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| Author | Topic: The essence of Finland |
| Grosshaus |
posted 11-19-98 06:04 PM ET  
It's very common here in Finland to discuss about how little people know about us. Normally people think that nobody knows anything and furthermore nobody cares. Now prove me wrong! The rules: 2)Ken t�st� selv�� saa saa kaiken toivon heitt�� vastaamisesta |
| AUH20 |
posted 11-19-98 06:08 PM ET
Hm. If I recall correctly, Finland is the only country to pay its war debts to the US. |
| Grosshaus |
posted 11-19-98 06:11 PM ET
I don't know if other countries have payd their debts, but correct, Finland did. |
| AUH20 |
posted 11-19-98 06:15 PM ET
And in the marketplace its somewhat more liberal than Sweden, thank goodness. And they fought off the Russians because they Russians could cross the mountains. ANd FInnish is one of the more difficult languages to learn. |
| Andrew Kasantsev |
posted 11-19-98 08:29 PM ET
OK, You've ask for it...  Alcohol in Finnland is very expensive, so Finns drive to Russia (St.Petersburg mostly) and drink it there until full mind blank. Then they are loaded in buses and return to Finnland...  |
| DCA |
posted 11-19-98 08:37 PM ET
Alcohol is expensive in Finland? Try Norway - $35 for a lousy bottle of Finlandia! Sometimes I just HATE my country....... |
| Andrew Kasantsev |
posted 11-19-98 08:58 PM ET
And in Russia you can buy 0.5 litres of vodka (or some analog) for ~$2 - or less, if quality is not an option. |
| Borodino |
posted 11-19-98 10:08 PM ET
1. Finland is the only Axis-aligned nation which the US did not declare war upon during WWII because Finland had joined the war only because the Soviets attacked them first. [Correct?] 2. Finland is reputed to be the most wired nation on Earth. 3. Finnish is one of ~four European languages that are not Indo-European [the others being Basque, Turkish, and Hungarian]. 4. Finns love their sauna! 5. I'm roughly fifty percent Finnish. My mother's maiden name is Joupperi. That side of the family moved to the US about 1900. |
| Borodino |
posted 11-19-98 10:10 PM ET
BTW, what does "toivon" mean? [I ask primarily because my great-grand-uncle's first name was Toivo.] |
| AUH20 |
posted 11-19-98 10:18 PM ET
Estonian is in the same language group as Finnish, I believe. I hope the Finns don't hit anybody driving back drunk. |
| Tom |
posted 11-19-98 10:39 PM ET
Toivo means to wish, I think. |
| Spoe |
posted 11-19-98 10:59 PM ET
Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, is from Finland(and is part of the Swedish speaking population). |
| Tapiolan poika |
posted 11-20-98 04:14 AM ET
Tom, Borodino: Correct, 'toivo' is the imperative form of the verb 'to wish'. |
| Roland |
posted 11-20-98 07:00 AM ET
Again, I'm wondering where this post will end up. Please, not in the middle... Finland.... A bit more than 5 million people. About 300k+ square km - almost the size of Germany Has been part of sweden till the early 19 th century, then part of Russia, but under its own constitution. Independent 1917/18 Attacked by the USSR in 1940. Hold the Mannerheim-line for a long time though being totally outnumbered. had to seize Carelia and some other border areas to the USSR. In 1941, though not officially allied with the axis, stated a "continuation war" agianst the USSR. Made peace in 1944, having to give back Carelia (again). Neutral during the cold war. Severe recession after the collapse of the USSR. Then quite strong recovery. Joined EU in 1995, will join the Euro in 1999. And I should have an aunt in Finland. Just don't know anything in detail.. my grandfather was in finland/norway as a german soldier, and became the father of a child there. |
| Antti |
posted 11-20-98 08:10 AM ET
Just a little clarification on Toivo-issue. Altough Tom and Son of Tapiola are both right, as a subject and name it means "hope". A common name given early this century, when things seemed, well, quite hopeless.. |
| Jay |
posted 11-20-98 10:04 AM ET
If anyone is intrested about it, I happen to be a resident of Finland. Ja sitten kaikki jotka ymm�rt�v�t t�t� postatkaa t�nn� ja kertokaa miss� asutte yms... |
| MikeH II |
posted 11-20-98 10:24 AM ET
Son of Tapiola Doesn't sound quite as good in English does it Franjo? |
| Jeje |
posted 11-20-98 10:27 AM ET
Next is in Finnsh, SORRY (Just invating the Finns in this forum to multiplay.)Grosshaus, Antti & Jay. Hyv�� p�iv��. Joten nyt meit� on jo nelj� ja ajattelin tiedustella kiinnostustanne verkkopeliin. Jos on kiinnostusta, niin profiilini l�ytyy ja pist�k�� postia. Jos t�t� ryhm�� seuraa useampi suomalainen, (vanhassa l�ysin muutaman) niin mukaan vain. |
| LehtiTeam |
posted 11-20-98 10:55 AM ET
No emm� jaksa... Ehk� joskus... |
| Peke |
posted 11-20-98 01:14 PM ET
Muuten kyll� kiitos, mutta modeemi ei toimi. Ehk� my�hemmin, kunhan asia setviintyy.. |
| Grosshaus |
posted 11-22-98 12:55 PM ET
Andrev Kasantsev: Finns go normally to Estonia to drink, sorry. But yeah, trips to Russia are also popular. Although an average Finn dislikes Russians and thinks that nothing works in there. AUH20: We do. On Friday evening my friend crashed his girlfriends car on a tree in our yard. Watch out! Roland: The recession was primarily because of us opening our currency markets. The collapse of USSR didn't help, but it wasn't the most important reason. Where in Finland did your grandfather stay? I mean my mothers cousin shares your aunts destiny and she lives in Tornio. Borodino: Half of the population has already a cellular phone, no need for wires I was actually hoping for crazy images like the one Andrev had. Well that was a fact, but still... And for the other Finns: Nettipeli kelpaa joskus parin viikon p��st� kun taas alkaa kerki�m��n. Kokeet painaa p��lle. |
