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WCW posted 11-15-98 02:04 AM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for WCW   Click Here to Email WCW  
How should we plan our relations, in whatever way, against a new found faction, the 10th American faction?
DJ RRebel posted 11-15-98 03:44 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
When did they come into existance ???
Hmmm .. I think I like our current relations with our southern neighbors the way they are (excluding the whole salmon situation in the Pacific) !!!

But our true brothers are with the 9th Faction of EuRoland !!!

WCW posted 11-15-98 04:00 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
We must organize and remain vigilent in our fight to keep Canada strong and Euroland well suited for anything that the 10th american faction has in store for us.
Two things are needed now. A brief history lesson of the canadian and euroland factions and a list of the respective members of these factions.
DJ RRebel posted 11-15-98 04:19 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Too bad the old forum is down ... I cronicled the origins of the 8th Faction in great detail there !!!

A review is in the "Who killed Captain Garland" thread ... I'll copy and paste it here in a sec !!! Hold on !!!

Does anyone know when the old forum will be back up ???

DJ RRebel posted 11-15-98 04:27 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
*************** Copied Post ***************

I really like my scenerio alot though .. really if you think about it, it makes sense !!!

Captain Garland secretly discovers that the 8th Cryobay is still supporting life, but is just cut off and badly damaged !!! He, along with a couple of his closest advisors stage his death, so they can stay behind to help them !!! They realise that for the sake of humanity they must make the rest of the crew go to Chiron while they still can, so they don't want to raise the issue of should they stay to save 1/8th or should they go in the interest of 7/8ths !!! The fact is, both are important, but humanity needs a large amount of the crew to go !!! Unfortunately, as captain, he cannot find it within his (Canadian) heart to leave 1/8th of the crew behind !!! Therefore GARLAND stages his own death to force the other leaders to be to compromise and make their way to Chiron !!!

Garland stays behind with 1/8th of the crew (which now has alot of room to grow on the ship) for SMAC2:the return to Chiron or whatever !!!

They could even make their way into SMAC after 60 years or whatever amount was said in the story ... because they now have alot of room to grow ... plus they wouldn't have any competing factions to deal with so they would concentrate on growth and research !!! They'd still have to figure out a way of keeping 1/8th of the supplies and food without the others catching on, but this chouldn't be too difficult when you think about it!!! He just has to carefully do it while he's still "alive" and in control of the ship !!! But eventually this technologically superior faction could return to Chiron and Garland ... disgusted at the war and chaos ... decides it's time for him to take over again and put things in order !!! I think that could be an awsome bonus for who ever beats all the other factions !!! I for one hate it when a good game ends ... this way, once you beat all the factions, a ship could crash land on the map (doesn't have to be too graphically appealing) .. so you'll have one more faction to beat ... it'll look easy at first because they'll only have one city to start with, but in reality their tech would be superior, and they could have 100's of units, so they could easily take a continent or two, but you'd have to make a stand somewhere and fight back !!! To me this would double my pleasure of a game !!! (admit it ... you all hate it when a good game ends) !!!

*****************************************

That's just a small dose ... the original threads contained the proof and evidence of Garland's Canadian origins !!!

I'll put some of them up periodicly !!!

DJ RRebel posted 11-15-98 04:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
WCW ... where are you from anyways ???
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 11-15-98 12:26 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey  Click Here to Email Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey     
I can tell you one thing about WCW. He likes wrestling! Well, maybe, by some fate of irony, his initials are WCW.

Maybe it's a mix of both.

(the american walks out)

Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH

Victor Galis posted 11-15-98 01:03 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
Can I be the head espionage guy? (with a title of... well I can't think of one, suggestions would be welcome.)
dushan posted 11-15-98 01:08 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for dushan  Click Here to Email dushan     
Hello members of the great 8th faction

I bring you greatings from the new 11th faction:New British Empire.

Though I'm not officially entitled to lead diplomatic talks for this great nation, I'd like to initiate unoffical talks between us that will eventually lead to peace, prosperity and co-operation between our factions.

Long live the Canadians!
Long live the British!

Roland posted 11-15-98 01:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Roland  Click Here to Email Roland     
As long as the NBE doesn't join Euroland, how about some negotiations ? The 8-9-11-alliance... call 911, 10th faction, but it won't help you !
JingoPenguin posted 11-15-98 02:37 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JingoPenguin  Click Here to Email JingoPenguin     
Hello my Canadian friends. As I have already posted over in the NBE thread I propose an alliance against the 10th American faction

HRH King JingoPenguin
Ruler of the New British Empire

Kurn posted 11-15-98 07:30 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kurn  Click Here to Email Kurn     
Were gonna kill those bloody Yanks, count me in on this! Long live Canada-Euroland and the British Empire!
WCW posted 11-15-98 07:57 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
My name is Christopher R.
I live in Lloydminster, Alta./Sask., Canada's only border city.
I do like Wrestling, but i have a better reason for my 'handle'- Win Canada Win=WCW.
I'm opting to go for the head computer tech. branch of our faction. any objections?
My first job is to make our computers complient with all dates and systems outside of the factions.
Next, make them as fast as possible so research is done on a project in a few days.
Imran Siddiqui posted 11-15-98 08:08 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Imran Siddiqui  Click Here to Email Imran Siddiqui     
[NewsFlash]

The 11th faction wishes to reunite the British Empire, including taking over the Canadians. The 10th Faction: the Americans want to help destroy the imperialistic British from harming our good friends the Canadians

[End]

WCW posted 11-15-98 08:19 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
My computers show me that the last message, at 8:08, from Imram, may or may not be true because my spying computers noticed that at 8:05, he put a message on the 11th faction thread that he is going to be a backstabing person. He wants to turn our two glorious factions against each other and then try to assilmilate both our remains.
My computers tell me not to be to hasty with decisions at wait for official words from the respective leaders.

