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Magnus posted 12-20-98 10:51 PM ET
Before we go on to the sequel to Civ 2, SMAC, i would like to ask you this; What are your scores resp. number of citizen, units, number of cities etc etc in ur best civilization in civilization 2 ?? What level u played on and what year u landed om AC.
/magnus
ThomasE posted 12-21-98 01:28 AM ET
OK, this is a hard one. I just fininshed a game on the Earth 30 min ago. One Deity difficulty. And the one thing I am sure off is that I am not ever going to play Civ2 again on Deity. It was pure luck that I won. The spaceship arrived in 1938. Meanwhile on earth there was a unfortunate nuclear war. This kind of fit the story about the Unity. Although the year was a bit wrong.
My own best game have thise scores. BTW I was Indian on Earth. The difficulty was Emperor. With 7 civs. Landed on AC by 2019 AD
Both my pop and civ rating had to be calculated by hand. Civ rating(emperor): divide points by 10 and skip the decimal (do not round up). On Deity you do this and multiply by 1,29 or so)
Max pop: 404,790,000 (about 200 cities)
Max Score: 7226 points (fundamentalist+80% Luxury)
Max Civ Rating: 722%
Most Productiv City: 92shield, size 26
Most Trade: 108 arrows
Largest number of engineers: 197 (goodbye rainforest, goodday new city)
The short story
Started in Indian. Quickly meet the Persians to the west. Ekspanded massivily. Discovered 2 advanced tribes in northen afrika, started to ekspand there. Some white civ died, and the romans stated in northern china. Slowly bought there cities (6-7). Ekspanded far into russia. Conquered Persians (mostly by Spy) War in both in Europe and Afrika. My Armor against dragoons. Sent a few spies east to nothern amerika. Bought several aztek cities in one turn. Conqured the rest shortly after. War with the vikings in south amerika. In 1896 Only a size 3 english city was left on Greenland. Then I just grew my pop.
The end...until SMAC

Just one thing, What exactly does most of the stuff in the demograhics mean?
And my manual says that "Capturing an enemy capital destroys a spaceship, whether it is under construction or already launched". I have tried several times to take that capital but the ship (if launched) is never destroyed.
Bye for now and may the SMAC be with you
Kurn posted 12-21-98 03:42 AM ET
IT is destroyed. What happens is that the other civ moves its capital and prevents the ships destruction. Just conquer the 5 or 6 closest cities to the capital and those damn Persians can kiss Alpha Centauri good bye!
Magnus posted 12-21-98 10:02 AM ET
My counter stops at 320 million people!! ( i have win 95, and the scenario pack installed). 197 engineers?? I don�t know how many I have, because my conter rolls over somewhere between 160 - 250?? Why?
I will try to calculate by hand... But why do u go to AC not until 2019 ?? I am not finished with mine yet (it is soo booring when u have 200 engineers to move every turn... "sigh") But I will build my space ship now and go to AC and will land before 1800 AD. Why did u wait so long? Does u get more score if u land earlier, or is it better to grow more ppl??
ThomasE posted 12-21-98 04:07 PM ET
Magnus it is not just your civ2 that gets a bit nuts. When I play these recordgame( where the purpose is to score points) a lot of the funktions of the game, especially demograhics and F2 (i think, well the military advisor) go crazy (an eksample, I have no pullution, but it still says 800 t/year). Also when you have x-number of cities (about 100-120?) new units do not require maintenance. So just pass you engineeres through one of these cities and press h (new home city).
About those engineers. You are right. In gets mighty BORING moving these units around.
And this game took more then 40+ hours over 5 days to play.
In both Civ and Civ2 the counter stop roling at about 320 mio. You might want to visit a site called SidGames, and have a look around on around. Look at Civ2 at something called Tactics(???) or so. Some civ-expert tells about the limits of the game. The absolute max population is 20,645,120,000 people! (in theory that is).
The reason why I waited until 2019 AD (I did launch before then, but i can't recall the exact year) was that it is MUCH better to wait around and let the pop grow. You DO NOT get better scores if you land earlier (i think). While waiting I invented future tech (worth 5pt pr. tech ). I got 95!!!, I invented every turn as a fundamentalist (80% science). In the end it pays to let the pop grow, about 4000-5000 of my points came from HAPPY citizens
BTW is the scenario pack good! I never got around to buy it. And Magnus if you land on AC before 1900 please send an email, such an accivement would go right to the top of my record sheet.

