posted 11-25-98 11:45 AM ET        

yet I also noticed that many of you choosed different movies from the different ST movies !!!

Anyways .. I was curious as to how you would rank the ST:Movies !!!

posted 11-25-98 07:16 PM ET            

Generations' concentration on life and death was commendable. The second level analysis of this film was most enjoyable, you just had to be thinking beyond "I want to see lots of big explosions!"

I find STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK to be the best and most thought-provoking of all of the Star Trek fills and is by far my favorite.

So, my list (in order):

posted 11-25-98 10:47 PM ET            

My order:
1) 8:First Contact (would have been a good movie even if it wasn't Trek)
2) 2:The Wrath of Khan
3) 6:The Undiscovered Country
4) 4:The Voyage Home (a lot of old-Trek is funny DJ, like "A Piece of the Action").
5) 3:The Search for Spock
6) 1:The Motion Picture
7) 5 subtitle?)
8) 7:Generations. Awful!

posted 11-27-98 01:43 AM ET            

Star Trek 1: The Motion Picture
(plot concerned the Voyager probe returning to Earth)

Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan
(plot concerned, well, the wrath of Khan)

Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock
(plot concerned the rebirth, search, and mental reformation of spock's sentient being)

Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home
(plot concerned saving the whales)

Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier
(plot concerned the search for god. Considering it was directed by William Shatner, is it any surprise that it was really lame???)

Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country
(plot concerned the fear of the future and the mistrust of mutual adversaries of the possibility of a peaceful future)

Star Trek 7: Generations (title was actually simply Star Trek Generations)
(plot concerned a madman trying to get to the nexus, where Captain Kirk was brought back from to stop the madman for killing life on a pre-warp world)

posted 11-27-98 01:48 AM ET            

1: Electronic Sentience

2: Death

3: Rebirth, Resurection

4: Save the Whales, conservation

5: The Search for God

6: Hatred and Mistrust

7: The Fear of Death

8: No overall theme, but it did have several minor ones: Revenge and Obsession, The Hope of a Better Future (sorta main theme), etc.

posted 11-27-98 06:45 AM ET            

And the way they killed Kirk was unforgivable !!!

posted 11-27-98 01:06 PM ET            

This was like a long episode !!!

posted 11-27-98 02:11 PM ET            

Anyone else know anything about the queen ???

posted 11-27-98 06:05 PM ET            

the best though has to be First Contact with a tie with number2.

the worst has to be Generations what were they smoking on when they made that! and how the hell could they kill kurk.

my jugments could be off cause when i saw the first 6 i was too young to understand some of the plot. But for sure nothing is off when i said Generations sucked.

anyone whatch any of the series.

Generations is still the best overall with all the shows.

DS9 is second just because with all the federation vs. the dominon

Voyager it's pretty good but has nothing really to remember

i know the origanel is probably better than DS9 and voyager but i haven't seen alot of them so i cant really say where it sould go.

ah hell were talking startrek here so i might as well add this too. whats your favorite civilization in ST amd whats your favorite ship.

civ: federation

ship: the vorcha

posted 11-27-98 06:15 PM ET            

in contact did it show how the enterprise got back?

i also get confused when i count the enterprises any one know which movie each came in?

posted 11-27-98 11:53 PM ET            

my favourite civ would most likely be, in decending order:
Federation, Vulcan, Romulan, Bajoran, Klingon, Borg, Cardassian

uniforms: the ones from First Contact and new DS9 episodes, and after that, the ones in the ST movies between ST2-ST6

posted 11-28-98 03:26 AM ET            

Favorite Enterprise:
Enterprise-E

posted 11-28-98 04:05 AM ET            

My favorite uniforms are definitely the ones introduced in "The Wrath of Khan" (they actually look like they might be uniforms, so you can take the people wearing them seriously).

posted 11-28-98 05:04 AM ET            

STAR TREK II: The Wrath of Khan
(music by James Horner)

STAR TREK III: The Search for Spock
(music by James Horner)

STAR TREK IV: The Voyage Home
(music by ???)