WCW
Chris.

Fjorxc the Maniac posted 11-15-98 08:52 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Fjorxc the Maniac  Click Here to Email Fjorxc the Maniac     
Ooh! Can I come? This sounds great. Besides, every Canadian faction requires an insane pilot who flies an Orca stolen from Westwood and has a penchant for watching cartoons from the late '80s on a Betamax and running headfirst into walls at high speeds. Right? Right?

Fjorxc the Maniac(CWAL Hunt Valley)
May the Fjorxc be with you and a happy new year.
"Yeah, I know we haven't written anything recently, but...what are you doing? Why are you holding sharp implements of destruction and smiling maniacally at me?"

Imran Siddiqui posted 11-15-98 09:13 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Imran Siddiqui  Click Here to Email Imran Siddiqui     
Actually I was protecting you. I said invasion of Canada was aginst the Monroe Doctrine.
WCW posted 11-15-98 10:44 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Imram:
1)I never said don't beleive your post. I just recomended caution and no hasty decisions made.
2)Is imperialism against the Monroe doctrine?
If yes, then we welcome your help but wish to remain sovereign and under only our people.
If not, we will stop anyone at any cost from militarily taking us over. this in my opinion only,not that of the leader.
3)We already have an alliance with the 9th and 11th factions, with voices coming from all over to unite against you. I wish peace between all of us, but I must do what my leader tells me to.
4)We will rebel against any faction that tries to take us over for we are the original
customized faction. again my opinion only.
DJ RRebel, any clarification on these points?(i beleive you are the leader)

WCW

Chris

WCW posted 11-16-98 01:23 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
I think that we should have a faction which has the following jobs:
Leader J RRebel
Chief of Defense ?)
Chief of Security ?)
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy minister/Assistent Justice ?)
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice ?)
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy ?)
Minister of Education ?)
Minister of Health ?)
Minister of Social Welfare ?)
Minister of Infrastructure ?)
I can take on Education and Infrastructure, but i hope all the ?'s can ba filled by other
regular contributors to our forum/thread.
If you have any ideas about the spots please post them and I, as deputy leader, will appoint the spots until reveiw by DJ RRebel.
If you dispute the spots then also tell me.
so hand in your ideas.

BTW, if DJ RRebel has come back, he's in charge. until/ since then, send them to me.

WCW posted 11-16-98 01:27 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
The Leader ... should be leader: D...
The ... ?)...'s should be ...: (?)
sorry, they were not supposed to be smiley's(frowny's).

WCW

Chris

WCW posted 11-16-98 05:12 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
This is the first order of me, deputy leader, WCW

Start posting in this thread.

WCW

Chris

WCW posted 11-16-98 08:20 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
DJ RRebel

1) Are you here?
2) Are you the leader of the Canadian 8th Faction?
3) Have you read this thread about our faction?

WCW

chris

Rang posted 11-16-98 08:30 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Rang  Click Here to Email Rang     
Yeah! Way to go, Canada! Um...wait a minute...I'm American...err...pardon me, I have the wrong room...
Fjorxc the Maniac posted 11-16-98 08:53 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Fjorxc the Maniac  Click Here to Email Fjorxc the Maniac     
Ooh! Can I be defense minister? As one of Canada's defenders during the War with Yimot, I think I would be qualified...please?
Kurn posted 11-16-98 08:56 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kurn  Click Here to Email Kurn     
I want to be the mimister of Kicking american ass!
Rang posted 11-16-98 09:03 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Rang  Click Here to Email Rang     
Me, too! Um...no, wait...I'm American...so it would be physically impossible. Nevermind
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 11-16-98 09:37 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey  Click Here to Email Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey     
Can I be the minister to remind Canada that no matter how hard they tried could never kick Americas ass!!!! Well maybe a few of those pansy's in the war department, I'm gonna go before you let me make a bigger ass out of myself.

(The Canadians stare angily at YYYH as he slowly tip-toes out)

Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH

WCW posted 11-16-98 10:23 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Fjorx Maniac you can be our defense minister and Kurn you can be the defense secretary in relation to american ass kicking.

I, as Finance minister have set up a 200 billion dollars armed forces package to be used for buying the lastest equiptment and recruiting more soldiers. The equiptment will include anti-grav helicopters, mechanized robots and battle cruisers. This is under the control of Fjorx for the price and specs of the armorment.
As well, a 150 billion dollars to education and technological development. In this measure, I have taken the responsibility of education as well. More details released
later.
Finally, a 125 billion dollar infrastucutture package has been announced. This will help in movement of people,materials and military units. I have taken this department under my wing as well. More details later.
You must remember, the budget is 1 trillion dollars, and 475 billion is already used for this period. Each period is 1 week(thread0 which translates to about 9 months.
Go for the Jobs and ask for your money before it is out!!!!!
volunteer for the positions with a (?) beside it.
Leader: DJ RRebel
Chief of Defense: Fjorx Maniac
Secretary of U.S. ass kicking: Kurn
(title to be changed in the future)
Chief of Security: (?)
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy minister/Assistent Justice: (?)
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice: (?)
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy: (?)
Minister of Education:WCW
Minister of Health: (?)
Minister of Social Welfare: (?)
Minister of Infrastructure:WCW

