wouldn't need to head to a grocer other than for personal care products.  Dairy, bakery, meats, frozen foods everything delivered, and door to door salesmen trying to get you to sign on.   

Lawn care, pest control, etc.  Someone in your neighborhood signs up for something, a salesman will knock down doors trying to sign up more people at least once a month, it's better for routes, I assume. 

Then there's the insallers...TV/Phone/Internet guys love to do a neighborhood at a time, so any time someone switches/signs up, they knock down doors.  Someone gets new windows/siding/roofing/etc, same routine. 

Maybe it's a utah thing, all those missionaries come back and need a job...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 18, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Could be worse; I'd rather talk to six Mormons than one Jehovah's Witness.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 19, 2013, 12:34:11 AM
messin with the new camera's "digital macro" mode.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4dpJnIjmSKs/Ueh5VTTidTI/AAAAAAAASbk/1NWQZUbLzO4/s800/IMG_0005.JPG)

unfortunately, you have to be within a few inches and the autofocus doesn't always pick right.  tachinid fly

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gXqQfOsZ6LQ/Ueh5VqzvbMI/AAAAAAAASbI/N0eL35y6_mQ/s800/IMG_0006.JPG)

Has a zoom that lets you back off, but that makes the macro mode's focus problems amplify and pixelates the image.  Damsel fly.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0EF2G1qbJT0/Ueh5skdNpnI/AAAAAAAAScM/kvumC_IbWhg/s800/IMG_0008.JPG)

There's also a macro setting within manual mode that doesn't go fully 1:1, I'll try it out later. 

Just a point and shoot replacement here, I know it's not the greatest quality in shots, but good for the shop. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 19, 2013, 01:25:35 AM
Are you leaning towards liking it?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 19, 2013, 01:26:35 AM
Oh, the camera will do it's job as a string camera replacement, I don't know that the macro mode is going to be worth much. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 20, 2013, 04:29:29 AM
It's hard to tell if this is clever telemarketing or real.

"Hi I'm calling from (insert pest control place here) letting you know we're going to be in the neighborhood spraying for insects today, and wanted to know if you had any problems we could take care of."

"Not really"

"Your neighbors are reporting problems with bees and hornets, we could take care of such pests for you."

"I don't consider them pests."

"You don't have any pests that need to be killed?"

"Companies killing bees probably don't count, do they?"


Don't know if someone really called in something or not, but company soliciting in the area spraying for bees is probably not a good thing.

 ;lol

Well, with your pollinators buzzing, and the other neighbor's runaway hives, there were probably enough bees about to bug somebody enough to make a call... even if they were just seen or heard. It only takes one allergic person to make an entire family nervous.

I'm guessing somebody actually called.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
We saw a definite drop in my squash bees, but not catastrophic, so I can guess who it was to spray.  Same guy that sprayed my bees 2 years ago.  It's not inconceivable there was a squash bee hive or 5 in his yard.  (they build lots of littler hives)

Honey bee with macro setting on the manual mode of the camera.  Not true macro. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Yxcpo0bqwDs/UeqiUvZta9I/AAAAAAAASc4/C6xBpVSjYhI/s800/IMG_0012.JPG)

Squash bee in "digital macro" mode. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yj_PFFFfav0/UeqiUZYB8FI/AAAAAAAASc8/G7z76-JiW4w/s800/IMG_0009.JPG)

If there was a manual focus, this would actually be a useful setting instead of situational. 

 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 20, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
I must say, this is severely tempting me to take $500 out of the Halloween budget and buy a proper macro lens for Bertha. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 20, 2013, 07:55:33 PM
I like to eat squash blossoms. This makes me hungry.

I'm sure you would put the macro lens to good use.


I know there are things that I can afford, but cannot justify to myself. Sometimes because I think the price is excessive. Sometimes because the purchase or donation is sort of frivolous. Sometimes because of financial uncertainty in my life, and I need contingency funds to feel secure.

You'll have to work that out for yourself. I'm sure if you really want it, you could create a marketable Halloween sculpture to offset the costs.  Few people can compare to you when it comes to combining creativity, productivity, and time management.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 20, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
Squash blossoms being good eatin' is a new one by me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 21, 2013, 01:13:52 AM
For an overview and explanation of eating squash blossoms -
http://seattletimes.com/html/homegarden/2009448964_yardsmart11.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/homegarden/2009448964_yardsmart11.html)

For Recipes -
http://www.thekitchn.com/five-ways-to-eat-squash-blosso-87564 (http://www.thekitchn.com/five-ways-to-eat-squash-blosso-87564)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 21, 2013, 05:50:01 AM
Oh, I have the money, it's just set aside for Halloween.  It's not even going to be spent this year, it's most of my set-aside for a skulltronix.  It's a question of which do I want to do more: robotics or bugs.  I'm leaning bugs at the moment.  It's a much older hobby than Halloween, and has a lot less equipment requirement than robotics. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 22, 2013, 04:03:55 AM
My daughter's impression of how the latest project is coming.
First shot with new camera shop work, inside, no flash.  It's overexposing on it's own, going to have to reign that back.
 
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kipSaCmzIJ0/Ueygq3SCSeI/AAAAAAAASd0/_Rzlfp5zpSM/s800/IMG_0019.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 22, 2013, 06:22:26 PM
Ok, we gots the squash bugs.  Saw a mating pair the other night, and just stomped em.  Saw a bunch of nymphs this morning though, given the levels and neighbors spraying, I'm going to have to resort to taking action and break out the neem oil tonight. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 22, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
Ok, we gots the squash bugs.  Saw a mating pair the other night, and just stomped em.

 ;lol What an instructive name!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 03:26:06 PM
I....

I need to put up and lock the gate, apparantly. 

So, long story short, my neighbor to the NW, the one who in the past has sprayed bees living near the shed, sprayed weedkiller on that 'nasty' milkweed I had growing, and various other "helpful" things over the years took it on himself to come spray the garden last week.  "All those little flies and bees" obviously were not good, and he hadn't seen me, so thought I was out of town again, so he came over to 'help'. 

Well, he decimated my trichogramma (and put a good dent in the squash bees) and now I have squash bugs running rampant as a result.  We're giving the neem oil a chance, and I manually disposed of a few hundred eggs, but I have some real nasty stuff in storage if it comes right down to it.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 23, 2013, 03:29:45 PM
Can't you sue him for intruding?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 03:31:14 PM
Maybe.  To what end?  Pissing off another neighbor? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 23, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
I assume he's pissing you off with spraying your garden. Surely you must have told him before his pesticide isn't welcome on your property?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
We've had some disagreements on the fenceline, with the milkweed, and a few other plants that he promtly weedkilled, but the raven grass on that corner has been a mutually agreed planting.   

Yes, he sprayed the bees before, but the hive was between my shed and the fenceline.  He's raising 2 granddaughters, and I really couldn't blame him for that with the common perception of bees, especially if the girls are allergic.  It's one thing to spray something through/over the fence, I never considered someon bringing a sprayer and coating my property, though. 

Thing is, in his mind he's helping me.  Gardening is a thing in Utah.  LDS members believe in being self sufficient, and some in Utah take it to an extreme.  If you're buying vegetables, you're doing it wrong.  My methods are not kosher with the accepted norm around here, having learned from a much older heathen farmer, I don't use the modern methods being taught by the church organizations (yes, really) add in mixing my own entomology interests, and thus I'm doing it "wrong" and need to be taught, fellowshipped, and converted.  My parents have done similar to me over the years, coming to "help" and show me the error of my ways through example.  I did explain I had been trying to go organic, and what the bees and 'flies' were actually beneficial.  Will it stick?  I don't know.  I'm still a little flabergasted at the though of someone going to someone else's property to spray poison. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 23, 2013, 05:28:53 PM
We've had some disagreements on the fenceline, with the milkweed, and a few other plants that he promtly weedkilled, but the raven grass on that corner has been a mutually agreed planting.   

Yes, he sprayed the bees before, but the hive was between my shed and the fenceline.  He's raising 2 granddaughters, and I really couldn't blame him for that with the common perception of bees, especially if the girls are allergic.  It's one thing to spray something through/over the fence, I never considered someon bringing a sprayer and coating my property, though. 

Thing is, in his mind he's helping me.  Gardening is a thing in Utah.  LDS members believe in being self sufficient, and some in Utah take it to an extreme.  If you're buying vegetables, you're doing it wrong.  My methods are not kosher with the accepted norm around here, having learned from a much older heathen farmer, I don't use the modern methods being taught by the church organizations (yes, really) add in mixing my own entomology interests, and thus I'm doing it "wrong" and need to be taught, fellowshipped, and converted.  My parents have done similar to me over the years, coming to "help" and show me the error of my ways through example.  I did explain I had been trying to go organic, and what the bees and 'flies' were actually beneficial.  Will it stick?  I don't know.  I'm still a little flabergasted at the though of someone going to someone else's property to spray poison.

Okay. I do hope you somehow get the message across it's a huge no-no to not only enter your property unannounced (thinking you're not home), but physically forcing his way of life on your garden. It sounds borderline fundamentalistic to me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 05:55:04 PM
It's Utah.  Of course it's fundamentalistic.  There's so many little side things, no one could do them all, so you get fanatics for all kinds of little aspects of the faith.  Church tells their members to be prepared and have food storage, you got the fanatics that have a year's supply of MRE's for the end of the world. 

The Word of Wisdom is a perfect example.  People happily ignore the whole part about eating little meat and getting to bed on time, but fanatically embrace things like no coffee, alcohol, or smoking.  The whole circus that is Utah drinking laws reflect that.   

They are pushing the gardens again recently, at least at the local level.  Guess the younger generation has lost it's way there.  Hence the neighbor's across the street trying to do beehives.  The church told them to make a garden, thus God wants them to be beekeepers.  In fact, they are in charge of the big church run farm.  I was offered space there, as they have extra, haven't decided whether it's worth being hassled every time I head over or not. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
You'd definitely get sprayed behind your back there.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 23, 2013, 06:39:49 PM
You'd definitely get sprayed behind your back there.

True. On the other hand, if you just wanted to plant pumpkins to undersell that nearby stand...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
Hey Uno - something I've wondered about for a while, but didn't want to ask because any answer was sure to upset Alex; if I may be so bold as to ask, there's clearly a story behind your excommunication from LDS.  Would you care to share?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 08:06:59 PM
Not much of one, honestly. 

I was ostricized early on in the neighborhood.  12 boys my age in the ward.  Various things led the boys to believe I was evil.  My best friend in the neighborhood had his dad go all murder suicide while we were in school one day, I walked in on it with him, called the cops, age 5.  Since then, anything bad was my fault more or less, a view I come to share.  The whole Halloween thing probably didn't help, even though at the youngest age, a lot of it was my means of coping with the above.  Not that Halloween is frowned upon by the church, not at all.  But, I was quite gruesome early on. 

Worked on the farm in the summers while I could, while the other boys were being kids.  That didn't lead to any teasing at all...

The farmer fell down his stairs and died, I found him, age 14.  I fell into depression shortly after amidst more 'cursed Cole' talk from the boys (shocking, I know), and my wonderful bishop at the time (who I now work with) councelled all these boys to keep away from me as a bad influence in my depression, so I found new friends and a mixture of drugs and various forms of witchcraft.  This scared a number of people, someone notified the church.  This prompted the bishop to 'council' me, I told him where he could stick it, this led to formal discipline where I refused to repent, Mom standing by my decision, thus out I go. 

That summer I was sent to a medicine man of the Sioux nation which formed the basis of where I'm at now, religiously speaking, and come home to get involved in the haunt industry from a mentor I've spoke of before, which got me out of the drug circuit.  We recreated the deaths I'd witnessed in the house that year.   Also had the hunting incident, had to wrestle a deer down and slit it's throat that year, after it had gored me and broke a shoulder blade...  The medicine man would say I have some of the deer's soul in me now.   

Took me a couple years to exorcise all the demons of the whole drugs/witchcraft timeframe, and some not-so-smart decisions that followed, and finally worked through the whole 'curse' thing with myself in the process. 

I come to realize I don't really have a problem with the CHURCH.  I have issues with how some of the members interpret things.  Same can be said for many a religion. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
You know, the more interesting part, to me, of this isn't religious - it's "We recreated the deaths I'd witnessed in the house that year."  Does a lot to confirm what I've hypothesized about your Halloween hobby as a way for you to gain a sense of control/power over morbid things with which you, for obvious reasons, have issues.

-Way to love the afflicted on the part of the church community, though.  ;sarc
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Yeah, that's how it all started.  Now it's just been my creative outlet for so long...and the whole special needs school thing, SOMEONE needs to give them a Halloween. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Well, I'm glad I asked; it's a more interesting story than you credit it being.  I don't recall you ever before mentioning finding dead people as a kid.  You've had an interesting life.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 23, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
I used to have a Muslim friend, big guy, when I was stationed out in Herat. He was part of the Afghan trainee program and he was just a grunt, and in Afghanistan it's a place of warlords and ethnic tribes: and people were and still are superstitious over there. He was of a different sect then the majority of folks (especially in the city) and he had a more... animistic approach to the religion I think is the word? He used to smoke hashish before his prayers. He helped me quite a bit with unwinding and relaxing, easing tension quite a bit. I'm not islamic nor did I smoke much, but I find lots that the truly spiritualistic people who have a fair share of wisdom and independence in life is people not part of organized religions. The guy I knew was a Muslim, but he was a Kurd, and a nomad at that. He said to me that Allah was found in all things, even pain and death, and its a lesson that he teaches to harden his servants so they become wiser and value life more, and so that they can walk the path.

I never caught on the religious belief of it, but his philosophy stuck. I don't know if he survived after I was pulled out or not, I'd like to think he's still alive.

And what you do for the Halloween festivities is admirable. I am not a religious person but I can tell you that you do have a bit of spirituality about you, and that's golden: most people don't really have spirituality, and most people mistake dogmatic belief for it. Spirituality is finding enlightened perspective through belief, and most people use religion as an excuse to shut away problems and blind themselves from other issues.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 08:50:41 PM
Speaking of interesting lives:

You were in on the LAST imperialistic foreign adventure in Afghanistan?  Fascinating. 

I imagine you think about people never learning a great deal when the US imperialistic foreign adventure in Afghanistan makes the news.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 23, 2013, 08:58:23 PM
Its something I'd rather not talk about. The Americans are facing the exact same issues we did, except that they don't have it as terrible as we did. (not that I am saying they have it easy either mind you: Its just different when your enemies are literally being funded by a world power.)
Afghanistan is hole that the United States and other nations are throwing their men to suffer and die in. That country is too divided for Capitalist Democracy to work, the same as it was for Socialist Democracy. What that country needs is a strong regime that can unite the tribes and install its authority so there can be a transition to peace. And ironically the Taliban were the closest thing to that: as repressive as they were. Before people can achieve stable freedom they have to have a peaceful home, you cannot make decisions together if you are at each others throats. And coming into a country to subjectively place a government on them is only going to unite them against YOU. And its a damned shame because so many young me and women are sent to die and linger in that hole still it disgusts me. So I am going to divert the subject before I get angry in my posts. (Not angry at any of you its just a subject that makes me relatively pissed and discontent.)

Edit: And with that its a slow steady transition: I heard news of the Arab spring and there was moronic CHEERING of rebels on forums and blogs and all this other [nonsense]- Its all just going to be full circle revolutions. You cannot have stable democracies, installed by military autocrats, and keep a nation united. The Americans learned that in their revolution, The Soviets as well. After their revolution they had to deal with loyalists and become repressive to extents, and on the Americans side they butchered and suppressed various native groups to unite their country and colonize. I am not saying atrocities are justified mind, but its a no brain conclusion that you need security and control of a situation before you implement freedoms and choice: One has to build a foundation if they are going to create a magnificent home, and without a foundation it all comes crumbling down.

Alas I am going to shut up for now. I am going to go to sleep shortly, I'll speak with you all later, dasvadanya.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 23, 2013, 09:04:04 PM
I'd say you're more than entitled to feel that way.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 23, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
Well, I'm glad I asked; it's a more interesting story than you credit it being.  I don't recall you ever before mentioning finding dead people as a kid.  You've had an interesting life.

I don't specifically avoid mentioning it.   :dunno: 

Quote
He said to me that Allah was found in all things, even pain and death, and its a lesson that he teaches to harden his servants so they become wiser and value life more, and so that they can walk the path.

