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Borodino posted 12-17-98 12:19 AM ET
Just to avoid further debacles as my DotF award for the UoP [not that I'm complaining, not really...], every one please post your faction preference here.

Borodino posted 12-17-98 12:21 AM ET
First off, I really do know that "everyone" is one word not two.
Second, I'm a PeaceKeeper.
DHE_X2 posted 12-17-98 12:21 AM ET
Morgan/ Pks
player1 posted 12-17-98 12:26 AM ET
I'm a Hiver
Jimbo2 posted 12-17-98 12:29 AM ET
I'm UoP/Hiver
and Player1, join the club already!
Zan Thrax posted 12-17-98 12:49 AM ET
Ideologically, I'm a PKer, I guess, but I'll probably play Hive.
Brother Greg posted 12-17-98 01:23 AM ET
PK.
Andrew Kasantsev posted 12-17-98 01:24 AM ET
UoP. Maybe Hive later.
Octopus posted 12-17-98 01:24 AM ET
Hmmm... This is a tough one... I'm going to have to go with... HIVE HIVE HIVE! (they got MY awards right )
Imran Siddiqui posted 12-17-98 03:46 AM ET
Well, if you don't know this by now, well, you just haven't been paying attention. For all the newbies, I support Morgan Industries.
Imran Siddiqui
Best Morganite
Gord McLeod posted 12-17-98 04:57 AM ET
A tie between the Gaians and the UoP...
Kedryn posted 12-17-98 05:51 AM ET
The Gaians and the Morganites. And no, I do not have split personality disorder.
BoomBoom posted 12-17-98 08:27 AM ET
UoP and PK. Because I such a diplomaticly minded person.
Roland posted 12-17-98 09:14 AM ET
Well, I do have split personalities, but all of them want to be PK.
I'm a peacekeeper and I'm ok
wanna trash the Hive all the day...
precautionary note: octopus, noooooooo!!!
Frank Moore posted 12-17-98 01:01 PM ET
I want to be able to win with every faction, but I'd have to say that right now I'm probably leaning towards UoP.
jsorense posted 12-17-98 01:06 PM ET
It should come as no surprise to anyone that my first choice would be the Lord's Believers. I always wanted my very own jihad.
My second choice will be the Gaians. I guess I'm a sucker for the underdog.
jsoresne
Bearer of the Faith, Defender of the Faithful, Avenger of Martyrs
Bearer of the Fruit, Defender of the Trees, Avenger of the Gene Pool
Zorloc posted 12-17-98 02:19 PM ET
I am definately a UoPer. In every strategy game I win with better tech. But from what I have read, the Step-daughters seem like they will have a step up in the "transcendence" way of winning the game, which would be cool. I love Vorlon sayings.
"The avalanche has already begun...it is too late for the peebles to vote."
WilliamC posted 12-17-98 02:32 PM ET
Ideology wise, I'm a bit of a cross between PK's and Gaians. But in Civ2, my playing style would have probably fit the PK's better.
Grosshaus posted 12-17-98 02:54 PM ET
PK, UoP or Morgan. Actually everything else but Hive and Lord's Believers
Keith Bennett posted 12-17-98 03:00 PM ET
I'd probably play a custom Gaian. Start with the Gaian template, add the Diplomacy bonus, and probably remove the efficency bonus... this would make me a diplomat with a weak military and an ability to get along with the planet, plus the Gaian ability to use native units.
My mortal enemies would be, of course, the Spartans, who have poor diplomacy, a strong military, and care nothing for the planet and will likely use planetbusters.
Alternately, I may keep the efficiency bonus and adopt another disad... but not until I know what / if the second Gaian disad is.
Size, military, diplomacy, morale, research, industry, trade, growth, efficency, information, native... whats #12?
Talon posted 12-17-98 04:58 PM ET
I'm definitly going to be the Human Hive, but I may go with Morgan Industries.
-Talon
000022
Fluke posted 12-17-98 05:15 PM ET
I'm a sucker for the Gaians
even if I normally play CivII like a PK (let's be friends until the computer makes alliances to contain "aggression" from me. That's the signal from the game that you are strong enough to conquer the planet)
Jojo posted 12-17-98 07:28 PM ET
UoP, then Gaian.