WCW

chris

Victor Galis posted 11-16-98 10:51 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
I volunteer to be Foreign Affairs Minister. I will use diplomacy to buy our defence department some time.
Q Cubed posted 11-16-98 11:08 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Q Cubed  Click Here to Email Q Cubed     
I would not mind being the Chief of Security and the Minister of Environment... I would propose that we have a strong counterespionage force...and maybe get some assistance in that from the secret KGB/MI5/MI6/SAS/CIA/NSA factions, the Israeli/Zionist Factions, the Korean National Security Agency, and set ours up as Section 86, or Cansec8.
Also, i suggest that we, as a whole, become a partner in the Non-Aligned Movement of AlphaCent (NAMAC). This will allow us to covertly take control of the weaker nations.
fred posted 11-16-98 11:17 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for fred  Click Here to Email fred     
you got a heath minister right here! i'll take care of our very few wounded and despose of our enemy's wounded. i'll do all the dutes of the heath minister if you promises me a spot on the front lines when we take on thoose little 10th faction loosers.

fred
8th canadian faction

WCW posted 11-17-98 01:33 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Victor Galis, you are now the Foreign affairs minister, but remember, we are a peaceful nation and my new defence package is more of a defensive package so we can defend ourselves against any faction which wants us.
Would you mind public policy?
Also, You are now a assistant justice. Is that OK?
If you take all these jobs, you get 3 bilion, otherwise just 500 million.
Qcubed, you got it. Make sure that there are no spies in our faction and spy on the other faction. You have 2 billion $, use them wisely. Working with the tech department, make sure that all our factories are the best possible, minimizing the harmful effects.
fred, you also got it. Make sure we have the best health in the world. OK. would you mind being justice minister and cheif justice?
Use your 105 billion in health wisely.
If you take the other jobs, you get an extra 1 billion for your justice and 25 billion for policemen.
600/1000 billion spent.
your funding may rise in the future depending on the reserves.
Leader: DJ RRebel
Chief of Defense: Fjorx maniac
secretary of american defense: Kurn
Chief of Security: Qcubed
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy minister/Assistent Justice/ Foriegn Affairs: Victor Galis
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice: fred
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy: Qcubed
Minister of Education: WCW
Minister of Health: fred
Minister of Social Welfare: (?)
Minister of Infrastructure: WCW

anyone want to be social welfare minister?

Next post will contain the education/technology and infrastructure plans.
I would like plans from each of the ministers ASAP.
also, if after a few days, you do not post, you lose your job except for DJ RRebel because he is the leader. He has 2 weeks.

WCW

chris

WCW posted 11-17-98 02:21 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
1)Ministers need plans and must create jobs for people within their ministry. for example, cheif of defence gets a general for the army, a general for the navy, etc..
2)The mighty plans of mine now become public:
Education/Technology:
step 1: Lower Teacher/Student Ratio to 1:5
step 2: Make it mandatory to goto school from the age of 4-5 until 24.
step 3: Raise teacher knowledge to 250% of when started.
step 4: at age 13, find out students special talents and have them concentrate on that talent but always having a subject in each categorie(science,art,english)
step 5: quintuple number of research facilities every five years.
step 6: become most technologically, artistically, athleticly advanced with training and heart a major part.
step 7: remember that we still have flaws and not get too arrogent.

Infrastructure:
step 1: fix current infrastucture(road and rails)
step 2: create factionwide maglev train network
step 3: create factionwide maglev automobile network
step 4: setup factionwide superspeed/ superweight aircraft network.
step 5: create near instantaneous transport network
will take many years.

let's fill those jobs

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-17-98 10:48 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Guys ... I'm so touched I think I'm gonna ... ummm .. naaah .. couldn't be a fearless leader if I did that !!!

Anyways, being the Canadian Factions, starting leader is really irrelevant, I plan to impliment a plan of shared leadership for all qualifying citizens ... I have a few days off after tomorrow and will commence revealing then !!!

Until that oint though, you are all responsible for collecting data on your particular departments .. I expect theral reports on possible improvements to quality of life and infratructure etc at the earliest possible convinience !!!

This data will be scrutinized by all of us together, and will eventually become our charter !!!

So what R U waiting 4 ??? Get cracking !!!

DJ RRebel posted 11-17-98 10:50 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Note >>> The uncountable number of typos aren't actually typos, they're part of the encription !!!
WCW posted 11-17-98 09:34 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Thanks for the reply, DJ.
Would you mind being social welfare minister?

Qcubed gets 25 billion for environment protection.

WCW

chris

WCW posted 11-19-98 08:31 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
>>>WCW 14, male, Lloydminster Alta./Sask.