I never caught on the religious belief of it, but his philosophy stuck. I don't know if he survived after I was pulled out or not, I'd like to think he's still alive.

And what you do for the Halloween festivities is admirable. I am not a religious person but I can tell you that you do have a bit of spirituality about you, and that's golden: most people don't really have spirituality, and most people mistake dogmatic belief for it. Spirituality is finding enlightened perspective through belief, and most people use religion as an excuse to shut away problems and blind themselves from other issues.

I don't know that I'd say I was spiritual, per se. 

Just touched by a child.  Halloween, for me, really went through a big metamorphasis about 8 year ago, meeting a little girl, overhearing her comment on "another house I can't go up to", where I had the classic gags with a strobe going.  I offered to turn it off, she didn't want to 'ruin it' for her siblings.  Made her a promise that night to fix it for her, and make it bigger and better. 

Nothing was better than seeing her that next year.  She had been in a depression for the season until she saw me setting up, her parents were concerned I had forgotten.  The following year, we started bringing in her school.  Yeah, I get 1000+ people each year, but I do it for ~24.

AFAIK, I'm the only dedicated epilepsy safe haunter around.  Even epilepsy organizations think I'm crazy to even attempt such a thing (I asked around for advice the first couple years).  If I ever make my own house, it will be safe as well.  Yeah, she died a few years back, but I like to think she still stops by every year, just to see how it's going. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 23, 2013, 11:33:22 PM
I'd say its a happy haunting then. You serve her memory proud by doing that, crazy or not you have my respect.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 24, 2013, 01:01:08 AM
Well, I'm glad I asked; it's a more interesting story than you credit it being.  I don't recall you ever before mentioning finding dead people as a kid.  You've had an interesting life.

He told the murder- suicide story before, I can't recall if you were Omni-present at the time.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 24, 2013, 01:04:08 AM
I'm not very forgettable, but I must not have been around for that, 'cause it's not very forgettable either.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 24, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
Not sure WHERE it was either.  Might harken back to the poly or MZO days last time, who knows. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 26, 2013, 03:02:46 AM
It was at WPC Off topic.

 Why the subject came up...   It might have had something to do with me mentioning I was squeamish and Uno listing why he was desensitized to such things( which included ambulance or first aid work, too ), or it could have been some other discussion. That could have easily occurred with a discussion about other haunts, horror movies,  etc.   I'm thinking it was mentioned twice in Off Topic.

Well, Buncle, maybe you were temporarily banned at the time. I'm better at remembering " I read about this before" than I am remembering even which year something happened, or when I read about it.

Of course there were plenty of other times when they had technical issues, and not everybody could  access the site.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 26, 2013, 03:10:59 AM
I've never been banned there.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 26, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
Ambulance AND first aid work.  Former job (production) required a trained person on staff all shifts, I was young and figured the extra $/hour was good.  Didn't foresee the perk of seeing what a 12 ton press does to someone's arm.  I'm freakishly calm in such circumstances now, it actually creeps people out.  Got to CPR a few weeks ago, even, with the boss (hEt) who works in the NICU.  Funny how everyone else around just freaks, we just go to work. 

I do appreciate not having the license anymore though.  Might be a state law, but while I had it, good samaritan no longer applied, and if I was around something I was required to help and open to lawsuits.  Sued 5 times in the 8 years I had that damn license, my favorite being the drunk neighbor that blew his own leg to shreds and sued me because he lost the leg.  Sure I saved his life, but ya know, that don't count. 

Ironically, my training is among the reasons I departed Boeing.  Their safety person and I did NOT see eye to eye on a lot of things.  Most famously I "Ruined" the companies safety record when I insisted a coworker go to the doctor.  Yeah, she had 3 broken metacarpals, but "it could have waited until after work".  He stripped me of my first aid certification.  Year later, I got in trouble for driving a coworker to the hospital.  Sure he was having a stroke, but I wasn't certified to diagnose that. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 26, 2013, 02:23:06 PM
Sued 5 times in the 8 years I had that damn license, my favorite being the drunk neighbor that blew his own leg to shreds and sued me because he lost the leg.  Sure I saved his life, but ya know, that don't count.

Hope none of those five accusers won? Also, the drunk neighbor, he's still your neighbor? I hope not, with a shotgun in his possession.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 26, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
I think they all won, honestly.  Not against me personally, the personal ones were tossed, er rather in every case, the suit against me got tied into the suit on the responding ER, as my license made me a part of the health care system.  I believe the hospitals settled every case as it was cheaper than fighting, which is total BS. 

No, I don't live in that neighborhood anymore.  Between that guy and the drug house I turned in, can't imagine why I wanted to move...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 26, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
Either stuff keeps happening in your life, or Utah is so messed up that where ever you move, you'll find nutcases.  ???
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 26, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
Yeah, how could I forget about the press?  I'm sure I read about all of that, except maybe the shotgun.

Well, like I said, I'm squeamish until the people stop screaming and the blood dries. That and I have a vivid imagination. So I try to forget the details. Maybe I deliberately forgot about the shotgun leg.

*********************

That being said, Unorthodox stories are one of the peaks of these gaming forums. I read them all, I love them all.
"How Uno became an Urban legend"  was a classic worth a re-read. Post #9
http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?5381-When-I-was-a-child&p=164609&highlight=Urban+legend#post164609 (http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?5381-When-I-was-a-child&p=164609&highlight=Urban+legend#post164609)

I'm ready for a fresh insect and slug report .
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 26, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
"It all started with the cub scouts." Post #29
http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?5381-When-I-was-a-child/page2&highlight=Urban+legend (http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?5381-When-I-was-a-child/page2&highlight=Urban+legend)

This gives you insight into character, and persistence of vision.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 26, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Here's a mention of the murder/suicide & shotgun thing. Post#54

http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?3871-Do-you-own-a-gun-or-not&p=131777&highlight=suicide#post131777 (http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?3871-Do-you-own-a-gun-or-not&p=131777&highlight=suicide#post131777)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 27, 2013, 04:43:24 AM
Picked the first tomato last night, picked the first corn tonight, my shocked son watching me shuck and eat it right there, raw, in the garden.  Anyone else like raw corn?

Took rather intensive look at the pumpkins while going through the corn.  The squash bugs don't seem to be getting worse between my egg crushing and the neem oil.  Probably 10-12 pumpkins have set.  Real confused on the french ones.  Pretty sure the one pictured earlier is a cinderella now, in which case my cinderellas are doing much better this year.  Look forward to eating them...

The musquee...them is some odd pumpkins.  The flower appears to be GREEN.  Or I got some odd hybrid something on one of my vines.   

Luminas seem to be struggling so far, but they were a little slow last year too.  The sugar...well, it's getting hard to tell them from the howden volunteers at this point. 

Additionally, we have 3 jack be little pumpkins, and half a dozen more ready to bloom, all on the same vine.  Planted for my daughter.  Apparently they don't follow the rule of thumb of one per vine at a time.  If the other 2 vines start producing, I could have a LOT of those.   

Tomatoes have EXPLODED with the heat.  The early girl is well taller than me, probably 7' normally they get about 4' here.  The romas have overgrown their trellis width wise, again, not normal for here.  Even my pepper plants are freakishly tall this year at near 4', but this had caused them to lay down, not normal either.  Notes for next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on July 27, 2013, 05:42:49 AM
Cool!

What of the aphid plague? Were generations of ladybugs able to defeat them?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 27, 2013, 07:29:53 PM
Plague levels are not present in the immediate area around the home, but I haven't gone for a walk to see how far it's extended. 

My parents' place (20 miles) saw a similar plague, so I think it's epidemic to northern utah.  She followed my lead in releasing a hoard of ladybugs, but the topography is much more difficult there, untended hillside behind them, much more foliage.  Still, their yard is at least mostly clear.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 28, 2013, 05:13:26 AM
You know I had a dream once of ladybugs used for de-infestation of aphids: I imagined the Aphid's were all a bunch of Saxon farmers or something similar, or just medieval farmers/fishermen living off the plants and then the LadyBugs released come on HandShips and then go plundering and murder, massacre the aphids like savage little vikings. It was quite hilarious, and frightful at the same time. When you imagine a ladybug wearing a 7th iron helmet wielding a battleaxe killing aphids brutally I think there is something wrong with you... haven't checked into a psychiatrist about it yet  ;lol


Also on the note of de-infestation, my neighbours have their own farms and one of them has a potato and cabbage patches and they like using spiders to help with that. Spiders are used quite a bit for farming here I notice, is it like that in your country/Utah?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 28, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
I wish.  Most of the useful spiders have been eradicated in the residential areas, thanks to the whole 'eek spider' sentiment.  They are not cultivated like ladybugs, lacewings, and various other beneficials, though. 

I am going to try to go round up some egg sacks in the fall and try to reintroduce some orb weavers to our property.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
I don't comment much on the gardening stuff, not least because of some unfortunate childhood experiences, but:

It's really admirable that you take the trouble to learn about, and implement, a more natural balance in your gardening.  Manufactured chemicals are all around us to a very unhealthy degree, and ought to be a last resort in, at least, the production of food.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on July 28, 2013, 10:32:25 PM
Chemicals are a good short term solution: If you have a horde of locusts and a lack of natural predators in say a third world nation it is necessary to use mass scale pesticides to help turn the tide and help bolster your crop production. But once that is done you want to immediately start introducing some local, natural ways and local creatures (key term: Local, invasive species can just be as bad if not worse then over abundance of chemicals) to deal with pests the better; because eventually the pests start adapting to the toxins and we don't. Our health deteriorates and we have pests who are much harder to kill.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2013, 11:06:56 PM
Sure, and bugs, having somewhat shorter generation than we do, adapt to the poison a teeny bit faster.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 29, 2013, 12:33:22 AM
Scored a couple pumpkins with my kid's names, as I do each year.  These turn into scars as the thing grows. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZaiGRvNT6Vg/UfWo1dukLqI/AAAAAAAASf4/i4-fRkDJ1xE/s640/IMG_0100.JPG)

The Jack Be Littles climbing the fence.  One's hidden by the pipe there, but there's 4 and counting. 
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GtqSjTEoSmM/UfWo13_-LqI/AAAAAAAASfc/qaIA2YH2ua8/s800/IMG_0101.JPG)

One of the french pumpkins, I THINK this is a Musquee...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-unWDkAaemIE/UfWo2J1tL6I/AAAAAAAASfY/ZtCwBJtz9Es/s800/IMG_0102.JPG)

Which would make this the best cinderella we've ever grown.  But, honestly, I'm just guessing on the french ones. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P8Jv9FcqHJA/UfWo2hkDjRI/AAAAAAAASfg/PBCcWYQfxzA/s800/IMG_0103.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 29, 2013, 01:15:14 AM
Got asked when the countdown is going up...


Some in the neighborhood appreciate me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 29, 2013, 01:18:38 AM
We do in this neighborhood.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 30, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
So, after eating our second round of corn last night, I think I have a full review for King Kool corn:

We saw approximately 50% emergence from the seed planted.  We were within the minimum temps listed, but barely.  Unfortunately, I didn't have enough seed for a second planting to see how much that impacted emergence. 

Stalks grow to 5-6' tall, as listed, and are a little more sparsely leaved than most corn, which helped them withstand the wind.  2 ears per stalk.  Tassling starts at 4' tall, and the pollen emitted is coarse and abundent, covering everything in a visible dust.  Bees acted near drunk on it. 

EXCELLENT polination of ears in our garden.  We are at the bare minimum 4 row depth for corn, and normally see a little more sparsely developed ears.  Kernals were a little on the smaller side than most corn, but pretty flavorful.  Not the best SH2 corn I've ever had, but very good none the less.  Better raw than cooked (as most SH2 corn). 

Uno's allergic reaction meter:  mild-average.   



Bug update: 

The squash bees are starting to rebound from the spraying.  It's time for another round of Neem oil.  We have adolescent hoppers present now, not damage worthy numbers, but worth noting.  Trying to explain to the kids why fireflies aren't glowing any more.  Squash bugs seem to be moving into the depths of the corn, where it's difficult to spray/crush.  This is a compromise I can live with, as it's away from the main vines of the pumpkins, it'll kill a runner, but not the plant.  Set up some traps with the farmer friend, going to catch and reintroduce some tachinid flies which have been absent since the spraying.  Then the squash bugs can't run so easy.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 30, 2013, 10:10:58 PM
Bug mini update. 

Pepsis wasp confirmed, trapped on my desk right now...debating on whether to have it sting me or not...


It is considered the most painful sting in the insect world.  I can personally attest that it is a most unique pain that will immobilize whatever limb gets stung for a few hours whilst making you able to think of nothing but the pain. 

Why:  Injury of years ago, both thumbs dislocated, and there's some lingering damage there and tendonitis/pain on a daily basis.  The first pepsis wasp sting, an accident, left me pain free, so remarkable, I purposely got the other arm stung that night.  I was pain free for a couple years after.  The pain is not at the original levels, but is coming back.  I've tried bee sting therapy to no avail...I just don't know that I'd be able to drive myself home if I get this thing to sting both my arms... 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 30, 2013, 10:14:25 PM
Dang Uno, you bring the strange when you're not even trying.  ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on July 30, 2013, 10:32:38 PM
Can't you put it in a jar or something and 'treat' yourself when home (taking the jar hlme of course)?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2013, 02:35:09 AM
I dont really have those kinds of things at work.  It's on my board, just couldn't bring myself to treat right there.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
So, the sign question actually has me in a conundrum. 

Sign v 1.0, aka what crap I could find in the shed from the previous owner:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YJJT2Lo2h-Y/SKWNHsB1S4I/AAAAAAAABJE/E059sFNrzW0/s800/post-11-1159032320.jpeg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yJyl1LxtY_A/SKWNie0taGI/AAAAAAAABJM/9tpScuPcIc4/s800/post-11-1159072018.jpeg)

It was unique at the time.  Not many people (I won't say no one, but I hadn't seen any even online, yet) were doing count down signs, and NO ONE around here for sure. 

Of course it was hardly waterproof, and you couldn't really read it at night. 

Sign 1.5 was meant to solve that problem:

Wooden number placards and a blacklight fixture made it much more weather resilient.  However, the wear and tear on the wooden placards coupled with UV deteriorating the fluorescent paint on the numbers made it a pain to upkeep. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VbebSrHojQY/SKWOboYUDOI/AAAAAAAABJU/e90FfZT-Y2o/s800/post-11-1189992956.jpeg)

Sign V2.0, 2.5, and 2.8:

2.0 and 2.5 were actually built together.  Meant to be a little more adaptive than the previous signs, we made chalk boards.

Home made fluorescent chalk let the numbers show at night, with our familiar blacklight fixture. 

2.0

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZvBJEzAYjAc/TFjd5IkjHEI/AAAAAAAAHhw/lG6G9jGhG7U/s800/_IGP0451.JPG)

2.5, larger, "announcement" sign.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N-FYcWFbMcw/TKFTrDt0bYI/AAAAAAAAH00/NciYCra9_4E/s800/IMG_5266.JPG)

2.8  VERY large board. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rBjgQVB4SPo/UHt8xVftdQI/AAAAAAAAOJ4/8nLJb1tvXwU/s800/IMG_6557.JPG)

Of these, 2.8 is still around, the others, chalk board paint prooves to be less than resilient to the abuse I subject things to, and while regular re-coating kept them up, weather finally killed off 2.0 and 2.5 last year.  2.8 also suffers any time we have a good bit of wind, and it's some kind of miracle it's still alive. 

What do I do with sign 3.0?   

It's clear I want something resilient to weather and more adaptable than just a number board. 

I've been giving some thought to these led chalkboards:  http://www.flashadboard.com/02_gallery_a.html (http://www.flashadboard.com/02_gallery_a.html)

Now, at $100+ for anything over a desktop size, that means making one myself.  The trouble I'm having is whether or not they need to be UV LEDs/liquid chalk or if more mundane options would also work. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 31, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
v 1.0 seems the most "Uno" look to me; perhaps something in that line with the backlit bits replaced by some sort of reflectors/florescent paint, and a spotlight aimed back from a fore jack o' lantern illuminating the rest?  You could get nice night effects and legible countdown numbers with the spot being black light, couldn't you?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on July 31, 2013, 06:06:36 PM
That light is pretty cool on 1.0. 