Titan posted 12-17-98 07:39 PM ET
I will start playing each faction one time. Then I will use the custom faction option to play the canadian 8th faction.
Once I will have play every faction a couple of time, I will most certainly end up creating customs with stats between the one of the peacekeepers, and the one opf the UoP. They will be called the Canadian 8th faction.
But I am sure I will try hundreds of possible faction, never playing the same.
JohnD posted 12-17-98 07:44 PM ET
I think it would be fun to tame mindworms and locust swarms. The Human Hive would have to be my second choice, although I'm unable to explain why that is.
Zorloc posted 12-17-98 09:20 PM ET
Probably Yang's mental influence on you...
Spoe posted 12-17-98 09:25 PM ET
Fairly even split:
UoP/PK
v114patch posted 12-17-98 11:09 PM ET
Modified Gaians would be a natural first preference, then UoP and PK.
ThRiLL posted 12-18-98 01:19 AM ET
You ask me?
It's gotta be.
U of P.
=)
Although the idea of winning a multiplayer as a religious fanatic sounds pretty funny. That's gotta make the other guys squirm. It's bad enough to lose as it is, without knowing that your people are running from a bunch of galactic door-to-door Jehova's Witnesses...
(no offense to anybody of any race, religion, color, or factional preference. Religion is a very positive thing to many people. I just don't like people coming to my door to sell me anything, and that includes my eternal salvation.)
...For custom factions, Canadian or bust. Remember... we invented the zipper! We will bury you!
-ThRiLL
ThRiLL posted 12-18-98 01:23 AM ET
addendum:
re - v114patch...
Modified MacDonald's-eatin, strip-minin', baby-sellin', stock-tradin', gun-totin', cigar-smokin', slave-tradin', intern-seducin', Gaians! ...That has potential.
Fluke posted 12-18-98 02:13 AM ET
Everyone wants to modify the Gaians...
Is this some Lara Croft thing or something?
Arnelos posted 12-18-98 02:19 AM ET
Where the hell were all of you Gaians for the past 3 months?!?!?
We've had a hellish time trying to find ANYONE that agreed or wanted to play the Gaians earlier (the principal reason the Gaian awards went sort of blank and the search for supporters was desperate).
Arnelos posted 12-18-98 02:21 AM ET
For me. . .let me see. . .(BTW, anyone who doesn't already know needs to go read some posts from just about any point for the past 5-6 months or so):
PEACEKEEPERS
(I do think making a Keepers of Wisdom custom faction to replace the Peacekeepers, which replaced the Keepers back in August, would be cool though. Otherwise, my second choice is UofP, with the Gaians farther behind that.)
Hothram Upravda posted 12-18-98 03:17 AM ET
Ideology: PK
Inner Demon: Hive, Lords.
Maya posted 12-18-98 03:36 AM ET
1) Peacekeepers
2) University of Planet
3) Gaia's Stepdaughters
I agree Arnelos. It seems that sudently everyone is playing either the PK, UoP or Gaians. For the UoP, well, we all knew that it was and will be a very popular faction, but for the PK and Gaians? Nobody had the Gaians as a first choice and only a few of us had the PKs. Strange...
-Maya
Gord McLeod posted 12-18-98 04:04 AM ET
I don't know, maybe some of us just never really spoke up before. I know I've said at least once that UoP is probably my #1 faction, with #2 being the Gaians and #3 being either the Morganites or the PKers...
Bannor posted 12-18-98 04:21 AM ET
UofP love having the best tech
Hive love not worrying about angry mobs
of course I will play all the factions some
and probably lots of custom factions
Mostly Harmless posted 12-18-98 04:32 AM ET
Human Hive first, then I'll try Morgan Industries.
Capitalism and brainwashing all the way!
Arnelos posted 12-18-98 05:47 PM ET
I find that interesting.