Interests: Global politics, Global economics,sci-fi,history,strategy/simulation games,science and technology(esp. computers)

ICQ # 14331153 (might not work)
e-mail: [email protected]
no webpage

Occupation: student

Fav factions:
1. Canadian 8th faction
2. University of Planet
2. Human Hive
3. Morgan Industries

Fav leader: educated people, astonishly honest, good and humble people

Fav movies:
Apollo 13
Titanic
Armagedden
star trek movies
most movies fitting my interests that aren't the 'Ami vs. commie, AMI wins'

Fav shows:
x-files
first wave
wrestling
voyager
south park
letterman esp. PAUL SCHAFFER (sp?)
air farce,comics, just 4 laughs, not just the news

fav music: all good(my def.) music

Fav games: civilization, sim city (all versions), AoE, deadlock type games

WCW

chris

Q Cubed posted 11-18-98 12:51 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Q Cubed  Click Here to Email Q Cubed     
25 billion? not enough for a planet, i assure you. however, i'll use that and try not to go over budget. first of all, i won't repeat the US's mistake of buying $2K toilets in some back trail restroom.
Let's see...i definitely will require at least 5 billion for several state of the art labs for environmental research. I'll also use 5 bill to set up the EcoPolice (all under Big TreeFeller). they'll collect to huge fines meted out to the polluting companies. for the remaining 15 billion, i've yet to decide.
natural resources shall be carefully used, so as not to disturb the ecological balance. however, mining will be permitted so long as certain guidelines are followed.
Energy: cold fusion, sonic fusion, laser fusion, any kind of fusion fusion fusion!
ok...maybe a bit of matter/antimatter reaction and solar and wind and hydro and geothermal. we'll have to see about our landing conditions, and which will give us the greatest -ahem- "bang for the buck". BUT NO FOSSIL FUELS ARE TO BE USED FOR POWER GENERATION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!

do i get a black budget for security ops? i don't know how much i want to snoop yet, since i don't have that many spies and agents to work with...i do know that i want at least 3bill for extensive computer security methods for government computers and files. it'll also go to setting up elecespionage schools.

Victor Galis posted 11-19-98 09:13 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
Victor Galis >>> 15, male, Atlanta, GA(ugh), USA


Interests: Global politics, science & tech, strategy games, Sci Fi, learning new things, the environment, various temporary obsessions


e-mail >>> [email protected]

web page >>> www.geocities.com/timessquare/lair/2872


Occupation >>> Student


Favorite Factions:

1> Canadian 8th Faction

2> University of Planet


Favorite Leader: None, currently


System (under repair)>>> PentiumII 266MMX!

System (current)>> PowerBook 3400c


Availability >>> often


Fav TV shows >>>

-X-Files (did anyone catch the premiere ??? Awsome)

-Simpsons

-Most of the stuff on PBS

-Most Canadian comedies (Air Farce, Red Green, Hour has 22mins etc)


Fav game >>> Civilization II

Runners up:

-SC2k

-AOE

-EVO

-X-COM:3

-etc.


Place of Birth: Bucharest, Romania

Places I have lived:

Bucharest, Romania

Montreal, CANADA

Boston, MA, USA

Atlanta, ga, usa

Citizenship: Romanian/Canadian (I will never become American!)

Victor Galis posted 11-19-98 09:37 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
$80 million to purchase some nuclear weapons to prevent intimidation by other nuclear powers.

$100 for anti-terrorist defences for the other two embassies.

$1 million for large banquet to affirm alliances with 9th and 11th factions.

$299 million to build foreign ministry building, and staff it.

$250 to run covert operation (Steal any space technology that we don't have.)

$1 billion Canadian Space Agency for a secret project.

Can I be its head?

$750 million unspent.
WCW posted 11-18-98 02:33 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Qcubed:
1)The 25B you have is a start. you can work with the tech dept. for lab construction.
i will add another 25B now because i see the importance of a healthy environment.
2)work with health dept. to make sure our people are kept healthy.

To all:
I have set up a 25B plan which anyone can dip into for security ops. You must tell how much you take and have a fraction of what is left over total amount. now it is 25/25

total budget is 675/1000 billion

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-18-98 11:23 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
WCW >>> I'll take SW as a temporiry position until someone can be found, but I don't want it too long, as I'll have to balance and place the priorities of our faction .. I don't want to be biased towards any one field !!! Ultimately as we change our decision making policies away from that of the leader, I won't have any problems taking charge of a ministry, but until then, I'll try to avoid it for the greater good of us all !!!

Who's on board so far anyways ???

WCW posted 11-20-98 12:35 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Sure Victor, forgot that one.
35 billion for CSA.
Leader: DJ RRebel
Chief of Defense: Fjorx maniac
Secretary of american Defense: Kurn
Chief of Security: Qcubed
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy Minister/Assistent Justice/ Foriegn Affairs: Victor Galis
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice: fred
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy: Qcubed
Minister of Education: WCW
Minister of Health: fred
Minister of Social Welfare: Titan
Minister of Infrastructure: bhurak
CSA chairman: Victor Galis
Make NASA look sick

735/1000

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-18-98 11:34 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
WCW ... ummm ... Q cubed is American !!!

Not that I'm not willing to let him participate in our decision making, but does he believe in the Canadian perspective on live ??? Is he willing to put aside his American beliefs for our own !!! Being Canadian to me, doesn't mean being born on our soil, but it does mean being Canadian at heart !!!

I'm willing to trust your judgement, but be wise in your decisions !!!

WCW posted 11-20-98 12:41 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Oh yeah, Victor, that 35B is for *Public* projects only

Is the graduation from junior to the next level done at 30? If so, only 3 more posts to go!!!!

WCW

chris

BigER posted 11-18-98 06:30 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for BigER  Click Here to Email BigER     
"buying $2K toilets in some back trail restroom."
Didn't you watch "Independance Day" that was explained.