If I wanted to keep that, I'd have to wash the board with a blacklight then shine the spot with a regular light.  The numbers would still glow but the jack face would light up as well.  The way to do this would really to get a dedicated spotlight, maybe one of the solar powered lawn stake type, and apply a stencil to the front of it. 

Which really doesn't help with the board itself.  I'm liking this lightboard idea, just for the utility. 

I ran a quick and dirty test with some...let's say coasters...a Dioder disk pack from IKEA I've had set aside for the lemonade stand from hell for about 7 years, and a wet erase crayon. 

It would appear that UV LEDs are not required. 

1/4" plexiglass at 24" square is $26:  http://www.delviesplastics.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DPI&Category_Code=Clear_Acrylic (http://www.delviesplastics.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DPI&Category_Code=Clear_Acrylic)

Lighting...A dioder strip pack would run another $30, but there's other things on the market these days.  A electric supply place down the street has basically tape strips of LEDs.  Doubt the power supply would be weather tolerant though.  Sylvania Mosaic lights would be ideal, gotta price check those. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2013, 02:27:20 PM
Unidentified shield bug this morning.  High on the ambrosia corn, which might link it to corn, pumpkins, or beans.  Went for the camera, but it left before I got back.  I always walk by the garden on my way to the car.  Didn't get the best look at it, a little strange shape.  I'll be digging through some this morning for an ID. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
Well, [poop].  Lucky me.  Bug arrives in Utah in January and guess who gets it first year? 

http://www.thegrower.com/news/Marmorated-stink-bug-makes-itself-at-home-in-Utah-187885691.html (http://www.thegrower.com/news/Marmorated-stink-bug-makes-itself-at-home-in-Utah-187885691.html)

I'm not 100% certain without a pic/sample to check for the specific band on the antenna, but a very real possibility, would also explain why I couldn't ID it right off. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 01, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
No predator?

-I think the cuss filter may not be working - I just had to edit something of my own that should have been caught...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
relatively recent asia import...not likely. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 01, 2013, 05:00:14 PM
Like I say, without a specimen or picture, I can't really be sure.  All "true bugs" get real hard to identify as there are a LOT of similarly marked species.  Especially when you get down to the shield bugs.  Not all of them are even pests.  I've been mostly focused on bees/wasps for the last 20 years, so I'm not up to speed on what all is here in Utah either.  I know it wasn't a common stink bug, but that's about it.  Might have been a soldier bug predating on the squash bugs, even.  I'd have to check for a tiny spine in that case...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2013, 02:53:50 AM
Wow.  BAPTIST missionaries.  That's a new one.  Musta thought they walked into Lucifer's house itself, with all the half finished projects in the front room tonight.  Hasty exit. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 02, 2013, 03:05:12 AM
Was it funny or just sad?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
I find it humorous how it catches these kinds of folks totally off guard.  THEN they walked toward the neighbor's and saw Fred the scarecrow all crucified...yeah, I'm on a southbound train.  Might need to watch for vandals tonight. 

Though I'd have to hand it to anyone that managed to move Fred at all.  Had a group of teens try one year.  I watched them for 10 minutes before speaking up.  His support runs several feet down. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 02, 2013, 04:03:01 AM
Do you have to keep a regular watch over 'projects' standing in the garden?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 02, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
Not usually.  Most the local teens are on my side.  The year round projects are typically safe.  I do tend to stand guard from the time all the pumpkins are out. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 03, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
Why Are Things Creepy? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEikGKDVsCc#ws)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 03, 2013, 06:08:46 PM
Huh.  I would have said it was because of you. ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 03, 2013, 06:12:52 PM
Nah, can't blame the toothy grin on UnO.  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 03, 2013, 06:19:23 PM
I just did.

Hey Uno, check out the Pulpomizer thread.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 05, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
Have they updated it?  Last time I tried to use it, it was cumbersome. 

Anyway, in case you all hadn't noticed, I've been mostly playing it rather casual re: halloween this year.  Er, casual for me.  Part of that is by design. 

2 major things happening this fall.

1.  We're heading to the mouse ears the first week of October.  This really changes the October dynamic for my time. 

2.  My daughter has already enterred the Chinese program.

Spent most the weekend trying to get the damn thing working on the laptop. 

I'm not sure how widespread this is in the nation, but here in Utah, this is a BIG deal.  Most districts have at least one immersion school, various languages.  The idea is to have them learn half the day in a foreign language from 1st through high school.  They would graduate high school with a minor in said language. 

Of course the district wants a commitment from US to stay in the program through highschool.  They currently only have the funds through 6th grade...

Virtually all the state's budget is tied into setting these up, the schools that get the program get that extra money, etc.  Oh, it's "Optional".  Sure.  As explained to us, there's 3 chinese classes Tali's age, and one normal class.  But, they're shuffling all the 'problem' children into the normal class, but you can still opt to send your child there, or to another school that has less funds and you have to arrange transportation. 

Anyhow, the chinese program comes with added responsibilities for us, especially first grade.  She's started homework already, 2 weeks before school starts.  She goes to school a full week early, and that first week is 9 hour days crash course in 100% chinese.     
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
How does that work without Chinese-speaking teachers?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 05, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
We're importing teachers.

Started a couple years after Alec started school, so they now have teachers through the 4th grade.  Each year, they'll fire a couple local teachers and hire some chinese ones.  Real economy boost. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Hmmm.  I do see a problem, there...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 05, 2013, 07:50:02 PM
LONG term, the idea is that we'll create jobs for these Chinese speakers.  There is actually a fairly decent beginnings of a Utah/China economic partnership already. 

There are also spanish, french, and portuguese immersion schools, we're just 'lucky' to be the chinese pilot program. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
Nothin' wrong with the idea, of course.  This could do a lot of good.

I just hope they work out the details sensibly, and sensibly is never the way to bet when it comes to public education.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 05, 2013, 09:48:29 PM
So, when can we expect the youn'uns from Utah changin' the colors of the State?  ;yang;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 05, 2013, 10:14:58 PM
Well, there's quite a few more of the spanish immersion schools, I figure they're just doing that as an excuse for all the borderhoppers anyway.

Kinda wish we lived in one of those districts.  At least then when she's a teenager I'd know what she's calling me when she mouths off. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 05, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
 ;lol
Nobody forbids you to follow a course too, you know?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 06, 2013, 01:55:40 AM
One of my wife's friends lived in California when her teenagers were growing up. There was a language requirement, and 2 out of three chose American sign language.  It's not that the kids said anything bad about their Mom, but they knew they could drive her crazy by signing to each other in her presence.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 03:53:51 AM
In some households making voodoo dolls out of corn husks with the kids would probably be strange. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jGypQXysIyc/UgBjSyVUiHI/AAAAAAAASiM/RVnJWCroM9g/s800/IMG_0027.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 03:55:01 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 03:59:07 AM
Debating whether I want to actually use them or not.  Letting them dry out to see.  Not like I don't have enough corn husks. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 04:04:55 AM
Did one of the kids do that one, or you?  It's nice, but I'm a lot more impressed if Talia did it...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 04:09:25 AM
Not sure, honestly.  Just a random one out of the pile. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 04:12:23 AM
Got any pictures of Talia making one?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 02:33:21 PM
So, after eating our second round of corn last night, I think I have a full review for King Kool corn:

We saw approximately 50% emergence from the seed planted.  We were within the minimum temps listed, but barely.  Unfortunately, I didn't have enough seed for a second planting to see how much that impacted emergence. 

Stalks grow to 5-6' tall, as listed, and are a little more sparsely leaved than most corn, which helped them withstand the wind.  2 ears per stalk.  Tassling starts at 4' tall, and the pollen emitted is coarse and abundent, covering everything in a visible dust.  Bees acted near drunk on it. 

EXCELLENT polination of ears in our garden.  We are at the bare minimum 4 row depth for corn, and normally see a little more sparsely developed ears.  Kernals were a little on the smaller side than most corn, but pretty flavorful.  Not the best SH2 corn I've ever had, but very good none the less.  Better raw than cooked (as most SH2 corn). 

Uno's allergic reaction meter:  mild-average.   



Ambrosia corn review: 

Very good emergence and vigor from the seedlings.  Near 100%.  We were well above the minimum temerature threshhold at planting. 

Stalks grow 6-8' tall and are densely leaved.  Coupled with a relatively soft stalk, this led to many problems with the wind.  However, the plants would knock down, then pop right back up.  After the beans grew enough to start climbing, the wind problems stopped (thank you thee sisters planting).  Tasseling starts at 5-6' height, and the pollen is very fine, nigh invisible and profuse.  Bees took notice, but not with the same zeal as the King Kool. 

Average polination for the garden setting, ears showing definite holes at times, expected from a garden planting of corn.  Very small kernels, but LOADS of them per ear.  The boss couldn't differentiate between this SE corn and the King Kool SH2 corn.  I'm a bit of a corn snob, myself.  This was a very sweet SE corn, but has a slightly more buttery flavor to King Kools sweet flavor.  Coin toss whether better cooked or raw as little change in flavor either way.

Uno's allergic reaction meter:  High-severe.  I'm wary of the time it comes to chop this down. 



Bug update: 

The french pumpkins are in a bad way.  I'm more certain that new unidentified bug is that marmorated asian baddy.  Something's eating on them, in addition to the squash bugs and the protracted heat, the french vinces are struggling.  I've got to milk them out at least another month. 

So, we chopped down the king kool corn.  It's stopped producing ears, bundled it up to dry.  This let us have better access to the french vines for better coverage of neem oil, but opens them up to more heat.  If they fail this year, I'm giving up on the french varieties.  They struggled last year as well. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
FWIW, the last 4 weeks, i've eaten little outside of corn, lettuce and tomatoes...sometimes some bacon to make a blt. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 06, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
FWIW, the last 4 weeks, i've eaten little outside of corn, lettuce and tomatoes...sometimes some bacon to make a blt.

Sounds like that stem cell burger is something for you?  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
He expressed willingness.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 06, 2013, 03:24:45 PM
He expressed willingness.

Today in the newspaper, I read the 'volunteers' didn't find it bad. A bit too lean perhaps.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 03:28:33 PM
I've expressed unwillingness.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 06, 2013, 03:30:07 PM
AFAIK, you're not a vegetarian?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 03:31:38 PM
More like a carnivore.  I just don't like the taste of "food products".
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
He expressed willingness.

Today in the newspaper, I read the 'volunteers' didn't find it bad. A bit too lean perhaps.


"It's texture is almost like meat but without any juice to it" (paraphrased) is the comment that stuck out in the video I watched.  I stick to my comment it would probably be fine in, say, a taco or similarly seasoned type dish, but not as a burger. 

I used to be full on vegetarian all summer each year.  As long as the garden keeps supporting it, I have no real desire to meatify.  Going to the store every day or two for fresh produce is just a pain in the ass or I'd rarely eat meat. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 04:10:19 PM
There is some dark part of me that really wants to troll the neighborhood by putting this thing out...

http://www.yardinflatables.com/Scarecrow-Holding-Pumpkin_p_1488.html (http://www.yardinflatables.com/Scarecrow-Holding-Pumpkin_p_1488.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 06, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
The idea of you even owning that is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 06, 2013, 06:02:08 PM
As for the neo-burger, they need somebody who likes meat  involved. I figure they need to adjust the fat content. Fat is flavor. Also, they need to culture a little beef blood, too, for color, moisture and flavor. Get rid of the beet juice. Perhaps replace the spice with some onion powder. It might taste like burger.

Then they'll have something that will make a stroganoff, shepherd's pie, meatloaf,  or chili, for example.
Or casseroles ( something I don't normally eat ).
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 06, 2013, 06:10:11 PM
The idea of you even owning that is pretty funny.

I can almost hear the collective WTF just thinking about buying and displaying that.  I mean, neighborhood kids bring new people around just to see the 'cool stuff', if THAT was in it's place in early October... ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 07, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Mostly just playing with the new point and shoot.  It's now pre-dawn when I leave for work, so trying it out in the twilight with no flash. 

The previous scoring has turned into nice scars. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o-lnbo_S77s/UgJFyFQ9stI/AAAAAAAASi8/aAt-u1xeOgY/s800/IMG_0030.JPG)

Squash bee working this early as well.  (they will actually sleep in the flowers and come out in the wee hours of the morning, before the honeybees wake)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E40cbNikJ9A/UgJFyLHGUfI/AAAAAAAASjA/mJH9CY0O0iM/s800/IMG_0029.JPG)

One of the two known luminas.  There's likely more I can't see. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AXw7b5kg-LU/UgJFzNhaiOI/AAAAAAAASjY/PjJi3p7hhmA/s800/IMG_0032.JPG)

Yes, we have squash bugs, and I've been fighting them, and most the plants are doing OK...the cinderellas, however, are not.  I struggled keeping the cinderellas alive last year, and we are again this year, the shock of bugs on top of the heat is just proving to be too much for them.  In a last ditch effort, we chopped the corn they were planted in/around to allow me to get a more thurough spraying of the patch.  This increases the heat problem for them, but hopefully will let me take out the bugs.  This was 2 days after I sprayed, first day after a thurough watering, and they are actually looking a little better.  I'm not going to say out of the woods or anything, but better, some of the leaves getting a bit of green back in them. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r61O_oxVumk/UgJFzM6wQSI/AAAAAAAASjc/PmoYf7mfqKs/s800/IMG_0033.JPG)


On an aside...

Marigolds as companion plants to keep away bugs:  ;lol  Back to nasturtium for me next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 07, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Nasturtium. I've eaten those, too.

Actually, that must look pretty good planted with pumpkins.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 07, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
You guys would enjoy if I posted about my big April-May RL project, turning the mess of carolina moonseed that grew in Mylochka's back yard as a weed into an ornamental vine, wouldn't you?  I took pictures of my progress, and everything...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 07, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
Bug war update, the cinderellas are looking even better this evening when I got home, destroying hiding places, water competition, and a good covering of neem oil seems to have them on the run.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 07, 2013, 11:39:09 PM
Don't know why it's on TV now, but man did they butcher the remake of miracle on 34th street. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 08, 2013, 03:18:18 AM
You guys would enjoy if I posted about my big April-May RL project, turning the mess of carolina moonseed that grew in Mylochka's back yard as a weed into an ornamental vine, wouldn't you?  I took pictures of my progress, and everything...

Sure, but this isn't my thread.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 03:22:29 AM
It really deserves its own...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 04:18:44 AM
As far as I'm concerned it sounds like it falls under "random crap". 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 04:20:35 AM
But. but. but - it's Random Crap WithOUT Uno...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 02:24:22 PM
8, maybe 9 years now, I've cultivated a 'butterfly garden'.  We purposely let milkweed grow, and have planted a couple butterfly bushes near them in hopes of attracting Monarchs, since my kids have never gotten to see that whole transformation process.  Well, Kyle did when he was REAL young, but doubt he remembers. 

I was about to give up.  Saw a female over there last night.  Any luck, she'll be laying eggs this morning. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
And you end up with this guy in your backyard.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
Interesting thread over on the Halloween forum about how long the average person lasts. 

Seems 5-8 years is the average 'lifetime' of a haunter.  Then they typically move on, lose interest, either from neighborhood changes, income, age, etc.  Part of that is a LOT of haunters are teenagers, then the move into the real world.  Typically they'll start up again when their kids get interested, and once they move out again, it's done. 

Realized how sick I must truly be...I've been at it for 29 years now.  I started MUCH younger than the average.  I've been through every situation that typically discourages people.  Total lack of neighborhood interest.  Destruction of my stuff.  Income issues.  Everything. 

One of my fondest memories is the year I had ONE, singular, trick or treater at the old house.  This causes many to throw in the towel.  It's not QUANTITY, it's QUALITY.  Rather simplistic setup that year, actually.  Just me in a chair in ye olde gag of pretending to be a dummy.  Bowl on my lap with 'take one' sign.  Only child, about 5, not so nice neighborhood, both parents walking him around.  Dad walks up to me, declares it's just a dummy.  Mom don't believe him, so he spends a couple minutes SHINING A FLASHLIGHT right into my eyes trying to see inside my mask.  Pokes me with it, and says confidently just a dummy.  Kid comes up and grabs one and skips back to mom, dad still shining a light on me, then he turned. 

His wife come out of her skin when I got up, the kid bolted for home, and dad, seeing their reactions, ran, looking back at me, and smack into the fence.  We laughed about it, the kid's probably in therapy.  Great year.  If anything I miss the days when I had that kind of time per trick or treater.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 06:17:13 PM
Funny; I see parallels in the SMAC(X) community.  I mean, there's still a few guys from 14 years ago around, but you couldn't get them to get up and post something with dynamite, and it's rare that they're even good for a chat. 