You scored 100/100 on the Libertarian test (meaning you are as "libertarian" as they come), but you want to play the Human Hive. Intrigueing. You must have read Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD last night or something :-)
Arnelos posted 12-18-98 05:54 PM ET
Interesting. Maya and I have the exact same faction preferences. I don't know what Maya's reasons are, but mine are pretty good:
1. PK = I study social science and I am an internationalist.
2. UofP = I also have a strong interest in planetary science, the dept. where I probably spend more of my time than any other dept. My favorite author is Carl Sagan, how could I NOT want to play the UofP?
3. Gaian = Planetary Science is the closest field to recognizing the natural beauty of other planets and our own.
Baldor posted 12-18-98 05:58 PM ET
Hive... most definatly Hive.
The Thomas A Stobie posted 12-18-98 06:09 PM ET
In coming up with my preferences for which faction I want to play, I need to play each one and see how well it suits one of my playing styles. Some should better suit how I want to play (at the movement) than others. Some factions may be better suited for long term growth, others for drawn out combat.
I would recommend that you try the different factions trying to maximize their benefits before selecting which faction you prefer. Likewise, you may find factions that you can play well, but do not like to. Those I play to avoid when I find them.
Octopus posted 12-18-98 10:23 PM ET
Thomas, I think everybody knows that they'll need to try out the different factions. However, some of the advantages and disadvantages of the different factions ARE known (e.g. the Hive has good industry, Morgan has lots of cash) so people can extrapolate from their past experiences with these games to know their playing styles (I liked the Mecklars in MOO1 because of their industry, and I almost never have any cash reserves lying around when I play Civ II, so I suspect the Hive will sit better with my style than the Morgans). In addition, it's just a lot more fun to pick a faction and fight for them here on the forums.
Shining1 posted 12-18-98 11:55 PM ET
Gaian All The Way!
Victor Galis posted 12-19-98 12:04 AM ET
Uop first. It is my playing style, my personality dictates it. PK later, my Civ games are like that and later a custom: Gaian, Morganite, Uop, PK combination. A benevolent, knowledge seeking, open-minded, not afraid to make a little money, atheistic, faction. It would hate all three factions whose traits it does not include.
Frank C Manning posted 12-19-98 12:44 AM ET
I'm bullish on the Morgans but I am willing to diversify into UoP and Spartans.
DHE_X2 posted 12-19-98 12:52 AM ET
all I know is that I'm not going to play any custom factions. I'm a purist .
~DHE, SyMbOlZ!
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 12-19-98 11:25 AM ET
I'll take this time to register as a full blown Spartan!! The first one to register, if I didn't miss anything back there. Ya know, we have to make big entrances!
Spartans rule!! Kill Santiago! Replace her with Junack!
Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH
Seely posted 12-19-98 01:01 PM ET
Gotta be The Hive first. Followed closely by Morgan conglomerate and then the Gaians.
UoP? Boring! PK's? Slightly boring! Believers? Aaaah! Spartans? Verrrry boring!
Actually, I'll try all the factions at some point-- but starting with those three-- Hive, Morganites, Gaians. Spartans last for sure, though, they're the most uninteresting faction of all...
Octopus posted 12-19-98 03:49 PM ET
Here's something I cut and pasted from dejanews:
<quote>
You can create custom factions by editing the faction files (or by creating new faction files and art). It is up to you to do the "balancing" of strengths and weaknesses, however, as there is no "point system". It is possible we could add such a system in an expansion.
Social Engineering -> An earlier prototype of SMAC had the social engineering system you describe, but we found this one to be more fun.
Brian Reynolds
Alpha Centauri Designer
FIRAXIS Games
<end quote>
This is a bit disappointing to me, since it means that it will be almost impossible to decide whether custom factions are balanced or not. (Although getting a point system right would be outrageously complicated, so I can understand why they didn't do it). Does this affect anybody's decisions about custom factions?
Gord McLeod posted 12-19-98 04:01 PM ET
Not mine - I love tinkering with systems, and faction systems are no exception. It really doesn't matter to me in the slightest what kind of method is used to allow us to construct custom factions, I would and will use them regardless. IMO the ability to create and use (and trade?) your own factions simply adds to the infinite replayability potential of the game.
