posted 11-17-98 06:58 AM ET        

It's good to see everyone getting so into their factions already.

Anyway to paraphrase The Thomas A. Stobie:
This thread is for discussions of faction propaganda, what role will it have on Chiron? Will there be an organised global media network? I don't think any of the factions would really want their people to know what was going on. Maybe the peacekeepers would be an exception to that.

posted 11-17-98 12:51 PM ET            

Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
-Will Durant

Education makes people easy to lead, but difficult to drive; easy to
govern, but impossible to enslave.
--Henry Peter Brougham

Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
--Edward Everett

And some hive quotes as well!!:

We must see that consciousness is neither an isolated soul nor the mere
function of a single nervous system, but of that totality of interrelated stars
and galaxies which makes a nervous system possible.

-Alan Watts

And a whole lot of Spartan Quotes:

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other
bastard die for his.
-George Patton

Wars teach us not to love our enemies, but to hate our allies.
-W.L.George

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
-Albert Einstein

It is well that war is so terrible, or we should get too fond of it.
-Robert E. Lee

The tragedy of war is that it uses man's best to do man's worst.
--Harry Emerson Fosdick

The grim fact is that we prepare for war like precocious giants, and for
peace like retarded pygmies.
--Lester Bowles Pearson

The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility.
--John A. Fisher

And morganites (I'm on a roll, or am I sad?):

Honesty is the best policy - when there is money in it.
-Mark Twain

The safest way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in
your pocket.
--Kin Hubbard

posted 11-17-98 01:47 PM ET            

Yikes! That stuff is awful!

posted 11-21-98 07:21 PM ET            

Quick everyone, the Human Hive shot some girl scouts of the peacekeepers, we have the pictures!! All of us must rise against the Human Hive's horrible atrocity, & wipe their commie asses of Chiron!! They are only holding human evolution back, perhaps even dragging it back several centuries, by their mere presence here. Do you want a species that does what the commie bastard who leads them tells them to do?? Or do you want freedom, & the expansion of our species?

Join the Alliance Against the Human Hive(AAHH) today!!

That felt good.

posted 11-21-98 07:34 PM ET            

Well, since this is faction PROPOGANDA!

Quick, everyone, The Human Hive's soldiers have been shooting girl scouts! We need to stop these evil atrocities NOW! Your country, democracy, liberty demands that you take up arms against this evil enemy, we will wipe their commie asses of Chiron. The Human Hive call themselves a step forward in our evolution, they're more like a step back! They opress expression, humans one great trait. We must stop them before they plunge into a new Dark Age, except this one will last forever. All people who crave freedom, must fight for the freedom of others. We will liberate the Human Hive, & save humanity from this dark age. We must save ourselves from destruction, we must kill the Human Hive.

Join the Spartan Army today, advocates of freedom, fighters of oppression, leaders of democracy!

Heh, isn't propoganda fun!

posted 11-17-98 05:38 PM ET            

Spartans?! Please. The Peacekeepers have the true ideal in their society. They realize that combat is not necessary for a true society, in which all have equal rights and protection according to the law.

No, no, no! The Morgans have the true ideals! Money and business lead to power and power leads to victory. The Morgans will prevail due to their shrewd business power and their ability to drive the other factions into the ground through superior industry! Viva la Morgan!

posted 11-30-98 09:51 AM ET            

As people of freedom, we must strive to give other Human Beings that same chance to be free. We must arm ourselves, & liberate these people, let them know what it's like to be free! All non-Hive people are evil and must be destroyed at all costs!

Loyal Hive Members (which would be all of us), we must cleanse humanity of those that would be against us. The scouts are evil and must be destroyed at all costs!!!!

posted 11-17-98 05:42 PM ET            

"War is Peace, Love is Hate, Freedom is Slavery"

posted 11-30-98 01:52 PM ET            

Octopus, The Human Hive knows no psychiatry besides the mind control one. They wouldn't fix a mentally unstable patient. It would be more efficient to sacrifice that one, than to waste precious resources on saving him. That is where the Spartans come in. We value all soldiers, & all of our citizens, & we will gladly fix them up, so they can fight again.

This better not wind up in the middle!

posted 11-17-98 06:22 PM ET            

"The mighty Spartan Empire is going to kick the hell out of everyone on Planet. And after we are done bashing in your skulls, we are going to steal your socks and use them to strangle your domestic animals."

posted 11-17-98 09:15 PM ET            

I don't like Catholicism, but this pic is awesome.

I don't like the name ether.

posted 11-17-98 09:24 PM ET            

lol...

posted 11-17-98 09:28 PM ET            

Now I think its time for their Shredder pistol practice.

posted 11-17-98 09:35 PM ET            

Are you sick and tired of war? Sick and tired of hatred? Sick and tired of bickering?

Do you wish for freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of individuality?

Then join with Brother Lal and the Peacekeepers in their fight against tyranny, opression and greed. Join in the struggle for the universal rights of man.

Brother Greg.

posted 11-17-98 11:27 PM ET            

How long will the Spartan soldiers stay loyal when they live such a Spartan lifestyle and marvel at the odds of Morgan?

How long will Gaians be content to use leaves for toilet paper?

How long will the Hive be part of a Hive?