$2k toilets
$1000 hammers hehhehehehhheheeeehhhe
They actually believed that!

That money was spent on creating a Junta Government in Canada. Right now US sympathizers and spies are ruling your country! Oh the irony of it all.

Q Cubed posted 11-20-98 01:31 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Q Cubed  Click Here to Email Q Cubed     
Oh, jeez... i wish i had the time to get online more...TOOO much homework.
hey wcw: the answers, in case you want them:
1)Neither (no offense, guys. i still love my mother's homeland)
2)Canada
3)YES!!! definitely! do you think i want to know how much of a porn star the president is?
4)pride goeth before fall - therefore, honesty, integrity, and truthfullness are important
5)"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few," as spock so eloquently put it.

as for the greetings, thanx. anyway, for infor on me: i know victor from school - hi vitkor!

�Me: Marq Hwang/15.8years/m/Atlanta, GA, USA
�Interests: Geopolitics (specifically EastAsia and Europe), Science/Technology, Strategy(RTS and Turn, RPG, Sim)gaming, some programming in small doses, music, science fiction, linguistics, knowledge, space, my culture, the world, my girlfriend, most things in general
�icq#: 5470568(Q Cubed)
�email: [email protected]
�web: www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/2164
�occupation: still a student
�faction: Everyone except for the Spartans and the Americans (i'm tired of playing games with them or obvious analogues in it)
�system: PII/266, 96mb ram, 6.4gb and 850mb hd, 32x and 8x cd.
�movies: Contact
Star Trek 8, 4, 6, 7, 2, 5, 3, 1
Star Wars
Spaceballs
Some Disney aminated flix ;-) (i'm a softie here)
�music: any kind, as long as it isn't opera
�tv: trek, bab5, x-files, simpsons, TGIF, felicity, dawson's creek, that 70's show...lemme think.
games: Civ 2/1
StarCraft
SC2K/3K
Descent
FreeCell
Tetris
others

Titan posted 11-18-98 06:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Titan  Click Here to Email Titan     
I'll take the social welfare if nobody wants it. This way DJ could concentrate on his leadership. I'll make sure that nobody stays on it for too long. We could hire the unemployed to work on the other project of the faction. This way we will save billions on social welfare that could be given to Qcubed. I'll also make sure that there is les fraud done to this service. I would need 5 billions to start to stop frauds. I'll also need 5 billions to find a job for the unemployed.

Vive le Qu/bec! Vive le Canada! Vive Smac! Vive la 8i�me faction!

WCW posted 11-20-98 11:34 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Of course we have no spy systems or things like CSIS.

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-21-98 01:00 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
C-What ???
fred posted 11-18-98 07:14 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for fred  Click Here to Email fred     
i'll need 50 billion to set up all the hospitals that were closed!

we don't need luxury tax cause were canada and if we give'em hospitals and good education and hell some happy drugs

hehe my first day at court. now where's my snoopy hammer and the white hair thing.

with me on the bench i think were going to need some more prisons. that them all pay for what they did specialy thoose people that J walk they need life in prison. also sucuraty we need to set up a better borded with the U.S. cause they will all wont to come to our nation. any american that enters our country with out the consent of our goverment shall be sent to prison for life

Bhurak posted 11-22-98 06:50 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
By the way, what exactly does infrastructure entail?
WCW posted 11-18-98 08:25 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
I didn't know that. Sorry DJ RRebel.
It's your decision, not that I'm biased either.
anyways, there is 50 billion for the environment and there is 15 billion for social welfare headed by titan.
there is another ten billion for justice minister to set up more 'rehabilitation centers'
this means that 700 of 1000 billion is used.

WCW

chris

Bhurak posted 11-18-98 10:26 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
Just thought I'd speak up and let people know I'm out here, and want to be recognized as part of the Canadian faction. I haven't been posting much, but I've been lurking since the beginning of september, and figured I'd better make my presence known if I wanted to get a position. I'll take anything that's open.

P.S. I am for SMACing the americans around a bit, especially since we will have a much closer ratio of Canadians to Americans on Chiron.

Victor Galis posted 11-22-98 10:59 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
CSA Spending:

$20 billion for Research on Improved Propulsion Systems.

$500 million for communications satellites.


$14.5 Billion left

(Requesting funding for secret projects)

Spoe posted 11-18-98 10:34 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Spoe  Click Here to Email Spoe     
You know, after currency conversions, all these billions you're throwing around add up to about US$ 2.65...here's your Big Mac.

:P

Victor Galis posted 11-22-98 11:44 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
CSA Spending


$20 billion for advanced propulsion sytems research.

$500 million for launch of improved comm. satelites.


$14.5 billion

(Requesting $99 billion for secret project)

Q Cubed posted 11-18-98 11:52 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Q Cubed  Click Here to Email Q Cubed     
does this mean that i'm not the environmental minister anymore? i may be an Ami, but i'm not exactly proud to be an American. i'm not the patriot that i should be for the US, but can you blame me? i like Canada. i've been there once, and it's soooo cool there. the wilderness, the accents, the (comparatively) less morbid fascination with the sex lives of the political leaders...i'm sick of being admired and hated for being American. i'm Korean, and i'm damn proud of it, and i'd go over there in an instant...but there's not Korean faction, and Canada ain't so bad. even though i have said things like america can fix itself and all of that, i still hope that it's true somewhat - but i have my doubts. too many jack@$$e$ in power, etc...
meanwhile, i know that i'm American but i'd love to have a chance to work it out with you canadians to see if we could make things better.
WCW posted 11-23-98 08:08 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
sorry, that should be 825/1000

WCW

chris

Victor Galis posted 11-18-98 11:56 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
First order of business: Setting up embassies $100 million for one with the 9th faction.