Hothram Upravda posted 12-19-98 05:33 PM ET
I agree. I look forward to custom factions for then playing Game Factions. The ability to create my own culture and nations is far more interesting to me then using someone elses.
Hothram Upravda
TB
DarkLight posted 12-19-98 05:49 PM ET
I'll go along with YYYH. Sparta rules!
"There is no need to panic, people of Gaia! Now, lower your gardening tools or be disintegrated."
CyberC posted 12-19-98 05:50 PM ET
I intend to play my first 8 games (probably 8 weeks) in the following sequence
1.) UofP
2.) Spartans
3.) PK
4.) Gaians
5.) Morgan
6.) Hive
7.) Custom
8.) Believers
I think I like UofP best
Vanilja posted 12-19-98 07:41 PM ET
Gaians, of course. After all, I was born under the sign of Taurus...
Pasi posted 12-19-98 08:10 PM ET
Gaians. Period.
Calculus posted 12-19-98 08:11 PM ET
Definitely UoP/Hive
Legoean posted 12-20-98 05:38 PM ET
LORD BELIVERS ALL THE WAY

LONG LIVE Legoland
SnowFire posted 12-20-98 06:09 PM ET
My general preference list:
1.UoP, Gaians.
5.Peacekeepers
6.Spartans, Believers
11.Morgan
36.Hive
Destructor posted 12-20-98 06:16 PM ET
Human Hive first, absolutely.
After that UoP and then PK.
I think I'll do best with UoP, because my playing style is always so research oriented.
SnowFire posted 12-20-98 08:36 PM ET
Which reminds me. One of the good things about no point restrictions is that veterans can make factions like "the Coalition of Radiated dying faction of people over 75" and try and win with them. Or newbies can create ultra-factions and play at the highest levels.
DHE_X2 posted 12-20-98 09:44 PM ET
I'd love to see your irradiated faction leader, Snowfire.
question. WHERE THE F*** HAVE ALL YOU GAIANS BEEN?!?!? I've been on these(Damnit! this) forum for quite a while, and I've only seen two...AAARGHHH!!!!
Gord McLeod posted 12-20-98 09:50 PM ET
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Author	Topic: Faction Preferences
Borodino	posted 12-17-98 12:19 AM ET Just to avoid further debacles as my DotF award for the UoP [not that I'm complaining, not really...], every one please post your faction preference here.
Borodino	posted 12-17-98 12:21 AM ET First off, I really do know that "everyone" is one word not two. Second, I'm a PeaceKeeper.
DHE_X2	posted 12-17-98 12:21 AM ET Morgan/ Pks
player1	posted 12-17-98 12:26 AM ET I'm a Hiver
Jimbo2	posted 12-17-98 12:29 AM ET I'm UoP/Hiver and Player1, join the club already!
Zan Thrax	posted 12-17-98 12:49 AM ET Ideologically, I'm a PKer, I guess, but I'll probably play Hive.
Brother Greg	posted 12-17-98 01:23 AM ET PK.
Andrew Kasantsev	posted 12-17-98 01:24 AM ET UoP. Maybe Hive later.
Octopus	posted 12-17-98 01:24 AM ET Hmmm... This is a tough one... I'm going to have to go with... HIVE HIVE HIVE! (they got MY awards right )
Imran Siddiqui	posted 12-17-98 03:46 AM ET Well, if you don't know this by now, well, you just haven't been paying attention. For all the newbies, I support Morgan Industries. Imran Siddiqui Best Morganite
Gord McLeod	posted 12-17-98 04:57 AM ET A tie between the Gaians and the UoP...
Kedryn	posted 12-17-98 05:51 AM ET The Gaians and the Morganites. And no, I do not have split personality disorder.
BoomBoom	posted 12-17-98 08:27 AM ET UoP and PK. Because I such a diplomaticly minded person.
Roland	posted 12-17-98 09:14 AM ET Well, I do have split personalities, but all of them want to be PK. I'm a peacekeeper and I'm ok wanna trash the Hive all the day... precautionary note: octopus, noooooooo!!!