How long will the Believer's last without alchohol?

posted 11-18-98 01:27 AM ET            

For the Peacekeepers, and our (according the all the previews, faction descriptions, and the srory) fascination with the cyclical nature of history and breaking the cycle of destruction, we would use some quotes:

(I suggest putting some of these up on your website RyanR at http://home.pon.net/res/pks
)

For Us:

"Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world."
- Immanuel Kant

"The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one."
-Albert Einstein

"We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say that only the educated are free."
-Epictetus

"What is hateful to thyself do not do to another. That is the whole Law, the rest is Commentary."
- Hillel

"Truth is certainly a branch of morality and a very important one to society."
- Thomas Jefferson

Arguing against other factions' Ideology:

UofP and Believers:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
-Albert Einstein

Hive and Believers:

"Truth is certainly a branch of morality and a very important one to society."
- Thomas Jefferson

"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt."
- H.L. Mencken

Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom.
- Herbert Spencer

For Morgan:

"The ideals which have always shone before me and filled me with the joy of living are goodness, beauty, and truth. To make a goal of comfort or happiness has never appealed to me; a system of ethics built on this basis would be sufficient only for a herd of cattle."
-Albert Einstein

Morgan and Spartan:

"I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over oneself."
-Aristotle

Spartan:

"The ultimate value of life depends upon awareness, and the power of contemplation rather than upon mere survival."
-Aristotle

Believers and Gaians:

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
-Winston Churchhill

Hive:

"It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error."
-U.S. Supremem Court Justice Robert H. Jackson, 1950

Believers:

Ubi dubium ibi libertas
"Where there is doubt, there is freedom"
-Latin Proverb

posted 11-18-98 11:29 AM ET            

pssst, hey buddy you need a new car? Here just tell us what MikeH says in his war room. There is a lot more in it for you then you can imagine. Bang. oh he is dead.

posted 11-18-98 11:49 AM ET            

If the Spartans are not motivated by money (I know you will find that a difficult concept to grasp) then you can't bribe them.

posted 11-18-98 04:28 PM ET            

An interesting quote for you faction propagandists-- This is, however, a Believer quote, aimed more directly at organizations like UoP and Morganites, and to a lesser extent The Hive--
"For what does it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"
Matthew 16:25 (that verse may be wrong)
Okay, so that's out of character, me being a Hive supporter and all, but I really like that quote!

Ahem, back to Hive propaganda--
When man lives for Self, Humanity suffers.

posted 11-18-98 04:57 PM ET            

The Hive welcomes all free-thinkers who can escape from the shackles of their individual-ist brainwashing. The Hive encourages all its members to think for themselves, so that each may make his or her best effort to help the Hive.

Calling names or shouting pointless slogans will not stop the Hive. The Hive will triumph. Those who say that Hive will fail are sadly deluded. However, even they can be helped. There is a place in the Hive for any who wish to be free of oppression, and free of the obligation to oppress others. The harmonious cooperation of the Hive will free your mind and your spirit.

posted 11-18-98 07:33 PM ET            

Holy Joe Believer goes up to Mike the botanist

"Hello Mike"
"Hello Joe"
"Let me see your hand Mike"
Mike extends his hand
Joe pulls out a lighter and lights the palm of Mikes hand on fire
Mike says " Ahhhhh! What the !@$!#@"
Joe: "That's what hells like. Wanna go there"

This is all a joke. laugh laugh laugh

I can see the flames now
Tyrone the Spartan " Hey Joe I'm gonna blow your !#@@# head off if I see you again !"

Sigh.....

posted 11-19-98 06:03 PM ET            

Controlling native lifeforms looks neat

and besides.. If there's no countryside, there's no apples. (Not sure if the non-brits will understand that one).

For the Gaians everywhere (I other words me and some old woman down the road who got lost) I commision this first peice of propaganda;

"Do you love Animals?
Do you love Alcohon.. In large quantities?
Do you want to be surrounded by women?
If the answer is yes then the Gaian Stepdaughter's are your faction! We are the only faction with good enough botanical knowledge to brew Super-Alcohol. A special type of ale, with none of the bad effects! We love Animals and animals love you! Just flash your membership card in front of them and they will instantly become your friends... And as for the women, well we are the stepDAUGHTER's of Gaia. What do you expect from us? Come on boys, come get some.

Nice work, that oughtta fool them. They don't know that after they join we're going to give them a sex change! Are you still typing?"

Anyway

Anti-Believer quote

"it was christianity who first painted the devil on the worlds wall; It was christianity which first brought sin into the world. Belief in the cure which it brought to the world has been chaken to its very roots, but belief in the sickness which it taught and propagated continues to exist" - Neitzche (No-one take this as meaning I am against religion, the world would be a much worse place without it.. It would be very hard to post an anti-believer propaganda message without insulting the religious people here )

Anti-Hive quote

"Deprive a man of his life lie and you rob him of his happiness"
Ibsen

Pro Gaian Quote

"The male chromosome is an incomplete female chromosome. In other words the male is a walking abortion; aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be limited; emotionally limited; Maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples. Don't be a Male! Join the Gaian Stepdaughters today!"
Valerie Solamos... Well maybe she didn't say the last two lines

Once again, no religions people misconstrue me. Religion is great! I AM a christian! Don't flame me about it! I am not Neitzche! Please!

posted 11-21-98 05:19 PM ET            

I agree Sofielisk, it's hard to show fraction patriotism with out stepping on someone else's feet. The flames bare witness.

posted 11-21-98 07:40 PM ET            

Lets try this **** again!:

Well, since this is propoganda...

Quick, everyone, the Human Hive is shooting helpless boyscouts!! We have the pictures right here. Your very own sons, brothers, cousins shot by the Human Hive! All true advocates of democracy must take up arms against the evil Human Hive, & stop them from commiting these atrocities, & bringing us back a step in our evolution, perhaps even stopping it for good, a ever-lasting Dark Age. They claim to be a step forward in evolution, but their oppressive ways just limits how much they can grow. All people of freedom, must strive to give other Human Beings that same chance to be free. They must arm themselves, & liberate these people, let them know what it's like to be free! Don't stay at home, free the world from oppression, a dark age, the Human Hive.

Join the Spartan army, today!