$100 million for one with the 10th faction.

$100 million for one with the 11th faction.

$200 million to staff all three and set up a defensive perimeter and garrison for the 10th faction one.

$1 million to fund Chamblee "Debate" Team as a cover operation for our spy networks.

$5 million to upgrade computer systems allowing faster connections.

$4 million for diplomatic trip to Silicon Valley.

I appoint myself as ambassador to the 10th faction.

The other two current ambassadorships are still open. I appoint Q cubed as Chief Security guy for the 10th faction embassy.

$10 million to hire staff to help on public policy.

$2.48 billion left to spend.
Victor Galis posted 11-24-98 12:40 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
CSA spending:
$90 billion for the secret project.
$9 billion (of the normal budget) for a "space station."
(Secret project funding complete)
$5.98 billion left (CSA)
$.75 billion (foreign ministry)


Bhurak posted 11-24-98 06:24 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
Well, I'm going to start by dealing with things that have already been done, and portioning up the budget.

>Infrastructure:

>Step 1: fix current infrastucture(road and rails)

I'm going to allocate only 2.5 billion for this, as I expect it won't be very long before we move to steps 2 and 3

>step 2: create factionwide maglev train network and

>step 3: create factionwide maglev automobile network

I will allocate 10 billion to the train network, and seperately 25 billion to the automobile network, but the projects will be loosely joined.

>step 4: setup factionwide superspeed/superweight aircraft network.

This I will allocate 30 billion to, 5 billion of which is dedicated to make military movements more effective.

>step 5: create near instantaneous transport network, will take many years.

Here, I envision a sort of matter transference device, and will set aside 40 billion for research in 2 different departments, one dealing with objects, and the other with people.

This leaves me with a fair bit of leftover funding for emergencies and other projects, suggestions and comments are welcome.

107.5/125 billion

Bhurak Starkiller

Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 11-19-98 12:55 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey  Click Here to Email Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey     
Funny. He's proprieting money for the defense of Canda's borders against the 10th faction of the Americans. The fact is, the US & Canada have the largest undefended border line in the world.

READY! AIM! FIRE!

Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH

Bhurak posted 11-24-98 06:39 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
In addition to my previous post, I'd like to set aside 5 billion for nationwide computer networks and communications.

Bhurak Starkiller

112.5/125

DJ RRebel posted 11-19-98 02:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Qcubed .. you gave a worthy statement .. not only are you accepted into the 8th faction .. but you are warnly welcomed !!!

OK guys .. I hope you realise that we have alot of work ahead of us before we even reach Chiron .. feel free to go overbudget on anything, because all money will be meaningless on Chiron !!!

Bhurak .. Welcome to the 8th faction ... what kind of position would you like to hold here ??? Where are you from ???

As for diplomatic ties .. we have an alliance with the Americans ... we shall treat them as neighbors for now !!! None of us have time to waste on war before arriving on Chiron !!!

We have an in depth strategic alliance with the 9th Faction of EuRoland !!! They are our brothers and sisters of the future !!!

WCW .. could you give me an updated full list of ministries and their respective leaders, and a list of all other members who haven't been assinged a ministry yet !!!

Thanks !!!

Victor Galis posted 11-25-98 01:01 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
I have set up a set of private forums for the 8th faction at my site (see profile.) Goto the SMAC section.
WCW posted 11-19-98 02:30 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Good job Victor. Shouldn't you set up defensive garrisons at all the embassies because of fanatics and because people can move around(Ami to euroland embassy, for example) .
Bhurak, would you like to have Infrastructure because it is the ministry I like the least,not that I hate it. It is already started for you. If you need help, just ask since we will be more integrated in the future.
YYYH, we are on a new planet. This means that previous experiance counts, previous diplomatic relations do not. This just means we are wary.
Qcubed
1) Which country do you prefer Canada or USA?
2) Which country is better?
3) Do you believe Public and Private lives should be separate?
4) Which is more important pride or truthfulness?
5) Which is more important the good of society or the good of a person?
please answer the questions truthfully.

WCW

chris

Titan posted 11-26-98 03:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Titan  Click Here to Email Titan     
Victor, i have looked at your site, but geocity warn me that your AC age does not exist. I think you should review it. When it is arranged, tell us, and we'll visit your site tha must be wonderful.

Vive le Qu�bec! Vive le Canada! Vive SMAC!

WCW posted 11-19-98 02:41 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Qcubed disrregard those questions.
Leader: DJ RRebel
Chief of Defense: Fjorx maniac
...secretary of american defense: Kurn
Chief of Security: Qcubed
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy minister/Assistent Justice/ Foriegn Affairs: Victor Galis
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice: fred
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy: Qcubed
Minister of Education: WCW
Minister of Health: fred
Minister of Social Welfare: Titan
Minister of Infrastructure: bhurak
There's the ministries and ministers.

I'll see if there are other members later. gotta go now.

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-19-98 05:20 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Everything's looking good !!!
We need more recuits though .. If we want to get a good start once we reach Chiron, we have to have a solid base to start with !!!