For me, the community's never really given me the feedback I want/need on my game art -I spent years at a place where far too many people refused to believe I ever posted on-topic, let alone was a respected active modder- so I shifted focus to little jobs, witness the avatars, and community-building activity, to at least have people to talk to about SOMEthing, if not the game game art that wanting to discuss initially drew me into joining.

I'm rarely bothered about the frustration of my initial goal, so there is that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 08, 2013, 06:32:36 PM
It was the tale of the insect collection that gave me an insight into the Unorthodox persistence.

It's a legitimate super power!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 07:56:21 PM
Funny; I see parallels in the SMAC(X) community.  I mean, there's still a few guys from 14 years ago around, but you couldn't get them to get up and post something with dynamite, and it's rare that they're even good for a chat. 
Yeah, I can see that happening too.  I mean, I only joined that forum 3 years ago, and already I'm one of the oldest with few I can say have been around the whole time.  Most the ones that are still there are now merchants and will only post on their own product. 

Quote
For me, the community's never really given me the feedback I want/need on my game art

I see this a lot too.  Lord, some people get upset if folks don't post within minutes.  This is where the biggest burnout happens for Halloween too.  Kids start being rude and/or stop coming, and the interest dies. 

It's a position I can appreciate academically, but one I probably can never fully understand.  I'd be doing this if no one cared.  Hell Heck, I was for many years.  At the same time, I've come to appreciate places where people are interested, I wouldn't say it's a NEED. 

Another thing that I never understand fully is the people who get frustrated when they're not as good as someone else.  Lord, I can post a dozen people more talented than myself without trying.  Never understood the whole competition aspect some people get.  This goes with games, too.  Specifically demogames...wow do people take that a whole hell heck of a lot more serious than I do.  By damn dang, you better be playing according to game theory, which I rarely did, which really pissed peeved off people.   

That's one thing the AC games always did better, IMO.  Fun and roleplaying was always the priority.  Don't know why the two communities were different that way. 

Quote
-I spent years at a place where far too many people refused to believe I ever posted on-topic, let alone was a respected active modder- so I shifted focus to little jobs, witness the avatars, and community-building activity, to at least have people to talk to about SOMEthing, if not the game game art that wanting to discuss initially drew me into joining.

I'm rarely bothered about the frustration of my initial goal, so there is that.

See, that's something a lot of folks don't understand either.  Yes, ok, I'm the crazy halloween guy...but you have to build the community first.  I'm not generally this unapproachable recluse the rest of the year.  Take the new neighbors, I've had their kids catching fireflies, posing with the Barghest, playing with glowsticks, whatever.  When the wierd goes up, it doesn't take a sinister turn that way.  I'm not exactly a recluse the rest of the year.  You gotta put in the ground work.  Hell Heck, even the anti-halloween neighbors across the street have been getting killed with kindness.  Most neighbors happily ask what I'm working on now.  It's especially funny that the LDS neighbors are always shocked "how many non-members" come to my halloween party, as if it's some either-or type thing.  Maybe if they'd ya know, reach out to them outside their religion they might make some friends too.  (most just assume we're members since we don't openly practice anything against the church)

Good people first, hobby second.  It's why I'm here on a board I don't even have a working copy of the game.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Yeah; we're on the same wavelength here.


As far as the feedback issue - when I spend a lot of time making a thing, I'd like to TALK about the thing.  Because it's on my mind, not simply over the normal human desire for praise.  I'm, happy to say, not bothered that Kilkakon is a more accomplished graphic artist than I; you and he are both more accomplished in artistic areas I fancy I've mastered, but I've earned the respect that I've earned, and it's GREAT to have peers, more or less, to discuss these things with.

And, you know, I have my status in the community as a graphics teacher/troubleshooter to fall back on, though not even that with you and sculpture. [shrugs]  You put a lot more into it than I do.  Funny, though; I'm glad I really feel that way.  I honestly have to suppress my urge to get into peepee-measuring contests with people about a lot of things, and I'm glad I don't need to with you.

(I figured out how to hide the "Administrator" tag, BTW! :danc:)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
Speaking of artsy.  What's up with the masks?   

I put WAY TOO MUCH into it last year.  I look back on the monstrous time investment Trevor was and...

well, honestly I want to make a version of transi de rene de chalon
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2XWKWHpGgRg/TrH-QfNR8aI/AAAAAAAAKfE/xnTVU6GFcJk/s800/aoa0028_restauration.jpg)

...for no other reason than the challenge of it.  I just gotta remind myself I can't do that all the time. 

I mean, seriously, I would never actually USE that...but I could sure sell it in a heartbeat.  Which if I ever build something like that again, it will be to mold and produce. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
[shrugs] Hard to be sure it wouldn't be worth doing just to do the art (and don't even front that that's not a thing for you).

As far as masks, I coincidentally happened to be looking through my stuff with my sister for that binary stuff you make the rubbery yellow push molds out of (for making soles for doll shoes, and didn't find it), and we talked about taking the tools and supplies back to Texas with us when we go shortly.  Buster's birthday present is over a month overdue; going to sculpt her a Boston Terrier head.  And I'm still thinking about that Neanderthal skull, and she was talking about taking another run at online selling. 

So soon, maybe.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Yeah, it was hard to not start one after we went to the mummy exhibit.  Just for the fun of it.  (can't remember if I mentioned we got in and took pictures but I can't post them)  But, Trevor has been the source of frustration for many.  I know of a dozen copycats that have given up trying to replicate it.  Know of none that have succeeded, yet.  Well, unless you count the Davis Graveyard knockoff...which I don't, even they hid it in the back of their display.   

A cheap vacuform product would sell like hotcakes. 

Then, the same goes for the chimera.  At least a dozen attempts after posting my tutorial...still waiting on the first completion. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
You know a thing lately that ROCKS MY WORLD?  We've actually got a bench four-deep of competent artists working modding these days, (all but Kil, taught by me), and several of them are interested in stuff besides their own projects.  I've been doing this and teaching with considerable success for four years, and this has never happened before.  Any art job Jarl or Sigma does for anyone is pressure off me, and I still have some pride of accomplishment.

 :danc:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 10:16:05 PM
Yeah, I haven't figured how to translate the teaching part to the interwebs yet.  I got a couple local apprentices, but the interwebs...something is getting lost in translation.

You made me nearly competant at photoshoppery.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 10:31:40 PM
[shrugs] I thought you did mad tutorials - I'm sure I've seen some.

I bet it's the RL aspect - I can say Filters>Enhance>Sharpen, and that means something.  Not like how to shellac the burlap on the frame...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 08, 2013, 10:34:32 PM
Maybe.  If my process wasn't so disjointed I could probably do a video, but I bounce around too much to have that make any sense without serious editting. 

Though the BYOB tutorial has gotten quite a few skeletons made....most of them have been for anatomy classes...poor kids.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 08, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
You know a thing lately that ROCKS MY WORLD?  We've actually got a bench four-deep of competent artists working modding these days, (all but Kil, taught by me), and several of them are interested in stuff besides their own projects.  I've been doing this and teaching with considerable success for four years, and this has never happened before.  Any art job Jarl or Sigma does for anyone is pressure off me, and I still have some pride of accomplishment.

 :danc:

That is pretty cool 8) ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 08, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
Yes.  Oh my goodness, yes.

It's like realizing you've built a forum from nearly nothing...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 09, 2013, 04:36:34 PM
Strong wind out of the east last night.  This is the same scenario that tore off our roof.  Winds out of the east are rare, but powerfull, thanks to the geography. 

Didn't get to that damaging level.  Few treebranches down here and there.  The corn held up pretty well.  That field corn, som of it is leaning, but not knocked down.  Hoping it bounces back. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 09, 2013, 06:06:40 PM
Strong wind out of the east last night.  This is the same scenario that tore off our roof.  Winds out of the east are rare, but powerfull, thanks to the geography.

A line of trees on the eastside of your house (to break the wind) isn't possible?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 09, 2013, 06:11:57 PM
He's in the 'burbs - no room for that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 10, 2013, 01:47:33 AM
I definitely want a shade tree or three out front (east).  I'm looking into getting the local gambel oak actually.  Most houses around here kept some in the yard, mine was clear-cut for an orchard long before the house was built (and then the orchard chopped and burned to clear the house, according to the neighbors trying to scare me one of the workers died in the orchard bonfire).  I could make something resembling a forest with the gambel oak...dream setting. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 10, 2013, 01:54:44 AM
Wind still going today.  Come home to find a couple more monarchs over in the butterfly garden. 

Unfortunately the wind was blowing it around too much for a good pic.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qaV0Z1YKl6E/UgV_Tw8sPrI/AAAAAAAASk8/I223x7r8CyQ/s800/IMG_0043.JPG)

Butterfly garden.  All that milk weed, the little purple flowers are nectar factories for food, known as a butterfly bush, there's another on the other side of the fence just left of the pic. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CafG7qIMdxM/UgV_Ro4n0QI/AAAAAAAASkA/PtjJ21WKXxM/s800/IMG_0036.JPG)

The butterflies were flitting in the wind to try to find shelter.  I went inside to get some containers, going to bring them in for the night, went back to find one smashed on the fence, and no sign of the others, so shifted to inspecting the milkweed. 

Long legged fly.  Probably not a good enough pic to make a more specific identification.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6fPAm3ueyoU/UgV_TFg53XI/AAAAAAAASk4/iJO7Eqz8Pxg/s800/IMG_0041.JPG)

But, what I was looking for...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zg71oXXGybo/UgV_UqY3eSI/AAAAAAAASlY/5cegH7cZq60/s800/IMG_0045.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6FMdrBJW6XM/UgV_Up4a3QI/AAAAAAAASlU/0ACGaMwO848/s800/IMG_0046.JPG)

I'd need to magnify to be 100% but fairly certain those are monarch eggs.  Several more had either already hatched or been eaten. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 10, 2013, 02:02:38 AM
Sign of how bad the heat/drought have been this year. 

Spring, these dianthus usually survive the weather great.  That's an arizona flower in the back, picked for drought hardiness.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0hVtYXmJolE/UbXPPruuiJI/AAAAAAAASOk/o6eFgnmhlJo/s800/IMG_0050.JPG)

The dianthus have all withered.  Only the arizona flower remains. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RmtcGIJGSsg/UgV_R4cx1jI/AAAAAAAASkQ/kNXju7hyp9A/s800/IMG_0035.JPG)

Audrey II coming up out of some Utah Wildflowers, planted for the bees.  Nasturtium around the base as well. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uVGyWP9gbX0/UgV_UtX3iWI/AAAAAAAASlw/UH77k1yAEZg/s800/IMG_0044.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 10, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
Well, had a lot of tomatoes this morning, decided to make some salsa.  Went down to the little fruit stand because I needed an onion. 

I know it's been a rough year, but I had no idea how good I was keeping up.  Their tomatoes looked awful, as did the peaches, beans and potatoes.  Onions, corn, and melons were the only things really doing well from what I saw.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 10, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Odd.  Last month we had the, to my knowledge, all-time record for rain here in America, 13 inches and change.  That's probably related to the hopeless crapulence of my connection of late.  And it's been a very cool summer, with temperatures often only hot because of the sodden humidity.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 11, 2013, 05:25:09 AM
This morning, one of the eggs showing signs of life.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CbX0lX4kSnM/UgcRrgJkUzI/AAAAAAAASmQ/fb_1-FNN9DU/s800/IMG_0047.JPG)

This evening.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Dvv9ExNmZOc/UgcRsE3CaUI/AAAAAAAASmg/FQQceR7LyVk/s800/IMG_0054.JPG)



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 12, 2013, 01:00:01 AM
Sorry, BU, Kyle decided to have her cover her face.  You can see me on the right, Alec on the left, tonight's corn doll assembly line. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PClOx1MqxaU/UgglFeYADDI/AAAAAAAASnE/rNTpOocRcLs/s800/IMG_0055.JPG)

Alec makes the body, Tali makes the dress, I slap on the belt. 
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b6LdaxIpyh8/UgglFUZb9-I/AAAAAAAASnA/keKP2jOFeGQ/s800/IMG_0056.JPG)


No signs of life in the other egg...mom's been out all day laying more, so I brought a few more in.  Not all is doom and gloom, though, eggs typically take 3-5 days to hatch. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 12, 2013, 01:03:41 AM
Well, Talia still has an adorable ear, so that's not nothing.

What bothers me, you know, is that I think she looks like you more than her (cutie of a) mom - your face looks great on a girl her age, but I wonder what it'll look like in ten years.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:52:56 AM
Still first instar, but starting to darken up and show the characteristic stripes. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ngSWI2g3I8w/UgmfbmILdaI/AAAAAAAASnk/w0KKvkcbXOk/s800/IMG_0063.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
Uno, ol' buddy, ol' pal, ol' horror-title supuh hero - I got a job for you.  You can post news to the front page at WPC, yes?  I've got an item for you to post in AC for us, and promote to news article, if you're game.

Quote from: ete;12699502
On and off for the past few months I've been working on a wiki for Alpha Centauri, since I like wikis, building things, and Alpha Centauri. It's probably about time I announced it properly. Here it is (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Main_Page").

Currently it has:
A full set of datalinks, based on the datalinks update with many improvements by me, Guv'ner, and others.
An archive of factions (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Custom_factions") which currently contains 132 custom factions, searchable and categorized by everything from factions opposed to Police State (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Factions_opposed_to_Police_State"), through factions with a Planet bonus (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Factions_with_a_Planet_bonus"), to Progenitor (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Progenitor_factions") and factions with energy interest (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Category:Factions_with_energy_interest").
Information on the various unofficial patches.
A versioned set of core text files (alphax, helpx, etc).

Hopefully this will be of use to some of you. I know I've taken to referring to it when I need to quickly check some aspect of game mechanics or find an intersting faction to use in my next game.

My immediate plans are to finish off uploading all the custom factions I can get my hands on (about 20 to go, maybe another 3 hours work), then check through them fixing obvious issues and release a custom faction package. Feedback would be much appreciated during the checking and fixing stage (especially since part of the project will be putting factions into rough tiers of power, and identifying them/creating balanced versions of as many as possible), as would assistance with various extra organizational things (adding leader infoboxes for example). After that I will likely move my focus to either scenarios (mirroring alteria centauri and categorizing them with wikiawesomeness) or collecting strategy information, which we are notably lacking and it would be great to collect up.

Also, after hearing about the issues with a previous wiki which held much AC info and was lost, I've set it up so any user can make a full backup of content with just a few clicks using Special:Export, and have made recent backups myself.

If you like writing and organizing AC related things, come on over and play with the wiki! You'll be able to edit virtually any page using your AC2 account. Check out the to-do list (http://"http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/ACWiki:To-do_list") and see if anything looks interesting to you :)

~ete


Just that quote, if it will let you - add something like "This is certainly A Thing Worth Doing..." if not...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:34:48 PM
Front....page....? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:39:28 PM
Yeah...I'm not seeing a front page or how to get to it...

Click on banner, goes to forum.  Click on home, goes to forum.  Click on articles, goes to...not sure what that is.  Nor am I seeing a promote button. 

GOTM goes to an error page, FYI. 

Change browser address to just the AC2.info, goes to forum....you guys sure you PUBLISHED the front page? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 02:43:51 PM
Post it in the AC forum, at least.  You should have news-posting access - Articles is what we want.  It's all spammycast going back to February, so this is a + for WPC...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
Ok, found the front page, but it only seems accessible if I log OUT.  If I'm logged in, it just shuttles me to the forum home page. 


And it only loads on the WWW. ac2.info, not the http://ac2.info (http://ac2.info)

FYI. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
So, it's the "Articles" you want me to post in? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 02:46:50 PM
Yes.

I don't know why you're not seeing our Front Page - Home button takes you there, and Who's Online claims you spend time there...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:50:12 PM
Trying on chrome.  Only will show up if I log out there too.  Otherwise, it redirects me to the forum index. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
Ok, that quote is from the "Chiron News Network" latest post, there's two "publish" buttons there that are not normally on my posts, but both have facebook icons...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Go ahead and try to publish it to FB, too.