| Andrew Kasantsev |
posted 11-22-98 08:01 PM ET
>Andrev Kasantsev: Finns go normally to >Estonia to drink, sorry. But yeah, trips to >Russia are also popular. Although an average >Finn dislikes Russians and thinks that >nothing works in there. I know, I know... |
| Roland |
posted 11-23-98 12:32 PM ET
grosshaus: "Where in Finland did your grandfather stay? I mean my mothers cousin shares your aunts destiny and she lives in Tornio." I don't know. He died some years ago, and he never talked about it. THe family found out only about 10 years ago. I'd have to ask my mother whether she knows anything more about it. Does your mother's cousin know the name of her father ? |
| CEO Landon |
posted 11-24-98 06:49 PM ET
Finland is the only place I know of that has an annual wife-carrrying contest. As I recall, it is a race through an obstacle course where the men are required to carry their wife. I think it's part of some summer festival(?) Also, it seems that ski-jumping is a sport where Finland has produced some top Olympians. |
| Tolls |
posted 11-25-98 08:44 AM ET
I think the prize is the woman's weight in beer...which is nice. |
| Tolls |
posted 11-25-98 08:49 AM ET
http://www.starbulletin.com/lite/finn.htm This is a story about the comp...or is it all a hoax... |
| DJ RRebel |
posted 11-25-98 08:57 AM ET
Actually, the best Ski jumper of all time was british: Long live Eddy the Eagle !!! Anyways, I was in Helsinki in 1990 as part of an exchange trip with school in grade 11 !!! It was only for a day !!! But I did get to see the city and a few sites !!! I remember their McDonalds was a BABE central !!! lol .. So many babes all over ... lol !!! Anyways, IIRC, Helsinki is the most expensive city in Europe !!! Finland has 5-6 virtually equal political parties, and it's not uncommon for a party to win a minority government with only 25% of the vote !!! (I could be very wrong on that though) I remember sneaking out at night (4-5am or so) to walk around the city and caught sunrise In what I think was the Eastern part of downtown ... very nice City !!! But my memories have faded ... I'd love to return some day !!! |
| DJ RRebel |
posted 11-25-98 09:05 AM ET
LOL .. BTW .. the title of this thread sounds like you're talking about some kind of perfume !!! |
| Grosshaus |
posted 11-29-98 03:02 PM ET
Sorry Roland, my facts were wrong. I asked my mother and now I know. She's not related to me, just lived near my mother. And that was in Turtola not Tornio. Her name is now Pia Vestola, I don't remember her maiden name. She has never had any contact with his father, so I don't know a lot. And it would be extremely weird if she was the same person, because my mother knows 10 more persons that live in Lapland and have a German father. Quite understandable, when Finnish soldiers fought in the south and only men in the north were German soldiers. During that discussion I also found out that my granddads brother served in SS-forces in Russia and got killed there. Black sheep of the family and I could sense that it was difficult for mom to tell it to me. Well I knew he got killed in the war but now she told me the SS part. Anyways, is it considered a shame to the family in Germany and Austria if someones graddad was an ethuastic nazi? |
| Roland |
posted 11-30-98 05:17 AM ET
Depends on your political views... Some people think the SS was oh so great, and I always want to kick theses people's faces around. My family had a strong "red" (socialist/social democratic) tradition; just one grand-uncle of mine was in the SS, and he was drafted (happened only late in the war AFAIK). My grandfathers, one was in Finland and Norway with the "Gebirgsj�ger", the other one worked in the fire brigade in Ploesti/Rumania (oil fields) and almost died in one of the allied bomber attacks, so he did not have a very high opinion of the allies, somewhat understandable. But still, an enthusiastic Nazi would not have been the pride of my family, to say the least... |
| tOFfGI |
posted 11-30-98 09:14 AM ET
Finland used to be an integral part Sweden for 300 years, so we swedes should know quite a bit about the history of finland. And we do... I Just don't have the time to write it all down. |
| Jeje |
posted 12-01-98 03:56 AM ET
tOFfGi: Like we in finland say: "Ei ne suuret sanat vaan ne pienet teot" Rough translation is something like that one can boast a lot and still do nothing. |
| Marian |
posted 12-06-98 08:58 AM ET
I have an exchange student from Finland living in my house. She is nice and already told me alot about it. Small country, few people, but they are very nice. I just couldn't stand the cold Ciao Marian |
| Marian |
posted 12-06-98 09:07 AM ET
Lucky guy, I just can read your first sentence because of my finnish exchange student. So, am I allowed to answer ? Ciao Marian |
| Marian |
posted 12-06-98 09:41 AM ET
moi kaikki suomalaiset! oon saksas vaihtarina, niinku marian jo kertoki.oli hauska lukee pitk�st aikaa jotain suomesta!on totta et ulkomaalaiset ei paljoo suomest tii�.tosin olin ilosesti yll�ttyny lueetuani noi 7 sivuu... Ciao Marian |
| Marian |
posted 12-06-98 09:42 AM ET
Marian |
| DCA |
posted 12-06-98 10:17 AM ET
immanuel kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable heidegger heidegger was a boozy beggar david hume cold outconsume and wittgenstein was a beery swine etc DCA, |
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