I like our current membership, but we need some more Canadians in here !!!

DJ RRebel posted 11-27-98 07:16 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Victor ??? What is the address for your site ???
DJ RRebel posted 11-19-98 05:46 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Also .. I think it would be appropriate if we all said a little bit about ourselves .. I'll start if it'll help !!!

DJ RRebel >>> 25, male, Montreal, CANADA

Interests: Global politics, science & tech, strategy games, music & DJing, Sci Fi, meeting interesting people, learning new things and helping to make this world a better place in general !!!

IQC# >>> 5677827 (get ICQ at www.mirabilis.com or at my website)
e-mail >>> [email protected] (it's a zero after rebel)
web page >>> listen.to/rebel (just started it though)

Occupation >>> Dealer (croupier) at the Montreal Casino, work crazy hours (8pm to 7am), also DJ from time to time.

Favorite Factions:
1> Canadian 8th Faction
2> United Nations
3> University of Planet

Favorite Leader: None, my idea of an ideal society is one where an educated population votes on all important issues! To be eligible to vote, one would only need to understand both sides of the argument (not as simple as you might think)! I fear anyone who would want to impose his/her views on others .. I only hold the role as Faction leader on an interum basis, as soon as we set up the infrastucture for a leaderless society I will completely resign my position !!! I was supposed to cede my temporary leadership role to Canadian hero, Captain Garland, but he's running a little late!

System >>> Out of date Pentium 166MMX!

Availability >>> 3 day out of 6 work rotation (3on/3off)

Some Favorite Movies:
-Saving Private Ryan
-Contact
-Braveheart
-Star Trek II
-others I'm forgetting

Fav type of music >>> House & Dance

Fav TV shows >>>
-Star Treks
-X-Files (did anyone catch the premiere ??? Awsome)
-Babylon 5
-Drew Carey
-Most Canadian comedies (Air Farce, Red Green, Hour has 22mins etc)
-Simpsons & South Park (of course)

Fav game >>> Civilization II

Feel free to add or delete any catagories depending on your interests !!!

Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey posted 11-19-98 06:01 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey  Click Here to Email Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey     
YYYH drives his car up to the borderline & parks the front half in Canada, the back half in the USA to represent how he's a little bit of both. 50% French-Canadian, living in America, along with most everyone in my dads side of the family.

(YYYH puts his stick in reverse though, he just loves America so much.)

Later guys!

Your faithful & hell-bent NIMadier general,
YYYH

WCW posted 11-19-98 08:32 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
>>>WCW 14, male, Lloydminster Alta./Sask.

Interests: Global politics, Global economics,sci-fi,history,strategy/simulation games,science and technology(esp. computers)

ICQ # 14331153 (might not work)
e-mail: [email protected]
no webpage

Occupation: student

Fav factions:
1. Canadian 8th faction
2. University of Planet
2. Human Hive
3. Morgan Industries

Fav leader: educated people, astonishly honest, good and humble people

Fav movies:
Apollo 13
Titanic
Armagedden
star trek movies
most movies fitting my interests that aren't the 'Ami vs. commie, AMI wins'

Fav shows:
x-files
first wave
wrestling
voyager
south park
letterman esp. PAUL SCHAFFER (sp?)
air farce,comics, just 4 laughs, not just the news

fav music: all good(my def.) music

Fav games: civilization, sim city (all versions), AoE, deadlock type games

WCW

chris

Victor Galis posted 11-19-98 09:21 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
Victor Galis >>> 15, male, Atlanta, GA(ugh), USA


Interests: Global politics, science & tech, strategy games, Sci Fi, learning new things, the environment, various temporary obsessions


e-mail >>> [email protected]

web page >>> www.geocities.com/timessquare/lair/2872


Occupation >>> Student


Favorite Factions:

1> Canadian 8th Faction

2> University of Planet


Favorite Leader: None, currently


System (under repair)>>> PentiumII 266MMX!

System (current)>> PowerBook 3400c


Availability >>> often


Fav TV shows >>>

-X-Files (did anyone catch the premiere ??? Awsome)

-Simpsons

-Most of the stuff on PBS

-Most Canadian comedies (Air Farce, Red Green, Hour has 22mins etc)


Fav game >>> Civilization II

Runners up:

-SC2k

-AOE

-EVO

-X-COM:3

-etc.


Place of Birth: Bucharest, Romania

Places I have lived:

Bucharest, Romania

Montreal, CANADA

Boston, MA, USA

Atlanta, ga, usa

Citizenship: Romanian/Canadian (I will never become American!)

Victor Galis posted 11-19-98 09:42 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
$80 million to purchase some nuclear weapons to prevent intimidation by other nuclear powers.

$100 for anti-terrorist defences for the other two embassies.

$1 million for large banquet to affirm alliances with 9th and 11th factions.

$299 million to build foreign ministry building, and staff it.

$250 to run covert operation (Steal any space technology that we don't have.)

$1 billion Canadian Space Agency for a secret project.

Can I be its head?