I don't remember from when I had access how the Articles thing worked, so no help there, but I did use it once or twice, and I remember not having all the trouble in the world figuring it out...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
Tried to post an article...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 02:59:39 PM
Facebook...no facebook from here, but it appears to want to post to my timeline.  I'm sure I'm not a member of AC2 facebook at any rate. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:00:29 PM
Okay.  Somebody at WPC will be cool, and approve it.

AC Forum post, too?

I assume WPC has a FB page, and it went there...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:05:32 PM
Found it.  https://www.facebook.com/pages/WePlayCiv/353565413147?ref=br_tf (https://www.facebook.com/pages/WePlayCiv/353565413147?ref=br_tf)

Hmm.  No posts since the Long Outage was going...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
Done.

The two "Publish" buttons show up there too, but both go to facebook.  From what I've seen from doing news in the past, one should normally go to the front page.  (which makes it so your news person doesn't have to type anything, just promote any post to the front page.) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:10:03 PM
I see you tried to publish to OUR articles.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.

No, here is taken care of.  I don't see anything at WPC.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
OH...hell.  Um...lemme see. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
;lol

Rough day?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Done..

Lemme see....if they haven't been doing their houskeeping I can get poly too. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:22:28 PM
Day hasn't started great, no. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:23:13 PM
Poly cleaned house.  Ah well.  Theirs was a pain anyway. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
[ninja'd]
Done..

Lemme see....if they haven't been doing their houskeeping I can get poly too. 
Don't.  I got 'poly, but there's something going on, and I don't know what yet.  You trying would look all wrong.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 03:25:09 PM
Logged into poly...had 2 unread PMs....from 2009. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
My post has either been eaten by tech problems, or I got a PM from Martin Gühmann coming - I pinged him with a link, since I should have been able to promote to Front Page myself, but got an error.

You got what we wanted up at WPC. ;b;
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 04:15:27 PM
ete says thank very much, but asks that you edit to make it a quote of him, so no confusion about who the author is.  Replacing it with a quote from the OP here http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=506502 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=506502) would be easiest.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 05:39:13 PM
I can't even log in over there anymore
 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
Edimitified. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 05:49:32 PM
Good man.  Thanks.  I don't know what I'd do without you and your support.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
Sorry for not being on the ball there.  Left the phone in the car (which is my alarm clock) so started the day off a little crappy (I still wake up in time to get to work without the clock), then we had a troll attack overnight I had to deal with over on the other forum. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
I'd be a lousy friend if I got sore about you being busy/having a bad brain day, wouldn't I?

I just feel a little bad about having to keep asking for more.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 13, 2013, 06:32:38 PM
On the lighter side, Talia's first day of school yesterday, I took her over to Walmart after for a treat (she LOVES their "chicken cup" popcorn chicken) and she spied "Halloween crunchy cookies!"  In Tali-speak, that's Reeses peanutbutter cups.  "The Halloween ones taste better."


Now, if Dots would put out their Halloween flavors again, I could get excited.  "Bat blood orange" dots are one of the better things I've ever had, candy wise.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 13, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
[smiles and nods]
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 01:51:11 AM
I'm having way too much fun with this stuff.  Going to have to shell out for a proper macro lens. 

I was excited to see the first monarch, I had no idea we would become grand central.  There were 4 flitting about the garden when I got home today.  Of note, they are a LOT more timid than they used to be (as in 20 years ago), used to be they become nigh oblivious when feeding, not so much these days.  Took a considerable amount of patience. 

Another female, fueling up for either laying or travel. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I9pOIdBg6F8/UgrRGDnOUtI/AAAAAAAASpY/zRmMPfM33JM/s800/IMG_0074.JPG)

I'll have to pull out a reference on this guy.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BoBQpusLq_4/UgrRGmOddOI/AAAAAAAASpk/bMiG8QbjkhI/s800/IMG_0076.JPG)

But he provides the perfect example of why the point and shoot is not going to work, no manual focus for macro just doesn't work:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8w1Bky-lzFI/UgrRHZ2WzFI/AAAAAAAASpw/bxzy1BkHmJw/s800/IMG_0077.JPG)

Honeybee.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UbFh5xzjiu0/UgrREQYFkUI/AAAAAAAASos/yGWxGO-tT2g/s800/IMG_0067.JPG)

Firefly

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kTUcvAXrzRU/UgrRD7fEbNI/AAAAAAAASog/A8ww7WFvu44/s800/IMG_0064.JPG)

Of course, it's not all happy bugs.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P1i0HEj3isg/UgrRHXrR8nI/AAAAAAAASqA/yYpjAL0zYpQ/s800/IMG_0078.JPG)


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 02:16:09 AM
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=4079 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=4079)

(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/H7oqRv2EQK.sJVLccXJSOQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTUzOTtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz01NzU-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/LiveScience.com/monarch-butterfly-milkweed.jpg1376419174)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 02:37:56 AM
edit: wrong thread
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 02:39:59 AM
I'll get you for that, Dr. Venture!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 02:51:19 AM
http://monarchjointventure.org/about-us/ (http://monarchjointventure.org/about-us/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 03:17:15 AM
(http://venturefans.org/w/images/8/82/MonarchMonologues.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 04:58:59 PM
Wiggles, Day 4.

Talia:  "I didn't know he was going to change COLOR!!!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WnzZpJXA69Q/UgultOayjnI/AAAAAAAASq4/7f6HxguCoBk/s800/IMG_0083.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 05:02:15 PM
:D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 08:35:45 PM
See, I knew this was going to happen. 

They want me to be the regional expert for Utah, as they have had reports from a bunch of ignorant people that need someone who might know a thing or two and can teach folks here. 

Take a few pics, use scientific names in your report, and they think you're an expert.  I have a very basic knowledge of butterflies (compared to my wasp/hornet/bee knowledge), but really don't want this to be a chore. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
Sorry 'bout that.  Tell them to put a grad on it.

A grad working on it is your real goal, anyway.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 14, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
It's the U of Minnesota running the research though.  Weber State (right in my back yard) and U of U (SLC) are tapped out in their departments. 

BYU (hour+ drive south) has a CLUB, and USU (hour+ drive north) has an "agricultural science" dept.  Maybe I could get someone in one of those to sign up. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 14, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
Yes.  What I'm telling you has to do with something I do all the time here at AC2, and it works - doing every little thing yourself is a mugs game, if you can avoid it; persuading those appropriate to the task to take it on is often a better use of your time, and when you get good at the persuasion, a lot more gets done.

Tell them what's in it for them...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 15, 2013, 12:04:54 AM
Wiggles is molting.  Can't move it for pics. 

Stripes and Chompy are getting ready to hatch. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2013, 12:07:43 AM
"Somebody could have been writing grant proposals for a Western Monarch study long before this."

-Tell 'em that.  (The entomologists, not Wiggles & co.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 15, 2013, 03:10:19 PM
I'm avoiding that thread like the plague.  hEt's mom, dad, my mom, my grandma all has teh cancer.  (though my grandma seems to be all but impervious to it, had "aggressive" cancer for 15 years now, no treatment, just giving it the bird)  Pulled the plug on 3 people now, on board to do so for 4 more.  Stiff upper lip and all that.  More likely I have some very perverted emotional coping mechanisms that this stuff just doesn't hit me in a normal way. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 15, 2013, 05:42:09 PM
I have a pretty astounding webhost, I must say. 

Have been getting hit by some religious group all week, there's been 4 attempts at hacking the site, and the host caught each one and fixed immediately.  None of the hundreds of hate messages have made it live either.  Slowly blocking the various IP ranges used. 

It's certainly been one of those weeks...What did I ever do to Baptists in Louisianna anyway? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 15, 2013, 06:16:28 PM
I have a pretty astounding webhost, I must say. 

Have been getting hit by some religious group all week, there's been 4 attempts at hacking the site, and the host caught each one and fixed immediately.  None of the hundreds of hate messages have made it live either.  Slowly blocking the various IP ranges used. 

It's certainly been one of those weeks...What did I ever do to Baptists in Louisianna anyway?

I remember some post of you about a couple shocked missionaries on your doorstep, some weeks back?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 15, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
Yeah...it's crossed my mind.  But, I doubt they'd have my website address. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 15, 2013, 07:45:12 PM
Yeah...it's crossed my mind.  But, I doubt they'd have my website address.

They have church members in the NSA?
But seriously, if your website isn't there for just a select few, it can be found, and through the url located.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 15, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
I wonder if the Mormons wouldn't have your back - I know, but it's gentile activity in their community...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 15, 2013, 08:04:49 PM
Yeah...it's crossed my mind.  But, I doubt they'd have my website address.

They have church members in the NSA?
But seriously, if your website isn't there for just a select few, it can be found, and through the url located.
It's just not a very logical leap to hey, this guy is odd, let's go find out if he has a website and attack it.  My facebook would be the most logical place to strike for a local wanting to cyberbully, wouldn't it? 

I mean, later in the year I advertise the website, but not at the moment.  (I would have a countdown out already, but didn't want to put it out this year since we're going on vacation)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 15, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
Since when are 'deeply devoted' church people logical?  ;)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 16, 2013, 12:07:44 AM
Wiggles, now 2nd instar.  More recognizable to the untrained eye, more mobile, more hungry. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GcCQBM4U97w/Ug1bhVRMqEI/AAAAAAAAStU/Nl1nqNZ9vM8/s800/IMG_0120.JPG)

Stripes.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZNj2wkyzixc/Ug1biLk5LdI/AAAAAAAASts/Ef3D-iTGA2s/s800/IMG_0123.JPG)

Chompy

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2Ubu4NdS0Vo/Ug1bi7KGxrI/AAAAAAAASt8/oGayzsC3h30/s800/IMG_0125.JPG)

Dead/infertile egg.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_fCcd2kfybg/Ug1bceaCe_I/AAAAAAAASro/ihWbbI6ucRU/s800/IMG_0107.JPG)

4th egg was parasitised.  Something fast zipped out of the container. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 16, 2013, 12:10:39 AM
I will note both Chompy and Stripes are darker than 1st instar Wiggles, this is a potential sign of parasites, but too early to really make a judgement.  Might be they're just younger than my pic of Wiggles. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 16, 2013, 04:01:07 AM
Yeah...it's crossed my mind.  But, I doubt they'd have my website address.

It's just not a very logical leap to hey, this guy is odd, let's go find out if he has a website and attack it.  My facebook would be the most logical place to strike for a local wanting to cyberbully, wouldn't it? 

I mean, later in the year I advertise the website, but not at the moment.  (I would have a countdown out already, but didn't want to put it out this year since we're going on vacation)

Yes, I think your facebook would be the logical focal point of locals and people you know.

Couldn't somebody just do an image search and stumble across it? I presume there's rivalry between the holy haunts and the traditional. Even if somebody is only looking to steal ideas from the heathen haunts, or learn how to make a skeleton, that discovery could lead to you, couldn't it?  Then, when somebody else asks where they got the idea/learned how , etc.  the secret is out. Then, if you are judged to be evil , maybe they see it as God's work to persecute you.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on August 16, 2013, 05:13:49 AM
I still can't understand half of these religious nuts to be honest, bloody hypocrites and a shame to their own faith for doing such immature antics.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 16, 2013, 05:14:23 AM
Um, you'd be searching for some bizarre things to get my images in a search.  Typing "unorthodox halloween" into google will get you all sorts of me.  Beyond that "fred", "steve", "trevor", etc, are not exactly things one associates with halloween so are well down the image searches.  "Barghest" doesn't even trigger mine unless you add Chimera. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 16, 2013, 05:22:05 AM
Quote
more hungry. 
Like starving citizens at a base :D.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 16, 2013, 03:47:19 PM
So much for my search engine theory.

What about that photo contest . You sort of stick out there. Does it lead to your site?

Or your You tube how to?




Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 16, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
There will be no cross-site bemoaning in my thread, or I will up and dessert it. 


I don't do youtube how-to's mostly because my process is far too disjointed for video.  Best correlation would be my moderatorship on Halloweenforum, but there's little reason to single out ME there. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2013, 04:57:22 PM
Apologies.  I'll move the offence.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 16, 2013, 08:16:05 PM
I'm sorry.

I really have no credible explanation.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 16, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
It was nothing you said, Rust.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 17, 2013, 02:38:29 AM
Sorry, I come off a bit aggressive there, but at least some people respect limits. 


What a wonderful cap to a week from the abyss. 

Supposed to be off today, the entire reason I went in was to meet some idjits who never showed and I had to track them down. 

Then to top it off some uppity up in the research project called me a moron (politely).  Told me I needed to take their training class because they have no record of monarchs on this species of milkweed, at this elevation, temp, etc, and I likely had queen butterflies, not monarchs.  "It's an easy mistake for the untrained eye."  I sent them a few of the papers that have my name in them, tons of pics I've been documenting this, and told him he's welcome to come train me any time he wants, or he can start filling in the glaring hole that is Utah in his data.   

And now the Raiders look like total crap. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 17, 2013, 02:59:47 AM
I coulda done without the threat, but it's your thread, and that's all there is to it.  That's a sensible community tradition we should all consider ourselves bound to honor.

-Not that I'm not interested in discussion of the post where I moved it.


Must've been some satisfaction in being able to whip out your credentials on that uppity up...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 17, 2013, 03:58:36 AM
Ya caught me on a bad day, that's all.  Sorry bout that.  Like I said, at least you respect the limit, other's aren't so nice. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 17, 2013, 04:07:53 AM
So, open question. 

Set the butterflies free, or keep them overwinter?  (yes I can do that, and have)  Assuming we have a male/female we could even mate them in the spring...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 17, 2013, 04:10:55 AM
...I've already egged you on to making too much of a commitment...

You've certainly already done them bugs a solid.  Would it be worth it for edumacatin' the kids?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 17, 2013, 04:34:55 AM
You should do what you think is best given your circumstances. Seeing as to how I do not know all circumstances, that is best thing I can say.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2013, 02:17:38 AM
If I didn't have it on good authority it was legit, I would swear this whole thing is a scam.  They again have said I need to buy some tags that come with a nice training video and everything.  They can shove it. 

Anyhow, working on a light board, I think I got it nearly functional, maybe tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 18, 2013, 02:54:34 AM
If the monarchs overwinter in Utah, will they know which direction to migrate in the spring? 

Maybe that's a stupid question. If they're released at the right time they'll go the right direction, won't they?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2013, 03:39:59 AM
Well, this is the generation that migrates.  It's assumed that our population overwinters in California, but there's some anomalies that mean that may not be 100% true.

The migration sometimes takes several generations, and it's not really known how they know the way, nor why generations seem to have different purposes.  Migrating generations have shorter lives but stronger wings, overwintering populations live MUCH longer than the migrating ones, etc. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 18, 2013, 03:57:34 AM
Are you going to hove on without working with the upitty up scammers, or what?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2013, 04:00:41 AM
We've got forest fires all around us, ash falling from the sky, and this has inspired an arsonist in the town who has now set 10 more.  Awesome. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 18, 2013, 04:05:00 AM
I don't know. 

I went to my childhood collection site, and it wasn't a pretty sight.  There were a few signs that there may have been some caterpillars there once upon a time (caterpillar poop, yes, I can tell).  Then, there was a big release of monarchs today at a wildlife refuge, so mine just might be the tail end instead of the start.  So, we'll monitor what we got, if I see another big site, I'll do a check, but we'll set up to check earlier next year.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 18, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
So, open question. 

Set the butterflies free, or keep them overwinter?  (yes I can do that, and have)  Assuming we have a male/female we could even mate them in the spring...

Let them decide. Open up the caches. They'll find their way.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 03:53:06 AM
Sign 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIUP5XllkhQ#)


Not the best led setup, since the local costco stopped carrying the strips I wanted to use and this is what I could find.  Room to improve in the future. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 04:58:37 AM
Wiggles, as Talia puts it, "Getting Huge-er."

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TrNzWOTUuSc/UhGU3F-5lVI/AAAAAAAASug/ZTfg_bUNtT0/s800/IMG_0151.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 19, 2013, 05:26:39 AM
How long do you think until it becomes a pupa?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 19, 2013, 05:29:04 AM
Uno, I'm enjoying the new count-down board.

I'm also interested in the insect report. How are Chompy ( love that name  for  a caterpillar ) and the other one doing? Parasitized or not?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 06:03:55 AM
Chompy is living up to his name.  Unfortunately, Stripes didn't make it.  If I had to guess I'd say fungal infection, but don't really know too tiny for me to do a biopsy, I don't have so much as a decent magnifying glass.  He went a little bonkers, quit eating, just wanted to climb.  Whatever it was, it's a good thing I kept everyone quarantined in their own containers. 

