The mistakes of the past - Alpha Centauri Forums

  Alpha Centauri Forums
  Old Test Forums
  The mistakes of the past

profile | register | prefs | faq | search

Author Topic:   The mistakes of the past

BKK the Mentat posted 12-12-98 02:19 AM ET
Would humanity be doomed to live out the same mistakes it has made on Earth no matter where we relocated to?
DHE_X2 posted 12-12-98 05:21 PM ET
Yeah, most definatly. Greed, hate, ignorance, arrogance, etc. are part of human nature, therefore the actions resulting from those traits will be done wherever we relocate. the best we can do is to supress those undesirable traits, and minimize the resulting actions.
SnowFire posted 12-12-98 09:28 PM ET
Nope. It should relocate to ancient Sinai, as when the Israelis were in exile their rules people wrote down all the laws and it seems all the bad people got eaten by earth, smitten by fire, etc. A pretty good incentive to act nicely in my humble opinion.
DHE_X2 posted 12-13-98 12:17 AM ET
Yeah, but without anything short of divine intervention or (possibly) incredibly harsh law, there'd always be someone who is crazy enough to commit genocide, etc.
Kurn posted 12-13-98 04:28 AM ET
I got two words for you: THE HIVE
If we can find a way to eliminate greed from our people, then the world might be a more perfect place. Then again, it might turn us all into unemotional Vulcan bastards. Either way, we will get to drink lots of beer, so lets do it!
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 12-13-98 11:30 AM ET
Hey, you get to drink lots of beer over at the Spartans, without turning into emotionless Vulcans! What could be better, keep your dignity & drink beer, c'mon!
Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH
SnowFire posted 12-13-98 05:21 PM ET
Nope. View the Chin dynasty in ancient China, after Shi Huang Ti reunifed China, he instituted an incredibly harsh system of laws. The result was that after his death, massive revolts toppled the empire without his genius on the throne. I think what started them were a platoon of draftees stuck in the mud, doing some project:
"What's the penalty for being late?"
"Death."
"What's the penalty for revolt?"
"Death."
"Well guess what? We're late!"
They slaughtered their officers and revolted. And the rest was history. That's why heavenly harsh punishments can work but earthly ones don't.
DHE_X2 posted 12-13-98 05:35 PM ET
True, but in Smac the leaders never die. Also, thats why I added that possibly in there.
To close this thread, click here (moderator or admin only).


Hop to:

Contact Us | Alpha Centauri Home

Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.18
© Madrona Park, Inc., 1998.

Author	Topic: The mistakes of the past
BKK the Mentat	posted 12-12-98 02:19 AM ET Would humanity be doomed to live out the same mistakes it has made on Earth no matter where we relocated to?
DHE_X2	posted 12-12-98 05:21 PM ET Yeah, most definatly. Greed, hate, ignorance, arrogance, etc. are part of human nature, therefore the actions resulting from those traits will be done wherever we relocate. the best we can do is to supress those undesirable traits, and minimize the resulting actions.
SnowFire	posted 12-12-98 09:28 PM ET Nope. It should relocate to ancient Sinai, as when the Israelis were in exile their rules people wrote down all the laws and it seems all the bad people got eaten by earth, smitten by fire, etc. A pretty good incentive to act nicely in my humble opinion.
DHE_X2	posted 12-13-98 12:17 AM ET Yeah, but without anything short of divine intervention or (possibly) incredibly harsh law, there'd always be someone who is crazy enough to commit genocide, etc.
Kurn	posted 12-13-98 04:28 AM ET I got two words for you: THE HIVE If we can find a way to eliminate greed from our people, then the world might be a more perfect place. Then again, it might turn us all into unemotional Vulcan bastards. Either way, we will get to drink lots of beer, so lets do it!
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey	posted 12-13-98 11:30 AM ET Hey, you get to drink lots of beer over at the Spartans, without turning into emotionless Vulcans! What could be better, keep your dignity & drink beer, c'mon! Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general, YYYH
SnowFire	posted 12-13-98 05:21 PM ET Nope. View the Chin dynasty in ancient China, after Shi Huang Ti reunifed China, he instituted an incredibly harsh system of laws. The result was that after his death, massive revolts toppled the empire without his genius on the throne. I think what started them were a platoon of draftees stuck in the mud, doing some project: "What's the penalty for being late?" "Death." "What's the penalty for revolt?" "Death." "Well guess what? We're late!" They slaughtered their officers and revolted. And the rest was history. That's why heavenly harsh punishments can work but earthly ones don't.
DHE_X2	posted 12-13-98 05:35 PM ET True, but in Smac the leaders never die. Also, thats why I added that possibly in there.