$750 million unspent.
WCW posted 11-20-98 12:36 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Sure Victor, forgot that one.
35 billion for CSA.
Leader: DJ RRebel
Chief of Defense: Fjorx maniac
Secretary of american Defense: Kurn
Chief of Security: Qcubed
Finance minister/Deputy Leader:WCW
Public Policy Minister/Assistent Justice/ Foriegn Affairs: Victor Galis
Technology minister/Assistent Justice:WCW
Justice minister/Chief Justice: fred
Minister of Environment/Natural Resources/ Energy: Qcubed
Minister of Education: WCW
Minister of Health: fred
Minister of Social Welfare: Titan
Minister of Infrastructure: bhurak
CSA chairman: Victor Galis
Make NASA look sick

735/1000

WCW

chris

WCW posted 11-20-98 12:42 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Oh yeah, Victor, that 35B is for *Public* projects only

Is the graduation from junior to the next level done at 30? If so, only 3 more posts to go!!!!

WCW

chris

DJ RRebel posted 11-20-98 05:10 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
29 ??? Wow .. I can't remember that long ago !!!

Victor .. you can do space, but your US infiltration also makes you a viable spy !!!

We are at peace with the US .. but we need info to make sure it stays that way !!!

So you think you could handle that too ???

(WCW ,,, don't put that in the list ... don't want them to know who our spies R !!! lol)

WCW posted 11-20-98 11:35 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Of course we have no spy systems or things like CSIS.

WCW

chris

Bhurak posted 11-22-98 06:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
Jesus this forum's messed, I'm getting confused out here. Anyway, gonna throw some vitals at you guys.


Bhurak, 18, male

Location: Calgary, Alberta, CANADA

Interests: Hockey, Soccer, Computers (some programming), Reading, music, general disorderly conduct.

ICQ #12600987

E-mail: [email protected]

No webpage

Occupation: Student at U of C

Fav factions: 1. #8 Canadian
2. Undecided still

Fav movies: 1. Swingers (It's so money, baby)
2. Star Wars (Do I need to explain this?)
3. About a thousand others tied

Fav shows: 1. Simpsons
2. Duckman
3. South Park
4. Fraiser
5. Highlander

Fav Authors: 1. Douglas Adams
2. George Orwell
3. J.R.R. Tolkien
4. Anne McCaffery
5. Margaret Weis

Fav Music Artists: 1. U2
2. Great Big Sea
3. Countless others tied

Fav games: 1. Soon to be SMAC
2. Civ 2
3. Rebellion
4. StarCraft
5. Master of Orion
6. Wing Commander: Privateer

Birthplace: Calgary

Places I have lived: Calgary

Umm, I think that's everything, but I do know more about me if you want ;->

Jordan

Bhurak posted 11-22-98 06:58 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
Hmm, it appears my last post got eaten somehow, so I'll just repost. I was just asking exactly what being the minister of infrastructure entails.
Victor Galis posted 11-22-98 11:44 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
CSA Spending


$20 billion for advanced propulsion sytems research.

$500 million for launch of improved comm. satelites.


$14.5 billion

(Requesting $99 billion for secret project)

WCW posted 11-23-98 12:58 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
Bhurak, do you use telus? If you do, I have a plan for you.
Infrastructure entails improving infrastructure,be it matter moving or information moving, until it is as fast,reliable and efficient as possible.

victor, you can have $90B for a secret project, find financing for the things which are *somewhat* non-secret(panaeling, crew quarters,improved food,gravity nets, basically things that could help any missions)

790/1000 billion spent

WCW

chris

WCW posted 11-23-98 08:10 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WCW  Click Here to Email WCW     
sorry, that should be 825/1000

WCW

chris

Victor Galis posted 11-24-98 12:41 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
CSA spending:
$90 billion for the secret project.
$9 billion (of the normal budget) for a "space station."
(Secret project funding complete)
$5.98 billion left (CSA)
$.75 billion (foreign ministry)

I'm just a bit confused are we on the new planet or the old?

Bhurak posted 11-24-98 06:29 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
Well, I'm going to start by dealing with things that have already been done, and portioning up the budget.

>Infrastructure:

>Step 1: fix current infrastucture(road and rails)

I'm going to allocate only 2.5 billion for this, as I expect it won't be very long before we move to steps 2 and 3

>step 2: create factionwide maglev train network and

>step 3: create factionwide maglev automobile network

I will allocate 10 billion to the train network, and seperately 25 billion to the automobile network, but the projects will be loosely joined.

>step 4: setup factionwide superspeed/superweight aircraft network.

This I will allocate 30 billion to, 5 billion of which is dedicated to make military movements more effective.

>step 5: create near instantaneous transport network, will take many years.

Here, I envision a sort of matter transference device, and will set aside 40 billion for research in 2 different departments, one dealing with objects, and the other with people. I would also like to dip into the 25 billion security budget WCW has set aside for use on these research projects, I'd say about 100 million would be the most I'd need.

This leaves me with a fair bit of leftover funding for emergencies and other projects, suggestions and comments are welcome.

107.5/125 billion

Bhurak Starkiller

Bhurak posted 11-24-98 06:48 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhurak  Click Here to Email Bhurak     
In addition to my previous post, I'd like to set aside 5 billion for nationwide computer networks and communications.

Bhurak Starkiller

112.5/125

Victor Galis posted 11-25-98 01:09 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Victor Galis  Click Here to Email Victor Galis     
I have set up a set of private forums for the 8th faction at my site (see profile.) Goto the SMAC section.
DJ RRebel posted 11-27-98 07:15 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Guys ... this thread is stuck in the out of order Nexii ... any new info should go into the new "Canadian 8th Faction for Humanity" thread !!!
DJ RRebel posted 11-27-98 07:17 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Victor ??? What is the address for your site ???

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