Wiggles...lessee, he's older 2nd instar, should molt in the next day or two, then another several days as a 3rd instar, another day to molt, couple days as a 4th instar, molt, day or 2 as a 5th instar to find a site to make his cocoon.  A lot depends on temperatures.  Since I have them inside, it's a little slower than outside.  The typical collection is as a 3rd or 4th instar, and it usually only takes a few days from there.  (they are tiny and hard to find before that)   So, I'd say another weak or so. 

Chompy is getting ready to molt into 2nd instar. 

I need to find/make a new container for the 5th instars/chrysalis/adults though.  It's best to keep the adults overnight before releasing.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 19, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
I'm enjoying follow the wormy chronicles, too.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 03:42:21 PM

Let them decide. Open up the caches. They'll find their way.

It's actually not as easy a question as it sounds. 

Yes, if released they will start back towards California.  Or Mexico.  Not sure. 

If I have a male/female, however, it might be more responsible to overwinter them and produce a generation of monarchs in the spring.  In the controlled environment here, I could turn 2 butterflies into 30 or so. 

30 released in June here, any offspring would have a head start on most the predators. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 04:07:13 PM
Farming news.

Stopped by the farm I collect corn stalks from on the way in this morning.  The overall thought was that this year, between my own corn, and his, I wouldn't need to go cut up reed grass this year.  Being that the reed grass makes me miserable thanks to allergies, it was a win-win. 

It's a small family farm, as in it feeds about 5 households for the year.  They can their stuff for the winter, and all.  Anyway, no corn.  No tomatoes.  Both vicims of the drought.  Instead he doubled up root crops that are more drought tolerant, try again next year. 

This is the 2nd or 3rd person I've hear struggling with corn and tomatoes this year.  I'm feeling pretty good about our setup as a result.  However, on the way in, I also heard that Pineview is cutting back to 50% irrigation.  This is my uncle's farm, which would be my pumpkins.  Hadn't checked how it's going there, they are fairly drought resistant just by location, and a cut back this late might not do a whole lot to the crop, stunt some growth maybe, but need to check on how it's going. 

Get here, I see my county has been declared a disaster area thanks to the drought.  Not sure what that means to farmers. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 19, 2013, 04:29:53 PM
I can assure you that water rationing and being in a severe drought are terrible. Especially since my fine city likes to issue fines and increase water rates for its residents during droughts.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 19, 2013, 06:27:22 PM
I'm not sure what that means to farmers these days either. It used to be that it simplified crop insurance claims, as there was no burden of proof for an insurable cause of loss. The other benefit was that there were emergency low-interest loans available, to get them through another season.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on August 19, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
And back in my day it meant that there'd be some more government spending on keeping farms irrigated/maintained. But the government has changed since then and there is barely any state support for the farms.

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 19, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Robust agriculture is a national security issue - I would have thought Putin would be more on top of it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on August 19, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Not as much as he should.

The current gov't BUncle is the United Russia party, which is a Nationalist party, not a Socialist one.

Though Socialist/Communist support is on the rise in my nation, so that may change soon. I live in the Red Belt and we've seen many Socialist leadership take over, and things ave been improving.
Do keep in mind that the New Socialist party and the Communist party would've gotten way more seats and probably political power if it wasn't for the corruption here: I can say that from personal experience. I ran for my local municipal election and I was on the council for a term, and then the next election comes, I get a good portion of the votes as expected but then holdup:

A recast of the votes is called because it is said there was an error, and what happens next? The unpopular United Russia candidate, who has some wealthy backers gets in and replaces me. And then certain businesses come in and start taking over, and you just see other local ones being closed down.

If that is not corruption I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 19, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
If that is not corruption I don't know what is.

October 2017, the Second Coming?  :o
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 19, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
Robust agriculture is a national security issue - I would have thought Putin would be more on top of it.
Being nationalist changes nothing in this...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on August 19, 2013, 08:53:52 PM
Being nationalist changes nothing in this...
Tell that to the nationalists.



Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Decisions...

Not long ago grabbed a pair of skeletons because I was in the right place at the right time, no real plan to use them (this year, I'm sure eventually...). 

Well, $40 ea.  As expected they sold out in a day, and are going in the local classifieds for $70+.  There will be more next year after all...


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 10:27:21 PM
Really hard this year...don't know that I'll ever schedule a vacation in October again, it's really got me all in knots. 

Got to get my consumables orders in a week earlier than normal, kinda messing with the whole budget in the process. 

I know I'm not really trying to build anything, by design, but just feels wrong. 

Probably start petering on something just because. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 19, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
What's this year's theme?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Theme?  Hah!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 19, 2013, 11:37:05 PM
To clarify, we don't generally do "themes" in the traditional sense.  It's the general harvest thing we've done since 2010.  Some minor changes here and there, kind of a round up of everything we've done to date. 

Wiggles, boss wanted size references.  3rd instar, FWIW. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IrkfLApipEY/UhKdL4kl86I/AAAAAAAASvc/Hzc0pVNyY8c/s800/IMG_0153.JPG)

Chompy, 2nd instar. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Wvue_dX8JGA/UhKdL4NjzEI/AAAAAAAASvg/vXNg9KWyEX0/s800/IMG_0155.JPG)

Talia's first picture. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SLym4_8ioQE/UhKdMsvsnrI/AAAAAAAASvo/aBLOqsauB10/s800/IMG_0156.JPG)

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2013, 12:08:32 AM
To clarify, we don't generally do "themes" in the traditional sense.  It's the general harvest thing we've done since 2010.
Are we not talking about Halloween anymore?  I thought we were when I asked...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
I'm gemini, I talk lots of things at once. 

But, what do you call this "theme"?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--B2kjaUNXao/UJCYPBjMoPI/AAAAAAAAOa8/di40LAc_BYk/s800/IMGP1480.jpg)

Add some candles, some skulls on stakes, maybe some voodoo elements as window dressing, and the Barghest. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2013, 12:11:32 AM
That would be harvest, sir.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 12:12:20 AM
I want the side to have that tunnel of corn I posted a pic of someone's yard earlier in the year...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 12:13:23 AM
Might drag out and throw in some of the "tombstones" from last year.  They are generic enough to be weird. 

The motors I bought may or may not work for a breathing grave, but I didn't want to start that till after. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 12:17:06 AM
Smattering of this tossed in...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RsRxbyAg7jc/SuusVKV6wZI/AAAAAAAAFMU/m36W4lis32M/s800/IMGP2282.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 12:19:43 AM
Don't know if I can bring the blacklight to them like here...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3PG8OgOhn_c/Tq_9oZeMH9I/AAAAAAAAKSk/tZK76b0_Bhw/s800/IMG_3231.JPG)

I think that's something to really think on for the future though. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
testing...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2013, 02:38:56 PM
Pass or fail?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 02:42:38 PM
step-drag-stumble-drool. 

It's running like crap cap'n! 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 02:47:43 PM
teh chrome aint much better. 


Back to school night last night.  Teacher says something to Tali, she responds without hesitation.  Sure, it was what amounts to "this is for you" and "thank you", but after only 4 days camp, it was impressive to see.  The chinese teacher blogs RELIGIOUSLY every day what happened in class.  That's pretty sweet too.

Alec meanwhile has...I'll give her the benefit of the doubt...the wife (maybe daughter) of my least favorite teacher growing up.  Happy joy times.  And, what's this, her supply list was different than the one the school emailed out last week...lovely. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 03:54:18 PM
These little guys been giving me a devil of a time.  Crappy autofocus pic, REALLY need a lens...

Anyway, it's one of 5 potential skippers, unfortunately, they are all variable in markings, so lest I find a caterpillar...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z24VpNyDd5I/Ug1bfW-CzDI/AAAAAAAASso/QUQszHpI3x0/s800/IMG_0115.JPG)

They all like grass, though.  Tall grasses.  But none are known to go after the raven grass, so entirely possible they're just stopping by for food since I'm the nectar factory for the neighborhood.  They sure SEEM to be perching for mates though...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 20, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
You're running a Bug Bordello, are you?  That's nasty, and I love it.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
Everyone is running a bug bordello.  I'm just a bit more aware of it. 

Duh moment:  Corn = tall grass.  All the corn this year attract those skippers?  Something has been munching the silo corn, just assumed it to be grasshoppers.  (the raven grass is usually more or less untouched)

Be interesting to do a light trap this year.  The range of life has really increased with the increased garden. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 20, 2013, 05:56:08 PM
Good news. 

Secondary water is being shut off Oct 1 this year.  That's essentially a month early, but it means I don't need to worry about having someone come water while we're on vacation. 

Bad news. 

Pineview has cut back to watering once a week.  This is my Uncle's place growing our pumpkins.  That means what has set will ripen early, but we're limiting any new pumpkins from setting or growing large.  Coupled with the heat, it could wipe out the plants all together.  He's fairly shaded though, so pleasant thoughts...


Harvested the Ambrosia corn stalks.  Thoughts on my modification to the three sisters: 

Planted too much corn too densely.  2 plantings is also not enough.  Need to plant smaller plantings more frequently next year. 

Pumpkins planted within the corn rows did well early on, but ended up petering out later.  Plant around the edges. 

At this point, this year:

Cinderellas are having one amazing year.  Dozen + cinderellas, most respectably sized.  At least one at 2' + diameter. 
Musquee:  Interesting pumpkin, only one confirmed so far.  Possible crossbred seed was bought. 
Luminas:  EXTREMELY disappointing year.  After the fantastic showing last year, they've totally gone to crap. 
Sugar:  Slightly larger than advertised, good production so far. 
Jack Be Little:  HOLY COW, are they a factory! 2 plants, at least 2 dozen pumpkins/gourds. 


Leaning towards not messing with the 'specialty' stuff next year.  Plant one cinderella for eating, and 1-2 musquee for curiousity, then focus on sugar and old zebs.   
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 21, 2013, 01:20:42 AM
I can only hope that those pumpkins survive. What is Halloween without pumpkins?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 01:26:19 AM
Much less delicious, for one thing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:43:57 AM
oh, there will be pumpkins, I just might have to suppliment.

Well, Buncle, whatcha think?

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 02:53:49 AM
You were already an accomplished artist of impressive talent - I just helped you a little with what buttons to push.  It's striking and awesome, of course, and legible.  Artists forget that last a lot, but of course a pragmatic showman like you did not.

Would it be slightly improved by making the glow of the letters a color that stands out a little against the green?  Or is matching the white glow of the eyes more important?  Would it be better with a slightly less cramped layout?

I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:56:39 AM
It's actually better shrunk down to it's actual size.

<img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RLJ8LZMyQc4/UhQcFKvjyMI/AAAAAAAASv8/6TlcKTAXb4I/s144/button%2520copy.jpg" height="130" width="144" /> (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6fGtcV0qTgw2jzy-iVsdyqOgPB_2iMI-byPfqegtqvc?feat=embedwebsite)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:57:22 AM
sorry, html off...lessee.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RLJ8LZMyQc4/UhQcFKvjyMI/AAAAAAAASv8/6TlcKTAXb4I/s144/button%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:58:44 AM
Now I've got to fix the page....bleh. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 03:06:11 AM
I still wonder about color...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 03:32:07 AM
I'm color blind with similar shades, but it looks good to me.  Had to hide the left half of the pic but make it a 'natural' transition.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 03:41:19 AM
Okay, it's really good as-is.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 04:01:43 AM
Tali checkin on wiggles.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MPSCJWnD9E8/UhQtNUwyYKI/AAAAAAAASwo/eH7uUGjRt48/s800/IMG_0157.JPG)

Today's pics brought to you by Talia:

Wiggles

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eNBfnNvEiYg/UhQtNfxposI/AAAAAAAASwg/vTkACeCWUTQ/s800/IMG_0158.JPG)

Chompy

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kRukJ9wU8wc/UhQtOm4ej3I/AAAAAAAASw4/a9rUll6ulho/s800/IMG_0161.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 04:10:33 AM
Tell Talia thank you, and that she's very pretty in the first picture.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 04:13:01 AM
Our patch.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-24ryWJtCHYA/UhQuOFMWRPI/AAAAAAAASxY/P7UWgaV9h0w/s800/IMG_0162.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-48r-hDt5zUs/UhQuOGGoUKI/AAAAAAAASxc/Hlb9fpOmikQ/s800/IMG_0163.JPG)

Sample of our sugar pumpkins next to my size 11.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BegaEZrm75g/UhQuOIXwN2I/AAAAAAAASxg/RdpW9Nx7ceU/s800/IMG_0164.JPG)

The prize cinderella. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mTjPAx1t6iA/UhQuOq8ABTI/AAAAAAAASxs/h7UhkZ5Oo3I/s800/IMG_0165.JPG)

The prize Musquee. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Jk5ju5t-gJM/UhQuPDjwjQI/AAAAAAAASx0/zq-ySas4h1c/s800/IMG_0167.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 21, 2013, 05:00:17 AM
Tell Talia thank you, and that she's very pretty in the first picture.

What the man said.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 05:14:23 AM
For a nickel I'd make and don a new avatar, in fact, but I already fear sounding all bad touch in my Talia fandom...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
Might creep out hEt, yeah.  She does lurk occasionally.

I'm really loving that musquee pumpkin.  Those deep ribs...I might just make a mold of that one. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:00:06 PM
I can also confirm my musquee pumpkin seeds were crossbred now.  Some of the others are coming out bicolor and other wierdness you get from crossbred cucurbits. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 02:10:55 PM
hEt!  Sign up and speak up!

Groovy girl-intensive OT NOW!  Spoon!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
As you guys may know, I don't really buy into the whole kickstarter thing when it comes to games.  However, I do find it a good way for artists to get something rolling.  Latest down the line of Halloween flavored ones:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1327932176/the-scary-godmother-doll (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1327932176/the-scary-godmother-doll)


I'm sure you're all shocked to hear Talia already prefers the monster high girls to barbie...really considering pitching in for this thing. 

(the disney princess barbies being locked up by the monster high girls is a 'regular' playtime around here) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 02:25:06 PM
There women of my family do a lot of work in dolls - I need to call Mylochka's attention to that link.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 02:53:22 PM
Oh, what a sad day...like a nightmare. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2013, 03:05:57 PM
Oh, what a sad day...like a nightmare.

Those too will pass.  :)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 03:07:47 PM
No, I don't think it will.  Someone found and bumped the cutesy Uno thread, and it's caught on.  :(
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2013, 03:08:22 PM
Link?
I'm not sure which forum you're talking about.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 03:39:39 PM
What he said.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
Link won't help.  It's just about Talia's little party last year.  They did some 'social integration' something or other over on the halloween forum, so I'm just getting tagged with a bunch of 'likes' which pop up like PM's when someone does it and clogs up my inbox.  Not sure I like the 'like' system as people tend to just hit the button rather than actually respond to threads.  But, at the same time the volume that place sees over the actual holiday, that's a good thing.  Offseason, not so much. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
Picked an especially annoying time to do it, too, as I'm helping organize the gift exchange (secret santa, only cool) and need my box clear for that. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
They like the video of you doing magic for the kids?  You are pretty charming in that one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Quote
Awesome new avatar! And unique too! 

Pm as much for you as me. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
You just violated one of AC2's few actual rules.

However, Vegas is about not causing trouble or embarrassing anyone, and this totally passes the smell test and is in compliance with the spirit of the rule.  Good call, 'cause that makes me happy.  Someone at the Halloween forum, or what?

-Also?  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
Yep, over there on that one.  Have had a few on facebook too. 

I'm da rulebreaker!  ;uno
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
I'm da rulebreaker!  ;uno

:rockon:
:cute:
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Technically I probably didn't violate the rule, though.  "PM" is the closest analog, but it was not an entirely private message.  http://www.halloweenforum.com/members/unorthodox.html (http://www.halloweenforum.com/members/unorthodox.html)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
Good news...

The motors from china DO run on AC and I did not blow anything up!   (yay for chinese markings not meaning a damn thing...hurry and get taught, Tali) 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 06:49:02 PM
It was a visitor message.  Those are public for anyone who looks to see, not Vegas at all.  Nevermind...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 07:48:46 PM
Whatever.  I'm not so good with all the socializing stuff. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
Creepiness becomes you?  :D
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 08:34:17 PM
Stranger just told me "you're kind of scary, you know?" 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 21, 2013, 08:37:06 PM
Actual silent chuckle at that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 21, 2013, 10:19:43 PM
Just got invited to a haunted....