Frank Moore	posted 12-17-98 01:01 PM ET I want to be able to win with every faction, but I'd have to say that right now I'm probably leaning towards UoP.
jsorense	posted 12-17-98 01:06 PM ET It should come as no surprise to anyone that my first choice would be the Lord's Believers. I always wanted my very own jihad. My second choice will be the Gaians. I guess I'm a sucker for the underdog. jsoresne Bearer of the Faith, Defender of the Faithful, Avenger of Martyrs Bearer of the Fruit, Defender of the Trees, Avenger of the Gene Pool
Zorloc	posted 12-17-98 02:19 PM ET I am definately a UoPer. In every strategy game I win with better tech. But from what I have read, the Step-daughters seem like they will have a step up in the "transcendence" way of winning the game, which would be cool. I love Vorlon sayings. "The avalanche has already begun...it is too late for the peebles to vote."
WilliamC	posted 12-17-98 02:32 PM ET Ideology wise, I'm a bit of a cross between PK's and Gaians. But in Civ2, my playing style would have probably fit the PK's better.
Grosshaus	posted 12-17-98 02:54 PM ET PK, UoP or Morgan. Actually everything else but Hive and Lord's Believers
Keith Bennett	posted 12-17-98 03:00 PM ET I'd probably play a custom Gaian. Start with the Gaian template, add the Diplomacy bonus, and probably remove the efficency bonus... this would make me a diplomat with a weak military and an ability to get along with the planet, plus the Gaian ability to use native units. My mortal enemies would be, of course, the Spartans, who have poor diplomacy, a strong military, and care nothing for the planet and will likely use planetbusters. Alternately, I may keep the efficiency bonus and adopt another disad... but not until I know what / if the second Gaian disad is. Size, military, diplomacy, morale, research, industry, trade, growth, efficency, information, native... whats #12?
Talon	posted 12-17-98 04:58 PM ET I'm definitly going to be the Human Hive, but I may go with Morgan Industries. -Talon 000022
Fluke	posted 12-17-98 05:15 PM ET I'm a sucker for the Gaians even if I normally play CivII like a PK (let's be friends until the computer makes alliances to contain "aggression" from me. That's the signal from the game that you are strong enough to conquer the planet)
Jojo	posted 12-17-98 07:28 PM ET UoP, then Gaian.
Titan	posted 12-17-98 07:39 PM ET I will start playing each faction one time. Then I will use the custom faction option to play the canadian 8th faction. Once I will have play every faction a couple of time, I will most certainly end up creating customs with stats between the one of the peacekeepers, and the one opf the UoP. They will be called the Canadian 8th faction. But I am sure I will try hundreds of possible faction, never playing the same.
JohnD	posted 12-17-98 07:44 PM ET I think it would be fun to tame mindworms and locust swarms. The Human Hive would have to be my second choice, although I'm unable to explain why that is.
Zorloc	posted 12-17-98 09:20 PM ET Probably Yang's mental influence on you...
Spoe	posted 12-17-98 09:25 PM ET Fairly even split: UoP/PK
v114patch	posted 12-17-98 11:09 PM ET Modified Gaians would be a natural first preference, then UoP and PK.
ThRiLL	posted 12-18-98 01:19 AM ET You ask me? It's gotta be. U of P. =) Although the idea of winning a multiplayer as a religious fanatic sounds pretty funny. That's gotta make the other guys squirm. It's bad enough to lose as it is, without knowing that your people are running from a bunch of galactic door-to-door Jehova's Witnesses... (no offense to anybody of any race, religion, color, or factional preference. Religion is a very positive thing to many people. I just don't like people coming to my door to sell me anything, and that includes my eternal salvation.) ...For custom factions, Canadian or bust. Remember... we invented the zipper! We will bury you! -ThRiLL
ThRiLL	posted 12-18-98 01:23 AM ET addendum: re - v114patch... Modified MacDonald's-eatin, strip-minin', baby-sellin', stock-tradin', gun-totin', cigar-smokin', slave-tradin', intern-seducin', Gaians! ...That has potential.
Fluke	posted 12-18-98 02:13 AM ET Everyone wants to modify the Gaians... Is this some Lara Croft thing or something?