STAR TREK V: The Final Frontier
(music by Jerry Goldsmith)

STAR TREK VI: The Undiscovered Country
(music by ???)

STAR TREK VII (Star Trek Generations)
(music by Denis McCarthy)

STAR TREK VIII (Star Trek: First Contact)
(music by Jerry Goldsmith)

Personally, the one major redeeming characteristic of the otherwise rather dull Generations was the musical score. For this reason, I bought the soundtrack, but not the video :-)

posted 11-28-98 11:11 AM ET            

Who was it Evek I think and Dukat !!!
The guy on DS9 is good too !!!

Anyways, the Ferengi are the most useless civ !!! They had so much potential .. and actually, they were supposed to be really evil, but a script writter mistook evil for greedy of something like that, and all was lost !!!

posted 11-28-98 11:48 AM ET            

and to answer my two questions
Uniforms- ST2-ST6, then TNG.
i hate the uniforms with the gray on the top and a colour under shirt

Enterprise- D and E. Q Cubed soveriegn class larger or smaller than the Galaxy Class

anyone see the ship for the new movie on the site. i'm scared cause it looks like voyager and i personal don't like the look of voyager all blue.

posted 12-16-98 10:47 AM ET            

Mine is now

2,8,9,3,6,4,1,5,7 !!!

posted 12-17-98 12:32 AM ET            

The Galaxy-class starships are around 500-600m long...big, with capacity of over 5000 or so according to the ST:TNG Tech Manual (yes, i bought that thing ), but the Enterprise only had 1014 or so...one would assume that it had lotsa empty space, then.
The Sovereign-class, however, are around 700m in length, and their capacity has never been defined, but the increase in size brings one to the conclusion that it does have more room.

As for the ships getting darker, it's just a trend...

Also, regarding Sovereign- and Intrepid- class ships looking flatter and more elongated...supposedly in the ST Universe, it's supposed to be because of an advent in warp drive technology, but the series editors claimed to make them that way to look "more muscular, sexier, and more powerful looking" - and that's a direct quote.

The Intrepid-Class starships are based on designs named the Nova-Class in the ST:TNG technical manual...if any of you have that book, look in the back, and read the descriptions and look at the schematics...you'll see that it combines many of the features in each. If you don't have the book, get it, or at least thumb through it.

Also, in ST:8 First Contact, Picard says to Lily that in the future, money doesn't exist...yet in the episode where Ensign Ro Laren joins the Maquis, Picard says he doesn't have enough money to pay her...curious...don't mind that last comment, i rarely nitpick with Star Trek or Science Fiction in general unless it is atrocious.

posted 12-17-98 07:17 AM ET            

The only one worth seeing in a cinema is ST: 8, First contact. It's the only one with enough plot not to be just a bloated TV episode. The other ones are OK on TV, if no real quality SF is being shown (and then I'd still really prefer being with my family, playing computer games, or reading, to watching any of them...).

Of course, I'm a cineast and science fiction aficionado, rather than a trekkie...

In fact, I think it more important to list a number of REALLY good SF movies here, to offset all the stuff on ST (So, I'm going off-off-topic? Sue me.). In no particular order:

Stanley Kubrick:
"2001 - A Space Odyssey",
"A Clockwork Orange",
"Doctor Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying, and start to love the bomb" (or sth. along those lines)

Terry Gilliam:
"Twelve monkeys"
"Brazil"
"Time bandits" (if it qualifies as SF, that is...)

Ridley Scott:
"Blade runner"
"Alien"

Andrei Tarkovsky:
"Solaris"
"Stalker"
Sadly, I haven't seen his "Offret"/"The Sacrifice" which can be seen as SF
(Off-off-off-topic: SEE his "Ivanovo detstvo"/"Ivan's childhood" and "Andrei Rublev", non-SF, but among the absolutely best films ever made! Better than the above SF stuff...)

Kathryn Bigelow:
"Strange Days"

Umm, and quite a few more. Get back to you later.