Paintball arena.  In california, during my vacation. 

Really interesting concept where YOU SHOOT THE ACTORS.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 22, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
"Trust me and your life will surely rival King Tut's" 

Don't know why this line just struck me especially funny this morning. 


Anyhow.  The whole animated fence idea isn't going to work.  I had a feeling that was going to be the case all along, but confirmed it last night.  Too much weight, I'll have to flip the axis and counterweight the thing, but that's going to have to wait till next year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 22, 2013, 06:06:32 PM
Too bad.  That one had promise.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 22, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
The good news is flipping/counterweighting will let me use real pumpkins on it.  In fact, if I just use 2 pumpkins with the motor in the middle, they should counterweight each other yielding little/no load on the motor.  It's obvious and I should have seen it originally.  Might try it out with one of the new motors, I have most of the parts. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 23, 2013, 02:29:02 AM
Quote
This is an all ages event, blood and gore are allowed


These are my kind of people. 

http://www.utahzombies.com/ (http://www.utahzombies.com/)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 23, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
Wiggles has emerged as a 4th instar.  This is the classic eating machine most people think of when you think caterpillar.  At the upper end here, should be molting into the final caterpillar stage soon. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7ZwrNPPaqI0/UhdAr99n2jI/AAAAAAAAS0I/8vUkk9OJKys/s800/IMG_0181.JPG)

Chompy taught me something.  Caterpillars can JUMP.  Now, I've had them do all kids of things:  curl into ball, fling down on silk, spit goo, etc when I try to move them onto their new leaf.  Chompy, He JUMPED!  Curled, and flick!  6" bounds at a time.  Almost flew off the table. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6l156SVIOtg/UhdArIj325I/AAAAAAAASz4/VQlQYSflegY/s800/IMG_0179.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 23, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
Wiggles is getting bigger. Next thing you know, it will be a butterfly.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 24, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
Yeah, he's gotta roughly double that size before that. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 24, 2013, 12:52:48 AM
Yeah, he's gotta roughly double that size before that. 

That is going to be one big caterpillar :o.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2013, 04:08:04 AM
Pretty big hail storm is dumping on us.  That's not going to be good for the pumpkins...

Had the kids help me build a butterfly cage...I don't thing there's a square angle in it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Geo on August 25, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
End of the drought?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2013, 02:03:34 PM
Takes a heck of a lot more than one storm to end a drought.  The trouble is our reservoirs are practically empty. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Dio on August 25, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
End of the drought?
Takes a heck of a lot more than one storm to end a drought.  The trouble is our reservoirs are practically empty. 

It would take several heavy storms in a season to end a drought.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2013, 02:26:55 PM
All-day soaker drizzling would do it better.  Storms waste a lot to run-off.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 25, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
BTW, congratulations to Uno on the 101st page of AC2's longest and most viewed thread.  I owe you for all the support, buddy.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 25, 2013, 11:52:20 PM
Probably 90% is you being my sounding board.  It's a needed commodity. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 01:32:58 AM
Of course.  It's valuable to get the opinion of another artist, but the thing is, I enjoy talking shop, so doing no favors there. 

I've tried to get Kil to look in here even though he doesn't work in sculpture and is pretty opposite you in nature of fantasy life - an artist's eye is still an artist's eye, and he has real talent.  I suspect the opposite thing is the hangup...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 03:51:00 AM
Had nothing to build, so went for a walk this evening.  Ostensibly looking for more signs of caterpillars, but also for inspiration in general.

This is the place Chimera was designed for.  I had pics of it 'living' here.  IF there was any way to get it back there, I would.  And if it were possible, I would build a haunt that stretches this trail. 

Before getting to the area, you have the bridge begging for a troll.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ee3Z-p8zjso/UhrAt_H98-I/AAAAAAAAS2w/kXsTtP3RYzY/s800/IMG_0200.JPG)

Unfortunately the leg back to Chimera's home is in MAJOR disrepair, and if it weren't for the creepy tree I would have missed the turnoff myself.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S0reV0LvZ4o/UhrAt1OzMlI/AAAAAAAAS20/pX6JAXZA4rE/s800/IMG_0202.JPG)

Then you get to Chimera's home, a nice big pond/marsh. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iubwTeMoPmE/UhrAuye75rI/AAAAAAAAS3M/NuJ3bQxtx_E/s800/IMG_0203.JPG)

Unfortunately the trail to the far side is gone.  But tell me this thing doesn't belong there.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F8f2Fh22nUA/TmLq7ckM_wI/AAAAAAAAJaE/ZchxIvEvNvg/s800/IMG_5766.JPG)

I've wanted to build a...thing...to be peaking out behind a tree down there.  Been worried about the legality of it. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 03:55:31 AM
Oh man, that WOULD be pretty awesome.


you have the bridge begging for a troll.
You suck, bridge!
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 03:59:45 AM
So, on to the trailhead.  I didn't know where it come out, so I was hiking from the bottom to the top.  Now I know and will take the much easier down path...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dokYeyR0448/UhrAu9EjSlI/AAAAAAAAS3I/bPD9926uyC0/s800/IMG_0205.JPG)

One of the reasons to hike this trail is the washes....at the top of the hill there is a freeway.  On the far side of the freeway is a gully which is one of the creepier places I've ever been.  This runs under the freeway, washing everything from the gully down here.  Good place to find bones.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r4RiI14VNnI/UhrAvQjmqzI/AAAAAAAAS3c/sK7NGEcVldQ/s800/IMG_0211.JPG)

Unfortunately they were too fresh.  Someone's pup. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9m5172D9yKw/UhrAwNcOC2I/AAAAAAAAS3g/A7MW0j-e_xg/s800/IMG_0212.JPG)

The trail itself keeps you on your toes.  Bull ants.  Their mounds dot the lower end of the trail, and well, if you don't pay attention, they WILL collapse under you and you'll have a lotta pissed off ants on you. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IQJ7aTnvvmM/UhrAa8Bc6MI/AAAAAAAAS1M/Vx9P2Lv207U/s800/IMG_0207.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Cwlpbud9X5U/UhrAa5kgRsI/AAAAAAAAS1U/udcWjt7CiRY/s800/IMG_0208.JPG)

Spider web across the trail. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VF4fT4kMwGY/UhrAcRqvCJI/AAAAAAAAS1w/yoqmgwAE7dY/s800/IMG_0213.JPG)


Hot insect love.  No idea what these are.  (well, I have a general starting point, but little else)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AG-viWyc51Y/UhrAcCY8Y1I/AAAAAAAAS1o/8RApC0CWHWQ/s800/IMG_0214.JPG)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 04:05:18 AM
Getting home, wiggles molted and is now 5th instar and on a mission to fatten for transformation now. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9rFaFENJf3s/UhrAcqc44kI/AAAAAAAAS14/-VLlpTQjyhk/s800/IMG_0218.JPG)

As such, he's been given a new home.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DEGAE94f1Pw/UhrAdduiT1I/AAAAAAAAS2M/0ml2t3FAm24/s800/IMG_0221.JPG)

Chompy, with his old head. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2abVRFYc69Q/UhrAdrEFozI/AAAAAAAAS2Q/aD8U1Rh2mWs/s800/IMG_0225.JPG)

Another phrase that would be strange elsewhere:  "Dad, you spilled his head!"
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 26, 2013, 04:32:15 AM
"And... If....
"If you like vegetables,
Fruit and fresh flowers,
Give thanks to us bugs,
Who labor for hours,
And if not for the fact,
That we love the taste,
You'd be out there wallowing,
In shoulder -high waste!
(shoulder-high waste!)

And..... If.........
 All of the bugs were
Wiped off of the planet,
There'd soon be no humans,
 Around here to man it.
The great thing about us?
You can't live without us!
It's tough- toooo beee a bug!!!"


You'll understand soon enough.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 01:58:42 PM
Hot insect love.  No idea what these are.  (well, I have a general starting point, but little else)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AG-viWyc51Y/UhrAcCY8Y1I/AAAAAAAAS1o/8RApC0CWHWQ/s800/IMG_0214.JPG)

Well, crap, not where I expected it to be on the bug guide...might have to ask what's that bug. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 03:08:49 PM
It was busy when you posted that last night, or I'd have already called you down for posting pron.  BAD Uno!  BAD bug pimp!









(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1295.0;attach=6181)
This prudery brought to you by AC2.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 03:16:13 PM
Down to 2 possibilities, really. 

Cranefly.  The overall shape and structure screams out cranefly, thus it's my first guess, but those legs really don't fit.

Moth.  Clearwing moths love to mimic others, and the legs and antenna on the female (the top one) really point at moth.


Cranefly:  I can find no definitive list, let alone pictorial, for North America, let alone Utah. 

Moth.  I've ruled out the ones listed on the Utah Lepidopterists' Society website.  But, it's a 2003 list and could be outdated/incomplete. 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
Well, the dang thing is showing how outdated I am on my information. 

ID is a hanging thief.  (not too distant relative of the crane fly, so I'm not terribly embarrased.)

http://bugguide.net/node/view/639343 (http://bugguide.net/node/view/639343)

Wicked little bug predates on anything it can catch.  First recorded in Utah in the mid 90's (back when I was getting out of the game), and mostly isolated to the shores of the great salt lake.  Obviously, the range is expanding.  Of note, I got a pic of these two as they were, um, preoccupied, but there were at least a half dozen more that wouldn't let me get close enough for a pic. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 04:10:44 PM
An invasive that needs killin', then?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 04:24:25 PM
From what I can gather, it's sounding more like global warming or whatever you want to call it, just allowing it to live here where winters would have previously killed them off.  Explains the proximity to the lake shore as well, warmer there during the winter and all.  How it got introduced in the first place is anyone's guess, but it's not inconceivable to be natural range expansion.  One thing about bugs is they're always changing range like that. 

 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
You're cool with the impact on your established bug species?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 05:15:10 PM
I can't even find a complete detail of their life cycle, let alone what impact they might impose.  I'm more inclined to wonder about the relatively recent invasion of pepsis wasps and what they're doing to the local spider population, and by extension the local insect population, but that's probably just me showing my wasp/bee specialty more than anything else, and the invasive asian borer beetles turning the forests into tinder boxes is the big news as far as real impact is concerned.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
No hope the hanging thiefs will eat the borers, I bet...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 26, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
Different habitat. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 26, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
The important thing for them and all predatory insects to do is that they kill mosquitos, without invading homes.
Bite mosquitos before they bite me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 26, 2013, 11:13:24 PM
I like that.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 12:09:51 AM
WTF?  Anyone got a reasonable guess?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Someone conversant in an Asian language recorded a dominos game or was trying to play by correspondence.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 12:37:43 AM
I'm sure it's adding as I've figured that one out, but beyond that, don't know.  Maybe the bottom is supposed to all be +0 problems? 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
Could be.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 01:09:10 AM
Doesn't help with the 4 questions up top...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 01:21:55 AM
Why the Arabic numerals, anyway?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 02:22:37 AM
This is Tali's chinese homework. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 02:28:14 AM
Ah.  You're just trying to puzzle it out instead of asking?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 02:33:36 AM
Ask who? 

My understanding is there was supposed to be english instructions on the website, but uh, not yet. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 02:37:03 AM
Ah.  She doesn't know either, and you're trying to help w/ homework.  (I'm multitasking, so please pardon my density.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 04:02:13 AM
Talia's comment on what I should build for next year:

"You should get a bunch of dirt and make the whole yard a hill.  Then on top of the hill you can put a bunch of skeletons on sticks and put the pumpkins under them, and when the people walk buy you can have the sticks and skeletons moving.  That would scare a lot of people.  When I get done trick or treating, I can come move the sticks and be scary. "

Tali's pushing for Vlad the impaler...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 04:10:02 AM
I suspect you might just love your daughter a little.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 04:29:55 AM
I must admit, it's not a bad idea at all.  Sans-hill, of course. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 04:31:30 AM
Alec meanwhile had to turn in his 3 choices for his country report this year, and why. 

1:  Egypt
because of Mummies.

2: Romania
because of Dracula

3: England
because of Harry Potter


I don't think the teacher is expecting these kinds of reasons.  I'm also fairly confident no one in the class would pick Romania. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
I have a friend who tells me Romania is cool...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 27, 2013, 05:20:46 AM
As to Chinese homework- I'm baffled.

Not that I know Chinese characters beyond being able to differentiate them on Mahjong tiles, or words beyond what we used in Kung fu classes, but this looks to me like somebody swapped some stuff out on a math work sheet  for Chinese characters.

I thought Chinese was read right to left, but there are question marks on the right. 

Do the Chinese even use Arabic numerals?

Perhaps Chinese math works left to right, I have no idea. It doesn't "Add up" for me.

I would avoid confusing Talia by trying to sort this one out, and send the teacher a note explaining that the website is down, and you can't understand the Chinese instructions. Ask if they could please provide printed English instructions until the website is operational.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 05:53:31 AM
Sounds right.

I'm pretty sure they don't use Arabic except in documents aimed at foreigners, which are probably not in Chinese in the first place.  And doesn't the writing go top to bottom?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 27, 2013, 06:57:54 AM
I think so.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 01:58:13 PM
Yeah, I think they're just swapping the characters right now so as to not confuse their english teaching.  The reading portion of the program doesn't really kick into high gear until after grade school.  Right now, the chinese is mostly math and science...how you do the latter without reading is going to be interesting. 

I'm confident it's addition problems in the "A+B=C" format.  The problem is we only have "A" as far as I can see, unless "B" is supposed to be 0, but that doesn't fit the examples up top.  I think either the bottom end is all supposed to = 6, so "3 + X =6" and you write in the 3 and draw 3 dots...

or, I'm totally lost. 

This is a big packet not due to next monday.  Bless her heart, the kids are home for about an hour before I get home from work.  She did the entire thing herself.  Did most of it WRONG, but she buckled down and did her homework.  New rule:  let dad get home before you start on that.  Alec, however, could learn a thing from her. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 02:05:46 PM
I suspect you might just love your daughter a little.
^This.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 10:12:05 PM
 :luv:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=26298834&cat=&lpid=&search=rib bones&ad_cid=1 (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=26298834&cat=&lpid=&search=rib)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
Jeez, I thought you were hearting your girl until I checked the link... ;lol
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 27, 2013, 10:36:14 PM
Her chinese teacher posts videos of class, but I'm not sure the etiquette of linking to them...I mean, it's people's kids and all. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 27, 2013, 10:46:49 PM
Huh.  I guess that's a good call.  Drat.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 02:31:46 AM
 ;woohoo Wiggles is on da move! 

Doesn't preclude him going back to eating, but it does mean we're close to cocoon.  Tomorrow, maybe the next day. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 02:32:29 AM
If Tawnee Welch shows up, take pictures.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 02:52:10 PM
Skunk and I crossed paths again this morning.  This still dark while I'm heading to work phase makes that all the more likely.  We seem to have an understanding of one another though, and it just looked up at me and went back to eating the bugs, my part I just calmly walked by.  At least it doesn't threaten the spray anymore. 


So we've had hail, rain, and drizzle for the last couple days.  All the humidity that brings has brought on the mildew on the pumpkins.  Got a few dry days before more scattered showers come in, so gotta see what we can do about the mildew.  I'd like to squeeze at least 2 more weeks out of these plants before they go.  Preferably 3.  Pencilling in 9/20-9/21 for harvesting, which would let us sell surplus pumpkins 9/23-9/26 before our vacation. 

The field corn is tassseling, and topping out at right around 10-11'.  Not the 14' monsters, but given conditions this year, it's not bad.  Comparing to my raven grass, it's thicker stalk has certain appeal.  We'll probably use the rest of the seed, but if all my raven grass starts hold up well, a year or two from now, this corn will really be superfluous.  As it stands, it's hard to tell if I'm going to have enough corn or I'm going to need to go after reed grass this year.  Prefer not to. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 09:48:15 PM
Hm.  Change in tactics on the web attack.  Stonewalled by my host again, but have to do some editimidation on some things to adjust.  Debating making a post on there to mock them. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
Don't mock.  Somebody just took down 'poly.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 28, 2013, 11:23:31 PM
worried it's related?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 28, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
I bet you haven't posted at ACS in years, so not really, but mocking is just a bad idea.  Doesn't get you laid or paid, and in troll/hack-speak, you'd just be daring them.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2013, 03:32:47 AM
They're already doing it, that's the problem.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 29, 2013, 04:58:14 AM
And you don't need them trying any harder.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2013, 02:43:30 PM
I don't know, buying up all domains I've linked to that have gone dead is pretty desparate.  (halloween sites don't tend to have a very long shelf life, as most people are 5 years or less in the hobby.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
Anyway, start the day with a positive.