Arnelos	posted 12-18-98 02:19 AM ET Where the hell were all of you Gaians for the past 3 months?!?!? We've had a hellish time trying to find ANYONE that agreed or wanted to play the Gaians earlier (the principal reason the Gaian awards went sort of blank and the search for supporters was desperate).
Arnelos	posted 12-18-98 02:21 AM ET For me. . .let me see. . .(BTW, anyone who doesn't already know needs to go read some posts from just about any point for the past 5-6 months or so): PEACEKEEPERS (I do think making a Keepers of Wisdom custom faction to replace the Peacekeepers, which replaced the Keepers back in August, would be cool though. Otherwise, my second choice is UofP, with the Gaians farther behind that.)
Hothram Upravda	posted 12-18-98 03:17 AM ET Ideology: PK Inner Demon: Hive, Lords.
Maya	posted 12-18-98 03:36 AM ET 1) Peacekeepers 2) University of Planet 3) Gaia's Stepdaughters I agree Arnelos. It seems that sudently everyone is playing either the PK, UoP or Gaians. For the UoP, well, we all knew that it was and will be a very popular faction, but for the PK and Gaians? Nobody had the Gaians as a first choice and only a few of us had the PKs. Strange... -Maya
Gord McLeod	posted 12-18-98 04:04 AM ET I don't know, maybe some of us just never really spoke up before. I know I've said at least once that UoP is probably my #1 faction, with #2 being the Gaians and #3 being either the Morganites or the PKers...
Bannor	posted 12-18-98 04:21 AM ET UofP love having the best tech Hive love not worrying about angry mobs of course I will play all the factions some and probably lots of custom factions
Mostly Harmless	posted 12-18-98 04:32 AM ET Human Hive first, then I'll try Morgan Industries. Capitalism and brainwashing all the way!
Arnelos	posted 12-18-98 05:47 PM ET I find that interesting. You scored 100/100 on the Libertarian test (meaning you are as "libertarian" as they come), but you want to play the Human Hive. Intrigueing. You must have read Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD last night or something :-)
Arnelos	posted 12-18-98 05:54 PM ET Interesting. Maya and I have the exact same faction preferences. I don't know what Maya's reasons are, but mine are pretty good: 1. PK = I study social science and I am an internationalist. 2. UofP = I also have a strong interest in planetary science, the dept. where I probably spend more of my time than any other dept. My favorite author is Carl Sagan, how could I NOT want to play the UofP? 3. Gaian = Planetary Science is the closest field to recognizing the natural beauty of other planets and our own.
Baldor	posted 12-18-98 05:58 PM ET Hive... most definatly Hive.
The Thomas A Stobie	posted 12-18-98 06:09 PM ET In coming up with my preferences for which faction I want to play, I need to play each one and see how well it suits one of my playing styles. Some should better suit how I want to play (at the movement) than others. Some factions may be better suited for long term growth, others for drawn out combat. I would recommend that you try the different factions trying to maximize their benefits before selecting which faction you prefer. Likewise, you may find factions that you can play well, but do not like to. Those I play to avoid when I find them.
Octopus	posted 12-18-98 10:23 PM ET Thomas, I think everybody knows that they'll need to try out the different factions. However, some of the advantages and disadvantages of the different factions ARE known (e.g. the Hive has good industry, Morgan has lots of cash) so people can extrapolate from their past experiences with these games to know their playing styles (I liked the Mecklars in MOO1 because of their industry, and I almost never have any cash reserves lying around when I play Civ II, so I suspect the Hive will sit better with my style than the Morgans). In addition, it's just a lot more fun to pick a faction and fight for them here on the forums.
Shining1	posted 12-18-98 11:55 PM ET Gaian All The Way!
Victor Galis	posted 12-19-98 12:04 AM ET Uop first. It is my playing style, my personality dictates it. PK later, my Civ games are like that and later a custom: Gaian, Morganite, Uop, PK combination. A benevolent, knowledge seeking, open-minded, not afraid to make a little money, atheistic, faction. It would hate all three factions whose traits it does not include.
Frank C Manning	posted 12-19-98 12:44 AM ET I'm bullish on the Morgans but I am willing to diversify into UoP and Spartans.