Bye for now and may SMAC be with you

ThomasE
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Author	Topic: SID MEIERS CIVILIZATION II
Magnus	posted 12-20-98 10:51 PM ET Before we go on to the sequel to Civ 2, SMAC, i would like to ask you this; What are your scores resp. number of citizen, units, number of cities etc etc in ur best civilization in civilization 2 ?? What level u played on and what year u landed om AC. /magnus
ThomasE	posted 12-21-98 01:28 AM ET OK, this is a hard one. I just fininshed a game on the Earth 30 min ago. One Deity difficulty. And the one thing I am sure off is that I am not ever going to play Civ2 again on Deity. It was pure luck that I won. The spaceship arrived in 1938. Meanwhile on earth there was a unfortunate nuclear war. This kind of fit the story about the Unity. Although the year was a bit wrong. My own best game have thise scores. BTW I was Indian on Earth. The difficulty was Emperor. With 7 civs. Landed on AC by 2019 AD Both my pop and civ rating had to be calculated by hand. Civ rating(emperor): divide points by 10 and skip the decimal (do not round up). On Deity you do this and multiply by 1,29 or so) Max pop: 404,790,000 (about 200 cities) Max Score: 7226 points (fundamentalist+80% Luxury) Max Civ Rating: 722% Most Productiv City: 92shield, size 26 Most Trade: 108 arrows Largest number of engineers: 197 (goodbye rainforest, goodday new city) The short story Started in Indian. Quickly meet the Persians to the west. Ekspanded massivily. Discovered 2 advanced tribes in northen afrika, started to ekspand there. Some white civ died, and the romans stated in northern china. Slowly bought there cities (6-7). Ekspanded far into russia. Conquered Persians (mostly by Spy) War in both in Europe and Afrika. My Armor against dragoons. Sent a few spies east to nothern amerika. Bought several aztek cities in one turn. Conqured the rest shortly after. War with the vikings in south amerika. In 1896 Only a size 3 english city was left on Greenland. Then I just grew my pop. The end...until SMAC Just one thing, What exactly does most of the stuff in the demograhics mean? And my manual says that "Capturing an enemy capital destroys a spaceship, whether it is under construction or already launched". I have tried several times to take that capital but the ship (if launched) is never destroyed. Bye for now and may the SMAC be with you
Kurn	posted 12-21-98 03:42 AM ET IT is destroyed. What happens is that the other civ moves its capital and prevents the ships destruction. Just conquer the 5 or 6 closest cities to the capital and those damn Persians can kiss Alpha Centauri good bye!
Magnus	posted 12-21-98 10:02 AM ET My counter stops at 320 million people!! ( i have win 95, and the scenario pack installed). 197 engineers?? I don�t know how many I have, because my conter rolls over somewhere between 160 - 250?? Why? I will try to calculate by hand... But why do u go to AC not until 2019 ?? I am not finished with mine yet (it is soo booring when u have 200 engineers to move every turn... "sigh") But I will build my space ship now and go to AC and will land before 1800 AD. Why did u wait so long? Does u get more score if u land earlier, or is it better to grow more ppl??
ThomasE	posted 12-21-98 04:07 PM ET Magnus it is not just your civ2 that gets a bit nuts. When I play these recordgame( where the purpose is to score points) a lot of the funktions of the game, especially demograhics and F2 (i think, well the military advisor) go crazy (an eksample, I have no pullution, but it still says 800 t/year). Also when you have x-number of cities (about 100-120?) new units do not require maintenance. So just pass you engineeres through one of these cities and press h (new home city). About those engineers. You are right. In gets mighty BORING moving these units around. And this game took more then 40+ hours over 5 days to play. In both Civ and Civ2 the counter stop roling at about 320 mio. You might want to visit a site called SidGames, and have a look around on around. Look at Civ2 at something called Tactics(???) or so. Some civ-expert tells about the limits of the game. The absolute max population is 20,645,120,000 people! (in theory that is). The reason why I waited until 2019 AD (I did launch before then, but i can't recall the exact year) was that it is MUCH better to wait around and let the pop grow. You DO NOT get better scores if you land earlier (i think). While waiting I invented future tech (worth 5pt pr. tech ). I got 95!!!, I invented every turn as a fundamentalist (80% science). In the end it pays to let the pop grow, about 4000-5000 of my points came from HAPPY citizens BTW is the scenario pack good! I never got around to buy it. And Magnus if you land on AC before 1900 please send an email, such an accivement would go right to the top of my record sheet. Bye for now and may SMAC be with you ThomasE