Sure, it's still 70 degrees out in the wee hours of the morning, but it FELT different today.  The air is changing.  It's not colder, really, there's just a different FEELING to fall air than there is to the other seasons. 

And now here at work, that SMELL is in the air as well.  Probably someone running a harvester in one of the nearby fields.  Fall is on the way. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
Oh, Wiggles was up on a stick this morning, kinda half-hanging.  I suspect we'll have a cocoon tonight. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on August 29, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
So between the drought and the skunk, are your slugs under control?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 29, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
Oh yeah, once the skunk started coming back around, both the slugs and the squash bugs went bye-bye.  Or at least to non-problem levels. 

Drought in Utah is a little different than your normal definitions.  It's mostly based on reservoir levels.  A little rain, while it temporarily stops my water problems extremely locally, it doesn't help the drought condition.  At present, I believe it would take 2-3 years of normal snowfall to recover the reservoirs.  (now, how they got to this point in the first place is a lesson in mismanagement in some cases)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 30, 2013, 03:36:27 PM
Is your hand okay today?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 30, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
found me a macro kit lens for supercheap.  Sure it got stuck but I knew how to get it off once that happened, and I had to take it apart to make it work right, but it come with 2 even older cameras than the last one I got, and an even older 50mm lens than mine.  Gonna have to resell some of this stuff soon.  really nice old flash, and old school lightmeter.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 31, 2013, 04:41:42 AM
I needed stitches, they used the glue.  It didn't take now im screwed.  too late for stitches now.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 31, 2013, 04:43:42 AM
Ouch.  You never said what happened or how bad it was...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 31, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
cutting a squash.  It sprayed the ceiling.  This finger has diminished feeling anyway as it was crushed previously, and the fact I FELT it was bad news to begin with. 

 "it's not that  deep' said the doc, thus the glue.  Taking off the bandage tonight, it had bled through which is a bad sign, the glue come right off.  I could see my heartbeat throbbing ooze out of the cut tonight.  that's not good news either.  Boss is trying to reglue with her stuff. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 31, 2013, 04:57:37 AM
Eek. 

Well, at least the Boss knows what she's doing.  Could be worse.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on August 31, 2013, 05:02:49 AM
I'm a first aid expert, and knew it needed the stitches.  Reminds me of hEt's appendicitis.  I diagnosed it immediately, but the hospital hummed and hawed for hours before deciding that's officially what was wrong.  Diagnosed her brother over the phone as well.  His was more serious, granted. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 01, 2013, 08:23:48 PM
Pulled ANOTHER 25 lbs of tomatoes out of the garden today.  Already canned our salsa for the year (the goal planting the tomatoes we did), so thinking I might try to dig up gramma's spaghetti sauce. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 02, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
So, I go to try out the new lens, and stumble on a turf war going on. 

Contender 1, my squash bees, whom, as you know, we adore. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CQBlr10JzSg/UiPQZ-SxtHI/AAAAAAAAS5w/gb5QAyclWmw/s800/_IGP2056.jpg)

However...in a surprise, we have some leafcutters making nests in the corn. 

(that's a tongue, not some wicked mouth)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jtFpSikLx-M/UiPRWFaMIsI/AAAAAAAAS6k/CKWVRvaEut4/s800/IMGP2063.jpg)

The latter could cause problems come time to chop that corn...

But wait, we're not done.  A Bumblebee queen (I've yet to narrow it to a specific species since this set of markings is not on the predominant Utah guide) is looking to make a nest on the side of the shed as well!  (here a squash bee harassing her)


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sr68K6C2ZNg/UiPQaSgx4aI/AAAAAAAAS6M/uXinr-8CuaA/s800/_IGP2060.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q_0ACAnRJmg/UiPQZISJ-2I/AAAAAAAAS5g/9F9FIRnKy68/s800/_IGP2053.jpg)


Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 02, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
6+ hours yesterday, but that is some VERY nice tomato sauce I made/canned yesterday. 

Sorry I missed whatever was going on as a result. 

Taking stock, we have ~20 pumpkins I can count on, and a bunch more smaller ones that might make it.  Got lots to decide on.  With the trip timed how it is, do I pick and sell the week before (so Sept 23 or so) or wait till we get back, and sell the 2nd week of October? 

Problem is most of the sugar pumpkins I planted SPECIFICALLY to get smaller pumpkins, max size supposed to be 10 lbs, are 20 lb pumpkins.  Musquee, I have 2 solid pumpkins, and 4 smaller ones coming on.  Probably a dozen cinderellas, some pretty LARGE. 

1 lumina.  Baffled by the change from last year. 

Debating on planting large varieties for next year. 


Wiggles is cocooning.  If I can set up the time lapse, I will. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 03:14:01 AM
Dang it.  Looks like the battery died before Wiggles started, we get home and he's already half done.  Put a new battery in and started recording again. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 03:59:57 AM
Wiggles forming Chrysalis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BNWsEmjdpo#)


Wiggles:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rfPWVIPlflo/UiVQvabuH6I/AAAAAAAAS7A/MZrDMK3S5js/s800/IMGP2071.jpg)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2013, 04:10:21 AM
Nicce.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 05:28:24 PM
http://america.discovery.com/tv-shows/mountain-monsters (http://america.discovery.com/tv-shows/mountain-monsters)

Mountain Monsters. 

Boys and I caught a marathon of this sometime late Sunday. 

It's no secret I'm a fan of the hunt for mysterious beast shows, mostly because I get to hear about different legends and whatnot I can use.  Still, I was very skeptical with this particular show given the channel and premise.

After watching a few episodes, it very apparantly falls into a routine.  Drive to location, interview, walk around at night looking for things, commercial break, come back with witness grainy video evidence, build a trap, try to hunt/kill whatever. 

Post production sound effects and whatnot make it feel incredibly staged at times, and some of the prints they find are way too perfect.  But, one thing they have going for them most shows of this type don't: 

Most the time, they are being called because something is supposedly eating someone's livestock.  Werewolf (woofman as they pronounce it), "lizard demon", whatever it is, they usually find something that's been supposedly killed by whatever.  Run around, build a Wil E Coyote styled trap, and shoot in the dark.  Forget collecting evidence, we want a dead body.  Chances are it'll be one of the people on the show...

It's no destination truth, but it's entertaining. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Hub network is hosting a costume contest, mrs america style (one winner from every state)...

Martha Stewart is judge. 

I think I'm gonna go throw up now. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
My condolences.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 09:01:12 PM
Since I already had it out.

Tali's first brush with a Dark Ride.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CYOgLst5iUs/SgZJ1xgzq2I/AAAAAAAADCw/eThlSNAXXwQ/s800/IMG_2978.JPG)

Became her favorite that year.

She had been wanting to be a 'witch's cat' this year, since pretty much last Halloween.  She doesn't change her mind much, but recently wanted to be Esmeralda instead.  When first approaching the switch, she asked "is that still scary to help you after I get home?" 

Frankly, overall voodoo feeling we're doing, a gypsie isn't so far out of touch. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Are you saying she's getting a gypsy costume now?

(Also, "gypsy" being an ethic slur in the eyes of Romany/Travelers, should that word be allowed here?  I'm asking.)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 03, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
Well, since we'll be right IN the mouse palace and all, we might just buy an honest to goodness Esmeralda costume.  Then again, we might do more generic.  Where Esmeralda is NOT a bonafide Disney Princess, it might not even be a commonly stocked costume. 

As for Gypsy, it's a term applied to a wide variety of ethnicities, actually, including the Romani and is a grey area, much like "Indian" is to Native Americans.  You don't call someone an Indian giver, and you don't claim someone Gypped you out of something.  But your average Indian or Gypsy are not offended by the specific terms:  Anecdotal observations from those of the respective cultures I'm acquainted with. 

In terms of the costume, SPECIFICALLY, it will be a Gypsy costume no matter which way we go, with all the undertones that implies, and may be offensive if you were to specify a more specific ethnicity to it.  And she'll still be a dorable. 

Whether such a costume builds/enforces some kind of racism I'll happily let history decide with a clear conscience, personally. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 03, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
Olydoke.

she'll still be a dorable.
QFT.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: JarlWolf on September 04, 2013, 12:51:32 AM
Given I have Gypsy friends, and I call them gypsies, its fine. A gypsy is like calling a Jewish person a Jew. It's not offencive unless you connote it negatively, its just a cultural, ethnic or religious terming. Now, if I was to call them per say, jips, that'd be offencive. Or calling a Jewish person the K word, or an African the N word. Thats when it crosses the line.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2013, 01:04:48 AM
Okay, I had heard it was somewhat offensive, but if you guys have direct experience to the contrary, that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 04, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Stopped by my Uncle's over the weekend...

I don't know that we're going to have AS MANY pumpkins this year.  But, they are sure going to be LARGER. 

Here I was thinking of planting large varieties for contrast next year, but looks like I need to go SMALLER for contrast.  Maybe the pumpkins just went fewer/larger as their response to the drought conditions?   

Powdery mildew is killing his quicker than it is mine, so definitely harvesting before our trip.  Harvest 9/20-21, sell off any surplus 9/23-27. 

Both of us bought commercial seed this year, and we both have lots of odd hybrid varieties growing...I take it whoever is supplying seed to Burpee is not very careful/knowledgeable. 

Tons of work coming up to get everything ready. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 04, 2013, 07:33:08 PM
Went digging into last year just to be sure.

Wow, we harvested our cinderellas and luminas on 9/9 last year.  Crazy just thinking about how early that is, but makes me feel a lot better about how the patch is dying off now, doing much better than last year in that way.  Of note, however, we did plant about 2 weeks later, so it's all evening out in that way.  Harvested the big patch 9/20 last year, so that seems like a good time again. 

Depressing to see the raven grass harvest from last year, though, we have practically nothing compared to that this year. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 04, 2013, 10:39:17 PM
Well, is there some consolation for the raven grass in your corn stalks?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 04, 2013, 11:08:27 PM
Odd.  I never heard of any part of anything growing bigger because it was dry - I've seen a lot of melons and fruits, notably grapes, grown bigger because it was too wet, but be crappy because they're all water.  Big as an adjustment to a dry year is a new one by me - maybe western dryland breeds I've never been involved in farming...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 05, 2013, 01:42:04 AM
It sounds counterintuitive, but I think it's plausible . My pumpkin experience had more to do with mildew than draught, but it was only a couple of years.

Anyway- hot/dry weather means that there are fewer blossoms "set" in the case of beans. Most fall off. Then the plant puts all of it's energy into what it has left, making the pods and seeds above average in size.

With corn a similar thing can happen- a variety that might produce multiple ears in a good season will abort the additional ears, and they will wither. The overall yield will be less, but the single ear, or the kernels that are on that ear may well be bigger than usual. When things are really harsh, a corn plant might produce only pollen and not even attempt an ear.

So basically a plant might switch from quantity to quality when it comes to reproduction. After all, in harsher conditions a larger seed with more stored energy stands a better chance than a normal one.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 05, 2013, 04:36:28 AM
Yeah, that's what happened with the one variety of corn.  No second ear per stalk, and the ears we did get were TINY, but the KERNELS were nice and big.   

I know pumpkins 'set' better in cooler temps (specifically early morning), that never really come this year.  this would actually explain the poorer performance of the Luminas this year as well, since they were planted last among the plants, they would have been exposed to less of the cool temps early in the year.  And the Giant pumpkin growers artificially induce one per vine to get the size.  It's just a guess at the moment. 

The tall corn will make up for the loss of raven grass, sure, but it means I'm at a net loss on the year and will have to go cut reed grass again, something I had hoped to avoid.  I'll probably try to stretch what I have to cover anyway, see if I like it. 

As for how bad the year has been:

Hottest mean temp on record.  We've had more 'hot' days in the past, but our lows were especially warm this year. 
Bottom 10% on amount of water.    "91% of the time we have more precipitation".  This is measured some odd August to August schedule. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 06, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
Ultra Reality: What would you do in this situation? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynvKWYvyCqw#)
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 01:15:54 AM
I would do exactly what those people did and freak right the heck out - except for the felony assault I might commit on those mothers who came in laughing.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 01:27:11 AM
I'm pretty good at making a fool of myself, and can enjoy a joke at my own expense.

Well, I don't think that would be funny. Probably just because I happened to traverse the great state of New York on 911, and dealt with people in shock or panicking because the phones were overloaded & useless and they couldn't find their children or other  loved ones.

Normally I worry before something happens, and get a grip when it does.  I'd probably be on the floor bracing for the shockwave to break the glass and planning on getting others safely out afterwords.

I think I'd be infuriated to learn it was a joke, and split some knuckles on somebody's face or put some furniture through that fancy screen, so that they would think before terrorizing anybody else. You could pull all kinds of pranks with a screen that's a convincing window. Why not do something that's actually funny?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 01:31:54 AM
Except for the part about New York -I was in Texas watching CNN- you speak for me.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 01:55:47 AM
I was working and had an early start that morning. I always listened to NPR in the Bronco. The NYC coverage was excellent, because they had a Manhattan affiliate.  Granted, they thought the first plane was a small twin engine model at first , but I knew about it immediately. I thought, "Oh well, a plane hit the Empire State building once...." Strangely, they didn't know what was going on in their headquarters city of DC, just that there was a lot of smoke over towards the Pentagon.
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 06, 2013, 02:59:49 AM
Was driving a yard jockey at the time, just doing my thing.  The radio went real quiet for a while and I caught up on my backloand took the truck in to the shop, who didn't know anything either.  Got back from that, and the plant had shut down and sent everyone home.  My boss leaving says "go home, we're at war"  Went home baffled as the radio in that car didn't even work. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 04:38:28 AM
If I  had the setup with the fake window TV, fake job interview, Candid Camera thing...

 I might let the interviewer get weirder and weirder until the candidate is starting to wish it were over.
Then I would have the interviewer tell the candidate he'll get the job- When pigs fly!" Meanwhile, what should appear "outside the window", but a flying pig? :D

What would you do with fake window and job interview set-up?
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 06, 2013, 04:46:09 AM
Hmm.  That is an evil thought.  Let's see if my subconscious comes up with something good...
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 06, 2013, 06:49:51 AM
Not a fake window, but I've always to do a room:

You the TV at the end of a longish room, and a live-ish feed of the room playing, but it's tape delayed a few seconds.  PEOPLE, Especially kids, LOVE to play with this kind of setup.  They make faces at the camera, etc.  But, the tape delay gives you a chance to sneak up someone behind them, and by the time they SEE the person coming in the TV, they are RIGHT UP next to them, but the brain doesn't register that time delay, so it's a shock when they turn. 

Originally conceived as a "Blair Witch" room, updated to "The Ring", don't think there's a current fad theme that would be able to utilize it. 


Scifi did a show that was a TON of pranks, often on job interviews/first days, and fake doors/windows have become a staple of haunted houses,  I think I would honestly be mighty suspicious from the get go. 
Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Unorthodox on September 06, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
Chompy molted to 5th instar, and we took him over to the neighbors'.  Figure the more I get those kids to like bugs the less spraying is likely to happen.  I'd talked to the dad about it earlier when I was collecting eggs.  "I didn't know you could raise butterflies"

Seriously, what kind of childhood do you have if you never raised a butterfly?  I thought that was a basic class project.  How do you not know it's possible?

Anyhow, stopped it by, I guess they had released some butterfly at the presschool, but the kids were sick and didn't get to see it, thrilled to have their own.  First question.  "Is it a boy or a girl?"  "Let me know when it turns into a butterfly and I can tell you, before that it's pretty hard to tell." 

Title: Re: Random crap with Uno.
Post by: Rusty Edge on September 06, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
No. Didn't have much interest in butterflies. Monarchs were scarce on our farm. We had an ongoing war with milkweeds, because they were a problem to mechanically separate from certain crops, which cost us money.They tended to get pulled or cut on sight, if they survived the spray program. Had an ant farm when I was a