DHE_X2	posted 12-19-98 12:52 AM ET all I know is that I'm not going to play any custom factions. I'm a purist . ~DHE, SyMbOlZ!
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey	posted 12-19-98 11:25 AM ET I'll take this time to register as a full blown Spartan!! The first one to register, if I didn't miss anything back there. Ya know, we have to make big entrances! Spartans rule!! Kill Santiago! Replace her with Junack! Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general, YYYH
Seely	posted 12-19-98 01:01 PM ET Gotta be The Hive first. Followed closely by Morgan conglomerate and then the Gaians. UoP? Boring! PK's? Slightly boring! Believers? Aaaah! Spartans? Verrrry boring! Actually, I'll try all the factions at some point-- but starting with those three-- Hive, Morganites, Gaians. Spartans last for sure, though, they're the most uninteresting faction of all...
Octopus	posted 12-19-98 03:49 PM ET Here's something I cut and pasted from dejanews: <quote> You can create custom factions by editing the faction files (or by creating new faction files and art). It is up to you to do the "balancing" of strengths and weaknesses, however, as there is no "point system". It is possible we could add such a system in an expansion. Social Engineering -> An earlier prototype of SMAC had the social engineering system you describe, but we found this one to be more fun. Brian Reynolds Alpha Centauri Designer FIRAXIS Games <end quote> This is a bit disappointing to me, since it means that it will be almost impossible to decide whether custom factions are balanced or not. (Although getting a point system right would be outrageously complicated, so I can understand why they didn't do it). Does this affect anybody's decisions about custom factions?
Gord McLeod	posted 12-19-98 04:01 PM ET Not mine - I love tinkering with systems, and faction systems are no exception. It really doesn't matter to me in the slightest what kind of method is used to allow us to construct custom factions, I would and will use them regardless. IMO the ability to create and use (and trade?) your own factions simply adds to the infinite replayability potential of the game.
Hothram Upravda	posted 12-19-98 05:33 PM ET I agree. I look forward to custom factions for then playing Game Factions. The ability to create my own culture and nations is far more interesting to me then using someone elses. Hothram Upravda TB
DarkLight	posted 12-19-98 05:49 PM ET I'll go along with YYYH. Sparta rules! "There is no need to panic, people of Gaia! Now, lower your gardening tools or be disintegrated."
CyberC	posted 12-19-98 05:50 PM ET I intend to play my first 8 games (probably 8 weeks) in the following sequence 1.) UofP 2.) Spartans 3.) PK 4.) Gaians 5.) Morgan 6.) Hive 7.) Custom 8.) Believers I think I like UofP best
Vanilja	posted 12-19-98 07:41 PM ET Gaians, of course. After all, I was born under the sign of Taurus...
Pasi	posted 12-19-98 08:10 PM ET Gaians. Period.
Calculus	posted 12-19-98 08:11 PM ET Definitely UoP/Hive
Legoean	posted 12-20-98 05:38 PM ET LORD BELIVERS ALL THE WAY LONG LIVE Legoland
SnowFire	posted 12-20-98 06:09 PM ET My general preference list: 1.UoP, Gaians. 5.Peacekeepers 6.Spartans, Believers 11.Morgan 36.Hive
Destructor	posted 12-20-98 06:16 PM ET Human Hive first, absolutely. After that UoP and then PK. I think I'll do best with UoP, because my playing style is always so research oriented.
SnowFire	posted 12-20-98 08:36 PM ET Which reminds me. One of the good things about no point restrictions is that veterans can make factions like "the Coalition of Radiated dying faction of people over 75" and try and win with them. Or newbies can create ultra-factions and play at the highest levels.
DHE_X2	posted 12-20-98 09:44 PM ET I'd love to see your irradiated faction leader, Snowfire. question. WHERE THE F*** HAVE ALL YOU GAIANS BEEN?!?!? I've been on these(Damnit! this) forum for quite a while, and I've only seen two...AAARGHHH!!!!
Gord McLeod	posted 12-20-98 09:50 PM ET We've been communing with Planet's sentient spirit...